Thanks Martin Bosnev (aminos)
What caring and informative comments by Mr Martin Bosnev. He commented on my post: MAKE IT SIMPLE.
I wanted to include it here(below) because it’s very helpful information. If Martin has more of such information, I would appreciate it so much if he sends them to me and I will post it up here as a continuation. It will give knowledge on how to be a healthy person. And we don’t have to listen to excuses like my body NEEDS the meat… Thank you so very much Martin for taking the time and writing. I appreciate this so much.
Tsem Rinpoche
From Martin Bosnev 2011/03/15 at 3:10 am
Dear Rinpoche,
I want to share my very little experience with vegetarianism. I found that eating mock meat or soya meat is crucial for me if I want to feel satiated and be vegetarian long term. I feel great since I eat soya meat. Once upon a time I did the mistake to replace the meat in the food with eggs and milk products – but I was constantly hungry and overeating and as a result I gained a lot of weight. I was gaining 2 kg each month as a result of wrong diet (diet with very little essential amino acids). Now my weight is much more stable as a result of eating soya meat which contains 60% of proteins.
I think many people are reluctant to become vegetarian because they feel need for meat – but the reason is that they just need proteins(with essential amino acids) and they SIMPLY DON’T KNOW THAT. I hope many people will read this and start to eat a more reasonable vegetarian(vegan) diet.
Every recipe with meat can be done with that soya meat (and why not gluten meat – I never had the chance to try it) – it only needs some more spices. The end result is very tasty and you don’t feel lack of meat at all.
My family got fascinated by some soya meat dishes and we started to eat them regularly instead of meat (they still haven’t give up the meat completely). But I want to say that eating mock meat can be very tasty if it is prepared well !!
I hear that some people take liquid synthetic essential amino acids or Whey Protein powder in the form of smoothies – in order to have a healthy vegan diet – so this also is a solution! I hope this info can help to some beginners vegetarians and vegans! Best regards,
Martin
From Martin Bosnev March 15, 2011 at 3:19 am
I mean: by eating meat substitutes or whey protein smoothies or synthetic amino acids (not amino acids extracted from meat which would be the same as eating meat) – you can avoid any meat cravings – once and for all !!!
From Martin Bosnev 2011/03/15 at 4:08 pm
Dear Rinpoche,
thank you very much for your encouraging words. I forgot to mention one important thing regarding the amino acids: their dose is very important because they must be processed in the liver and if you take more of them this will hamper its function. Health experts say that normal people should not eat more than 1 gram per kg of body mass proteins in order to stay healthy as this may impair the kidneys!!! EATING TOO MUCH PROTEIN CAN DAMAGE THE KIDNEYS – and I think people should know that! Many health experts think that eating less proteins is good(less than 1 gr/kg of body weight) but in such case you may feel craving for them – so I think people should find the balance and see how they feel with their diet.
If a person takes too little proteins (like Milarepa did with his diet) this can lead to significant loss of muscle mass(which is evident in many raw vegans). If we want to help physically the sentient beings and be socially acceptable we need our muscles in the modern times IMHO.
Thank you very much!
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Thank you for the informative sharing. There are plenty of health benefits that comes with the virtue of being vegetarian. Not only does vegetarianism meets all one’s nutrient needs, it promotes less health risks that come with eating meat. The necessity to maintain a balanced diet remains after becoming vegetarian for healthier lifestyle.
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Reading this old post and all those comments gives us great knowledge where many of us might not know. Martin and Rinpoche had shared useful information for us to begin as vegetarian, healthy diets to go on.
Thank you Rinpoche for this sharing.
Have always love vegetarian food and going vegetarian. Just feel so clean even after a meal. I dont know why but I do not line “Mock meat that are made from flour and gluten” I love the mock mutton though cos of its texture. Friends said to me that they can got no strength if they go vegetarian. I remember a vegetarin fast food joint next to mustafa departmental store in Singaproe that gives a good description and charateristic of carniverious animial and herbiverious animals and man is suppose to be herbiverous and even elephants have great strength even they are herbiverous and eat meat for strength is just an excuse. I love salads, mushrooms and fermented beans and beans are they one that gives your body the amino acids.
In everything we do, there is positive and negative effects due to the nature of our existence. It is 100% correct you don’t eat meat. HH the Dalai Lama, the highest authority within Tibetan Buddhism recommends we do not eat meat, so that is all we need to remember. Buddha said, we should not lie, or get attached to drinking, singing, dancing, intimacies,entertainments and that we should spend our energies to become enlightened. Are we doing all die and not just the meat part?? People tend to pick what is convenient from the Buddha’s teachings to suit themselves. If we are going to follow Buddha’s teachings or quote, we may ask are you following everything Buddha says? If you are not, then rejoice when others follow the best they can and as much as they can. Since it is the right path for 21st century Buddhists to follow the no meat path, let’s do it. We have so much variety of food. Let’s eat the no meat diet and get on with our practice and basically compassionately go passed the criticisms. It is very simple, do not kill. So hence animals will not die in front of you to eat them…There is no good karma in eating meat..full stop, but definitely there is good karma refraining from eat. Many of the tantras when engaged in the practice prohibit meat as taught by Vajradhara. Many rituals we do in the great Monasteries prohibit meat so the rituals are more effective…..Many who are not monks or not living in the monasteries would never understand that. Reading from books, net or from dharma centres would never be the same as in the monastery. Again, eating meat does not gather good merits for our spiritual practice, avoiding does. Listen to some of wonderful Tenzin Palmo’s views on not eating meat. She is the great yogini who meditated for the longest time in the mountains.TR
This is also important information on proteins:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_(nutrient)
please do read. I suggest people make a bit of research in internet on the topics – this can help them.
It is important to cite this:
According to US & Canadian Dietary Reference Intake guidelines, women aged 19–70 need to consume 46 grams of protein per day, while men aged 19–70 need to consume 56 grams of protein per day to avoid a deficiency. The American and Canadian guidelines recommend a daily protein dietary allowance, measured as intake per kilogram body weight, is 0.8 g/kg.
It seems eating vegetables and eating animals are both bad, in that case cut one out completely. Why do both. Our karmic ripening makes us take rebirth always in situations that we cannot avoid all situational karma as a natural by product. But we have a choice to make it less. No matter what we do or how we exist at our ordinary levels, we will accummulate negative karma. So we have to choose conscioiusly to lessen them. His Holiness Dalai Lama, many Tulkus/Geshes/monks in Gaden tells us go vegetarian. The beautiful Master Thich Nhat Hanh and the sacred Nun Rev Chen Yen of Taiwan (http://tw.tzuchi.org/en/index.php? ) with hundreds of centres around the world and the whole accomplished Mahayana Buddhism of China forbids meat.The current Karmapa banned all meats in the Monasteries. Before it was meat and vegetables/rice. Now no more meat. The trend is no meat.
I may have people object, but that is ok, as a Buddhist teacher for the rest of my life I will advocate a no meat diet, produce books, blog posts, works and inspirational examples toward Vegetarianism. If that lifestyle offends/angers others or they feel their spirituality is being put down because of that, I do apologize. But that is not my intent, but it is their perceptions speaking or their perceptions of my motivation for speaking about no meat..If it really upsets them, then they don’t have to visit my posts, my writings and my ideas…LOL…simple as that… In this day and age, when you say things ppl like, then they praise you as a great person, great Rinpoche, great teacher, if you say something slightly off, no matter how they ‘liked’ you in the past, it changes. It’s reflective of the times and dynamics of this day and age. As my guru says, if you practice/teach dharma these days, you become a white crow. LOL..
Make it simple, if you have to eat vegetables/grains/fruits, grow it yourself. And that follows the same for meat, if u savour flesh so much, then raise and kill the animal yourself. Don’t indirectly let other ppl collect the karma for you so you can eat or don’t eat at all…join the formless realms or go to the god realms…
I need to get more balance into my diet as a vegetarian as I’ve gained a lot of weight since going without meat. This is helpful, thank you.
When i switched my diet to vegetarian, i did it cold turkey. And ended up having instant noodles for dinner for 6 mths. I had belittled the power of the internet and the avail veg recipes then. LOL! Learned it the hard way.
Dear Grace, how hardorking and determined of you to go 6 months with just instant noodles. It’s worth it for the animals and your own karma. Congratulations. Please see the posts I have on veg recipes. I have many. I am coming out with a Veg Recipe book very soon….TR
Dear Rinpoche,
thank you very much for your encouraging words. I forgot to mention one important thing regarding the amino acids: their dose is very important because they must be processed in the liver and if you take more of them this will hamper its function. Health experts say that normal people should not eat more than 1 gram per kg of body mass proteins in order to stay healthy as this may impare the kidneys!!! EATING TOO MUCH PROTEIN CAN DAMAGE THE KIDNEYS – and I think people should know that! Many health experts think that eating less proteins is good(less than 1 gr/kg of body weight) but in such case you may feel craving for them – so I think people should find the balance and see how they feel with their diet.
If a person takes too little proteins (like Milarepa did with his diet) this can lead to significant loss of muscule mass(whisch is evident in many raw vegans). If we want to help physically the sentient beings and be socially acceptable we need our muscles in the modern times imho.
Thank you very much!
@Josh – I don’t have “strong desire to help his fellow Bulgarians receive Holy Dharma in their own language!” and I don’t know what makes you to think like that. Every Bulgairan can access the Internet and find dharma if he/she wants – so I don’t have such a mission.
All the best,
P.S.Please erase the previous reply as it has a typo.
Very nice advice!
Ever since i became vegetarian (I think about a month plus now), i actually lost some weight but i know it’s from the loss of muscle mass.
I didn’t have problem with cravings, the problem was more on physically, I feel the difference (as in energy level etc)… but i don’t mind loosing some muscles for the chickens… lol
The protein shake sounds like a great idea! I can actually delete eggs off my menu by taking a protein drink =)
Looks like i’m going shopping this weekend hehe…
Wonderful source of beginner information Martin.
Martin is so special… It probably took him longer to write his excellent English so well, as he is a Bulgarian. He came to Kechara over the internet with a strong desire to help his fellow Bulgarians receive Holy Dharma in their own language!
Yes Martin, since I have known you for 4 months or so I can see clearly he is a very honorable, gentle man.
Now he’s back with some tips that definitely shed some light on my personal situation.
By the way, everyone, (good news) My mom and sister don’t oppose my Soya burgers, they prefer them! So I can begin helping my MOTHER to get off the meat diet. I will use some of this information to help me achieve that goal. I’m coming for you, Mom, your ignorance will be lifted away because I know your compassion is too strong to run from the light… sigh…