The Dalai Lama Speaks Clearly About the Dorje Shugden Ban

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Since 1996, Dorje Shugden practitioners have been suppressed, marginalised and ostracised as a result of their faith, practice and refusal to give up Dorje Shugden as their Dharma Protector. The ban was formalised and made official with the passing of three resolutions in the Tibetan Parliament which stated clearly the Tibetan leadership’s reasons for discouraging and banning the practice.

As a result, over the last 19 years, thousands of signs, memos and notifications have been disseminated throughout the Tibetan settlements banning Dorje Shugden practitioners. Some of these memos and signs even go so far as to identify Shugden practitioners so that violence may be directed against them.

Despite such overwhelming evidence that there is a ban on Dorje Shugden practice, many supporters of the Tibetan leadership continue to insist that there is no ban. Their insistence contradicts videos like this where His Holiness the Dalai Lama declares that monks who refuse to give up their practice of Dorje Shugden should be expelled from their monasteries.

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At the time this video above was filmed in Drepung Monastery in 2008, His Holiness the Dalai Lama was still the spiritual and secular leader of Tibet. Speaking in such a capacity, he was directing the monasteries to expel and make homeless hundreds of monks who continued to rely on Dorje Shugden. His Holiness is very clear in this video; if people do not give up the practice, by the order of the Dalai Lama, they should be expelled from their monasteries.

The video also shows that throughout the years, His Holiness has been inconsistent in his speeches about how to treat Dorje Shugden practitioners. In some speeches, His Holiness calls for an outright expulsion of monks from the monastery because there is a ban on the practice. In other speeches, His Holiness says it is just encouragement to give up the practice.

If it’s just advice and encouragement, then it implies there is choice whether people want to keep the practice or not. Since there is a choice, there is no need for His Holiness to keep advising against Dorje Shugden again and again; after expressing his advice, His Holiness should leave the choice up to everyone.

And if it’s just advice, and there is no ban on Dorje Shugden, why do the monks need to be expelled from the monasteries? Why are they not allowed to stay with their teachers and friends whom they have lived and practised with for hundreds of years, without any problem?

If there is no ban on Dorje Shugden, and it is just encouragement, does this mean that the monasteries are free to invite the expelled monks back into the fold since they (the monastic administration) are therefore not necessarily bound by the Tibetan leadership’s advice?

Despite the inconsistencies in His Holiness’ speeches, the overall theme is clear – give up Dorje Shugden’s practice. This is not the first time that His Holiness has made clear his feelings regarding Dorje Shugden and the practice. In another video filmed for Swiss TV, His Holiness the Dalai Lama says that his teachers were wrong for practising and propagating the practice of Dorje Shugden.

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Dorje Shugden has been a Dharma Protector for 400 years, relied upon by countless attained masters, for example His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche and His Holiness Ling Rinpoche, both of whom were the Dalai Lama’s tutors.

Although hundreds, if not thousands, of attained lamas have taught about Dorje Shugden’s enlightened nature, His Holiness the Dalai Lama in this video is saying that all of these great masters are wrong in their knowledge, and only the Dalai Lama is correct in the matter.

Is it possible that 400 years’ worth of attained beings could be wrong on this matter but faultless in all other ways? How can erudite scholars and eminent teachers who are qualified to lead people to Buddhahood, be correct on everything else and be wrong about Dorje Shugden? Is His Holiness really saying that 400 years of Buddhist masters were engaged in and propagating spirit worship? That his own teachers were involved in spirit worship and even he himself, the Dalai Lama, was engaged in spirit worship for over 30 years?

How can such masters who are regarded as Buddhas with full clairvoyance be correct on everything else, and be wrong about Dorje Shugden? And how can ONLY His Holiness the Dalai Lama be correct about Dorje Shugden, and all of these other masters are wrong? Surely if they could be wrong in this, then His Holiness too could also manifest mistakes in some things, for example the ban on Dorje Shugden.

We should examine His Holiness’ declaration that his gurus are wrong according to the 50 Stanzas of Guru Devotion, the seminal text on guru devotion composed by the great Indian pandit Ashvagosha:

24. (A disciple) having great sense should obey the words of his Guru joyfully and with enthusiasm. If you lack the knowledge or ability (to do what he says), explain in (polite) words why you cannot (comply).

Just because His Holiness the Dalai Lama disagrees with the practice of Dorje Shugden and does not wish to continue with the practice himself, other people should not be obliged or required to comply with his decision.

For thousands of people His Holiness advises to give up the practice of Dorje Shugden, these people have received direct instructions from their own teachers to rely on Dorje Shugden. It is not right or ethical for any teacher to override the instructions of another teacher; it is not right or ethical for His Holiness to override the instructions other people have received from their teachers.

16. (If from a lack of awareness you have shown disrespect) to your Guru, reverently present an offering to him and seek his forgiveness. Then in the future such harms and plagues will not befall you.

In saying that his teachers are wrong, His Holiness the Dalai Lama opens the possibility that other teachings that his tutors Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and Kyabje Ling Rinpoche gave to him are also incorrect. In that case, what is right and what is wrong that His Holiness the Dalai Lama is teaching everyone today? Perhaps some of the other teachings that His Holiness the Dalai Lama transmits to his students today, which he received from Trijang Rinpoche and Ling Rinpoche, are also mistaken.

His Holiness Ling Rinpoche (left throne) and His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche (right throne) were the two tutors of His Holiness the Dalai Lama.

If we create the view that our teacher is wrong, then we also open up the doors for our gurus to be wrong in many other things. If that is the case, the whole basis for guru devotion is gone because what other things can our teachers also be wrong in?

Guru devotion and never disparaging our teachers is not a fanatical or archaic practice that should be done away with. As you study Buddhism further, there are deeper reasons for this and it is very important to practise this especially within the tantric practices which is the highest vehicle to Buddhahood. We should not be selective and choose based on our personal convenience what the ancient masters have written clearly that we should and should not do.

According to the guidelines composed by the Indian pandit Ashvagosha for sutric and tantric practitioners, we should never disparage, criticise or say our guru is wrong. By His Holiness the Dalai Lama clearly saying that all previous gurus are wrong and he is correct, the Dalai Lama is breaking an ancient, yet still relevant, Buddhist tantric code of never showing disrespect to our gurus. This code includes never saying our guru is wrong. When we say our guru is wrong as His Holiness the Dalai Lama here says about Trijang Rinpoche, then he decreases everyone’s faith in Trijang Rinpoche.

His Holiness the Dalai Lama also makes everyone decrease their faith in him. It makes people wonder, if other teachers can be wrong, then His Holiness the Dalai Lama can also manifest being wrong too. And if His Holiness the Dalai Lama can also manifest being wrong too then due to this manifestation, we can say that his view of Dorje Shugden’s practice is also wrong.

15. Therefore, exert yourself wholeheartedly never to belittle your Tantric Master who makes no display of his great wisdom and virtues.

The pandit and erudite master Ashvagosha here says we should never belittle our Tantric Master. His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche, one of the Dalai Lama’s tutors, has conferred countless initiations of the four classes of tantra to His Holiness the Dalai Lama. It is therefore without a doubt that His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche is His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama’s Tantric Master.

Here, His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche (left), one of the tutors of His Holiness the Dalai Lama, confers one of countless tantric initiations on the Dalai Lama (right). Trijang Rinpoche is therefore undoubtedly the Dalai Lama’s tantric master.

Dorje Shugden was the heart Protector of His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche throughout his life, and Trijang Rinpoche diligently practised and relied upon Dorje Shugden. Trijang Rinpoche composed an extremely comprehensive volume about Dorje Shugden, covering everything about Dorje Shugden, his background, nature and practice. And Trijang Rinpoche, the teacher of teachers, also advised and instructed his thousands of disciples (inclusive of erudite masters, tulkus, geshes and students) to practise Dorje Shugden.

So if His Holiness the Dalai Lama is saying his gurus are wrong, as can clearly be seen in the video above, would that not constitute belittling his Tantric Master, which His Holiness the Dalai Lama is manifesting? How then can His Holiness the Dalai Lama say something like this about his teacher, yet still expect us to respect his decisions regarding Dorje Shugden?

To this day, Dorje Shugden practitioners continue to be abused, belittled, ostracised and violently discriminated against. They are denied the treatment at clinics and hospitals in the Tibetan settlements, barred from shops and restaurants, and forbidden from holding any position in the Tibetan civil service. Their children are blacklisted and bullied at school. Shugden practitioners are shunned by their family and relatives; in the community, they are treated as pariahs.

Contrast this to, for example, an immigrant in the United States or United Kingdom. Once naturalised as a citizen, they are treated exactly the same as people born in the USA or UK. They are afforded the same rights and viewed as American or British; they are not viewed nor treated as immigrants. Their children are not viewed as immigrants or outsiders, and can ascend to the highest offices of the land, even becoming President of the United States or Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

The volume of text composed by His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche, titled “Music Delighting the Ocean of Protectors”. It is an extremely comprehensive text on Dorje Shugden’s nature, history, background and rituals, and contains everything you need to know about Dorje Shugden practice from A to Z.

The Tibetan leadership wants Dorje Shugden practitioners to respect the Dalai Lama. They want Tibetan society to be united, and for Dorje Shugden practitioners to join in protests, events and activities in support of the Tibetan cause. But the same leadership that expects Dorje Shugden practitioners to be loyal to the Dalai Lama and Tibet, are the same leadership who actively discriminate against Shugden practitioners. They institutionalise the discrimination and abuse of Dorje Shugden practitioners by enshrining it within their own Tibetan constitution.

And when Dorje Shugden practitioners supposedly receive support from China, the Tibetan community complain and accuse them of being traitors. But it was their ostracisation and marginalisation that drove Shugden practitioners in that direction to begin with! It was the Tibetan leadership’s discrimination that isolated Dorje Shugden worshipers, and prevented them from assimilating with Tibetan society, and supposedly pushed Dorje Shugden practitioners in the direction of alleged Chinese support! Ironically, China being an atheist government fully gives religious freedom and supports the practice of Dorje Shugden, saying it is a private affair.

Considering all of this, Shugden practitioners have very little incentive to give up their Dharma Protector practice. If the Tibetan leadership want Shugden practitioners to fully assimilate into Tibetan society, and to comply with everything the Tibetan leadership expects of the Tibetans, then the leadership must view Dorje Shugden practitioners as Tibetans with full-fledged rights, regardless of their faith or beliefs. They must grant the same rights and privileges to Shugden practitioners that all other Tibetans receive, whether they are Tibetan Buddhist, Bön practitioners, Jonangpas or Tibetan Muslims.

Despite videos like these where His Holiness is insistent that there is a ban on Dorje Shugden, there are people who continue to insist there is no ban. For something as significant as a ban on religious practice that removes people’s freedoms, everyone should be clear on it. The mixed reaction towards the ban on Dorje Shugden reflects the Tibetan leadership’s intent to confuse their people and to send out inconsistent messages. These messages are inconsistent because the ban is illogical and as the reasons given for the ban are broken down, then the advice and reasons to give up the practice of course have to change from time to time.

The issue is not whether there is a ban or not. The real issue is whether people have the religious freedom to select whatever faith they wish. People’s faiths should be a personal matter and choice, and not one that is selected, dictated or governed by the state. From these videos, it is very clear to see that there is a ban on the practice of Dorje Shugden started by the Tibetan leadership, and it is not something that has been dreamt up and made up by the four million practitioners all over the world.

So in Tibetan society, the expectation for you to respect the leadership and the Dalai Lama is the same regardless of whether you are a Shugden practitioner or not. But there are different rules of law and treatment depending on your faith and religion – if you do not practise Shugden, you are accepted and receive all the “benefits” of being an accepted member of Tibetan society. I am not saying I do not like the Dalai Lama, which I do, but democratically-speaking, the citizens of the country are allowed to have opinions about their leaders. Democratically, they may or may not like their leaders, and they have every right to express their opinions. However, the leaders of every country must still respect their citizens equally and remain impartial. So a person may not like the Dalai Lama, a person may not agree with him, but His Holiness the Dalai Lama still has to like them. He still has to respect them because he is a leader and as a leader, he cannot be biased. In every democratic country, you can see millions of citizens who criticise their leaders or are not in agreement with their policies, but the leaders must still be impartial and must still treat those citizens equally with the citizens who do agree with their policies.

But this is not the case in Tibetan society. In Tibetan society, if you practise Dorje Shugden, you are not treated equally. If you practise Dorje Shugden, you must still support the Tibetan cause. You must still respect the leadership even though the leadership are the ones isolating you because of your choice of faith. So where is the incentive for Dorje Shugden practitioners to assimilate into Tibetan society? How do we assimilate when the Tibetan leadership does not allow it due to our religious choice of practising Dorje Shugden? I would like to again reiterate, leaders must care about and treat all of their citizens equally regardless of race, gender and religion but all citizens do not necessarily have to agree with everything their leaders say. That treatment of a leader to its citizens equally without having the citizens necessarily agreeing with the leadership is a mark of democracy, human rights and fair leadership. In other words in any democratic nation, the leaders must respect and treat all citizens equally regardless if the citizens agree with all policies and beliefs of the leadership. Should this not apply to Tibetan society also?

I am sorry if my words towards His Holiness the Dalai Lama is strong and seems disrespectful as I do not mean it to be. Please remember we have suffered the Dorje Shugden ban and segregation nearly for two decades now.  We really would like the peaceful resolution to the ban against Dorje Shugden practitioners to manifest very soon.

Humbly and apologetically,

Tsem Rinpoche
Together with Pastor Khong Jean Ai


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  1. heng meng kiat on Feb 13, 2016 at 6:09 pm

    Dear Dorje Shugden practitioner and Dorje Shugden protester ( CTA and HH the Dalai Lama )

    1) The action of CTA and HH The Dalai Lama contradictory against human right base on the evidence that show in video

    If u guy still remember back to 10 December 1989 in University Aula, Oslo, HH the Dalai Lama giving the Nobel Peace Prize Acceptance Speech, His Holiness did mention ” No matter what part of the world we come from, we are all basically the same human beings. We all seek happiness and try to avoid suffering. We have the same basic human needs and is concerns. All of us human beings want freedom and the right to determine our own destiny as individuals and as peoples. That is human nature. The great changes that are taking place everywhere in the world, from Eastern Europe to Africa are a clear indication of this.” the quote extract from

    Is very clear that the ban and the action is discriminate against same race ” Tibetan who practice Dorje Shugden ” What His Holiness the Dalai Lama said during Nobel Peace Price Acceptance ceremony totally not matching his ideology on world peace. i personally feel doubt and confuse on the speech of His Holiness the Dalai Lama . My statement is fair because i’m not Tibetan from both side. I personally feel as a leader, he/she must beware on his speech and statement, if the statement that deliver in the public are not accordance or hiding the facts, unnecessary misunderstanding will arise from different party.

    i wish to take this opportunity requesting CTA and His Holiness the Dalai Lama lift the Dorje Shugden practice Ban base on the solid evident and proof that Dorje Shugden no Harm to people who practice it and give back the freedom to Tibetan people who practice Dorje Shugden

  2. freon on Jan 20, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    Clearly there is a ban on Dorje Shugden. If no ban, why does H.H Dalai Lama have to impose rules on Dorje Shugden’s practitioners are not allowed to attend His Holiness talk.

    It is very clear that H.H Dalai Lama is contradict on what he have said.

    Anyway, no matter how much they trying to clarify no ban or to cover it. It is best to have dialog with both party. To determine what have to be done. After all, this ban have no benefit but bring more hatred and confusion. H.H Dalai Lama always emphasize on peace talk. Hopefully this time, he can resolve this issue with peace talk.

  3. Beatrix Ooi on Jan 19, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    The ban on Dorje Shugden practise has been going on for too long now and even in the 21st century where we are supposed to be more advanced and civilised. On top of that, the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA) has claimed to be democratic but does violating peoples’ religious freedom sound democratic to you? They have taken the ban to another step where Dorje Shugden practitioners are not allowed to enter schools, offices, and even hospitals that are government operated. This shows that their religious preferences is more important that those peoples’ lives and education. What kind of leader is that supposed to be?

    With all the respect, I think that His Holiness should respect our religious freedom and rights and eliminate the ban on Dorje Shugden practise. His Holiness is not everyone’s guru, therefore He does not have the right or authority to override our gurus and stop us from propitiating Dorje Shugden. When we take refuge, we take refuge in our Guru first, Buddha, Dharma then Sangha. Our Guru is the one who gives us the Buddhadharma and teachings, therefore He is “higher” than the Buddha in this case. With this alone, it has said a lot about guru devotion and keeping our samaya clean. When our guru has given us a certain teachings or initiation, we should continue with the practise until the day we die, no other gurus have the authority to override the instructions. Guru devotion or keeping the samaya clean is one of the most important elements in having a successful spiritual practise/ journey. So when His Holiness is forcing the people to abandon the practise, indirectly He is “encouraging” people to not keep their promises.

    His Holiness is a great Lama, although our religious preferences may differ but I still respect Him very very much. I hope the ban on the Dorje Shugden practise will be lifted very swiftly and smoothly so that all the discrimination, segregation and sufferings may stop.

  4. Lama Konchok Shempeh on Jan 16, 2016 at 10:14 am

    yes, you are right Tsem Tulku Rinpoche. Because of my practice of Setrap and Dorje Shugden and following exactly the Dharma Protector’s wishes I lost my apartment, my job, and my sanity by being placed back on medications that made me emotionally unstable. It is all because I did what the Dharma Protector asked of me to the word and never listened to the people who were there to threaten or harass me. That is why I look at the situation I am in and still say that it is better to practice Dorje Shugden then to give way to these people who are causing the problems and discriminating for whatever reason because I cannot find another reason for it other than my practice and following Tsem Tulku Rinpoche and continuing to do so to this day and being treated like this. That is why I side with Tsem Tulku Rinpoche and wish to share in his karma of practicing Dorje Shugden based on the abuse he has received and that I must be receiving too because I have followed his advice and it is how I met my Dharma Protector who said unless I wanted to walk to do exactly as he said and I still agree to this day. I believe that since Tsem Tulku Rinpoche is suffering because of it it is not an excuse and it is valid to not only say that the treatment of such practioners is unjust but also to promote the practice based on these principles too, as to support Tsem Tulku Rinpoche as well as others. That is why I take the stance that because Rinpoche has suffered because of it, so haven’t I and for that reason we must support him and not only that do our part by following his teaching and doing our practice as well. It comes to the point where there is nothing else you can do.

  5. Edwin Tan on Jan 15, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    Dear Rinpoche,

    Thank u for taking the time to write about this issue and highlight the inconsistencies in HH Dalai Lama’s speeches over the few years, and the ill treatment of the Tibetan Government in exile.

    The ban and the persecution of Dorje Shugden practitioners are apparent, even in countries outside Tibet / India. I have on many occasions spoken to friends in Singapore and Malaysia about my practice of Dorje Shugden and afterwards kept me at arm’s length. The more open minded friends will have discussions and debates with me and we will talk over it calmly and peacefully to understand the situation. I believe this should be the case to a more compassionate and peaceful future.

    Talks open up more avenues, open the mind and can allow practitioners and non-practitioners of Dorje Shugden to understand one another. Yet sadly, this is not happening between the government and his people.

    Guru Devotion stands out very clearly in this article for me.. especially when HHDL stated his teachers were wrong about Dorje Shugden’s practice. When His Holiness said that, it indirectly posted doubts about students who followed their teachers for years on the practice. Why create doubts yet have students follow guru devotion?

    Isn’t this creating more bad karma as in the 50 stanzas.. it is clearly written that we should follow the advice of our teachers and if we don’t or doubt, we need to seek clarifications, otherwise the karma that follows will be hugely negative?

    I do hope peace can prevail among practitioners and non-practitioners of Dorje Shugden’s so all can live with all in perfect harmony without discrimination.

    Thank you.

  6. Datuk May on Jan 11, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    The ban itself is a violation of human rights in the 21st century but to add further injustice to this violation, is the inconsistency of what the Dalai Lama says and acts.

    Many leaders will speak the words of their listeners but I am sure that with this very clear explanations and indications in this blog post, there will be no doubt in the minds of any logical person that the Dalai Lama imposed the Ban and His officers of CTA executed all the appropriate punishments at their own whims and fancy.

    Being in Malaysia, we have freedom of religion but yet when I tell others that I worship Dorje Shugden, I am frowned upon.

    The Dalai Lama is an international well known Tibetan monk and His influence spreads all over.

    Buddhism is about alleviating sufferings, WHY does the Dalai Lama feels the right to inflict sufferings. I would then question where is compassion, the most important aspect of Buddhism.

    I find no equation to this Ban and inflicting sufferings as to the tenets of Buddhism and as such to me this Ban is not only a violation of freedom of religion but totally out of context.

  7. Geleck Gyaltsen on Jan 10, 2016 at 7:54 pm

    First of all Shugden is not a protector, but a destroyer.People here had never listened fully and clearly about his holiness reason to give up this practice.Only thing the fault finders need to heard from his holiness is “give up this practice” and never listened the rest regarding how he experimented dolgyal as destroyer and not a protecter. Since most of you are speaking in general view and doesn’t fully understand the concept of ‘compassion’ in real Buddhist sense. His holiness has only compassion for those subjects of evil practitioners and he don’t want them to suffer.

    A Buddhist story ” A hunter once being so many times pleaded by a sage to not kill the deer and verbal discussions continues with hunter blantant giving fool answers one after the another( which sounds almost true if some another fool heard his answers) when the hunter was about to kill the deer, sage killed him with his power.The sage killed him because he doesn’t only have the compassion for the deer but to that hunter also because he can foresee that hunters taking many more lives in future and his sins and sufferings because of his bad ‘karma’ keeps on increasing, so the sage don’t want that to happen ”

    People here also don’t know that political system and religious institutions (faith is above all) works totally different. His holiness has every right to say to his followers, whether to choose him or the destroyer.It is his monastry with his subjects and it is that simple if you don’t trust him, then why stay with him and all his followers. Shugden followers were free to build monasteries on their own and practice!!! so they did, then why fuss about secular rights unless Chinese are paying this political party a hefty sum to turmoil our society ( I have every proof you need if you ask from me )

    People here say Tibetans physically abuse Shugden or dolgyal followers, i am from Bylakuppe the largest Tibetan Settlement in India and I never personally interfere in there interest and neither do I have heard or his holiness followers will do something like that. They are the one who beat up our representative and his family in midst of night. ”

    On February 4, 1997, the principal of the Buddhist School of Dialectics, Geshe Lobsang Gyatso was murdered in Dharmasala, along with two of his students.[4] Kay notes “The subsequent investigation by the Indian police linked the murders to the Dorje Shugden faction of the exiled Tibetan community.”[5]

    In June 2007, the Times stated that Interpol had issued a Red notice to China for extraditing two of the alleged killers, Lobsang Chodak and Tenzin Chozin.[6]

    Robert Thurman notes that the alleged killers had their origin within China as well.[7]

    Relation to Shugden practitioners

    Prithvi Raj (PR), Chief Police of Kangra District said: “We have identified two of the murderers, and we have clear indications that the murderers are directly linked to the Dorje Shugden association and directly connecting these murderers with the case. But so far we have not been able to arrest them. One is called Tenzin Chozin, the other is called Lobsang Chodrak. Before the murder, the principal received threatening letters from the Shugden association.”

    All I can say is that don’t be fooled by Shugden followers they are meant for disturbing Tibetans cause for independence and truth will be revealed when Tibet get its freedom and so does their tie ends with Chinese. Please people think how can Shugden followers can go abroad without help from Tibetan government regarding documents and passport related issues if Tibetan government is restricted them or otherwise you will know from where they can get VISA, if you people are smart enough.

    • Pastor Shin on Jan 14, 2016 at 9:46 pm

      Dear Geleck Gyaltsen,
      Thank you for sharing your thoughts here and taking your time to explain your experience.

      1. His Holiness did not receive the sogtae (life entrustment) so he doesn’t break his vows or commitment when he stop the practice. Many monks and lay people have received this commitment from their teachers (including from His Holiness’ tutor, Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche himself) and there is no way to ‘give back’ the practice, even if they wanted to in order to ‘follow the advice of His Holiness’. It is also not right for His Holiness to override the instructions other people have received from their teachers. They respect His Holiness, but they also cannot disrespect the instructions from their teachers.

      Dorje Shugden has not destroyed anything in my life nor people whom I knew are practising Dorje Shugden. In fact, through the years I have seen how Dorje Shugden saved many people’s lives, guided many to progress on the spiritual path, and had never asked anything from us except for us to improve our mind and our practice. One example of his advice to us is published here:

      2. If like what you said, His Holiness has the right to say to his subjects/followers, so he should only impose the ban among those WHO CHOOSE TO FOLLOW HIM, or among those who wants to be his subjects/followers. Why does a Malaysian (and people of other nationalities, or living in other countries) like me have to suffer what His Holiness wish to impose on his subjects/ followers? Perhaps it should be announced that ONLY the followers of the Dalai Lama cannot practice Dorje Shugden and others have the freedom to do so, and not be given unfair treatment if they do so.

      3. Let’s just use this as an example to illustrated. For example, let’s say the Tibetan public said that if you believe in Rangzen, then you are against His Holiness and you have to build your own hospital, your own school, your own settlement and camp, which you can. Then will you still ask “why fuss about secular rights”? Just because someone disagree with what was imposed doesn’t mean they have to be persecuted and disciminated of their rights as a member of the society. That is not the way of a democratic society, which CTA claims to be.

      4. You have never heard of people physically abusing Shugden or Dolgyal followers, doesn’t mean they didn’t happen. Even in Malaysia, there are groups who publicly made announcement and encourage others to discriminate Dorje Shugden practitioners. Many foreign media have reported with proof how Dorje Shugden practitioners are discriminated and harmed around the world. You can see plenty of these videos on YouTube.

      5. Shugden followers are not interested in disturbing Tibetans cause for independence. They are interested in not being discriminated and persecuted by their own (Tibetan) people. Already being a refugee in foreign lands is hard, it is worse when your own people put you down. By the way, Samdhong Rinpoche has said that “Tibetans advocating independence or calling for genuine democracy in exile society were more dangerous than the Chinese Communists.” So perhaps, the CTA should really focus on the “cause for independence” and come to a conclusion, having dialogue with the supporters of Rangzen and Umaylam, instead of distracting the Tibetans in Exile with issues like Shugden practice, to cover up the real issue of not being able to unite the Tibetans and make progress in the matter of Tibetan independence.

      • Tsem Rinpoche on Jan 14, 2016 at 10:58 pm

        I like the discussion between Geleck Gyaltsen and Pastor Shin. Polite, civilized and just sharing. Our thoughts can be different, but we still need to respect each other.

  8. Chris Chong on Jan 9, 2016 at 11:56 pm

    I truly hope that the people of Dalai Lama can meet up with Dorje Shugden poeple to discuss a way to reconcile this issue peacefully and without any violence.

    This ban itself is illogical on so many ways and it is not doing any good except creating segregation, discrimination, violence and unhappiness. Innocent people are harmed and treated unfairly for no reason. This has to stop. Religion is suppose to promote peace, unity and happiness. The ban is creating just the opposite.


  9. Julia Tan on Jan 9, 2016 at 1:28 am

    I am very grateful that H.E.The 25th Tsem Tulku Rinpoche speaks about this issue again.

    Dorje Shugden is a Tibetan Protector; arise to protect Lama Tsongkhapa Lineage since the 5th Dalai Lama time. Everybody happily practicing Dorje Shugden and depend on him to clear obstacles for their spiritual practice. There were no political issues, no controversy and whatsoever to pratice Dorje Shugden. From the 5th Dalai Lama until the recent H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama himself was one of the practioners just like all of us.

    Sadly, the ban started by H.H. The Dalai Lama himself. He cut off is relationship with his Guru and Dorje Shugden, acusing Dorje Shugden is a demon and it’s harmful to practice, harmful His life if practiced, which is totally ILOGICAL. Next He abused His power as a spitritual head of Tibet to expell monks that refused to abandon Dorje Shugden practice, hence many monks became homeless.

    I respect and solute to those who continue to hold their vows and samaya with their gurus. They are the Heros who believe in Buddha’s teachings depite all the sufferings and discrimation they need to face. Many gave up due to discrimination among the community. They are forced to drop the practice so that can be retreated equally in the hopital when they are sick and their children are allowed to go to school.

    Here, our kids go to school without looking at their race and religion

    H.H. The 14th Dalai Lama, please lift the ban to END sufferings, END discrimation, END controvecy, REbuild Tibet is just at your finger tips. You have a choice to be kind to all the Dorje Dhugden practitioners.

  10. laudnon on Jan 7, 2016 at 9:02 pm
  11. Tsem Rinpoche on Jan 7, 2016 at 5:03 am

    Thank you for having the strength, courage and genuine care to stand up and speak peacefully for what you believe in. No one should ever suffer, be segregated, assaulted, hurt, degraded, belittled, cursed, hated and biased for their religious beliefs. No one should advise anyone against any religious belief. If we want to find people who hate a certain religion, we can find plenty. If we want to find people who like a certain religion or form of spirituality, there will be plenty. In the end who is right and wrong? Which religion is right or wrong. All or some or none? Therefore it is more logical to respect all religions, all faiths and all forms of spirituality. In history many have exploited religion for selfish purposes and many have not. As long as I have not, that is all that matters. I cannot and will not speak for others of my faith and what their motive is, but I know my motive. No one and no leader and no religious leader should ever hurt, segregate or speak against another religion. Time for peace. Time for harmony. Time for respect. Time to look beyond mine/your religion and be kind. Be kind to everyone. Never put anyone down because of their religion.


    Tsem Rinpoche.

    P.S. I wish very much the people from His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s views/side and people from the side of Dorje Shugden practitioners meet very soon. May they meet in peace, with kindness in the hearts and good motivation to solve this issue once and for all. We have to solve this through peaceful dialogue. I never protested against His Holiness Dalai Lama nor spoke harshly against his views ever. I have always respected his and everyone’s views. We all have to live on this earth together. You will not accept my way of spirituality and I will not accept your’s and that is okay. But we must respect each other’s spiritual faith and NEVER criticize or advise against it. We must respect also what we don’t accept. Everyone has their way. Advising against another’s religion/faith/spirituality creates so much disharmony. No more disharmony. It’s been 19 years since the ban against Dorje Shugden started. It must end please. We have so many things to argue about in this world, let’s make one less conflict. I wish this conflict to end peacefully soon. I wish His Holiness the Dalai Lama and supporters can open channels of communication and solve this issue soon. Peaceful dialogue please and soon. Thank you.


  12. Jace Chong on Jan 5, 2016 at 2:53 pm

    Thanks Rinpoche and Pastor Jean Ai for a clear and informative article on the issue of Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden’s ban.

    The article pin points many illogical facts of the ban, that it makes the main practice of Guru Devotion in Tibetan Buddhism questionable to the point that an incarnation of Dalai Lama can wipe it all, and he can define what’s right and what’s wrong in Buddhism.

    I do not think so too. I believe in Guru Devotion leads practitioner to enlightenment as many historical facts told us so. Since Dalai Lama is not the root Guru to all Tibetans or Tibetan Buddhist or Buddhist practitioners, he should accept otherwise.

    This issue has put a lot of people in sufferings by being suppressed, marginalised and ostracised as a result of their faith, this has no reason to continue anymore. May Dalai Lama lift this illogical Dorje Shugden’s ban, to restore peace and harmony in Tibetan community as well as the world.

    Thanks Rinpoche for sharing this.

  13. Frederick Law on Jan 5, 2016 at 9:42 am

    For 20 years Dorje Shugden practitioners had become target of discrimination, hate campaign and being attacked on regular basis, even to the extend being bodily harmed by no Pro-Dalai lama practitioners.
    in 1996 His Holiness The 14th Dalai Lama imposes ban on Dorje Shugden practitioners, to the extent of His speech directing monasteries to expel Dorje Shugden monks who continue Dorje Shugden practice. In the video we can see the inconsistency of His Holiness speech, no definitive stance on Dorje Shugden issue. At one event His Holiness mentioned that it is up to the people choice whether to follow his advice or not in practicing Dorje Shugden.

    And since it is a choice, why does the Tibetan Leadership taking it out of proportion and impose ban, segregation, putting up name of Dorje Shugden practitioner and criminalizing them, being publish in hit list and attacked? What harm has Dorje Shugden practitioner done to His Holiness, or the Tibetan Community?

    Dorje Shugden has never harm Tibet nor His Holiness. Lies after lies has been thrown at Dorje Shugden practitioners, the Tibetan Leadership twisting and turning facts, covering lies after lies after being expose, and exhorted to link politically that Dorje Shugden practitioners is in cahoots with China. If one is to research into Dorje Shugden issue, you will see why the Tibetan Leadership is not trust-able.

  14. Nicholas Yu on Jan 4, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    The evident of the ban from HH the 14th Dalai Lama is in the video and there is no longer the question of whether there is a ban. From the ban it has created so much suffering for so many people not only within the Tibetan community but the segregation and discrimination through out the world. Anyone who is practicing Dorje Shugden will face harmful threat , unfair treatment by the Tibetan leaders, discrimination, segregation and so on.

    The entire ban is non-spiritual act and it does not show any benefit for spiritual reasoning. It only show clearly that the action of banning Dorje Sugden practice is not in line with the 50 Stanzas Of Guru Devotion by Avagosha. The entire act is disparaging our Guru and this is already the biggest No No in our spiritual practice. How can we gain attainment by disrespecting our Guru and how can we gain attainment by saying our Guru is wrong and what we learn is from our Guru… it doesn’t make sense at all.

    This is the issue when spiritual becoming part of political agenda and the spiritual aspect have been neglected. I respect HH the 14th Dalai Lama but I will not agree with the ban as we see more suffering. There is nothing right or wrong about spiritual belief but what matter is showing respect for others preferences. If the Tibetan leaders want freedom first respect freedom and give freedom for your own people. No point keep asking for freedom but in the other hand discriminating your own people belief.

  15. Pastor Han Nee on Jan 4, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    There is no doubt whatsoever that The Dalai Lama has imposed a ban on the practice of Shugden. In the video, he clearly instructs that monks who refuse to obey and give up their practice of Shugden should be expelled. The Dalai Lama further says that he will never revoke the ban. It will be like the Cultural Revolution.

    What is most distressing to note is that even though there is clear and undeniable evidence in the second video that violence is being inflicted on Dokhang Khangsten monks in the midst of their peaceful prayers , violence by a mob organised by a representative of the Dalai Lama (with rocks and bricks being hurled at these poor monks), yet the Dalai Lama says, ” Nobody harming. I think rumour.From this side(there is) no record of violence”!

    The unkindest and most distorted comment made against Dokhang Khangsten monks was to put the cart before the horse, by saying that they had gone and set up their own Shugden monastery in wilful defiance of the Dalai Lama, when it was their being expelled from their monastery and their being violently persecuted that forced them to set up their own Shugden monastery.

    The pain and suffering caused by the ban is against the basic Buddhist principles of compassion. May the ban be lifted and may all be free to practice Shugden or whatever religion they choose.

  16. Uncle Eddie on Jan 4, 2016 at 8:00 pm

    By alledging that all his previous gurus are wrong and that he is correct to impose such an “unethical Ban” against Dorje Shugden, it is definetely sure that His Holiness, The Dalai Lama, knows that he is breaking an ancient, yet still relevant, Buddhist tantric code of never showing disrespect to all his Gurus. Not only this, as has been clearly pointed out by Rinpoche, that would also be constituting to be belittling his Tantric masters too! As a product of an unbroken lineage extending back to the historical Buddha, his more than than 40 over years as a spiritual teacher and a brillant scholar, his words, thinking and experiences have gone far beyond his academics. Rooted in a life, tried and tested, everyone knows he lives a life dedicated to peace, altruism, and compassion.
    His Holiness should practice what he preaches and practices! Yet, why didn’t he speak up, or, please on our bended knees, we beg His Holiness, The Dalai Lama to extend us a peaceful solution to release this ban against Dorje Shugden soon for the benefit of all the suffering beings. Om Mani Padme Hung.

  17. Vinnie Tan on Jan 4, 2016 at 3:08 pm

    Through the videos, it shows clearly all the evidence that shows that there is a ban towards Dorje Shudgen practice, and practitioners are being ostracised due to the choice of practice.

    Like what Rinpoche has written above, it is true that the countries that have a firm stance in their people’s hearts are the countries that treat their citizens all the same be it if they like their government or not, the government will treat them equally as their are their people. If the government does not treat and care for their citizens, then who will care for them? What is the point to “belong” to a community that does not give them the basic needs like security?

    How can a government support a protest/mob to be hurting people of their own countries more so in the case monks. The people of religious figure. One area that the Tibetans are proud of is their culture and the religion of “Tibetan Buddhism”, with their government asking the Tibetans to harm/hurt the monks, what does this show the external community? It just shows that they do not care for what they claim to care about. The government only cares for the fame and authority that they receive as being the ministers of the “country”.

    What is even more intolerable is that they impose a fine on the citizens that do not join the protest/mob. If this is also considered as religious freedom or being democratic, I no longer know what is considered as democracy or being communist.

    The CTA judge and say that the Chinese government is communist and controlling. However, based on evidence, they are too doing the same thing. They are not democratic at all. They give no freedom of religion, they are splitting their own people by differentiating the kind of religious practice they are able to do. This is not what a government should be doing, they should be uniting all Tibetans so that they will one day be able to get their country once again. Proving that they are able to take care of the community like they wish to portray now.

    It is just so sad to see all these evidence that there is indeed a ban on Dorje Shugden practice, yet so many Tibetans do not understand it and still say that it is a choice. Only if they are able to understand what is going on and not be trapped in their own thinking that what they do of threats and vulgarities is alright and is correct because they are supporting what their government is saying.

  18. Tempa on Jan 4, 2016 at 1:56 pm

    Ah! But why is Dorje Shugden such a ‘threat,’ to the establishments & or is it possibly in-competition with “occult” (hidden)practitioners of Lucifer, the global elites.
    New World Order, One World Government, One World Religion (Luciferian) was officially ushered-in in Sept, 2015 at Blood -Moon via the pope of Vatican of Rome, the seat of global powers.

    “No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a LUCIFERIAN Initiation.” (David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations)

  19. Tsem Rinpoche on Jan 4, 2016 at 8:03 am

    His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama composed this prayer to Dorje Shugden. His Holiness has full clairvoyance and knowledge of the nature of the deity he composed the prayer to when he was younger and when he is older as it is the same mind stream. So not logical His Holiness can make a mistake? If he can make mistakes about deities, then the mistakes cannot be limited to time span:

    • Tempa on Jan 4, 2016 at 9:12 pm

      Tsem Rinpoche La, Regardless of one’s status in life we cannot avoid a law in Universe, “what goes around, comes around” or Karma, meaning what one does to others,will come back to you, sooner or later, UN-avoidable, for HH the 14th Dalai Lama. Just as Tibetan Monks practice & invoke good things for all sentient beings, others (?), practice completely the opposites, for control & power, It’s been in their culture & traditions for generations. The “ban” on Dorje Shugden is “logical” via ‘powers-that-be’ because it totally conflicts with their practice or belief, in Luciferian worship. But, the Rabbit hole goes much,much deeper for those inquisitive & open-mind to see.

  20. Chris Chong on Jan 4, 2016 at 3:37 am

    How could an advice can escalate into violence, discrimination and even segregation? The so called “advice” on Dorje Shugden practice is obviously a ban. This ban had struck the Tibetan community hard, especially the ordained community. Dorje Shugden practitioners are being treated unwell and harshly. The video of the monastery being attacked by fellow monks and tibetan is the perfect evidence of how bad the ban had effected the community. How can someone even think of violently harming a monk who is peaceful and wish to serve all sentient beings? That makes no sense at all.

    H.H Dalai Lama had mentioned that his guru and all the high lama that practice Dorje Shugden is wrong. How is that possible? If they are wrong, all the other high lamas could be wrong and that include the Dalai Lama himself. How can he condemn all the other high lamas and even his own Gurus?

    I sincerely hope that the Dalai Lama will remove the ban on Dorje Shugden. It had cause tremendous suffering on lots of harmless and peaceful people who only want good for the world.


  21. veritas on Jan 4, 2016 at 3:22 am

    Buddhists preach karma, until they are forced to face their own, and at that point, if the ripening ​happens to be ugly, they do as everyone else does: blame others instead of looking inside at the “monstrous demon of self-cherishing”.

    If ​we truly believed in our own cherished teachings, ​we would be applying them to ourselves​ in every second of this crisis. Instead, ​we further the deadly game of blame and dissension, and try to win followers to ​”​our side”. What could be more ignorant? The incomparable Arya Nagarjuna said: “he who takes a stand falls.”

    Where are the Three Jewels in all of this? Most non-Tibetan Tibetan Buddhists I know got involved in the teachings because they were genuinely inspired by the Three Jewels and the teachings on wisdom and bodhicitta as embodied in exceptionally attained and beautifully behaved masters entirely worthy of emulation and devotion.

    ​This crisis ​has ​force​d​ people to​ dig deep, to​ research and expose the flagrant and ongoing inconsistencies in the toxic​ and non-Dharmic​ rhetoric pervading this issue. ​Would the Buddha recognize the application of any of his teachings in the endless back and forth? How did the Buddha effect social change in his time?

    As far as I am aware, he did it through the teaching of the Eightfold Noble Path, which we have gotten far far away from. Over the centuries, wonderful traditions evolved in the form of the Mahayana and the Vajrayana, in response to the cool remove of the non-Mahayana Arhat’s status that appeared to distance itself, dispassionately, from pressing social issues that called upon us to act in the here and now. In this regard I admire the social action to which large numbers of Christians commit themselves through acts of alarming self-sacrifice, love and generosity, rarely evidenced in contemporary Buddhist circles to a comparable degree. I truly admire HE Tsem Rinpoche’s commitment to and emphasis on such social action.

    But as soon as the bodhicitta-inspired traditions got divorced from the foundational teaching of the eightfold noble path and became motivated by power, they ceased to be Buddhist, just as the authentic Jesus teachings withered amidst gargantuan and insidious Vatican power politics. (Let’s hear it for Pope Francis, who rejects all the trappings of the power thirsty; and who is authentically, personally an embodiment of Christic love and compassion especially toward the marginalized, instead of waving his hand from comfortable distance).

    Many of those blogging on the protector crisis know little or nothing about Tibetan history. If they knew, they would run screaming to the hills and the honeymoon with Tibetan Buddhism would be over. Only those with access to the truth while also being fully attained would be in a position to correctly transmit the authentic, precious, liberative teachings. Those who do know the history and prevent others from knowing, or do not now make the necessary adjustments that past mistakes highlighted, are truly unconscionable in their dissimulation and rewriting of history.

    The question such bloggers should be asking, since they are mostly uninterested in the practice of the Buddha’s Four Foundations of Mindfulness, is why? Why does each side hold its perspective? What are the specific reasons given? What is being protected? What is being eliminated? What is being created? What destroyed? Can we even know any of that? If not, then who do we trust when the ones we sought refuge from appear not to get along, and require us to take their side, and our better judgment tells us that taking sides is not an option, particularly when it involves “attained masters?”

    What would Buddha say? Does anyone even care what Buddha would say? Or has the Lama supplanted the Buddha? When does the Lama supplant the Buddha? How does that work? If the Lama is higher than the Buddha as an object of refuge, if the Protector is held as higher than Buddha as an object of refuge, then is it Buddha Dharma that is being practiced? How do we know that? How is that established?

    The foundation is missing and we wonder why there’s a crisis in contemporary Tibetan Buddhism. The traditions ​that the Tibetans have​ worked so hard to maintain will be destroyed from within, not from without.

    Thinking, spiritually astute, compassionate people don’t like to be bullied into having faith in crazy-making beliefs​, no matter how exalted. Such people know that certainty in any form, though providing much inspiration and a blissy feeling of endlessly being on top of the world, is a precursor to the inevitable uncertainty required for actual personal spiritual evolution and growth. ​Devotion is not the same as allegiance. Make no mistake.

    As one rabbi said: beliefs are for those who have no faith.

    The Buddha’s primary object of devotion was the truth, which he found nowhere in the prevailing and competing beliefs and dogmas of his time. He had plenty of teachers he had remarkable devotion to, but none displaced his fundamental and uncompromising search for the truth. Our devotion to a Lama should not preclude our devotion to the truth at whatever level we are able to access it via our direct experience. If our devotion to a Lama does preclude our commitment to the truth, expect to be endlessly embattled internally, as creating spin after spin, trying to convince ourself and seek validation from others, win people for our team, will always move us away from the hard inner work required for true freedom.

    If devotion to a Lama requires subordinating our commitment to the truth or to taking the Lama’s or other disciples’ “side”, we need to keep looking for a worthy object of our precious devotion. Otherwise, we are perpetually breaking our basic Buddhist vow of not lying (to ourself and others).

    • Paul on Jan 20, 2016 at 11:13 am

      Thank you so very much Veritas. My head was going up and down, reading through these blogs and comments, thinking over what to type, until your message cut right through it all like a true diamond. I can sleep gently now.

    • Pastor Han Nee on May 26, 2016 at 9:08 am

      Thank you Veritas for elucidating here so very clearly how as Buddhists, we must adhere unwaveringly to the Truth as Lord Buddha taught over 2500 years ago in all our actions of body, speech and mind. Yes, devotion to the truth, as Lord Buddha taught, must be preserved and shared and spread to all. Tsem Rinpoche, in all his teachings, has never deviated, even for a single instant, from presenting this truth. In all his actions, he is the embodiment of this devotion to the truth – his integrity in consistently holding his vows, a universal compassion for all beings –humans and non-humans, tolerance , giving, patience, wisdom.
      This ban on the practice of Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden is needless and unethical. It is a ban imposed by a spiritual leader, HH the Dalai Lama, on a practice, which had helped 400 years’ of highly attained teachers, especially in clearing obstacles to their spreading of the BuddhaDharma. Furthermore, this was a practice, which the Dalai Lama himself had practised(and even composed a prayer for) and then declared a mistake!.
      Every Buddhist is committed to work for the removal of suffering and the causes of suffering of not only themselves ,but others. There are millions of Shugden practitioners and thousands of great teachers, who are Buddhists and practicing the Dharma, with the help of this divine Protector, and committed to the spread and growth of Dharma. All, especially those living in India and under the Tibetan leadership in exile, have suffered greatly from the forced segregation and persecution of Shugden practitioners, following the Shugden ban. Shugden teachers have been defamed and abused atrociously online and on the ground. Teachers, whose sole purpose is to spread the BuddhaDharma and guide their students in their Dharma practice to achieve liberation from suffering and ultimate peace and Enlightenment, now find their names tarnished; and this threatens their essential role of spreading the Dharma and guiding their students.
      (For a clear understanding about the essential role of a Guru and the importance of Guru Devotion for a Dharma, practitioner, please take a look at this article : “A Review of Gurus for Hire Enlightenment for Sale “ at . If you can, do read the book itself. Thank you.)
      These teachers or Lamas were given the practice of Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden by their Root Gurus and they cannot break their commitment at all cost, because it means breaking samaya or the clean bond with their Root Guru. This samaya or clean bond with one’s Root Guru is what makes the unbroken transmission of Buddha’s teachings from Teacher to Student work. That is why, Tibetan Buddhism , through its lineages, is able to keep intact all of Buddha’s teachings (at its ‘provisional’ and ‘ultimate’ level.).
      To understand why a Dharma Protector is important in ‘protecting’ the Dharma practitioner and helping countless people clear their obstacles, do have a look at this article

      Thank you once more Veritas. May you be well and happy always.

  22. JP on Jan 4, 2016 at 1:45 am

    Below are 2 statements that stood out for me and make a lot of sense.

    1) “The issue is not whether there is a ban or not. The real issue is whether people have the religious freedom to select whatever faith they wish. People’s faiths should be a personal matter and choice, and not one that is selected, dictated or governed by the state.”

    2) “In Tibetan society, if you practise Dorje Shugden, you are not treated equally. If you practise Dorje Shugden, you must still support the Tibetan cause. You must still respect the leadership even though the leadership are the ones isolating you because of your choice of faith. So where is the incentive for Dorje Shugden practitioners to assimilate into Tibetan society? How do we assimilate when the Tibetan leadership does not allow it due to our religious choice of practising Dorje Shugden?”

    The first point is a right that we all should have because religion is a personal choice. The government should never intervene and treat their people differently based on their religious choice. Imagine if the US removed all rights to medical, education and food for those who are not Christians because the church states that other religions are satanic worship and are detrimental to the well being of the people. If this sounds wrong on all levels, then it is the same for banning Dorje Shugden.

    The second point highlights how illogical the Tibetan government. The government is so concerned about sectarianism amongst their people but ironically, they are the ones who are creating disharmony and segregating their own people.

    So based on the above 2 points, it is clear that the Tibetan government carrying out the ban instilled by the Dalai Lama by ostracizing their own people, are not concerned of their people’s welfare but more for their own personal agendas. This is because getting the Dalai Lama’s approval and acceptance has many benefits that will help them achieve their personal agendas.

  23. Sarah on Jan 3, 2016 at 10:01 pm

    In the 21st century, there is no place for discrimination against any individual or group with regard to the right to worship. For Shugden practitioners who have been discriminated against, the suffering is very real. The onus is on the Tibetan authorities to relieve the suffering of their own people by compassionately ending this unkind and unlawful ban which has lasted for almost 20 years!. I hope this will happen very soon. No one should live in fear of discrimination on grounds of religion.

  24. Cynthia Ng on Jan 3, 2016 at 8:06 pm


    在视屏中的证据清楚的看到至尊的达赖喇嘛是在撒谎和容许禁令事件发生,这不是一个建议停止多杰雄登的持修法门而是一个命令。这一个命令/ 不公平的禁令,让太多的小孩不能上学,他们也被视为贱民,禁止雄登持修者进入杂货店购买食品和其他必需品,他们也禁止到医院寻求医疗,被逼和家人朋友隔离,那是公平对待吗???



    21世纪的现在所有宗教提倡宗教以及信仰的自由,这一个禁令导致失去了尊重,导致言语和肢体暴力。 我们应该最起码,紧急制止从禁令导致人权的歧视,抑制和破坏多杰雄登持修者。


  25. KB Thapa on Jan 3, 2016 at 7:44 pm

    This is 100% Proof what other Evidence people want. If the Holiness can say in public throw them out from monasteries what that means to .. If DS practitioners out from monasteries where they should go , they have no country and Tibetan community will not allow them stay near them.. Where is compassion and kindness they have been preaching all the time..

    Dorje Shugden practitioners are feeling immense sorrow at this time. They have hurt no one. They have done nothing wrong. They are not interested in politics. They are peaceful Buddhist practitioners, lay and ordained, dedicated to helping all living beings find a deep inner peace and happiness.

    They have no wish to harm the Dalai Lama at all. All they want is the freedom to continue practicing the compassion, love and wisdom of the Buddhist tradition of Je Tsongkhapa and to rely upon Dorje Shugden as the Wisdom Buddha Protector of that tradition. They want to do this while remaining regular and even valued members of their society, without segregation or persecution. I Hope Holiness re consider his decision and allow people have religious freedom…

  26. Joy on Jan 3, 2016 at 7:22 pm

    I hope this post will shed more light to the world what is truly going on with Tibetans. Tibetans are literally “killing” Tibetans in this way, through this ban. What I mean by “killing” is the Dorje Shugden ban, the discrimination, the stigmatization, the division, and disharmony, being ostracised, condemned, cursed, shunned, kicked out from their home/monasteries and some even violently abused.

    This is a huge known fact otherwise why publish list of Tibetans names and pictures and even their home addresses? What kind of democratic government would incite this kind of targeted hate/violence towards their own Tibetans? Yet they accuse Dorje Shuugden Tibetans as traitor and for going to China? Well there sure is more freedom of religion in China then there is given by the Tibetan leaders here.

    It is high time the Tibetan leaders take some responsibility instead of always saying Dorje Shugden Tibetans are backed by China or whatever without evidence to their claims. They need to own up that they are the one who started all this segregation in the first place. Before the Dalai Lama announced the ban, everything was peaceful, and everyone was friendly and harmonious, like how a real Buddhist nation should be. Now not only are they ripping Tibetans apart causing disunity, they are also shaming Buddhism as a whole because as a Buddhist nation, they are sure not acting very Buddhist which bring the world to question everything the Dalai Lama has preached? WHY is it NOT APPLIED? Where is the compassion, religious tolerance, interconnectedness, compassion, understanding and peaceful dialogue for Shugden people? Why can the Dalai Lama teach all this yet do not apply it on to Shugden people? Why such huge double standards?

    Yes it is true in any democratic leadership, no matter what the leaders must be fair, treat everyone equally and respect all despite race, creed nor religious differences. It is very obvious that the Tibetan leaders are not democratic and contradicts their own democratic constitution.

    What puzzles me the most is that the Tibetan leadership wishes for all Tibetans to unite and stand firm against their so called enemy “China” but yet they throw in this bad against their own people, cause disunity and allow China to use this ban against them! It is so ironic and so ridiculous, it makes one wonder… is this the level of intelligence the Tibetan leadership are made of and we’re dealing with? The smart move would be to declare religious freedom and lift the ban on Dorje Shugden (like what China just did). Now with China declairing religious freedom and right to all citizens, it makes the Tibetan leaders look like their the ones who is breaching human rights which they totally are from this injustice, unethical ban! And isn’t this considered illegal in democratic mother India where the Tibetans are under?

    May the ban on Dorje Shugden be lifted soon, may every single human being on this planet have their human right and freedom of choice in their religious beliefs and everyone be treated FAIRLY. Hence this issue is everyone’s business because it is breaks our human rights!

    As what Martin Luther King once said…




    • Tsem Rinpoche on Jan 3, 2016 at 9:29 pm

      Dear Joy, Very nice pictures. This extra step in finding these spiritual pictures really added to your comments and enhanced my reading of your thoughts. Thank you. Tsem Rinpoche

  27. Pastor Tat Ming on Jan 3, 2016 at 6:49 pm

    It is very clear and beyond any doubt, from the evidences and explanations provided in this article that there is a ban on Dorje Shugden.

    It is not an advice to stop the Dorje Shugden practice but an order, a directive from His Holiness Dalai Lama(DL) Himself. His Holiness could not provide any valid and logical reasons for this ban todate. DL is totally acting against His teachers, the established lineage practices and the fundamental practices of Buddhism which advocates compassion, equality and acceptance of all beings. DL totally contravene the guru devotional practices that is fundamental to one’s attainments in the tantric path. DL does not give recognise the religious freedom and human rights as accorded to all Tibetans in exile by their Constitution.

    The damage done due to the ban is far-reaching. Any imaginable word to describe sufferings arising from the ban had been used. For two decades, Dorje Shugden followers are suffering all over the effects of the ban. Tibetan Buddhism’s image is greatly tarnished. Instead of spreading the incomparable Dharma teachings, the ban has caused so much confusion among its followers and potential Tibetan Buddhists. Many of the so-called pro-Dalai Lama followers had acted in negative ways so unbecoming of a Tibetan Buddhist let alone a decent human being when they attacked ignorantly the Dorje Shugden practices, Dorje Shugden Lamas and followers. Tibetans risk losing their rich and beautiful culture in the future if they allowed this ignorant group to have their negative ways.

    Much time, resources and opportunities had been wasted in the efforts to enforce the ban and the efforts by Dorje Shugden followers to lift the ban for the last two decades. So many positive things to develop and improve the lives of the Tibetans in exile and the spread of the incomparable Tsongkhapa and Dorje Shugden teachings could have been accomplished if not for the ban!

    Tibetans had lost Tibet. To add salt to their wounds, Tibetans had further lost the freedom of religious practice and human rights due to the ban. Tibetans had also lost the harmony among themselves. There is now a great divide between the Tibetan communites.

    If DL is the embassador of peace, a Nobel Laureate, an emanation of Buddha of Compassion, a monk, why is DL so persistent in enforcing the ban on Dorje Shugden knowing very well that all His actions are illogical and not acceptable at all?

    The 400-year and precious practices of Dorje Shugden could be destroyed if not for the faithful followers of Dorje Shugden who uphold and protect it at the cost of their lives.

    What is bewildering is only DL is right and all His teachers are wrong. Everything else, the established lineage practices, the Constitutional rights of Tibetans, etc are wrong! This defies logic and comprehension.

    How could this ban be continued in this age because DL said Dorje Shugden practices should be banned? We are now living in the 21st century, where many countries are advocating democracy. But DL’s is totally undemocratic! One person alone (against so many Tibetans) forcefully decided the destiny of the Tibetans!

    At the end of the day, Tibetans had to take personal responsibilities of their lives. This human life is precious and rare. It is even rarer to have found Dorje Shugden practices. Are Tibetans willing to forgo this golden opportunity to practise Dorje Shugden? In this kaliyuga age, Dorje Shugden has specially manifested out of His compassion to help sentient beings to liberate themselves from sufferings and eventual enlightenment.

    Only DL knows precisely why he had initiated the ban on Dorje Shugden. And the world awaits the lifting of the ban on Dorje Shugden as it has caused nothing but harm to others.

    Please lift the ban on Dorje Shugden immediately, His Holiness Dalai Lama.

    Pastor Tat Ming

  28. Edward Ooi on Jan 3, 2016 at 6:16 pm

    Not only did the Dalai Lama himself not follow the practice given to him by his Gurus but he even went as far as banning the practice. If the Dalai Lama does not like Dorje Shugden or believes that Dorje Shugden is a spirit, It is up to The Dalai Lama himself whether he wants to practice it or not, but is it actually okay to ban all the Tibetans from practicing Dorje Shugden? There is no way that in the 400 years of history, the highly attained Lamas who practiced Dorje Shugden that not a single one of them realized that Dorje Shugden is a spirit. High lamas are known for their powers like clairvoyance would have realized it a long time ago, but why didn’t anyone one of them speak up? Is it because Dorje Shugden is actually not a spirit but a real enlightened Dharma Protector?

    How is this an advice to the Tibetans? If it is an advice, there shouldn’t be anyone being dispelled from their monastery, being thrown with rocks and bricks. What about the innocent children who are just born into a Dorje Shugden practitioner’s family? Should they deserve not being able to go to school just because their parents are Dorje Shugden practitioners? The sick are not allowed to go to the hospital, then where are they supposed to go? If Buddhism is truly about being loving, caring and compassionate to all sentient beings, then what about them? Aren’t they sentient beings too?

    Why did the Dalai Lama deny that no one was hurt when asked by the reporter yet he allows His students to be aggressive and violent towards Dorje Shugden practitioners. The reporter told the Dalai Lama that he has seen that there were violence towards the Dorje Shugden practitioners yet the Dalai Lama said that they are just rumors? Why is he being all caring and compassionate to everyone but when it come to Dorje Shugden practitioners, He becomes a total opposite person.

    I would conclude that the Dalai Lama is wrong, since he said that his guru and other high lamas who practiced Dorje Shugden were wrong.

  29. Sofi on Jan 3, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    After reading this blog post, I went on to read the comments posted and as I read Jason King’s comments, I was like “Oh Wow! He has my thoughts especially the Crazy Wisdom part.” I too, had been wondering if the confusion created by HHDL was due to the hidden wisdom. Even so, hasn’t the suffering gone on for too long? As Rinpoche says, respect and equal treatment should be given to all Tibetan Buddhists irregardless of their private practises. A big country like China can respect religious freedom, then why can’t HHDL and his government?
    Thank you Rinpoche for your continuous hard work and compassion to disseminate the truth. I rejoice for those who does not have a voice to stand up to the discrimination and pray for those who indulge in their ignorance by hurling their abuse and threats at you. May HHDL hear our plea and manifest his true nature of compassion to start a dialogue or to immediately lift the ban.

  30. Pastor Antoinette Kass on Jan 3, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    The ban on Dorje Shugden is very clear. An advice is very different. You don’t loose your home and your basic human rights through an advice. This ban is since 19 years already and I myself was shocked when I first heart about it. I could not associate the Dalai Lama with what is happening to the Dorje Shugden practitioners.

    The video in 2000 is really scary and it is for me hard to understand how my religious practice given to me by my spiritual guide can create such a response. I cannot imagine the pain and persecution the Dorje Shugden practitioners had and have to go through.

    To openly say that my own teacher is wrong equals like saying I myself can be wrong. As explained in the very detailed and clear article, especially in Tibetan Buddhism with the 50 Stanzas of Guru Devotion, the teacher / student relationship is the most important. To go against your Guru and say he is wrong shows that there is something completely untrue and against all Buddhist practice.

    I wish from the depth of my heart that this ban stops as soon as possible and no further harm is done. May H.H. the Dalai Lama give us religious freedom and free the Dorje Shugden practitioners all over the world.

    With folded hands,
    Pastor Antoinette Kass

  31. Wan Wai Meng on Jan 3, 2016 at 3:46 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for giving us more things to think about and also recall that this ban and problem within the Tibetan community had a cause and had a start. It wasn’t something creating by Dorje Shugden people and practitioners, it was kickstarted by the 14th Dalai Lama.

    20 years on on social media, Dorje Shugden people who were not the initiator of this spiritual disharmony and division amongst Tibetans and others, most would like to think and comment it is the Dorje Shugden community who started it all. CTA and Dalai Lama may it is all semantics, there is no ban, but there is certainly something out of the ordinary abound.

    Monks do not leave their mother monastery just because of trivial matters, everytime leave the monastery for even a short time they do need to update and let their teacher and administrators know. It is no trivial matter, as monks who have spent their entire life leaves the monastery, there have no other support from their families due to them being ordained and such, they have cut all families ties, so if they leave the monastery it is quite a struggle, I have met an old blind monk who insisted in continuing on Dorje Shugden practice, he was abandoned by all his students, he developed blindness due to lack of care. Hence places like Serpom and Shar Gaden arose to take care of those monks who did not have a home. Still nothing happened due to the non-existent ban?

    If Dorje Shugden lamas and organisations did get help from the China, it is not because they are greedy and ignorant, but by being surrounded by hostile forces within their own community, If there are parties who want to help them, who are they to refuse such assistance. Things got so bad that ex Sera Monks got help from HH Penor Rinpoche, a high lama of Nyingma, who is a buddha, can a Buddha be mistaken and help terrorists to do more terror on others?

    If CTA and the Dalai Lama wants united Tibetans, please start healing the rift due to the dorje Shugden ban. Tibetans who are not split anymore, who knows what they can achieve with one heart and mind.

    • wooishen on Jan 3, 2016 at 8:15 pm

      HHDL and CTA where is the human right???
      i didn’t any big pic n big plan????

  32. Li Kheng on Jan 3, 2016 at 12:17 pm

    The actions of HH the 14th Dalai Lama is captured on video. Everyone and anyone can witness for themselves what the Dalai Lama said about the Dorje Shugden ban. In law, this is considered evidence. How is it possible that people still believe without doubt that His Holiness is a n icon of peace, equanimity, compassion or wisdom if such a ruthless ban is applied by him.

    Even if he made a mistake in establishing the ban, he could immediately change his statement or add “please do not cause harm to those who chose to practice Dorje Shugden” when he sees disharmony erupt amongst his people. Despite the many pictures of suffering, the Dalai Lama has done nothing to diffuse the situation. In fact, he is adding fuel to the fire.

    The Tibetans have already lost so much, the last thing they need is a cold war within a community they belong to. Something simply does not make sense in all this controversy.

    As we may never be able to understand the “play of the divine” as many practitioners often refer to this controversy, we should at the very least, urgently put a stop to the discrimination, suppression and breach of human right resulting from the ban on Dorje Shugden.

    Please join in this quest to give a voice to those who are silenced by fear.

  33. Pastor Henry Ooi on Jan 3, 2016 at 11:48 am

    This unjust and undemocratic ban on the practice of Dorje Shugden is going on for too long, bringing increasing hardship and suffering to Dorje Shugden practitioners.

    Never mind the adult practitioners, but what about innocent young children who knew nothing about the practice? 
    Who are they included in the unfair ban that they cannot attend school? Treated as pariahs by their peers? 
    Barred from entering groceries to buy food and other necessities?
    Turned away from hospitals when they seek medical help?

    Is this the so called democratic governing of Tibetans by the Tibetan Government in Exile (now called Central Tibetan Administration – CTA)? To me, it seems that the CTA has gone back in time, back to the 5th Century Middle Ages, while most of the rest of the world are moving ahead with modern time.

    At the time of making the videos I could see the Dalai Lama being in excellent health. I did not see the Dalai Lama’s eyesight and hearing were failing him. Thus I cannot understand how the Dalai Lama could not have possibly heard of the physical harm inflicted on Dorje Shugden practitioners. I wonder why the denial.

    I do not see the practice of Guru Devotion. There is no Compassion, Loving Kindness, Do No Harm, Tolerance, Peace, Patience being practiced by the CTA that the Dalai Lama speak of in his dharma talks.

    Why dedicate the merit amassed at the end of each puja to all sentient beings but not to Dorje Shugden practitioners.

    If the CTA want respect they should win over the hearts of its people, but not through segregation and harm. Respect and faith cannot be had through a ban leading to verbal and physical violence, nor through denying human rights and religious freedom. The CTA should plead to the Dalai Lama to end the ban so they can restore the faith and respect of the people. Build on what is left of the Tibetan government in exile. They now have no country, why lose its people.

    Maybe the Dalai Lama has a bigger picture but the current pictures that I am seeing now do not augur well for the Dalai Lama. I respect the Dalai Lama like I respect all spiritual masters and religious heads. But my spiritual guru is His Eminence the 25th Tsem Rinpoche. I am a Malaysian and I obey the laws of my country, Malaysia, that  allow religious freedom. I do not have to abide to what the Dalai Lama enforces on Tibetans. But I cannot sit by and not lend a voice to these unfortunate Tibetans who did nothing wrong legally except doing Dorje Shugden practice, a practice given to them by their gurus. This is practicing Guru Devotion.

    The ban on a ‘spirit’, as claimed by the Dalai Lama and the CTA, is so small compared to the suffering of so many people. Why let the more suffer?

    • wooishen on Jan 3, 2016 at 2:02 pm

      well said… Pastor……

      • Pastor Henry Ooi on Jan 3, 2016 at 5:11 pm

        Thank you, wooishen. What is your opinion 🙂

        • wooishen on Jan 3, 2016 at 8:09 pm

          Dear Pastor,

          i feel very sad how HHDL and CTA towards DS practitioners…

          For them not just a ban…

          Please just read what they mention…at CTA website….

          So sorry HHDL and CTA… u r separating the religion ……

  34. Valentina Suhendra on Jan 3, 2016 at 11:14 am

    Dear Rinpoche and Pastor Khong Jean Ai

    Thank you for this powerful post. I have been observing

    Sometimes in life, we do need to speak up and defend our belief. I respect my Guru H.E. Tsem Tulku Rinpoche the 25th very much for doing so. My Guru follows his Guru’s advice to practice the enlightened protector Dorje Shugden. In the time of peace or conflict regarding this deity, Rinpoche’s faith and determination in following his Guru’s advice never falter. I trust I have chosen the right Guru.

    H.H. Dalai Lama the 14th has implemented the ban and encouraged others to discriminate against Dorje Shugden practitioners. What do they do wrong. They practice their faith quietly and not harming anyone. So why on earth they have to hide, be denied services in public places, have their family and friends severe relation to them. It does not make sense to me.

    Where I come from – Indonesia – a very lovely country with diverse, we respect each other’s religion. I can declare that I am a Buddhist and a Dorje Shugden practitioners openly. I think my track record with Kechara Indonesia have shown that I have worked harmoniously and respect other religion very much. I have been treated very well too by my friends, colleagues and acquaintances. I hope CTA and Dalai Lama can learn from a free country like Indonesia.


  35. Jason king on Jan 3, 2016 at 10:09 am

    Dear Tsem Tulku Rinpoche. You are not wrong to point out the inconsistencies in His Holiness approach towards the Dorje Shugden practitioners. He is the leader of his ‘country’ and has to protect all his ‘citizens’. So it seems His Holiness is in a quandary. He advocates a ‘ban’ on religious grounds and because of that his ‘subjects’ are under tremendous persecution by his followers both in the religious and secular segment of society. As His Holiness is person who is deemed to be a practising compassion I find it difficult to come to terms with the buddhism he teaches as it goes against the tenets of dharma that I learned.

    I hope that your message will be brought to His Holiness attention and His Holiness will be awaken from a j’udgement lapse’ since 1996. I have placed the expression of a lapse of judgement as I am not qualified or dared to criticise His Holiness as some where along my time line of studies, I came across Chugyam Trungpas book citing buddhist crazy wisdom.

    Crazy wisdom or not, there is no compassion in persecution, ostracism etc. My heart bleeds each time I see or hear nastiness being hurled at Rinpoche or you dedicated team of students, let alone all those helpless Tibetan Dorje Shugden practitioners.

    I have copied your link and emailed it to a radio station and I m hoping the presenter who is a very well liked fair individual who makes very cogent discussions on literally many worldly matters will read and do something to help the persecuted practitioners

    • Tsem Rinpoche on Jan 3, 2016 at 10:26 am

      Dear Jason King, Thank you for your thoughts. I was happy to read about it. It is not easy to blog something of this nature, but I feel it has to be done for the benefit of many that suffer so much due to this ban. I thank you for sending this blog post to your radio station. I hope they read it too and bring it to the attention of many. Only when many know about what is happening can the segregation stop. Thank you so much. Tsem Rinpoche

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  • Stella Cheang
    Friday, Jul 29. 2016 01:44 PM
    Guru for Hire and Enlightenment for Sale is not just any Dharma book (or DVD). It is the holy “bible” for all of us who are keen and genuine in wanting to immerse ourselves in Dharma. The guidelines mentioned in this book is very logical and practical. For example, how should we manage or handle new students, what are the basic infrastructure required for a retreat centre or dharma centre, and how should we handle VIP that is brought in by another member? It certainly sound funny the way Rinpoche articulated it, but some of those examples are true stories in real life. We committed those “silly mistakes” because we, citizen of this beautiful country, do not have the mass consciousness for Buddhism. We are lacking in the general knowledge or etiquette of being a Buddhist, leave alone knowing the protocol on how to respect a lama, or understand the importance to sponsor a lama and the holy sangha. In Tibet, a revered high lama like Rinpoche will not be subjected to all the mundane chores like how Rinpoche used to be doing for his students. But Rinpoche did. We are very fortunate to have Rinpoche laid down plainly the guidelines as well as procedures for us, hence we must cherish the knowledge, learn up as best as we can, and be ready to share it with others.

    Thank you Rinpoche and Pastor Han Nee for this sharing.
  • samfoonheei
    Friday, Jul 29. 2016 01:31 PM
    Thanks for sharing this book review…..interesting there s so much to know and learn from , even though it just a review all from Ronpoche teachings.I read it over and over again to understand better.Mr.Edward Ooi…did a good job putting all important points down for us to understand better.Thanks you Mr Edward Ooi I will recommend this book to my friends .May all of us be blessed and be more compassionate.
    With folded hands
  • sonny tan
    Friday, Jul 29. 2016 11:37 AM
    sonny tan on Jul 29, 2016 at 11:36 am
    Thank you Rinpoche for this highlight on cruelty to animals. It really made me wants to puke and sick to my stomach reading and seeing this senseless pictures of animals being tortured. It is totally beyond my ordinary human comprehension that these farmers are still resorting to such cruel acts. It is totally outrageous, disgusting to say the least that such cruelty acts still exist in the animal’s farm. I am pretty sure that industrialized countries would have adopted a more humane way of killing these animals rather than bludgeoning them, killing them with rifles pointing at their heads. For instance like putting these animals in a cold room and they would naturally sleep without any pain instituted on them, well it is an afterthought not that I would want encourage killing of animals.
    It made me wonder why humans still believe that animals meat protein is essential for their well-being this misinformation on animal protein good for human has already been debunked and human are still eating it. It has also been discovered that when fear arises in the animals about to be slaughtered they release hormones that would have contents of poison detrimental for human consumption.
    However, on a religious standpoint a simply analogy would be ‘as you sow, so shall you reap’
  • Stella Cheang
    Thursday, Jul 28. 2016 10:50 PM
    Very nice to read about how mankind can actually be loyal and loving in treating their furry best friend. We have too many stories about brutal and violence treatment on animals by human, hence this story is very refreshing. I can only imagine the anxiety and the worry-some feeling experience by Sylvester Stallone and Butkus during those moments of separation. And the adrenaline rush when Stallone gotten his paycheck and wanting to “claim” Butkus back. Given this strong feeling he had for Butkus, I would say the price tag is secondary. I admire Stallone for his loyalty and conviction in his friendship with Butkus.

    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this uplifting story with us.
  • Lin Mun
    Thursday, Jul 28. 2016 09:43 PM
    Keisha is definitely a very brave and compassion girl. Who would dare to stand up for others when she is all alone and surrounded by so many people. I really respect her courage to protect the man even though she may get hurt. It is real kindness that she protects the weak.

    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this story.
  • Pastor Shin Tan
    Thursday, Jul 28. 2016 05:25 PM

    Never forget to do our Vajra Yogini practice. We can lose our money, we can lose our friends, we can lose our position, we can lose our family, we can lose our wife, we can lose our husband and we can lose our materialistic possession because in the end we will lose all outer objects anyway, but NEVER lose our Vajra Yogini practice. Everything lost is meant to be lost because we are in samsara and whatever we enjoy in samsara will not last and will be lost. It is their nature.

    Never waste time, energy and keep procrastinating, but do our Vajra Yogini practice intensely and strongly and be firm. Samsara never grants permanence and happiness, but Vajra Yogini’s practice will hand the universe and all the joys within it to you.
    -Tsem Rinpoche

  • samfoonheei
    Thursday, Jul 28. 2016 12:34 PM
    Amazing lady… Jane Goodall!..An inspiring article to know so much of this kind and compassionate lady.I do enjoyed watching the video and reading it. Thank you Rinpoche and team for sharing.She is a truly inspiring lady with a strong determination, selflessness and mindfulness to do what she wanted by all means to create a friendly environment and preservation of wild life.She is an example for us to follow.
    Thanks again.
  • sonny tan
    Thursday, Jul 28. 2016 09:57 AM
    sonny tan on Jul 28, 2016 at 9:56 am
    Thank you Rinpoche for this highlight on death, a morbid and taboo subject, everyone knows about death but few wants to hear it, talk or discuss about it but eventually we will all have to face this moment one day. It is an inevitable fact that we have to embrace it when our numbers are up, a highly respected sage was asked about death he replied that we are all heading towards death the minute we are born, go to every householder and you will realize that there is always death in every family for no can or will ever escape from it.
    There will always be extreme fear, uncertainties, mental confusion, depression and fearing of the unknown as many of us are unprepared when it really and eventually arrived at our door step. What will be my thoughts then when it comes? I would feel the same situation as everyone else prior to my coming here at Kechara. At least now in Kechara with constant Rinpoche’s teaching and discourses on so many subjects about life and hereafter and being guided on the so many steps, ways, meditation practices that I can learn and prepare for the final moments I would say it somewhat has lessened the fear and hopefully be more brave to accept it as a reality and should not shun it and be in denial mode but be properly prepare for it.
    It is rather unfortunate that many of our elders has not guided us, prepare us or discuss with us on this subject however, if they had done so we would have been better equip with the knowledge on death. I guess they are also in the dark on this subject unless they are spiritually inclined especially towards Buddhism.
  • Lin Mun
    Wednesday, Jul 27. 2016 09:40 PM
    So glad to see 2 religious leaders come together for a dialogue. This show mutual respect and freedom of religious among the society.

    It is so important to practise our belief in peace and harmony environment. Religion should not bring any force but with understanding of good values and intention.
  • samfoonheei
    Wednesday, Jul 27. 2016 03:44 PM
    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing his beautiful inspiring spiritual journey.May Rinpoche be united as one with Vajrayogini and
    may all of us have the great merits to be blessed with the precious Vajrayogini practice. If i can have fantasy imagination so beautiful too will be great. Those pictures shown above was very beautiful and simple in a way. I liked it.We are fortunate to have Rinpoche sharing his teachings in KFR
    with folded hands,thanks again
  • samfoonheei
    Wednesday, Jul 27. 2016 02:37 PM
    Thank you, Rinpoche, for sharing the above videos.I have still quite a lot to learn ..Its really so kind and generous for Rinpoche to show us his altar… beautiful and neatly arranged.The Mother Vajrayogini is so beautiful too. Its a blessing that we are given a chance to see it. I do enjoy seeing those beautiful statues and offerings.I do hope i will have more offerings at my altar too in future.
    Thanks again
  • sonny tan
    Wednesday, Jul 27. 2016 01:02 PM
    sonny tan on Jul 27, 2016 at 1:01 pm
    Thank you Pastor Niral and team for producing such exciting and powerful explanation on the God and Goddesses realm. Though mind boggling but interesting to note that the Gods have a lifespan same like us here on earth but perhaps they lived much longer period.
    It would be interesting to know when residing in the Gods realm would there be any further dharma teachings to ascend to higher consciousness or merely a realm indulging in extreme pleasures while waiting for the karma to be depleted.
    It is very enlightening to know that Lord Buddha transformed into a combined form of Heruka and Vajrayogini to subdue Heruka and consort. I always have this idea that Lord Buddha is in a realm where he resides in total sublime bliss and peace but I guess he is omnipresent and omniscient in every aspect.
    Meditation on death and Vajrayogini practice as taught by Rinpoche would be a fast and good gateway to reach the higher consciousness realm and return to our true nature and not enjoying the sensual pleasures of the Gods realm.
  • Alice Tay
    Wednesday, Jul 27. 2016 12:44 PM
    感谢仁波切和Pastor David在此分享令人鼓舞的一项消息,就是至尊第十一世班禅额尔德尼•确吉坚赞在中国西藏自治区西南部日喀则扎什伦布寺附近的新夏宫授予时轮金刚灌顶。这是50年以来,首次在中国西藏公开举办如此大规模时轮金刚灌顶,而且是由年轻的至尊第十一世班禅喇嘛首次授予时轮金刚灌顶。随喜参与时轮金刚灌顶者。


    1. 如果说至尊第十一世班禅喇嘛是错误被认证为高僧转世,那么他的转世法脉所具有的功德,将会他造成不利的影响,甚至寿命会缩短。再者,时轮金刚灌顶法会中的仪式、观想和念诵内容十分复杂繁琐。然而,年轻的至尊第十一世班禅大师尽管首次授予这项灌顶,但因为有前世的深刻印记,让他可以在此大会表现得从容、自信、熟练和到位。此外,如果是一位假冒的上师,他的佛法事业和教诲是不会得到扩展。然而,现任至尊第十一世班禅喇嘛的影响力与日俱增就如这次的大会每天吸引了超过十万人出席。以上所提到足以证明至尊第十一世班禅喇嘛确凿无误是真正的班禅转世。

    2. 任何一位上师或修行者皆可以接受时轮金刚灌顶、投入所需修持和为他人授予灌顶。重点是修持者必须从一位具格的时轮金刚续传承上师接受灌顶,然后专注投入时轮续修持,并在结束所需完成的闭关后进行火供仪式。如此可见,并不只有至尊达赖尊者、班禅大师或高僧大德才能授予这项灌顶。

    3. 此次灌顶大会都由中国政府支持和赞助,而这显示中国政府提倡信仰自由。再加上至尊第十一世班禅大师没有限制反之欢迎任何人参与这次的灌顶法会。反观至尊的达赖尊者曾经在印度达兰萨拉所举办的同类仪式和灌顶却禁止多杰雄登修持者出席。佛法的究竟目的就是要利益一切众生。但是在至尊达赖尊者的道场还会出现排斥多杰雄登修持者出席,真的令人匪夷所思。

    4. 随着班禅大师的名气和影响力的提升,多杰雄登修持也会越来越受欢迎。因为,多杰雄登不仅是班禅大师的其中一位主要护法,也是历代班禅驻锡地扎什伦布寺的护法。
  • Jason
    Wednesday, Jul 27. 2016 02:06 AM
    I really feel blessed and happy to see this food offering to Thai monks. Rinpoche give a very well explanation on the benefit of doing this virtuous action. I had been Bangkok so many times, but I know nothing about foods offering to monk along the street. This write up really open my eyes so I can do this in my future trip to Bangkok. From my understandings, support Sangha is indirectly turn the dharma wheel because we support daily needs to Sangha and they can fully concentrate on teachings dharma.
    Thanks Rinpoche for sharing.

    With folded hands,
  • Lin Mun
    Tuesday, Jul 26. 2016 10:52 PM
    It is so scary to know that McDonald’s food has so much chemicals. Previously I read some articles and watched videos about the fries and nuggets, but this articles has more. I guess that is one of the reason why in this years of age more people are prompt to sickness and cancers.

    We are feeding chemicals to our body. Why wouldn’t government stop all this harmful food and continue to support the growth of such business?

    I hope more people will be aware of such unscrupulous entrepreneurs and STOP eating chemicals.

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The Unknown

The Known and unknown are both feared,
Known is being comfortable and stagnant,
The unknown may be growth and opportunities,
One shall never know if one fears the unknown more than the known.
Who says the unknown would be worse than the known?
But then again, the unknown is sometimes worse than the known. In the end nothing is known unless we endeavour,
So go pursue all the way with the unknown,
because all unknown with familiarity becomes the known.
~Tsem Rinpoche

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2 days ago
This picture says it all. I wonder always why constructed items these days wear out so fast.
5 days ago
This is a beautiful portrait
5 days ago
Sacred art work on Vajra Yogini
7 days ago
Never forget to do our Vajra Yogini practice. We can lose our money, we can lose our friends, we can lose our position, we can lose our family, we can lose our wife, we can lose our husband and we can lose our materialistic possession because in the end we will lose all outer objects anyway, but NEVER lose our Vajra Yogini practice. Everything lost is meant to be lost because we are in samsara and whatever we enjoy in samsara will not last and will be lost. It is their nature. Never waste time, energy and keep procrastinating, but do our Vajra Yogini practice intensely and strongly and be firm. Samsara never grants permanence and happiness, but Vajra Yogini's practice will hand the universe and all the joys within it to you.-Tsem Rinpoche
1 week ago
LADRANG LIGHT OFFERING FUND A rare and precious opportunity for candles to be offered on your behalf at the private residence of His Eminence Tsem Rinpoche. The offering of light to the Three Jewels has great benefits for one's mind including gaining clarity and intelligence, the acceleration of realisations, and greater understanding and wisdom. This exclusive light offering is also ideal for those who do not have a personal altar or are unable to make light offerings themselves.
1 week ago
Nice friends who help each other in Dharma works.
1 week ago
Venerable Geshe Puntsok speaks so well in both Tibetan and English: and
1 week ago
Beautiful image of Avalokitesvara who has spoken before. Housed in Ladakh
1 week ago
Our Panglung Kuten taking trance of Dorje Shugden in Tibet where he is greatly sought after
1 week ago
Beautiful painting of Atisha
2 weeks ago
Beautiful Tara has arrived in Kechara Forest Retreat. See many more pictures:
2 weeks ago
Gorgeous Buddha carved into the mountain in China
2 weeks ago
Beautiful Dorje Shugden Gyenze statue by Kechara available at
2 weeks ago
I like this Buddha image very much
2 weeks ago
Beautiful Buddha in the Bodhgaya enlightenment stupa
2 weeks ago
Pastor Lanse, contact her if you have questions..she is kind and helpful.
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Buddha sat under this tree when he gained enlightenment
2 weeks ago
Buddha Goddess Dukkar. Beautiful image.
2 weeks ago
Such a nice retreat house for extended meditations and prayers.. ..incredible. With trees, sunshine, pond, lotus leaves and purple flowers. I love this whole setting. Even creepers growing on the roof of the house. How perfect this place is for me.
3 weeks ago
Tsem Rinpoche brings home Dharma and this was his first day home.
4 weeks ago
White Tara mantra in Sanskrit
4 weeks ago
Beautiful thangka of Buddha of wisdom Saraswati
4 weeks ago
Beautiful image of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen in Kechara
4 weeks ago
A beautiful and blessed Dharma family. May Lord Manjushri guide, bless and keep them close to Him in this and all lives. Tsem Rinpoche
4 weeks ago
One of the things I love about my Guru is that his teachings are never dry and far from boring. Rinpoche would joke, poke fun and tease but there is always an insightful, if not profound, teaching in each joke or teasing. I consider myself very blessed to have found a Guru who has the skillful means to drum some Dharma into this numbskull of mine. -From Sharon Ong
4 weeks ago
I really like outdoor Buddhas.
4 weeks ago
Dorje Shugden takes trance of the senior Choyang Dulzin Kuten in Gaden Monastery.
4 weeks ago
His Holiness Kyabje Zong Choktrul Rinpoche sitting on my lap during a teaching in Dharamsala. I am so happy to hold the reincarnation of my precious teacher. Tsem Rinpoche
4 weeks ago
This is a beautiful picture of Choktrul Zemey Rinpoche. May he bless all of us and manifest the teaching of Tsongkapa's doctrine again.
4 weeks ago
This is really nicely done. Welcome!
4 weeks ago
Good friends with good motivation coupled with a kind heart to be of benefit to others is time worth spent. Life is over so fast and anytime it can be snuffed out, so therefore do dharma, practice dharma, and engage in dharma. Tsem Rinpoche.
1 month ago
Sacred Manjushri Kumara 9th Century Pala Dynasty India
1 month ago
This sacred White Tara is on the Bodhgaya enlightenment stupa marking the very spot Lord Buddha achieved enlightenment.
2 months ago
Myself at the sacred lake at Dromo Geshe Rinpoche's residence
2 months ago
Myself at Dromo Geshe Rinpoche's house where there is a sacred lake on his property. The Five Sister Protector Goddesses abide at this lake. I am making offerings to the divinities in the lake here. Many contractors or workers who come to do work often observe 'Asian ladies' dressed very well walking around the perimeter of the lake and there are no Asian ladies living nearby at all. Tsem Rinpoche
2 months ago
Myself sitting at a lake where Bigfoots are often sighted in Willow Creek, California. This area in Northern California is a hot spot for Bigfoot sightings for hundreds of years till present day. We spent the afternoon there and we did our sadhanas and enjoy the BEAUTIFUL cool/dry weather (no humidity) and you don't sweat. The water was clear and sparkling. It is one of the most beautiful places I have been too and I can easily live there in this area. It was hard to leave this place. Tsem Rinpoche
2 months ago
Such a beautiful conservatory. How I would love to have a room like this among woodlands.
2 months ago
Another beautiful Gyenze statue arrives made by Kechara
2 months ago
My Mumu boy is super duper cute. I love you Mumu.
2 months ago
Pastor Adeline leads a holy and beneficial Tsongkapa retreat group in Kechara Forest Retreat today. Very nice to see this. I like it when our Pastors and senior students encourage, nurture others into the dharma. Tsem Rinpoche
2 months ago
Images of the Buddha are always a great blessing
2 months ago
Beautifully painted Shakyamuni the Buddha
2 months ago
Nice painting of Lord Tsongkapa
2 months ago
Beautiful painting of His Holiness Panchen Rinpoche the omniscient.
2 months ago
This is a traditional thangka painting of the Karma Gadri style, which was especially commissioned by Tashi Mannox on the rarely depicted great calligrapher and scholar Thönmi Sambhota. Sambhota is a historical figure responsible for developing the foundation of the Tibetan writing systems in the seventh century A.D, which form the basis of the Tibetan language today.
2 months ago
Spectacular outdoor Tsongkapa in Mongolia
2 months ago
BEAUTIFUL Tara statue! Magnificent
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  • Dorje Shugden oracle taking trance in China
    2 months ago
    Dorje Shugden oracle taking trance in China
  • Dorje Shugden oracle taking trance in China
    2 months ago
    Dorje Shugden oracle taking trance in China
  • Taking Trance
    3 months ago
    Taking Trance
  • See what humans can do
    5 months ago
    See what humans can do
  • Shocking undercover video shows animal abuse at 'humane cert
    5 months ago
    Shocking undercover video shows animal abuse at 'humane cert
  • Video reveals what goes on inside 'humane slaughterhouse' in
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    Video reveals what goes on inside 'humane slaughterhouse' in
  • People can really live their lives to save others. This is a good way to live. Beautiful video.
    6 months ago
    People can really live their lives to save others. This is a good way to live. Beautiful video.
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    8 months ago
    All beings have feelings and do not want pain, to be hurt or harmed. Therefore we must respect this and not harm animals. See this video how this man has made good friends with a special fish who comes when he rings for the fish. Touching. Tsem Rinpoche
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    10 months ago
    HH the Dalai Lama prays with HH Trijang Rinpoche and HH Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche. Such a beautiful video of His Holiness Dalai Lama, His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and His Holiness Dilgo Kyentse Rinpoche (Very exalted high Nyingma lama) are all praying together. In the background you see a young Kyabje Lati Rinpoche too. So beautiful. This is how it was before the ban. All the sects and high lamas were superbly harmonious. After the Dorje Shugden ban things changed for the worse. May the ban be released soon. Tsem Rinpoche
  • Nice Dorje Shugden rock painting
    11 months ago
    Nice Dorje Shugden rock painting
  • His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche teaches the truth of life and our impeding death.
    11 months ago
    His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche teaches the truth of life and our impeding death.
  • A kind message from Mr. Tsering Wangchuk to me. Thank you so much. Tsem Rinpoche
    11 months ago
    A kind message from Mr. Tsering Wangchuk to me. Thank you so much. Tsem Rinpoche
  • Mr Chatreng Yeshe's message to me (Part 1)
    11 months ago
    Mr Chatreng Yeshe's message to me (Part 1)
  • Mr Chatreng Yeshe's message to me (Part 2)
    11 months ago
    Mr Chatreng Yeshe's message to me (Part 2)
  • His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche accepts Long Life puja
    1 years ago
    His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche accepts Long Life puja


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6 hours ago
Children loves the face art section during the KSDS Art Exhibition 2016. Lin Mun KSDS
6 hours ago
Great move team. They are practicing for their coming year end performance. Lin Mun KSDS
6 hours ago
Look at how close the bonding between student and teacher in Sunday Dharma class. :) Lin Mun KSDS
6 hours ago
Children leaning the move shown in the screen as part of their year end performance. Lin Mun KSDS
6 hours ago
Children of Sunday Dharma School joined Pastor Yek Yee during animal liberation session. Lin Mun KSDS
9 hours ago
Whenever you feel angry, chant Manjushri's mantra & think things through thoroughly. Don't act on emotions & from anger, Regrets ; OM AH RA PA TZA NA DHI– Tsem Rinpoche (By Freon 29 July'16)
11 hours ago
The teens are very focus reading the paper in their hand. KSDS-Serena Boon
11 hours ago
KSDS teachers are not just teaching but also having fun with kids. KSDS-Serena Boon
11 hours ago
Kids like to share their favourites with teachers. KSDS-Serena Boon
12 hours ago
Teacher Alice brief to teens about the role play for graduation drama. KSDS-Serena Boon
12 hours ago
Teacher Serena is discussing with teens about the graduation preparations. KSDS-Serena Boon
15 hours ago
Setrap Puja@ KH,Penang on 31/7/16. Inserted by Leonard Ooi
22 hours ago
Set Lunch at Kechara Oasis Jaya One "Wan Tan Noodle" #vegetarian #dumpling #char siew #vegetables #simple #delicious #visit #try ~ Guat Hee
24 hours ago
Thank you to teacher Lai, our senior Kecharian. Keep on assisting in the KSDS too. KSDS / Kien
24 hours ago
Teacher Calista very new in KSDS Dharma class. But, she is very committed and happy to teach. Nice to have her. KSDS / Kien
24 hours ago
Youngest kids class of teacher Stella and Calista have some funs during Dharma class. KSDS / Kien
24 hours ago
Teacher Stella lading the kids to sing the Mantra in the class. KSDS / Kien
24 hours ago
A caring sister Nadia with the brother in the Sunday Dharma class. KSDS / Kien
By Freon 28 July'16
2 days ago
Dukkar grants powerful protection from over 60 classes of spirits if we recite her mantra. OM SITA TA PA TREY HUM PHET..Dukkar fortifies our body so strongly that spirits literary cannot invade. She is very healing and helps to strengthen the body against physical problems. Lucy Yap
2 days ago
We meet from KSK, now we share and learn from KH, all because of our Guru, Thank you. Ray Thing, KSDS.
2 days ago
SMILE, a beautiful way to reach each others. Ray Thing, KSDS.
2 days ago
Fun times. Ray Thing, KSDS.
2 days ago
When students sharing, teacher listening. Ray Thing, KSDS.
2 days ago
Teacher Victor & students having discussion on role playing. Ray Thing, KSDS.





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