Woman Arrested For Mistreating Dog…

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NEW YORK (1010 WINS) – Humane law enforcement agents of the ASPCA arrested a Queens woman accused of animal neglect.

Acting on an anonymous complaint, ASPCA agents went to the residence of 47-year-old Ana Herra and found a female mixed breed dog named Julie, who was in “terrible condition.”

According to Joseph Pentangelo, the Assistant Director for Humane Law Enforcement at the ASPCA, when authorities came upon the dog, she was “very weak” and “in need of medical attention.”

Pentangelo told 1010 WINS Saturday that the dog had to be euthanized after having a physical exam at Bergh Memorial Animal Hospital.

“Her health was very compromised and she had not had veterinary attention in a long period of time,” he said.

Herra was charged with one count of misdemeanor animal cruelty. She faces up to one year in jail and/or a $1,000 fine.

“Animals do depend on us for their care and nobody has to own a pet. But if you do own a pet, you should recognize the responsibility and there are laws that involve that responsibility,” Pentangelo said.”

Extracted from: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/03/12/queens-woman-accused-of-keeping-dog-in-terrible-condition/




It is terrible how people mistreat animals that they have taken in as pets. Animals cannot voice their discomfort, nor can they do much to get out of their situation. On our part, it is only right to give basic attention and care to those whom we have CHOSEN to bring under our roof.

I feel very sorry for the dog that was mistreated by this lady who was supposed to take care of her. Neighbours in Corona had called the ASPCA to report a matted dog. A dog only becomes matted when it has been neglected – the dog’s natural long hair would get tangled and stick together… a little like dreadlocks.

This neglected dog, Julie, was a mixed breed dog around 10-12 years old… and she was so weak that she was unable to stand.

Like all of our pets, Julie deserves a happy home and a loving, responsible owner – especially since she didn’t choose to be in this particular home. A lot of people think that they are doing the dogs a favour by taking care of them. It’s quite the opposite. Animals teach us patience, loyalty and friendship.

According to ASPCA, “Julie was moved to the ASPCA’s Bergh Memorial Animal Hospital after Herra relinquished control of her to the ASPCA. Just a few hours after her admission, Julie was ‘humanely’ euthanized because of her compromised health.”

I do not support euthanasia at all. Just like how we should not mistreat animals, it’s a form of mistreatment to end an animals life when WE choose to. That is why I have set up Kechara Animal Sanctuary, where we practice a “No-Kill” policy. So far, it has worked out for the best… and like in Sara‘s case, it shows that even in the most dire and desperation situations… there is always a chance.

If we believe in karma, we know that these dogs will have to live out their karmic results in this life or in another. So if we do see an animal suffering, we should give as much relief as we can, such as medical help, and also chant mantras and blow on them. This will calm the animal down and also plant karmic seeds in their minds…

Never mistreat others just because you can. With animals, other than having different bodies, they too do not wish to feel suffering just like us.

I have added a video below of another matted dog. He was one of the worst matted dog cases. This type of neglect is a form of animal cruelty in itself. Do take a look…

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  1. Samfoonheei on Aug 8, 2021 at 4:10 pm

    When we have chosen to have a dog pet ,bringing under our roof we have the responsibilities to give love , care treating them as a member of our family. Dogs can’t speak but having a close bond with them one will somehow understand them. All I can say is dogs do speak, but only to those who know how to listen. A dog will teach you unconditional love. love can make him wag his tail.
    Heart felt after reading this post , sad story of how a dog was mistreated by a lady owner Herra. This neglected dog named Julie, was so weak and unable to stand when the ASPCA found her. Julie condition was so bad and in need of medical attention. The lady Herra was arrested for cruelty, and mistreating and was charged. Like all of our pets, Julie deserves a happy home . Dogs are man’s best friend.
    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this post.

  2. Vivian Ong on Apr 29, 2017 at 12:08 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this article to highlight the mistreatment of the dog owners towards their dogs. Nowadays, we do come across dog owners who does not take care of their own dogs and some even heavily abuse them. Why in the first place they want to take in the dog as their pet if they themselves don’t want to take care of the dog? I think if anyone thinking of getting a dog as their pet must really think it over and over again carefully before adopting them as it is a commitment.

    With folded palms,
    Vivian

  3. Kb thapa on Apr 5, 2016 at 7:44 pm

    This for many people is what is most offensive about hunting—to some, disgusting: that it encourages, or allows, us not only to kill but to take a certain pleasure in killing. It’s not as though the rest of us don’t countenance the killing of tens of millions of animals every year. Yet for some reason we feel more comfortable with the mechanical killing practiced, out of view and without emotion..

  4. Beatrix Ooi on Feb 6, 2016 at 6:52 am

    I can’t say that I am happy to read about this because the poor doggie had went through and suffered a lot during the process, the only thing I am glad that has happened would be the fact that the woman was arrested. We should be responsible for our speech and acts, therefore it is very important to think twice before we say or do anything because sometimes the consequences are pretty massive. I hope that more awareness will be brought towards animal abuse and I pray that it will come to an end. In order for this to become real, government officials should do the best they can to ensure that the culprits are punished rationally.

  5. Lucas Roth on Sep 20, 2015 at 11:54 pm

    It makes me sick to my stomach when I hear a story of an abused pet and how the owner cannot give love to him/her and leaves her to suffer. It is because irresponsible people like that take an animal home and hurt them and neglect them without means to make them live.

    The reason I say this is because when you take an animal home, they join your family, and you take the responsibility to take care of that animal with love. When you don’t since you have taken priority for that animal, the animal cannot be helped by others. So you take that animals chances of being helped by not fulfilling your promise to it when you took it home and made it your own family member. You destroy that animal’s life. Even when I can’t see my dog in the garden everyday when I am doing work or when I cam tired. I at least see him and make a commitment to see him when I can. But I do not cut off his love and supply to live. He is not abused. Just on somedays a bit lonely when my other dog is outside. The point is I still love him and I will always. In fact I will see him tomorrow because I had a lot of homework this weekend. I still say hi when I don’t have time to play too.

    But the fact that there is punishment now. And there is warning to all those people who don’t care and wish to hurt. That people are learning to be aware of crime against lives and not just humans. That is a good thing to take back from this. We are learning. It is a start.

  6. Beatrix Ooi on May 31, 2014 at 2:06 am

    This is really sad, and I do agree that if we own a pet, the pet is our responsibility. If we can’t take good care of one’s life, its consider as an abuse. These wonderful beings do not deserve to be treated this way, its better not to have a pet than having one yet do not know how to take care of it.

  7. beatrix ooi on Apr 23, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    This is so terrible! If people do not want to take responsible, do not have pets then. Why have something at home which you wouldn’t take care, you will ended up making the poor thing suffer.
    Every single pet deserves to be treated well, deserves to have a nice and happy home.
    Poor little Julie, I hope she takes a good rebirth and will never have to go through the pain she has been through again.
    Thank You for sharing Rinpoche.
    Love, beatrix.

  8. Sean Wang on Feb 15, 2013 at 1:30 am

    This is very good news. Not the fact that a dog was abused but rather the abuser was caught. It is a good day in the fight against animal cruelty. I wish that all people who commit the act of abuse towards their animal companions be arrested and fined. If laws are enforced, cruelty will stop.

  9. Julien Roth on Jan 9, 2013 at 9:53 pm

    What kind of person would do such a thing to their pet? I just can’t believe it. I mean, this women probably did decide to have a dog under the same house as her, which means that it is her responsibility to take care of the dog. So i don’t see a reason why this dog has to be treated this way.

    When i saw the pictures in the video, It looked so bad, i thought it didn’t even look like a dog in one of the photos. Its actually that bad. I truly feel bad for the dog. But i am so happy to know that it is now in good hands and that it will be taken care of with love.

  10. edward ooi on Dec 29, 2012 at 3:54 am

    Animals should not be treated in that way they should be treated with love and care. Dogs in just like a reflection of its own owner, if the owner treat it badly then the dog will be mean to people too, if they treat them with love and care then it will trust human beings. I love animals very very much i wish that one day animals will trust humans and humans will trust animals too.

  11. Sheryl KH (JB) on Jul 28, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Feel sad reading this story. Yet, I wonder how many animal mistreating cases are discovered with the culprits punished accordingly.

    Somehow I feel that the penalty of 1K fine seems so little as compared to the pains that the animal has to go through. Like Rinpoche has said, animals cant speak out their pains like we do, especially when it is internal injuries or anything that is not apparent from their body, chances are that when we discover the illnesses it may already be too late.

    I do not like euthanasia as well. It is really very painful to have to kill our own pets with a needle.

    Hence, this calls for close observation on our own pets. If they act differently from their normal selves, it is best to send them to pet immediately.

    Dogs are really very loyal to their animals, even if they are suffering due to neglect, they still stick by their own owners. I do not really know where else I can find this kind of loyalty.

  12. martin on Apr 17, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    And here’s another case of blatant torture. I cannot wait for these laws to be tightened and enforced throughout the world.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PQvY7WeBV0

  13. Ana on Mar 21, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    I’ll pray for this woman and the dog.
    For a person to do that to an animal she must be living in the lowest realms while looking like a human being. May she learn peace and compassion.

  14. Jessi on Mar 20, 2011 at 5:28 am

    There’s no excuse for this! Yes, grooming is expensive, that’s why my husband and I bought a set of clippers and groom our dog ourselves. I can’t do anything fancy, but Davie’s getting really good at it. Your vet can even teach you how to drain a dog’s scent gland. 🙂

  15. martin on Mar 19, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Why do people even get a pet when they are not prepared to care for it properly? And when they relaise that they cannot care for it, why don’t they just find it a new home?

    Human beings can inflict pain and abuse on animals by just being neglectful.

    In the case above, the Law of man stepped in to punish. Regardless, the Laws of Karma always apply.

  16. Dawnene on Mar 19, 2011 at 8:59 am

    My daughter is a dog groomer and she sees all kinds of animals in this condition and then the customers are angry with HER when she tells them they need to take better care of the animals. She has to shave many of them completely and the customers are angry because the dog is shaved. It is horrible to get an animal that requires grooming and then go for months or even years without getting them cared for properly and then blame the groomer. My daughter has worked with animals since she was 12, starting volunteering at a local animal shelter in California and she said the sorrow she felt working in those environment was unbelievable. Though through all of this, she continues to try to help animals after 11 years she is still helping them. She is a lovely kind hearted person.

  17. Klára Moráková on Mar 19, 2011 at 5:30 am

    :-)))http://www.facebook.com/AnimalPlanet

  18. Klára Moráková on Mar 19, 2011 at 4:58 am

    Look at the TV. Programme Animal Planet (sat)Excellent program .. Rinpoche.They have animal agents,they reveal a people who suffer animals!

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But then again, the unknown is sometimes worse than the known. In the end nothing is known unless we endeavour,
So go pursue all the way with the unknown,
because all unknown with familiarity becomes the known.
~Tsem Rinpoche

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According to legend, Shambhala is a place where wisdom and love reign, and there is no crime. Doesn\'t this sound like the kind of place all of us would love to live in? https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=204874
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According to legend, Shambhala is a place where wisdom and love reign, and there is no crime. Doesn't this sound like the kind of place all of us would love to live in? https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=204874
108 candles and sang (incense) offered at our Wish-Fulfilling Grotto, invoking Dorje Shugden\'s blessings for friends, sponsors and supporters, wonderful!
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108 candles and sang (incense) offered at our Wish-Fulfilling Grotto, invoking Dorje Shugden's blessings for friends, sponsors and supporters, wonderful!
Dharmapalas are not exclusive to Tibetan culture and their practice is widespread throughout the Buddhist world - https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=193645
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Dharmapalas are not exclusive to Tibetan culture and their practice is widespread throughout the Buddhist world - https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=193645
One of our adorable Kechara Forest Retreat\'s doggies, Tara, happy and safe, and enjoying herself in front of Wisdom Hall which has been decorated for Chinese New Year
6 years ago
One of our adorable Kechara Forest Retreat's doggies, Tara, happy and safe, and enjoying herself in front of Wisdom Hall which has been decorated for Chinese New Year
Fragrant organic Thai basil harvested from our very own Kechara Forest Retreat farm!
6 years ago
Fragrant organic Thai basil harvested from our very own Kechara Forest Retreat farm!
On behalf of our Puja House team, Pastor Tat Ming receives food and drinks from Rinpoche. Rinpoche wanted to make sure the hardworking Puja House team are always taken care of.
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On behalf of our Puja House team, Pastor Tat Ming receives food and drinks from Rinpoche. Rinpoche wanted to make sure the hardworking Puja House team are always taken care of.
By the time I heard about Luang Phor Thong, he was already very old, in his late 80s. When I heard about him, I immediately wanted to go and pay my respects to him. - http://bit.ly/LuangPhorThong
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By the time I heard about Luang Phor Thong, he was already very old, in his late 80s. When I heard about him, I immediately wanted to go and pay my respects to him. - http://bit.ly/LuangPhorThong
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It's very nice to see volunteers helping maintain holy sites in Kechara Forest Retreat, it's very good for them. Cleaning Buddha statues is a very powerful and effective way of purifying body karma.
Kechara Forest Retreat is preparing for the upcoming Chinese New Year celebrations. This is our holy Vajra Yogini stupa which is now surrounded by beautiful lanterns organised by our students.
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Kechara Forest Retreat is preparing for the upcoming Chinese New Year celebrations. This is our holy Vajra Yogini stupa which is now surrounded by beautiful lanterns organised by our students.
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One of the most recent harvests from our Kechara Forest Retreat land. It was grown free of chemicals and pesticides, wonderful!
Third picture-Standing Manjushri Statue at Chowar, Kirtipur, Nepal.
Height: 33ft (10m)
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Third picture-Standing Manjushri Statue at Chowar, Kirtipur, Nepal. Height: 33ft (10m)
Second picture-Standing Manjushri Statue at Chowar, Kirtipur, Nepal.
Height: 33ft (10m)
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Second picture-Standing Manjushri Statue at Chowar, Kirtipur, Nepal. Height: 33ft (10m)
First picture-Standing Manjushri Statue at Chowar, Kirtipur, Nepal.
Height: 33ft (10m)
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First picture-Standing Manjushri Statue at Chowar, Kirtipur, Nepal. Height: 33ft (10m)
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The first title published by Kechara Comics is Karuna Finds A Way. It tells the tale of high-school sweethearts Karuna and Adam who had what some would call the dream life. Everything was going great for them until one day when reality came knocking on their door. Caught in a surprise swindle, this loving family who never harmed anyone found themselves out of luck and down on their fortune. Determined to save her family, Karuna goes all out to find a solution. See what she does- https://bit.ly/2LSKuWo
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Very powerful story! Tibetan Resistance group Chushi Gangdruk reveals how Dalai Lama escaped in 1959- https://bit.ly/2S9VMGX
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6 years ago
At Kechara Forest Retreat land we have nice fresh spinach growing free of chemicals and pesticides. Yes!
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See beautiful pictures of Manjushri Guest House here- https://bit.ly/2WGo0ti
Beginner’s Introduction to Dorje Shugden~Very good overview https://bit.ly/2QQNfYv
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Beginner’s Introduction to Dorje Shugden~Very good overview https://bit.ly/2QQNfYv
Fresh eggplants grown on Kechara Forest Retreat\'s land here in Malaysia
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Fresh eggplants grown on Kechara Forest Retreat's land here in Malaysia
Most Venerable Uppalavanna – The Chief Female Disciple of Buddha Shakyamuni - She exhibited many supernatural abilities gained from meditation and proved to the world females and males are equal in spirituality- https://bit.ly/31d9Rat
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Most Venerable Uppalavanna – The Chief Female Disciple of Buddha Shakyamuni - She exhibited many supernatural abilities gained from meditation and proved to the world females and males are equal in spirituality- https://bit.ly/31d9Rat
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Thailand’s ‘Renegade’ Yet Powerful Buddhist Nuns~ https://bit.ly/2Z1C02m
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Mahapajapati Gotami – the first Buddhist nun ordained by Lord Buddha- https://bit.ly/2IjD8ru
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The Largest Buddha Shakyamuni in Russia | 俄罗斯最大的释迦牟尼佛画像- https://bit.ly/2Wpclni
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Sacred Vajra Yogini
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Dorje Shugden works & archives - a labour of commitment - https://bit.ly/30Tp2p8
Mahapajapati Gotami, who was the first nun ordained by Lord Buddha.
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Mahapajapati Gotami, who was the first nun ordained by Lord Buddha.
Mahapajapati Gotami, who was the first nun ordained by Lord Buddha. She was his step-mother and aunt. Buddha\'s mother had passed away at his birth so he was raised by Gotami.
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Mahapajapati Gotami, who was the first nun ordained by Lord Buddha. She was his step-mother and aunt. Buddha's mother had passed away at his birth so he was raised by Gotami.
Another nun disciple of Lord Buddha\'s. She had achieved great spiritual abilities and high attainments. She would be a proper object of refuge. This image of the eminent bhikkhuni (nun) disciple of the Buddha, Uppalavanna Theri.
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Another nun disciple of Lord Buddha's. She had achieved great spiritual abilities and high attainments. She would be a proper object of refuge. This image of the eminent bhikkhuni (nun) disciple of the Buddha, Uppalavanna Theri.
Wandering Ascetic Painting by Nirdesha Munasinghe
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Wandering Ascetic Painting by Nirdesha Munasinghe
High Sri Lankan monks visit Kechara to bless our land, temple, Buddha and Dorje Shugden images. They were very kind-see pictures- https://bit.ly/2HQie2M
6 years ago
High Sri Lankan monks visit Kechara to bless our land, temple, Buddha and Dorje Shugden images. They were very kind-see pictures- https://bit.ly/2HQie2M
This is pretty amazing!

First Sri Lankan Buddhist temple opened in Dubai!!!
6 years ago
This is pretty amazing! First Sri Lankan Buddhist temple opened in Dubai!!!
My Dharma boy (left) and Oser girl loves to laze around on the veranda in the mornings. They enjoy all the trees, grass and relaxing under the hot sun. Sunbathing is a favorite daily activity. I care about these two doggies of mine very much and I enjoy seeing them happy. They are with me always. Tsem Rinpoche

Always be kind to animals and eat vegetarian- https://bit.ly/2Psp8h2
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My Dharma boy (left) and Oser girl loves to laze around on the veranda in the mornings. They enjoy all the trees, grass and relaxing under the hot sun. Sunbathing is a favorite daily activity. I care about these two doggies of mine very much and I enjoy seeing them happy. They are with me always. Tsem Rinpoche Always be kind to animals and eat vegetarian- https://bit.ly/2Psp8h2
After you left me Mumu, I was alone. I have no family or kin. You were my family. I can\'t stop thinking of you and I can\'t forget you. My bond and connection with you is so strong. I wish you were by my side. Tsem Rinpoche
6 years ago
After you left me Mumu, I was alone. I have no family or kin. You were my family. I can't stop thinking of you and I can't forget you. My bond and connection with you is so strong. I wish you were by my side. Tsem Rinpoche
This story is a life-changer. Learn about the incredible Forest Man of India | 印度“森林之子”- https://bit.ly/2Eh4vRS
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This story is a life-changer. Learn about the incredible Forest Man of India | 印度“森林之子”- https://bit.ly/2Eh4vRS
Part 2-Beautiful billboard in Malaysia of a powerful Tibetan hero whose life serves as a great inspiration- https://bit.ly/2UltNE4
6 years ago
Part 2-Beautiful billboard in Malaysia of a powerful Tibetan hero whose life serves as a great inspiration- https://bit.ly/2UltNE4
Part 1-Beautiful billboard in Malaysia of a powerful Tibetan hero whose life serves as a great inspiration- https://bit.ly/2UltNE4
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Part 1-Beautiful billboard in Malaysia of a powerful Tibetan hero whose life serves as a great inspiration- https://bit.ly/2UltNE4
The great Protector Manjushri Dorje Shugden depicted in the beautiful Mongolian style. To download a high resolution file: https://bit.ly/2Nt3FHz
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The great Protector Manjushri Dorje Shugden depicted in the beautiful Mongolian style. To download a high resolution file: https://bit.ly/2Nt3FHz
The Mystical land of Shambhala is finally ready for everyone to feast their eyes and be blessed. A beautiful post with information, art work, history, spirituality and a beautiful book composed by His Holiness the 6th Panchen Rinpoche. ~ https://bit.ly/309MHBi
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The Mystical land of Shambhala is finally ready for everyone to feast their eyes and be blessed. A beautiful post with information, art work, history, spirituality and a beautiful book composed by His Holiness the 6th Panchen Rinpoche. ~ https://bit.ly/309MHBi
Beautiful pictures of the huge Buddha in Longkou Nanshan- https://bit.ly/2LsBxVb
6 years ago
Beautiful pictures of the huge Buddha in Longkou Nanshan- https://bit.ly/2LsBxVb
The reason-Very interesting thought- https://bit.ly/2V7VT5r
6 years ago
The reason-Very interesting thought- https://bit.ly/2V7VT5r
NEW Bigfoot cafe in Malaysia! Food is delicious!- https://bit.ly/2VxdGau
6 years ago
NEW Bigfoot cafe in Malaysia! Food is delicious!- https://bit.ly/2VxdGau
DON\'T MISS THIS!~How brave Bonnie survived by living with a herd of deer~ https://bit.ly/2Lre2eY
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DON'T MISS THIS!~How brave Bonnie survived by living with a herd of deer~ https://bit.ly/2Lre2eY
Global Superpower China Will Cut Meat Consumption by 50%! Very interesting, find out more- https://bit.ly/2V1sJFh
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Global Superpower China Will Cut Meat Consumption by 50%! Very interesting, find out more- https://bit.ly/2V1sJFh
You can download this beautiful Egyptian style Dorje Shugden Free- https://bit.ly/2Nt3FHz
6 years ago
You can download this beautiful Egyptian style Dorje Shugden Free- https://bit.ly/2Nt3FHz
Beautiful high file for print of Lord Manjushri. May you be blessed- https://bit.ly/2V8mwZe
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Beautiful high file for print of Lord Manjushri. May you be blessed- https://bit.ly/2V8mwZe
Mongolian (Oymiakon) Shaman in Siberia, Russia. That is his real outfit he wears. Very unique. TR
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Mongolian (Oymiakon) Shaman in Siberia, Russia. That is his real outfit he wears. Very unique. TR
Find one of the most beautiful temples in the world in Nara, Japan. It is the 1,267 year old Todai-ji temple that houses a 15 meter Buddha Vairocana statue who is a cosmic and timeless Buddha. Emperor Shomu who sponsored this beautiful temple eventually abdicated and ordained as a Buddhist monk. Very interesting history and story. One of the places everyone should visit- https://bit.ly/2VgsHhK
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Find one of the most beautiful temples in the world in Nara, Japan. It is the 1,267 year old Todai-ji temple that houses a 15 meter Buddha Vairocana statue who is a cosmic and timeless Buddha. Emperor Shomu who sponsored this beautiful temple eventually abdicated and ordained as a Buddhist monk. Very interesting history and story. One of the places everyone should visit- https://bit.ly/2VgsHhK
Manjusri Kumara (bodhisattva of wisdom), India, Pala dynesty, 9th century, stone, Honolulu Academy of Arts
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Manjusri Kumara (bodhisattva of wisdom), India, Pala dynesty, 9th century, stone, Honolulu Academy of Arts
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Our weekly DS puja, 27th Sept 2025. Next week there will be a retreat too and puja as well. Join in if you're in Penang! Kechara Penang Study Group by Jacinta
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Here are two other completed Dorje Shugden puja done for the past weeks, led by Ong Siew Hong in the month of August. She's an exceptional umze in our group. Special thanks to those who joined the puja regularly. Kechara Penang Study Group by Jacinta.
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Here are two other completed Dorje Shugden puja done for the past weeks, led by Ong Siew Hong in the month of August. She's an exceptional umze in our group. Special thanks to those who joined the puja regularly. Kechara Penang Study Group by Jacinta.
It's been a while since our last update. When KFR was busy organising, serving & helping visiting monks together with their chunks of activities in Bentong, back here in Penang, our small but sturdy Penang Study Group has been consistently having their weekly Dorje Shugden Puja @ every Saturday at 3 pm. Here's one update, completed on 6th September 2025. Kechara Penang Study Group by Jacinta.
4 weeks ago
It's been a while since our last update. When KFR was busy organising, serving & helping visiting monks together with their chunks of activities in Bentong, back here in Penang, our small but sturdy Penang Study Group has been consistently having their weekly Dorje Shugden Puja @ every Saturday at 3 pm. Here's one update, completed on 6th September 2025. Kechara Penang Study Group by Jacinta.
Mr. Cheah Fook Wan offered Serkym to Dorje Shugden in Kechara Ipoh Centre today. So Kin Hoe (KISG)
4 weeks ago
Mr. Cheah Fook Wan offered Serkym to Dorje Shugden in Kechara Ipoh Centre today. So Kin Hoe (KISG)
Mr. Mannance Wong offered incense on behalf of Ipoh members before the puja starts. So Kin Hoe (KISG)
4 weeks ago
Mr. Mannance Wong offered incense on behalf of Ipoh members before the puja starts. So Kin Hoe (KISG)
7th September animals liberation activities.Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam
4 weeks ago
7th September animals liberation activities.Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam
29th evening DORJE SHUGDEN Puja lead by Pastor Seng Piow. Kechara Kuantan Study Group Sam
1 month ago
29th evening DORJE SHUGDEN Puja lead by Pastor Seng Piow. Kechara Kuantan Study Group Sam
28th August Dharma Sharing by Pastor Seng Piow at Center Kuantan Study Group by Sam
1 month ago
28th August Dharma Sharing by Pastor Seng Piow at Center Kuantan Study Group by Sam
26th August evening had our weekly Swift Return Puja..at Kechara Kuantan center..by Sam
1 month ago
26th August evening had our weekly Swift Return Puja..at Kechara Kuantan center..by Sam
Dharma sharing and DORJE SHUGDEN Puja done this evening. Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam
2 months ago
Dharma sharing and DORJE SHUGDEN Puja done this evening. Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam
19th August has our weekly Swift Return Puja for HE Tsem Rinpoche. Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam
2 months ago
19th August has our weekly Swift Return Puja for HE Tsem Rinpoche. Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam
Kechara Ipoh Study Group carried out Gyenza Prayer recitation on Sunday, 17th August '25. So Kin Hoe (KISG)
2 months ago
Kechara Ipoh Study Group carried out Gyenza Prayer recitation on Sunday, 17th August '25. So Kin Hoe (KISG)
14th August Dharma Sharing and DORJE SHUGDEN Puja done at Kechara Kuantan Study Group Sam
2 months ago
14th August Dharma Sharing and DORJE SHUGDEN Puja done at Kechara Kuantan Study Group Sam
12th August evening had Swift Return Puja for HE Tsem Rinpoche Kechara Kuantan Study Group Sam
2 months ago
12th August evening had Swift Return Puja for HE Tsem Rinpoche Kechara Kuantan Study Group Sam
7th August Dharma sharing and DORJE SHUGDEN Puja done. Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam
2 months ago
7th August Dharma sharing and DORJE SHUGDEN Puja done. Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam
Had our weekly Swift Return Puja for HE Tsem Rinpoche Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam
2 months ago
Had our weekly Swift Return Puja for HE Tsem Rinpoche Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam
3rd August animals liberation activities done.Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam
2 months ago
3rd August animals liberation activities done.Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam
First Dorje Shugden puja for the month of Aug, 2025. Kechara Penang Study Group by Jacinta.
2 months ago
First Dorje Shugden puja for the month of Aug, 2025. Kechara Penang Study Group by Jacinta.
31st July evening had our weekly DORJE SHUGDEN Puja lead by Pastor Seng Piow.Kechara Study Group Sam
2 months ago
31st July evening had our weekly DORJE SHUGDEN Puja lead by Pastor Seng Piow.Kechara Study Group Sam
#Throwback Weekly Dorje Shudgen puja led by William and attended by faithful Penang members. Kechara Penang Study Group, reported by Siew Hong and uploaded to blog by Jacinta.
2 months ago
#Throwback Weekly Dorje Shudgen puja led by William and attended by faithful Penang members. Kechara Penang Study Group, reported by Siew Hong and uploaded to blog by Jacinta.
#throwbackmemories 26th July, 2025 puja packages being sponsored. May sponsors' wishes be fulfilled. Kechara Penang Study Group by Jacinta
2 months ago
#throwbackmemories 26th July, 2025 puja packages being sponsored. May sponsors' wishes be fulfilled. Kechara Penang Study Group by Jacinta
#Throwback 19th July 2025, Dorje Shugden puja cum Namasangiti recitation at 49, Jalan Seang Tek @ Kechara Penang Study Group by Jacinta
2 months ago
#Throwback 19th July 2025, Dorje Shugden puja cum Namasangiti recitation at 49, Jalan Seang Tek @ Kechara Penang Study Group by Jacinta
29th July evening Had our weekly Swift Return Puja for HE Tsem Rinpoche. Kechara Kuantan Study Group Sam
2 months ago
29th July evening Had our weekly Swift Return Puja for HE Tsem Rinpoche. Kechara Kuantan Study Group Sam
Kechara members were setting up the offering items on altar before the puja started in Ipoh today. (So Kin Hoe, KISG)
2 months ago
Kechara members were setting up the offering items on altar before the puja started in Ipoh today. (So Kin Hoe, KISG)
Dared Lim has offered tea on behalf of Kechara Ipoh Study Group prior to the start of our puja in Ipoh. (So Kin Hoe, KISG)
2 months ago
Dared Lim has offered tea on behalf of Kechara Ipoh Study Group prior to the start of our puja in Ipoh. (So Kin Hoe, KISG)
Through the blessings from His Eminence Kyabje Tsem Rinpoche, Kechara Ipoh Study Group has carried out Dorje Shugden puja in Ipoh today. (So Kin Hoe, Kechara Ipoh Study Group)
2 months ago
Through the blessings from His Eminence Kyabje Tsem Rinpoche, Kechara Ipoh Study Group has carried out Dorje Shugden puja in Ipoh today. (So Kin Hoe, Kechara Ipoh Study Group)
24th July Dharma Sharing and DORJE SHUGDEN Puja done Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam.
2 months ago
24th July Dharma Sharing and DORJE SHUGDEN Puja done Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam.
22nd July had our weekly Swift Return Puja for HE Tsem Rinpoche.Kechara Kuantan Study Group sam
2 months ago
22nd July had our weekly Swift Return Puja for HE Tsem Rinpoche.Kechara Kuantan Study Group sam
Kechara Penang Study Group completed Dorje Shugden puja and the recitation of Namasangiti. 12th July 2025 uploaded by Jacinta.
3 months ago
Kechara Penang Study Group completed Dorje Shugden puja and the recitation of Namasangiti. 12th July 2025 uploaded by Jacinta.
3 months ago
16 th July 2025.. sending groceries to two underprivileged families.. Kechara Kuantan Study Group.. Sam
3 months ago
16 th July 2025.. sending groceries to two underprivileged families.. Kechara Kuantan Study Group.. Sam
15th July Had our weekly Swift Return Puja for HE Tsem Rinpoche.Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam .
3 months ago
15th July Had our weekly Swift Return Puja for HE Tsem Rinpoche.Kechara Kuantan Study Group by Sam .
Releasing fishes,birds and fishing baits on a beautiful auspicious day 13 July 2025.Kechara Study Group Sam
3 months ago
Releasing fishes,birds and fishing baits on a beautiful auspicious day 13 July 2025.Kechara Study Group Sam
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