Will the Dalai Lama agree with this?
I post on many subjects. I post on my feelings, thoughts and what I’ve learned. I write what I see and it may not be what you see, but that is okay because diversity is so necessary. We can still be civil and polite in our differences with others. After all, things can change. Some topics are hard to read, some are what is projected of me and some you don’t think I should write about. But the point is, its on my space and in the ‘privacy’ of my space I share with those who are interested in my humble thoughts. I am not sharing anything negative about others, but it’s about myself. If you are not interested, don’t visit my space daily because you will annoy yourself. LOL. I wouldn’t want that for you.
As I was growing up I was made fun of, teased and even had violence directed against me because I am Asian. My skin is yellow. I had so many demonize me and degrade me for my color. As I grew up, it was hard. But I came to terms with this years later. I read so many people have experienced the same thing in history since the dawn of man. I am not sorry for being my color and I am not beneath anyone because of it. People who grew up in countries of their origin may not know how this feels, but for people who grew up in cultures ‘not their own’ without a choice, it is very painful and daily the taunts are there. I can’t help my color and neither can you. I don’t need to apologize for it or change who I am just to let you think better of me. I am who I am and I am fine. My color is fine. By being different, I was taunted.
When I had difficulties and really had it hard, I had to model to keep afloat for many reasons. No one asked why am I doing this, they just assumed whatever they assumed. But I had very good reasons for doing this. I had to support myself. Still, people said, “Oh you don’t look like a dharma teacher. What you teach is not real or cannot be because you don’t look like a dharma teacher.” Again, I was prejudiced against because of the way I look. I had that said to me for years. Oh he is too good looking to be a dharma teacher. Now that he looks like that, he’s finished and he’s thrown his Buddhist training away! You don’t know what happened so don’t assume. Yet in Gaden my teacher said I look fine and to keep teaching. Just keep teaching I was instructed. But teaching was hard because many said I don’t look like a traditional lama and I shouldn’t be teaching. Just because I don’t look like what you think I should look like, I am disqualified? Strange as it sounds, yes, it was like that. Why does a teacher have to look the way you project in order to be whatever qualifications you feel they ‘need’ to be? I am not teaching to prove anything to anyone, but simply following my teacher’s instructions. I am not teaching or professing to be a Buddha but just an ordinary dharma teacher. I am not the best nor the worst. I just am. So again projections from others always creates barriers. So many prejudices due to projections and expectations. You go and teach. You go find sponsors, set up blog sites, spend thousands of hours writing. You spend hundreds of hours listening to other people’s problems that they create and want you to solve. You build dharma centers and pay the rent. You find the people to be committee and nurture them and be on call 24 hours year after year. You be perfectly thin always. You be the perfect lama archetype. You worship whatever other’s approve of you worshipping. You go and answers the thousands of questions that come in one year. Year after year. You teach, speak, visit, bless, travel and do your best to serve others for 30 years as I have and then we can talk.
It’s easy to sit behind a computer on Facebook and start a page with ‘provocative’ titles and just criticize, criticize and bombast everyone who doesn’t agree with your sense of race, right, political views, ethics, feelings, religion, sexual orientation. It’s nice for some of you that you never post one single picture of yourself or give scant information about yourself and just criticize others. Are you being paid by CTA in Dharamsala to create discord and disharmony? That’s the rumors. All those who don’t post their faces and information and hide behind facebook but are virulent in their comments are hiding something. They are not to be taken seriously or should we watch them carefully? Why else would you spend hours daily on facebook without properly identifying yourself and just write nasty remarks that are vulgar against another human being just because they practice Shugden? Doesn’t make sense. LOL. I am out, so why don’t you come out! The only reason you can criticize me is because I am doing many works. After all, if I was doing nothing, you wouldn’t have anything to say. I am an open book as much as anyone can be with my blog, facebook, dharma center, charities, pictures, online presence. Kind of unfair huh? Some people know more about me than me! LOL. What have you done? Post up what you have accomplished and what you have done to give you the right to judge, condemn and hang on a daily basis another person who you don’t agree with? Every single person, group, family, couple, company, organization, city, town, country, continent have their haters and likers. Just because some people left my organization or life and write or feed you some information to attack me with does not mean what they say is accurate. There is always two sides of the coin. If they are so accurate, let’s meet by standards of law. I am not worried. Everyone has had a girlfriend, boyfriend, family member etc leave them. So what. People leave and everyone has their reasons. The bigger the company or the bigger the organization the more people leave. If you own for example Google or Samsung, you can have 1,000 employees leave a year and it matches the ratio of people coming in. Each one of them can start some unpleasant blog of how bad their experiences were. But if Google and Samsung keeps growing, then they are also doing something right.
Kechara is growing and will continue to grow. For all the naysayers, it is growing and I will work hard with all the wonderful Kecharians to continue benefitting others. My hats off to them. I can write a blog or get many people to write very painful truths about some people and why they really left. I know many ‘secrets’…LOL. We all know the truths about many people who complain and write in the ‘safety’ of anonymity so they think about me and others. It will not affect me one bit, because hard work and results silences everything. But you know what, they will make the same problems wherever they go. Just sit and watch if you know them. And this does not help me spiritually nor them. Every person that leaves has a ‘horror’ story, but the truth is, if the organization continues and thrives over time, then let’s see who is right or wrong if that is even necessary to prove. Over time let’s see where each of us gets to. What we succeed in life.
So if people are going to write or say things, then show who you are and give proof of what you say. Don’t be the invisible ripper ‘strangling’ unsuspecting passersby in the dark. LOL. If the His Holiness the Dalai Lama knew all the things you say, how you taunt and how you accuse others online, would he approve? Would your mother approve? LOL. Did Dalai Lama say attack others online daily because they have views different than you? What have you done? No one knows. Maybe you have done great things, but that doesn’t mean you can degrade others. Some of you claim to be ‘survivors’ of this dharma group or that one. Great you ‘survived’, but we are trying to survive through all your complaints, rantings, and attacks daily too. We need a survivors group that survives your group. LOL. When you position your life to daily send out negative words, negative energy and negative attacks on others, is this helping your spiritual growth? Does this help you? Not in the long run. Go get help and not survive but thrive finally! Make a new life and do some charities that benefit others so you can feel good too. No one made it big or impactual by complaining daily and attacking others online. You are wasting your time to attack others. I will not change one iota of myself just because you don’t find my color, religion, views, culture to your liking.
When I was heavyset in my 30s people kept saying, “Oh you are so heavy. Lose weight.” It’s like I will lose weight if I want to but did you ever think, that is not something that matters to me and it’s not your business? Why judge people due to their weight, color, sex, race and age. Oh dear, you are so old, I am going to say something ugly. Oh, you are black and I don’t like you. You have the freedom to be Black but I have the freedom to keep writing nasties about Blacks. Sound right? No it is wrong. They have the right to be Black and you have no right to say otherwise. So I have the freedom to practice Shugden, but you are going to segregate myself from others, say nasties about me, unfriend me, burn my books, tell the world I pray to a demon, and then tell everyone Dalai Lama said so? That is freedom? Saying nasties is not freedom of speech, but your racism, hatred and anger showing through or whatever you are unhappy with. Please get help. I am who I am. I am what religion I am, and it’s not your job to approve or not approve. Tibetans from Tibet would say, “Wow, you look like a lama.” Tibetans like their lamas big e.g. Panchen Rinpoche, Pabongka Rinpoche and Ling Rinpoche. It’s ‘prosperous’. When I was thin, then they said, “Oh you don’t look so good.” Sigh. I look like what I look like, for goodness sake. LOL. Again, looking inside of me would be better.
When I went to Gaden, I had some monks from Drepung Gomang Monastery who told me I was doing the wrong thing. That Six-Armed Mahakala would strike me down if I did. I told them if Mahakala strikes me down for that, then He has no compassion. They can actually tell me Mahakala will strike me down. They said I was rude to say that? I said, sorry. They said I must and should go to Drepung Gomang Monastery because my mother is Mongol, and Mongols ONLY go to Drepung and not Gaden. And some of them said my father was an ex-monk of Drepung Loseling Monastery (which is true), so that is why I should go to Drepung Monastery also. Some monks were very unhappy I didn’t go to Drepung and instead went to Gaden. When I told them it was the instructions of my gurus to go to Gaden, it fell on deaf ears although in Tibetan Buddhism, Guru devotion is supreme and should be followed in the strictest sense. I was confused, but entered Gaden anyways as my teacher instructed this. For some guru devotion is discarded when not convenient.
We are besieged with the views of others always. There are many other incidences. But the latest is the Shugden issue. If you practice Shugden, then people should disassociate with you. Yes, as silly as it sounds, that is what people advocate. If you practice Dorje Shugden you are automatically against the Dalai Lama! And I am asked if my wisdom is greater than the Dalai Lama’s? I am sure the Dalai Lama’s wisdom is profound, but I don’t think he is the only one that has profound wisdom. I think his gurus and my gurus have equally profound wisdom. Why would the Dalai Lama’s wisdom surpass other great teachers? Just because he is the Dalai Lama? I don’t think that is correct. On what basis is his wisdom greater than every other lama in the Tibetan world? Because he is famous? That is not logical. I agree the Dalai Lama has profound wisdom and knowledge, but I think many other great teachers do as well. One lama having high attainments will be the same as another. If I follow the wisdom of the Dalai Lama, then I am good and wonderful. If I don’t and choose to follow my lama’s or another lama’s wisdom, then I am a ghost worshipper, evil and should be purged. Gee, that sounds very un-Buddhist from whatever angle you look at it. So where should we limit this? There are hundreds of high lamas, teachers, tulkus, geshes, monks, nuns, practitioners teaching/practicing Dorje Shugden in Tibet and all over the world. Why only put the special spotlight on me and a few other lamas? Why am I so special? Some are very vocal in Tibet teaching Shugden to tens of thousands of people. Can I sit out this dance please and you go tap another shoulder and have a dance with them? LOL. I am online and perhaps slightly well known, so you are worried about this? Well as I said, I won’t change one iota on my views on Shugden and if you keep attacking, I will come out with more research, information, thangkas, teachings and et al. Correction, I will come out with more Shugden stuff anyways because I have my instructions from higher authorities to do so, namely my lamas.
Some say if I post about Shugden on my Facebook wall, it appears in their feed (timeline) and it disturbs them. Why does it disturb you? This makes them call me a demon worshipper, send me unpleasant and vulgar messages, telling me I’m evil and everyone should unfriend me and burn my books. Yes, some suggested to burn my books as though my books are a portal to something dark? I think you better go and burn all Ouija boards then? My goodness, this sounds like a witch-hunt from the 16th century. It also sounds very much like the ideology of certain regimes – that if you read certain books you are bad. For example the burning of Confucian books and scholars by the first Qin Emperor in 213 BC China. Also in the Chinese Cultural Revolution where all old cultures, customs and ideas that didn’t match the manifesto of the revolution were outlawed. If you don’t agree with something, burn it and destroy it. All Buddhists should practice compassion. So some people put me down because I am Asian. Others unfriend me because I like Shugden, and burn my books because it’s from a ‘Shugden’ person and totally segregate me. What difference does any prejudice against any aspect of another person make? Any prejudice is bad, full stop. Historically all forms of prejudice have harmed progress and thoughts and freedom.
People who degraded me because I am Asian felt they were right. They felt Asians are beneath them and shouldn’t emigrate to America. Well then colonialists should not come to Asia and colonize right? So is it ok for someone to degrade me due to my race or color of my skin? They have and they thought they were right in doing so. Where does it stop? Where do we draw the line? Now some people degrade me because of my spiritual faith and they feel they are right too. To segregate me because my religious beliefs are different. Give me proof that my religious practice has made me a bad person with no compassion and knowledge. I am talking about me harming others because of my faith. Of course there is no proof because my spiritual orientation does not harm. I did not and have not harmed anyone due to my faith. Does the Dalai Lama want you to harm me and degrade me? Are you following Dalai Lama’s instructions or you are just mistreating Shugden people because it distracts you from deeper issues within yourself? I can’t believe the Dalai Lama would agree to your behavior. Have all other gurus for the last four hundred years all been wrong and only the Dalai Lama is right? Should people also comment on my weight and maybe find more reasons to segregate me, put me down and demonize me?
Why don’t we make a list of all the things we should degrade other people for? Where does this end? Where is the limit? So you should not associate with Shugden people because they are unclean and evil? Why? What makes them unclean and evil? Because the Dalai Lama said so or you said so? Did the Dalai Lama tell you all to unfriend, hate, despise and segregate Shugden people? Did the Dalai Lama suggest this or advocate this? Did the Dalai Lama tell you to go on the Internet and disparage and degrade people who favour Shugden? Did the Dalai Lama tell you to burn the books of Shugden practitioners, bar them from restaurants and unfriend them on social media? Is the Dalai Lama happy when you do all this? If it is not the Dalai Lama, then who is asking you to do this? Who is asking you to unfriend, criticize and send nasty messages to me and other Shugden people? If the Dalai Lama knew you are doing all this, would he be happy? If he would not be happy, why are you doing it? Are you doing the Dalai Lama justice by acting and speaking in a degrading way towards Shugden people?
Then, some people say Shugden people are protesting or terrorizing Dalai Lama. I did neither. Some say Shugden people are taking money from China to create disharmony by practicing Shugden. Well I got no money from China ever. I was given Shugden decades ago before any Shugden ban was in place. The ban came much later. My teachers and their teachers for the last four hundred years received no money from Chinese government to practice Shugden. Some say Shugden people are violent. I do not commit any violence against any anti-Shugden people. Are you being a good Dalai Lama student by degrading others, unfriending them, burning their books, calling them demons? Does the Dalai Lama advocate this? Be careful what you answer. If the Dalai Lama advocates all this, this is not good. If the Dalai Lama does not advocate this, then why are you doing it? Why should you treat Shugden people different than any other person? There is no reason. If you didn’t know they practice Dorje Shugden then they appear ok and nothing is wrong with them at all. But once you know, then suddenly the same person becomes bad. Did they change or did your opinion/prejudice make you change?
Ask yourself honestly, when you degrade others because of their color, race, culture, religion, sexual orientation or differences, does it make you a better person? Do you really get to heaven because of these actions? Do you reach enlightenment by acting out your hatred of another’s difference from you? Does getting to heaven require the punishment, pain and destruction of another group of people? Think carefully. Would the Dalai Lama be happy with your lack of tolerance, understanding and compassion towards Shugden people or any person in the world? In the last century, six million Jews were exterminated due to their ethnicity and religion. Many in Europe thought it was fine and went along with it at the time. They felt Jews deserve to be punished, locked up, burned alive, their culture destroyed, their writings burned, their lives ended and their people put to death simply because they were Jews. They were called devils. Do you agree with that? Are Jews devils and evil? Should harm be done to them? I don’t believe that for one second. I think Jews and any human being should be treated equally. How about the Black people in America? Should they be slaves to Whites because they are black and by being black they are inferior? Well for two hundred years, that is what was believed in America. Their native religions from Africa were considered devil’s worship by the Whites and they had to convert to Christianity. Converted because they are inferior to White man’s religion. Their religion is inferior. Would such horrendous thoughts and acts be allowed today in reference to the beautiful Black and Jewish people? Unacceptable today and yet there was a time it was acceptable.
What if we were to punish poor and old and sick people because they are ‘bad’ and not useful. In the 80’s when AIDS first became common knowledge, people with HIV were shunned, unfriended, avoided, castigated, told they were immoral and some even suggested they should die. A punishment from God or something silly as that. Same thing with lepers in the past. People shunned and isolated them. They were segregated and were rejected. Should we go back to that kind of archaic mentality? Of course not. It would be outrageous in today’s world but not so long ago, it was not considered outrageous. That is the situation with Shugden people today. How far should we go with them? Should we just gas all of them if they don’t follow what the Dalai Lama says? Shall we disrespect them and take away their rights? Why not? How far shall we go?
Why does agreeing with the Dalai Lama have to resort to vulgarity, ostracizing, segregating people? Why does agreeing with the Dalai Lama mean that you don’t have to have compassion, tolerance and love? Does your ‘master’ bid you to do harmful actions to convert people into doing the so-called positive? Does the Dalai Lama tell you not to associate with Shugden people? Is this his actual advice? Would he be pleased if you cut off from Shugden people just because they practice Shugden? Does the Dalai Lama want you to mistreat, cut off and segregate Shugden people? Is this what he wants? Think carefully as how you answer reflects upon the Dalai Lama. I don’t talk about the Dalai Lama negatively ever. I am not against the Dalai Lama. I am not responsible for what other Dorje Shugden people say or how they act. There are millions of them. I don’t need vulgar comments, swear words and all types of accusations that have nothing to do with my belief in Shugden. On social media people post what they like as and when, as they have the right to. The nasty comments in here are some of the many that Shugden worshippers and lamas receive daily. Well-meaning friends and students send me these comments, some which people leave on their FB sites and some sent to them. So please don’t tell me what I can post or not post on my personal space. I didn’t go to your space and post anything. If you post things on your space and it’s open, you invite debate. So if you don’t want debate, just set your privacy settings to your liking.
Some people say Shugden people have their own monasteries in South India (Serpom Monastery and Shar Gaden Monastery) and they are free to practice. Those monasteries were not formed because they are free to practice. Those monks chose to leave or be expelled anyway. If they had freedom to practice, they wouldn’t be expelled in the first place. They had no choice but to form their monasteries because within Tibetan monasteries their beliefs became outlawed. Shugden monasteries exist not because the Tibetan leadership allow it, but because the Indian constitution guarantees religious freedom. If it were up to the Tibetan leadership, these monasteries would not exist. By simple logic, look how Shugden people are persecuted and demonized just on social media. So imagine how they are treated in person? Very badly. The more Shugden people are persecuted, the more and more we will speak out peacefully. We will speak out till Shugden people are granted the same rights as everyone else and their religion does not get demonized anymore. This Shugden problem was created by the Tibetan leadership. Only the Tibetan leadership can solve it with peaceful dialogue.
You shouldn’t show prejudice to anyone because of their color, sexual orientation, race, ethnicity, handicaps, age, beliefs and religious choice. No one should speak against people for any of these reasons. Everyone must be treated with respect. We are or should be in the age of ‘enlightenment’. People may pick what they choose to worship and no one should tell them they are wrong or advise anyone against anything. Everything is subjective. If I choose to worship Shugden, you have no right to speak against my belief or condemn. If you do condemn me, you leave the door wide open to allow other people who are different to be condemned and where does that stop?
I am sorry if I have to be direct, but there was no way around it,
A ‘senior’ monk shows his seniority by calling another person a demon. Such behavior in the name of the Dalai Lama does not reflect well at all.
These are jsut one of the many comments my friends send to me. I have received hundreds more examples below. As you can see, the harassment is constant and persistent.
So many people can write unpleasant, finger pointing comments. Does the Dalai Lama approve of this. Would the Dalai Lama be happy to see this or not? You decide.
What does my Shugden practice have to be with my monkhood? How can this ‘interesting’ person predict my future and my downfall? Why do people go so far to presume such negatives? Does this make the commentator a better person or Buddhist?
If you have no interest in me, why the hundreds of comments? LOL.
I am an idiot and all the other vulgarities just because I practice Shugden. I am not even human. Look below. I am a hungry ‘gosh’????? I guess he means I am a hungry ghost. I am not a ghost but I am hungry! LOL
I am going to hell soon?? Thank you for your good wishes. You are a very good disciple of the Dalai Lama. Did he teach you to say that? Or you learned all by yourself? Will Dalai Lama be pleased with you speaking this way?
By throwing the books away you respect Dalai Lama? I thought by practicing compassion you respect Dalai Lama or is that out of vogue? Burn the books! Burn the witch! Burn Shugden people! Burn, burn, burn…anyone got a match? Don’t leave in the river, it might poison the fishes and make them practice Shugden! I find this so funny!
If he got headache take a painkiller please. Shugden had nothing to do with your headache. Even headaches are blamed on Shugden now. What’s next?
Not only in Thailand, but it’s growing bigger and bigger all over the world. Shugden’s time has come. You all make him more popular because you talk about Him constantly.
Burn the books! Burn the witch! While you are burning up Tsem Rinpoche, why don’t you burn the lepers, blacks, Jews, Whites, HIV positives, migrants, and anyone you don’t like. Heck, just burn the world! Is that the way to deal with Shugden or maybe be a good Buddhist and sit down and have a dialogue?
How wonderful. I will be barred from entering India because I practice Shugden. Don’t forget to ban me from restaurants, hospitals, shops and all offices in fact. Oh I forget, you are already doing that to the Shugden people in India. How nice there is no Shugden ban, but we are barred from India. Interesting.
If I practice Shugden then I must go to hell as that is the consequence. So hell is just for Shugden people now. Killing, murder, rape, robbery all are crimes that take you to heaven I guess. Why do people wish others to go to hell? Is that Buddhism?
Wow! Look at the language on this one! Vulgar, rude, spiteful and hateful. He is Dalai Lama’s student? Is this what Dalai Lama is pleased by? What would the Dalai Lama say if he saw this? If the Dalai Lama would be displeased, then why do these people do this? Why so much hatred and anger.
So now I am a rent boy? What posture makes a person a rent boy? What does this have to do with compassion, Buddhism and Shugden. Why dig up pictures of people in their younger days and label them negatively? Why attack people and then be so righteous? I am confused. Well I’ve been told I look decent here. LOL!
Why do such derogatory pictures of erudite monks and nuns? Why attack and degrade people who are sangha? Incredible. They have done so much for dharma and tens of thousands of people around the world.
So much time spent in meddling in other people’s private lives. Nothing they write is dharma, love or light. It’s all slander from beginning to end. So much hatred and anger from people who need something they never got when growing up. May they find peace and happiness one day among all the hatred.
Why do they spam and annoy others? Who are they to say who is what reincarnation?
The harassment is persistent and ongoing on various social media platforms.
This is pure spamming and harassment. Why do people do this. It does not make them, their cause or Tibetans look good. They do this nearly daily. It’s very sad.
So much vulgarity and dirty words. It really makes the pro-Dalai Lama people look uncouth, angersome and violent. They are violent and it shows in the words. They call us demon worshippers, but you don’t see any vulgarity by Shugden people anywhere on the net.
This fellow says he is CONVINCED the ban should stay. How ‘kind’ of him to say he is happy about the ban and wishes it stay. He is happy many are segregated, barred from public places and also the monastery separated causing so much pain. He is happy with all the turmoil and chaos this has created. What type of negative and harmful person can this be to think in such a negative manner. I wish for a good and positive resolution. Quite the reverse.
I am wearing lipstick? Gee. Sorry I have plump, shiny full lips and even that you have to degrade. What does my lips have to do with Shugden and the ban? Will my shiny lips send me to the three lower realms?? LOL!
Amazing how people have so much time to degrade and denigrade others. Sangha should never do that. Sangha should be kind representatives of the Dharma. Even Lord Buddha was kind to Anguimala. Sangha should be controlled in body, speech and mind regardless of the Shugden issue.
Why are these people bringing homosexuality into this? What does this have to do with Shugden’s issue? Are they putting gay people down or using homosexuality as some sort of degradation. I hope not as that is so wrong and so not necessary. People are people and should never be judged for their sexual orientation. We should never use this as a negative label.
I have included only some of all the nasty comments, vulgarities, slanders, rude name calling, prying into my personal life, fact twisting, concerted effort to undermine my spiritual freedom and rights. These are just samples but only the tip of the iceberg. It’s just plain nastiness that I must endure nearly daily only because I believe in Dorje Shugden. I am not the only one, but many others are dealt the same blows because of their belief in Shugden. So much hatred against another human being just for their religious beliefs. I didn’t commit any crimes, I don’t hurt people, I don’t steal, or break laws, nor do I force my beliefs on anyone. But I am treated in this way only because of my personal religious beliefs. I am also given death threats. They will kill me if I continue practicing Dorje Shugden. Incredible! So all of you who hurl vulgarities on the internet will be responsible indirectly for fanning the flames of ignorant anger that may escalate toward Shugden practitioners being harmed again. Because you are encouraging hate. Is that what you want? Each time you write something nasty, you are contributing. There is no limits to bad behavior when we open the floodgates of hatred. You are justified in your actions and have no karma just because you don’t practice Shugden?
This Dorje Shugden issue was started by the Tibetan Leadership and only they can solve it. I didn’t do anything wrong and I will never stop my spiritual direction in Shugden. All of this will only serve to inspire me to speak up more and bring Shugden to more willing people who are karmically ready or connected. I repeat, the Tibetan Leadership should open dialogue with the leaders of the Shugden communities. If they allow this to continue, what purpose does this serve? Or is it serving some other unspoken agenda by the CTA? I do not want to be involved in the talks as I am not qualified, but certainly peaceful dialogue is crucially urgent.
Many lamas and monks have told me they thank me for voicing out for them who cannot write or communicate in English. I am getting much invitations to many monasteries in worldwide as they thank me for sharing their plight to the world. That is what I am doing. I want nothing from this except the democratic rights of any human being to practice whatever God they choose without being segregated or spoken ill against. No religious leader or persons should ever spread intolerance and religious bigotry. We need peace in every sector of our small planet.
We have been informed by our friends in Dharamsala that the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA; the de facto head of Tibetans in Exile in India) that they have seen the vulgarities said in the name of being on the Dalai Lama’s defense. Many who can read English in Dharamsala have been horrified that their campaign against Shugden is leading to such vulgarities and attacks on Shugden followers personal lives. CTA had hoped to intimidate Shugden people to give up through fear and violence in the past, but it has worked against them as they represent Dalai Lama a Nobel peace prize winner. People are asking why Dalai Lama does not speak up against the hatred towards Shugden people? CTA in the past have kept quiet about the attacks on Shugden people both physical and verbal but now IT’S DIRECTLY BEING CONNECTED TO THEM which is bad PR. The more Dalai Lama supporters hurl abuses on line and it’s recorded, the more it will work against CTA.
The CTA visit this blog often to keep a watch. They are embarrassed by people who write such negatives and vulgarities now and engage in name-calling in the name of Buddhism and the Dalai Lama. It reflects terribly on them. They have been getting more negative response from people around the world and more queries. The press has been picking up on these types of verbal abuses hurled at Shugden people and find it justified and alerted to the fact something is seriously wrong. They are starting to question the CTA more which is embarrassing.
We will keep posting these vulgarities hurled at Shugden people online. This is what Shugden people have to tolerate daily. But you will see NO SUCH COMMENTS from Shugden people. I have friends who informed me they will also send this article’s link to press around the world and proper authorities to keep them alert. As violent vulgarities can escalate into violence against innocent Shugden practitioners.
You see the bottom line is all this name hurling and violent words can stop overnight if His Holiness Dalai Lama speaks up to stop it. Dalai Lama should send people to engage in dialogue to settle this matter once and for all. It would benefit everyone all around. This ban and advice against peaceful Shugden practitioners was started by Tibetan leadership. They should do something to stop it as they are responsible for every person they affect with this ban. The Tibetan leadership is responsible for every harm perpetrated or planned against Shugden practitioners both verbal, psychological and physical
So much ignorance speaking here. Most of the people who practice Shugden are Caucasians? There are millions of Shugden practitioners in Tibet now.
What difference does it make what I am. My race and who I am is so transparent on the internet.
Racist comments. It’s shameful. It’s painful. Nobody is trash.
I am being asked if I am Chinese? As if being Chinese automatically makes me bad? What’s wrong with being Chinese? Even downright racism is expressed against Shugden practitioners. How shameful people will say these things in today’s world. Many pro Dalai Lama people are vulgar, rude, attack you on a personal level, racist, violent and threaten people with death. It’s amazing. No wonder CTA cannot get any headway with negotiations with China because look how Tibetan pro Dalai Lama people and their supporters behave.
No matter how friendly the Dalai Lama is with the few dwindling Western Governments who still meet him, they will never support a policy that is against China. No one will pick Dalai Lama over China. Dalai Lama cannot even enter most of the Southeast Asian countries, Nepal, Bhutan and so on. No Western Government will threaten their relations with China. Dalai Lama must make friends with China. China is powerful and has 1.2 billion people versus 6 million Tibetans. Tibetan leadership and people must stop antagonizing the Chinese Government. The Dalai Lama must open dialogue with them as the Western countries will not help in this. For the last 50 years, Dalai Lama and his ministers have gotten nowhere with negotiations with China. By being friendly with Western Governments accomplished nothing for Tibet either. Dalai Lama is 80 years old soon and not much time left. I wish Dalai Lama long life, but let’s be practical, China has the upper hand, so Tibetan leadership must make friends with China before it’s completely too late. Even India, the host of the Dalai Lama do not support Tibet over China. India must put her economy first.
Many lamas, monks, nuns, teachers and meditators ‘hang’ around countries out of Tibetan communities. Why would that make them disqualified as a monk or any sangha. Many Tibetans have illogical views and don’t think broadly hence they cannot fulfill their bigger goals. CTA must provide better education and exposure to Tibetans so they have a chance to life like anyone else. Many Tibetans are violent toward Shugden people due to ignorance, not because they are bad. I wish them well.
The Dalai Lama and Tibetans need the support of Westerners and Chinese from Taiwan and other countries, so why is it bad to ‘hang’ out with them. Much of the CTA and Tibetan community projects throughout the Tibetan settlements of India and Nepal are funded by Westerners and Chinese friends. We should not be ungrateful. There are good people and questionable people, but we should not generalize and say all Westerners and all Chinese are bad. We should be grateful that many countries even accept Tibetans to be part of their country and become citizens. Tibet losing their country is not any other country’s problem or responsibility. Now it’s time to make friends with everyone and be friends with China for the sake of six millions Tibetans in Tibet.
You will never see signs like this at the White House, Buckingham Palace, etc. but only in Tibetan settlements.
If there is no ban, why are the Dalai Lama’s people telling Dorje Shugden followers not to contact him at all?
If His Holiness was the secular leader, why are his people turning away their own citizens from him? As the secular leader, he should meet all freely and fairly to discuss and address their secular concerns, regardless of the differences in their faith and beliefs.
~ Pastor Jean Ai
Promises are made for the harassment to continue.
We are inundated with negative comments so my friends can’t help but come across vulgar comments and send to me.
Finally there is some wisdom, a light in the dark forest. Here we see some moderation, diplomacy and kindness. This is a good way to approach the issue. I like this method. Seems like some people are in favor of a more moderate approach.
It is interesting that an anti-Shugden person can recognize that other anti-Shugden people often jump to conclusions, and make unfair assumptions about the people they are directing their hatred against.
These are all posted here as it shows how much pain and abuse is hurled at innocent Shugden people. The more they attack online, the more the world will see what is really going on. I am not interested much in what online critics have to say but since my blog has huge readership, many people send these screenshots to me to publish here, to raise awareness of the discrimination against Shugden practitioners and show solid proof of the abuse we face. So the anti-Shugden online abuse is counter-productive. It is not helping anyone, especially their own cause. Our admin will keep posting what is relevant here.
Being a Buddhist or not does not seem to be taken seriously. We have refuge vows, karma and results whether we believe it or not. We don’t just throw those teachings out the window. Changing a label we are Buddhist or not does not turn off karma. If we are not a Buddhist ‘anymore’ this week, then why go on sites that are talking about Buddhist issues? LOL. Why do some speak with such authority on Buddhism when they are not a practitioner, scholar or even a believer? Then suddenly Tara helps. It’s all very confusing. I don’t know who any of these people are. My readers send me these screenshots all the time and my team finds it revealing to place it here. It shows the nature of people who attack Dorje Shugden practitioners online.
It seems no one is free from harassment. Even anti-Shugden people are harassed by other anti-Shugden people. When you don’t operate from good motivation, people start to turn on each other. Very strange yet entertaining. I’ve been told it’s just a few people going back and forth.
Another kind remark asking people who practice Shugden to go to h***. Why would you wish anyone that? Wouldn’t you wish compassion and love to all beings even your enemies? To love your enemies is divine.
Anti-Shugden people always use violent words and actions. I guess they are free from karma just because they don’t practice Shugden. At least that is what they believe. What educated, intelligent and worldly people would accept this type of behavior? Pure vulgarity, anger and hatred in the name of the Dalai Lama.
MESSAGES RECEIVED BY THE BLOG ADMIN
The messages below were received by the blog team along with the screenshot above. They were sent in by students and friends around the world who were shocked at the level of the people who can attack someone’s childhood which they had no control of.
Rinpoche I thought you might like to see this. Some people online are making a joke out of your traumatic childhood as though it’s something funny. You were so young Rinpoche, how is it your fault that you had that childhood? Who would be so heartless to mock the sufferings of an innocent child? What does this have to do with practicing Shugden?
~ Wong Siew Yen
I thought Rinpoche’s childhood was known to everyone?? Incredible some people can talk as though they’re an authority on the person’s life and spend so much time criticizing them. Yet they don’t know the first thing about the person’s childhood. They don’t even know anything about you and they are attacking you. They have to take a break and research and then attack? 🙁 these people need help themselves perhaps?
~ Jennifer Cho
This is amazing. I didn’t realize it was okay these days for people to make fun of abusive childhoods. I’m sorry to hear Rinpoche has to be the target of people like this. It’s very hard for me to see compassion or Dharmic motivation when people do or say things like this. For some people who claim to have been in Buddhism or studied it for so long, their comments don’t match the paper qualifications they apparently possess. Whatever religion you claim to be or not be or changed, you should never poke at someone’s difficult childhood. This is something we must learn from and create better societies so that no child has to suffer all this. What cold and cruel people to bring someone’s painful childhood into someone’s religious beliefs. Very low attack. I guess anti-Shugden people really make their stance look bad.
~ Phil Hamby
I just saw something online that I don’t understand. Some people were making comments about Rinpoche’s childhood? Can one of you please explain to me what an abusive childhood has to do with Dorje Shugden practice?
~ Ng See Teng
I don’t think Rinpoche has to worry too much about people like these. These people will never have the power to bring down Dorje Shugden on an equal level to the way Rinpoche has the power to spread Dorje Shugden.
These people will disappear in time and no sane person will go on their page and read their evil rantings daily. Certainly once was enough for me. They will never gain momentum on their page because they do not talk with courtesy, logic and respect for another human. Even if the other human has a belief system we don’t agree with, we still have to show respect in our speech. Especially if we are ‘representing’ some religious belief system ourselves. They are an embarrassment to their beliefs, the Dalai Lama and spirituality. Their moderators should moderate and ask them to tone down.
~ Dominic Loh
This is clear further proof how much Dorje Shugden practitioners have to suffer discrimination, segregation and vulgarities on a daily basis. All religions are to be tolerated except people of the Shugden faith. How can that be? How can one group of people be singled out and discriminated against so openly and blatantly.
The Tibetan leadership must do something about this. Tweeters like this ‘Tibet_TW’ person has no identification or location or information about himself/herself. This is dangerous. It confirms they are being paid to create dissension, harm and schism on behalf of Tibetan leadership among the Shugden people perhaps? You think why do people tweet hate messages but their identification is always hidden. Very sinister perhaps.
Another one with no name, no personal information just sending negative tweets and cyber-spamming people all the time. Tibetan leadership is happy with this because they say nothing to curb this because it makes them look bad. Also who is this person to deem His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche respected or not respected? His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche is very respected, loved and very much admired by millions.
In Tibetan, the word “tsem” is an honorific term referring to the tooth relic of Lama Tsongkhapa. My previous life was a lama of Tsem Monastery, which had in their possession one such tooth, hence my name. Here an anti-Shugden person makes fun of something as holy as the tooth relic of Lama Tsongkhapa.
Universities and their affiliated bodies are institutions of learning and thinking. Staff therefore have a responsibility to remain impartial, and to encourage their students to consider new ideas and different points-of-view. Universities are not there to decide a student’s way of thinking. So although the teaching staff, professors and scholars may have their own preferences, opinions and thoughts on an issue, they should not take sides, at least not publicly and not using official channels. The university themselves should not be seen to favor one opinion over another, especially when they are responsible for forming the thoughts of thousands of impressionable people.
It is quite disappointing therefore to see this department of Columbia University taking sides in the Dorje Shugden issue. It has been heavily understood and rumoured that Professor Robert Thurman handles the tweets on this account. If Prof Thurman is taking sides, it is not very professional to associate the university’s official channels with personal views. We all have friends from various different backgrounds, histories and upbringings. Just because we are friends does not mean we always have to agree on everything or endorse everything each other does LOL
This Tibetan is actually truthful and admits to the ban and Shugden people being out casted. He even praises His Holiness for out casting Dorje Shugden people. That is incredible. Within the Tibetan communities we are all very aware of the ban but have been told not to say it obviously as it makes the Tibetan leadership or CTA look very bad. But this person tells you clearly of the ban and how Shugden people are ostracized.
Pro-Dalai Lama Tibetans and their supporters always engage in the use of the most vulgar language always. No dialogue, intelligent discussions or logical debates. Just pure vulgarity. Yet we are said to have freedom of religion. If there is freedom of religion why the constant verbal abuse and approved by Tibetan leadership? Does this represent His Holiness the Dalai Lama very well or the Tibetan leadership in Dharamsala.
Pro-Dalai Lama are vulgar and they have no limits of what they can say. Even they can use Guru Padmasambhava to degrade me. Amazing.
How incredible someone can say His Holiness the Dalai Lama will be ‘infuriated’. He talks negatively and makes His Holiness sound so angersome and temperamental. If I practice Shugden and the Dalai Lama will be ‘infuriated’, then something is wrong. I think this person’s view about the Dalai Lama and our practice is completely wrong and ignorant.
Now this is amazing. “If he keeps this up, his days in this incarnation will be numbered. In fact, if he’s not careful he may not see the end of the year.” Can you imagine anyone making a statement like this. After this horrible statement is made, then below you’ll see another person believes the Tibetan community will ignore this. But then again it is INSISTED that “There will be those who will take it as a personal affront and do something about it.” Very sinister. It will be a personal affront to them because I practice Shugden therefore I will not see the end of this year! I have to be careful. What does that mean? They are insisting I will not see the end of this year (2015). Is the person posting this intending to harm me? Or they know or heard something which makes them complicit to someone else intending to harm me? This is a crime.
This is what many Dorje Shugden practitioners have been saying, that they are spat upon, abused, threatened, biased against, beaten or threatened with their lives. Tibetan leadership says there is no violence against Dorje Shugden practitioners and this is not true. They want us to keep silent and accept the abuse and taunts and be persecuted for our faith but we will not remain silent. Where is the religious freedom? I want you to remember, all this abuse is just for practicing the faith of our choice. They are shocked I practice Shugden but not at all shocked when they threaten murder. We are talking killing. What kind of Buddhists are these people? What kind of people are these people? This type of talk has gone too far. This is exactly what the CTA or Tibetan leadership wants. When this is seen here, it is shameful for Tibetan leadership to allow and perpetuate this type of violence. If the CTA does not agree with this, these people here have gravely misrepresented the CTA then. Either way very shameful.
I am threatened in this manner only because I practice Dorje Shugden. Can you imagine in this day and age? You have judge, jury and executioner all rolled into one literally. If something should happen to me this person will be held responsible as they gave clear evidence by their post of their threats to my life. The people on this thread will be held complicit. People open up pages on social media to threaten other people’s lives. How can they allow or entertain this type of talk?? What kind of people will allow this type of talk? This is amazing and truly shocking. The moderators if any on this page and participants who allow this type of talk and threats and will be held responsible by association. If you don’t moderate this, then what type of moderator are you? Why do the participants participate in a crime to be? Many were outright angry and disgusted when they read this. How can other participants be involved in this type of talk? What can be worse than allowing threats to someone’s life? This is not freedom of speech but actual threats that must be taken seriously. I am glad I am recording everything here as evidence. If anything happens to me, it is all written here clearly. Everything is saved. No threat to anyone’s life should ever be taken lightly.
This monk is pleased with the death threats and is encouraging her to talk more.
What I practice is not anyone’s business. I don’t ask them to join me nor tag them nor post on their page. Why come to my page daily and extract my posts and then write all types of unpleasant comments, question my ancestry and threaten murder? Murder! Go and find other things to talk about. Stop talking negatively.
A monk can allow this type of talk on his post where they talk about killing me and I won’t see the rest of this year. How can a monk call me all types of names but allow the talk on murder in this page? How can a Buddhist monk allow this type of talk? Look at what others on this post are saying. They accuse me of not being Tibetan. If I was not Tibetan, why would I say I am Tibetan? What is so glamorous about being Tibetan? They call me Taiwanese as if it’s some sort of a racial put down. What does my race have to do with anything? What’s with the racist remarks? They know next to nothing about me, yet only criticize. I am not secret about my ancestry. It is all on my blog clearly.
Some say they know me. When they meet me once then they know me? I find it interesting how some of these people have met me once or never and seem to be able to be an authority on me, my life, works, intentions and ancestry. None of them know me. I wish so much their anger and other deep seated issues get resolved and stop threatening others’ lives. This is pure hatred. (Read here: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=63769 )
They can even criticize the money being used for the statues in my centre (which is none of their business. I do what I want) and that the money should be used to lessen the poverty in the exiled Tibetan communities. Am I the only one they attack for big statues just because I practice Shugden? Look below. If I am not Tibetan, then why is it I have to help the Tibetan exiled communities when there are many other refugees all over the world that need even more help? How do you know who I am helping and not helping? What is amazing is all these attacks and vicious talk is only because I practice Shugden. Amazing! I should be killed for this according to them. I should be killed for practicing Shugden but let’s not forget I have religious freedom and there is no ban? Does this make sense? I will not see the end of this year according to their threats. Their posts are getting more and more vicious and criminal now.
Why do people using a Tibetan flag consistently send tweet messages making highly racist remarks? Does this make the Dalai Lama followers, the Tibet cause and their religious discrimination campaign against Dorje Shugden followers look good or is it self-defeating?
Also these people have no names, no identities, no pictures or any hint of who they are doing this. If you are doing this, would you not put your face and name to it if you are 100% sure of your ‘just’ cause? I am Tibetan and among Tibetans it is talked about constantly that the Central Tibetan Administration (formerly known as Tibetan Government-in-Exile) in Dharamsala fund these people to do this. Why to degrade and enforce the Shugden unjust ban? I am told this by many.
How can a monk who goes on someone else’s page, force his opinions on others in a rude manner and then tell them to “SHUT YOU MOUTH”???
As a resident of the United States and therefore protected by American law, it is illegal to put people like Lungrik Palden on lists like these (http://tibet.net/dolgyal-shugden). These lists disrespect American values like freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
And ethically, is it right to identify people who are only peacefully exercising their freedom of speech and religion by treating them as though they are criminals?
This person says we can practice anyway meaning we can practice Dorje Shugden but just don’t show it on the street? Which we assume means don’t show it publicly. That would be strange if there is no restrictions or bans. Why not be open about it? Or the second scenario which is if you are on the streets, other Tibetans can hurt you, harm you physically if they know you are practicing Dorje Shugden. Tibetan Dorje Shugden practitioners get threats of violence all the time. It’s commonplace. So if we practice openly and we can be harmed, who started this? Of course the Tibetan leadership. They started the Dorje Shugden ban and incited the crowd against practitioners of Dorje Shugden. You see, it is simple – if the Tibetan leadership wants to stop all the threats and violence, they can do so by announcing that people should not do any harm due to religious differences. They can send strong messages by YouTube, on their websites, by Facebook, by their newspapers and by word-of-mouth. At the Dalai Lama’s public talks it can be announced. But it is not done so. Why? Because they want us to harmed? This speech was made by His Holiness to expel all Shugden monks. This was a very sad event indeed…
It is amazing how violent people are and always threaten pain, killing and murder just because your religion is different. People say that Dorje Shugden practitioners are free to practice. But I don’t agree. If they were free to practice, why are there death threats to Dorje Shugden practitioners daily? See the truth in these posts. Violent, hateful, spiteful. This is allowed by the Tibetan leadership? If so, why?
This person is an atheist. Yet she gets involved in the Shugden issue which is none of her business. No one goes on her social media wall or posts anything in her space, yet she comes to my space and post things that are racist and vulgar constantly. What I practice is NONE of her business yet she tells me I cannot practice and criticizes, harasses and constantly sends hate messages. Her messages are racist. She knows nothing of the Malaysian laws and religious order here. She knows nothing of the Bumiputra situation here and the laws that apply to them here about religion. Yet in her deep ignorance she can say why only Chinese are with me. Any Malaysian who reads this will understand what the Malaysian dynamics are. And she is vulgar. Why is she speaking against Shugden people, as this is none of her business.
Above are some remarks made about me that have been posted on an anti-Dorje Shugden Facebook group which my friends sent to me. They are comments about my appearance, my weight, my abilities or perceived lack of it. They even make fun of my childhood when I suffered from physical, mental and emotional abuse. What kind of people make fun of a person’s childhood, which they have no control over when they are a child? None of the comments have anything to do with the Shugden issue, or the division of the Tibetan community, or the schism in the sangha and the split of the monasteries. The comments do not address any of the issues at hand.
This is just one of many examples of rude, personal remarks that have been made about me. What is incredible is that I have never had any prolonged contact or close communication with these people. Most of them, I have never even met. Yet they can direct so much hatred and anger and vulgarities towards me. Are they really interested in the Dorje Shugden issue or do they have some kind of personal agenda that they are trying to promote? Or do they have some kind of deep-seated issues that they are having difficulties dealing with, so they project onto others and have to be vulgar towards them so they distract from themselves? It must be very tiring to be so hateful all the time, especially when the object of your hate (in this case, me) has never done anything to you directly, much less even met you.
This is how a monk who supports His Holiness the Dalai Lama speaks to other people, let alone Dorje Shugden practitioners.
From a Bhutanese who can write these types of things just because your faith is different
The image of me above, and the next four images below of me carrying these so-called signs are fake. They have been photoshopped from my original pleas which can be found here. The Tibetan leadership say we have religious freedom yet people like @snowlions continue with their behaviour, targeting me and my students with vulgar insults and accusations on a daily basis. If this type of harassment is the the consequence of my religious beliefs, then where is the religious freedom?
Another photoshopped image from @snowlions on Twitter. The original can be found here.
Is this the type of behaviour that the Tibetan leadership approves of? How come this anonymous @snowlions person can spend every single day on Twitter attacking me and photoshopping photos of me. The original plea I did to His Holiness the Dalai Lama can be found here.
Another photoshopped image. The original plea I did to His Holiness the Dalai Lama can be found here. If this is the result of our practice, then why does the Tibetan leadership insist we have religious freedom and there is no ban? Why would @snowlions photoshop images of me if there was no ban and my practice is not wrong, because I have religous freedom?
Another vulgar tweet targeted at one of my students with a photoshopped image of me. The original plea I did to His Holiness the Dalai Lama can be found here.
In this case, someone who is not even Buddhist recognises the vulgarities and disgusting, violent language that is directed at Dorje Shugden practitioners, and he sympathises. He even goes so far as to quote scripture from his own faith to defend Dorje Shugden practitioners.
This Facebook page advocates, agrees with and allows violence, hatred and death to people who do not agree with their religious stance. So those who pray to or wish to pray to Dorje Shugden are threatened and people are encouraged to kill them. This Facebook page and its participants advocate very strongly the killing of people who do not agree with their religious stance. This is not religious freedom; it is a crime. This is what Dorje Shugden practitioners have to deal with on a daily basis – degradation, hatred, and threats to their lives.
Look at this ‘interesting’ email sent to me. Just because I practice Dorje Shugden I get discriminated against. Many hurl abuses, hatred and send hate messages nearly daily. They say practicing Dorje Shugden is negative, but what they do to us is even more negative and does not justify their ‘spiritual’ evolution. These people do not even know me, never met me or have nothing to do with me. But just because I follow Dorje Shugden, my whole existence is defined by this to them and they deem I should suffer abuses. What is wrong if we practice the faith that we feel is right for us? Why do others have to interfere, judge or send abuse with the faith of my choice? But although we as Dorje Shugden practitioners are told we have the ‘freedom’ to practice Dorje Shugden, yet we are abused if we do. Ironic. Hence it would be good if the Tibetan leadership in Dharamsala spoke up about the unnecessary abuses towards Dorje Shugden Buddhists and bring peace to all Tibetan Buddhists by ending the unethical ban against the worship of Dorje Shugden. By ending the ban, the hatred towards Dorje Shugden practitioners will stop and the beginning of harmony starts. Doesn’t the Tibetan leadership want harmony? Doesn’t everyone want harmony? I do.
I grew up in Howell, New Jersey and the first temple I ever went to was Rashi Gempil Ling where I met my first guru His Eminence Kensur Lobsang Tharchin Rinpoche. It is the temple I attended as a child, where I received my refuge from Kensur Rinpoche, where I received my first initiation and attended many other spiritual events.
Now it is clear that I am not welcomed there because of my Dorje Shugden practice and works, and only because of this. This person writes very clearly that I am not and that my teachings are not held in high esteem for this. Whether or not my teachings are held in high esteem is not the issue here. The issue here is that I am not welcomed and viewed with disdain and to be avoided only because of my Dorje Shugden practice.
I have lost my relatives and friends in my hometown because of my practice of Dorje Shugden and fight for the ban to come down. When I post things on their Facebook pages, my comments are deleted. This person has confirmed that I have no hometown, no relatives, no childhood friends, no monastery, very little monastic friends, no country or countrymen because of my spiritual convictions. Only because of my spiritual convictions. I am taunted, unfriended and hated daily on Internet as you can see from all of the comments above (nearly 400 comments).
I have to take quite a lot to bring Dorje Shugden to others, but this will not make me give up my commitment to my guru, practice and Dorje Shugden which Kensur Rinpoche also relied on. Kensur Rinpoche received sogtae from His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche.
It is sad when all that I know, and I am familiar with and love are gone because of my religion and I didn’t do anything wrong.
This is a comment that was left on my Facebook. The person is SURPRISED that I’m still alive just because I practise Dorje Shugden. This means that the threat IS very real and that people have definitely been killed for their practice. Is this religious freedom and democracy? What kind of religious freedom is there when someone risks death because of their beliefs?
Here is another comment that was sent privately to my Facebook telling me that my “days are numbered”.
This is how Dorje Shugden practitioners get threatened all the time. Pay a heavy “preis” (price) would mean what? You think.
As you can see, it’s not just a one-off message that we receive. Several of my friends and people around the world I haven’t met have informed me about this issue and sent me multiple examples of the abuse against me and Dorje Shugden practitioners that they find. I am sent these screenshots and my admin people add them here as they come along to show everyone how unreasonable and hurtful the anti-Shugden people can be. They put you down, attack you and then turn around and say it’s for a good cause. The means doesn’t always justify the ends.
People now should be careful what they post on line about others. There is legal recourse now as the courts in UK have set powerful precedence for the world to follow. All negative, abusive, vulgar, repeated posts by others should be saved and consult legally what can be done. Those who have suffered in any way may seek legal advice. Even those who post defamatory remarks anonymously can be subpoenaed by the courts. Do read more: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=61867
Message from the Blog Admin:
We will leave these comments here as proof of the viciousness of online attacks against Shugden people which can lead to violence against Shugden believers. We will add more as they come along for the world to see here. With the large readership this blog has, more and more people will see how dangerous and harmful these people can be. The more they write, the more they prove themselves harmful and dangerous. We thank all the people who have been sending these derogatory and degrading screenshots. It’s sad humans do this to other humans. We should respect even our ‘enemies’.
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