Ji Gong – The Crazy Monk of China

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Ji Gong, the Chinese mahasiddha

Ji Gong, the Chinese mahasiddha

(By Tsem Rinpoche and Pastor David)

The 11th Century Chinese monk Daoji is commonly known by the name Ji Gong. He was a Chan Buddhist monk of the Southern Song Dynasty in ancient China. He was born with the name of Li Xiuyuan. Daoji was also known by the name Hu Yin which meant ‘Recluse from the Lake’ and Elder Fang Yuan, ‘Squared Circle’.

The image of Ji Gong is romanticised as a dishevelled monk wearing a monk’s hat emblazoned with the Chinese character ‘Buddha’ while carrying a worn-out reed fan in one hand and a wine gourd in the other. After his passing, Ji Gong became somewhat of a folk hero and minor deity in Chinese Taoist folk religion and later became the Buddhist figure that he is known as today. He is frequently mentioned in Chinese folktales, koans (Chan Buddhist parables) and is sometimes invoked by temple mediums to assist in people’s affairs.

Mahasiddhas are great yogis who engaged in tantric practices and attained great realisations

Mahasiddhas are great yogis who engaged in tantric practices and attained great realisations

Ji Gong is said to have possessed supernatural powers that arose due to his spiritual attainments. He would often aid the poor with his abilities and stand up to injustices inflicted upon the downtrodden. However, he was also known for his wild and eccentric behavior, especially for his love of alcohol and meat which were considered sacrilegious amongst the Buddhist clergy of his time. This is consistent with the tantric tradition of Buddhism.

Although tantra never really gained mainstream acceptance in China, many aspects of Ji Gong’s life seem to be consistent with that of a great tantric adept – a mahasiddha. The tradition of mahasiddhas arose in India during the later period of Buddhism when great practitioners led the life of wandering yogins who engaged in tantric sadhanas at charnel grounds and achieved great realisations. These itinerant yogins are frequently characterised by their often-controversial behaviour of drinking alcohol, eating meat and so forth.

As far as Ji Gong is concerned, there is no evidence to suggest that he ever received tantric transmissions or ever practiced tantric sadhanas. Nonetheless, his behaviour has all the hallmarks of a mahasiddha. This is probably due to the fact that his mahasiddha-like behaviour was because he operated from the ultimate truth. This is in contrast with the rest of us, who operate from the standpoint of conventional truth.

Conventional truth focuses mainly on the ordinary matters of daily lives, which are centred on our ego and attachment. In Buddhism, there are many conventional truths and they differ according to our background, upbringing and experience. People hang on to these truths but, in reality, they have no real concrete basis as they are impermanent and are based on values we project on them. On the other hand, the ultimate truth is singular and based upon the nature of reality, which is that all things are free of inherent existence. In Buddhism, this is the highest wisdom and the ultimate truth.

One can achieve this view of the ultimate truth through the tantric path or through other methods such as the beautiful Zen/Chan tradition of Buddhism. Hence, those of us with the conventional view would perceive a great practitioner’s behaviour as controversial or crazy, since we perceive his actions based on our conventional perception and our limited view. The mahasiddha example and explanation is used not so much as to suggest Ji Gong was a tantric practitioner but to shed light on the meaning of his controversial actions.

 

The Life of Ji Gong

Ji Gong’s real name was Li Xiuyuan and he was born to a retired military strategist, Li Maochun. Before he was born, a Feng Shui master told his parents that they did not have the fortune to have children. Distraught from this revelation, the parents embarked on a pilgrimage to various temples.

A mural painting at Lingyin temple that illustrates the ordination of Daoji (Ji Gong)

A mural painting at Lingyin temple that illustrates the ordination of Daoji (Ji Gong)

While the parents-to-be were praying and making offerings at a temple which had a prayer hall to 500 Arhats, a statue of the Arhat Taming Dragon fell off the altar on its own accord. The mother was later found to be pregnant and she recalled the incident of the falling statue to mean that her unborn child was, in reality, the incarnation of the Arhat Taming Dragon.

A lively statue of the Arhat Taming Dragon

A lively statue of the Arhat Taming Dragon

In his youth, Ji Gong led a comfortable life until the untimely demise of his parents when he was 18. From then on, Li was sent to Hangzhou and was ordained as a monk at Lingyin Temple. He studied at the feet of the great Vinaya master Huiyuan and was given the monastic name of Daoji. Unlike many of his peers in the monastery, Daoji did not always adhere to the traditional monastic code of conduct. Somehow, he developed a penchant for eating meat and drinking wine while his robes were often dirty and tattered due to his constant travelling. He was also often seen stumbling as he walked because he was highly intoxicated.

It was due to his unrestrained behaviour that he created uproar in the temple. Some of the monks called for him to be expelled. His teacher somehow knew who he was and defended him by saying, “The Gate of Buddhism is so vast! Why is this crazy monk not forgiven?” Therefore, the monks were frustrated and resorted to calling him ‘Crazy Monk’. After his teacher passed away, he was forced to move to Jingci Temple.

Daoji however, had a good heart and was always on the lookout to assist and extend a helping hand to ordinary folks. There are many accounts of him healing the sick and fighting against injustice inflicted on the downtrodden. Unfortunately, such behaviour was at odds with what was expected of a monk. The monks at his temple were bewildered and frustrated with his behaviour and the elders finally decided to expel Daoji from the monastery. From then on, Daoji wandered from place to place and always strove to help those he met.

Ji Gong entered Jingci Monastery after the passing of his teacher, the Abbot Huiyuan

Ji Gong entered Jingci Monastery after the passing of his teacher, the Abbot Huiyuan

It is said that while engaging in his meditations, Daoji attained supernatural powers due to his practice. Eventually, people began to recognise the fact that his eccentric, benevolent nature was because he was actually an incarnation of a bodhisattva, or even an emanation of an arhat. Eventually, he became widely recognised by many people to be the incarnation of the Arhat Taming Dragon, one of the 18 Arhats, a Chinese equivalent of the 16 Arhats. Daoji passed away at Jingci Monastery in the year 1207. It was said that he left this verse before he passed away:

Sixty years’ life in disorder
From east to west, I fight always
Today, I review and return
All is same as those before

His remains were interred in Running Tiger Spring Area and a special monastery named Jigong Tayuan was founded in honour of the memory people had of this great master.

 

The Incredible Tales of Ji Gong

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The following are a few stories told of Ji Gong that are immortalised in books, songs, poetry, plays and artwork. Each unique story reveals an aspect of Ji Gong’s eccentric manner in which he delivers the teachings and benefits people. Hence, it is no surprise how intertwined Ji Gong is with traditional Chinese culture.

 

The Buddha Statue

Ji Gong always sought to teach people not to jump to conclusions based on external appearances. On one occasion, Ji Gong and his students were trying to stay warm during a particularly wintery night.

JiGong-13The cold was so bad that Ji Gong had to dismantle the wooden altar they used for worship and start a fire out of it. One of his students was horrified and cried out, “What are you doing? That’s our sacred altar!” Then Ji Gong took the statue of the Buddha and chopped it into two pieces. The student exclaimed, “You are cutting the Buddha! Don’t do that!” Ji Gong answered, “This statue is not the Buddha himself. This is just a piece of wood.”

In doing so, he wanted to teach his students how to let go of attachment and that what really matters is our true intent at heart. Wood decays over time but compassion is timeless and it touches people at the deepest level. It was not important to Ji Gong whether or not a person appeared to have great virtue because appearances meant nothing to him. He was only interested in the qualities of one’s heart.

 

Summoning Logs from a Well

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Ji Gong in Xiyuan Temple, Suzhou, China

While he was living at Jingci Temple, Ji Gong was appointed as the scribe monk of the temple. On one occasion, a fire broke out and destroyed the main prayer hall of the temple. It was then that the abbot turned to him to procure large quantities of wood for restoration works.

Instead of searching for suppliers, Ji Gong slept for three days because he was intoxicated. Upon waking, he shouted at the monks, “The wood is here, take it from the well!” Large logs were miraculously transported into the well of the temple continuously until there were enough logs for rebuilding the prayer hall. These days, there is a Shenmu Well in Jingci Temple that is purportedly the very same well.

 

Stopping a Landslide

This story highlights Ji Gong’s creative manner in which he saves people from imminent danger. On one occasion, Ji Gong was walking towards Lingyin Temple when he suddenly felt a jolt right in his heart. Immediately he knew something was amiss so he used his clairvoyance to investigate. He realised that a landslide was about to come crashing down the side of a mountain onto the nearby village.

Alarmed at what he saw, Ji Gong began shouting to the townspeople and screaming for them to run for their lives. But the people just laughed and dismissed him as “the crazy old monk” who was drunk as usual and screamed for no apparent reason. Ji Gong realised he was not taken seriously and so he looked around and spotted a wedding procession passing through the village. This gave him an idea. He barged into the procession and snatched the bride, threw her over his shoulders and ran down the road out of town.

This caught everybody by surprise and the worried groom and wedding guests screamed for everyone to chase after the kidnapper. Soon, the entire village was chasing after them. As soon as the maddening crowd ran past the village gates, a loud crash was heard behind them. Everything behind them came down in a huge crash. Huge rocks came crashing down the side of the mountain, shattering rooftops and flattening buildings in an instant.

Ji Gong turned around and he noticed that back in the village, a little girl had been left behind and a gigantic boulder was thundering towards her. He immediately lifted his palm at the boulder and it fell aside. Today this hill is known as Hangzhou’s “Flying Peak” and it has since become a tourist attraction. In fact, visitors today can see the imprint of a hand sunk into the base of the rock bearing testament to Ji Gong’s psychic abilities.

 

Saving a Suicidal Old Man

On another occasion, Ji Gong came across an old man who was on the verge of hanging himself from a tree. The man tied a noose to a branch and was just about to place his head through it when suddenly he saw Ji Gong who was dressed in rags come by. Ji Gong was muttering to himself, “Die! Die! Everything is over after I am dead. Dying is better than living. I will hang myself now.” Ji Gong had a noose in hand and was just about to hang himself just next to the old man at the very same tree.

JiGong-10This puzzled the old man and he asked Ji Gong why a monk would want to commit suicide. Ji Gong explained that he was commissioned to raise money for the monastery’s renovation plans. He had begged for three years and accumulated a sizeable amount but on his way back to the monastery, he stopped by a bar, got drunk and was robbed of all the money. He was embarrassed and dare not return to the monastery so he decided to end his life here. The old man easily believed his story and said, “Don’t worry, I happen to have some money left, which is of no use to me now.”

He gave Ji Gong five pieces of silver, which was all the money he had. Ji Gong took the silver and said, “Your silver does not shine as much as what I used to have but I will take them.” So he took the money and walked away with a big smile. Giving away his money did not change a thing for the old man so he continued his plans to hang himself. But Ji Gong returned not long after and the old man initially thought that the monk had returned to thank him for the money.

But Ji Gong said, “I see you’ve got some nice clothes there. Why don’t you give that to me so you can nakedly leave this world just as you nakedly came?” The old man was stunned with the monk’s audacity and he looked up to the sky and sighed. He said, “Why is it so hard to die as it is to live? How can I end my misery?”

Ji Gong said, “Look, after your death, the wild dogs will come to tear you up and your nice clothes would be wasted. But if you give it to me now, I will make good use of it.” Ji Gong went on to tease and play with the desperate man until the latter became amused and started to laugh along with Ji Gong. The old man soon found this eccentric monk quite friendly and extremely entertaining. He started to open his heart and told Ji Gong his tragic story about how he lost his daughter. Soon, he had a change of heart and no longer wanted to commit suicide. Ji Gong eventually helped him to look for his daughter, and the story had a happy ending.

Ji Gong – The Crazy Monk of China

Ji Gong – The Crazy Monk of China

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  1. Wan Wai Meng on Dec 11, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    Thank you for this story, very impressed with Ji Gong, who appears to transcends forms of buddhism, and cut right to the heart of things. My favourite story was of taking apart the altar so he and his students could stay warm, and not freeze to death.

  2. Vivian Ong on Nov 28, 2016 at 12:33 am

    Thank you Pastor David for sharing this article of Ji Gong. After reading this article only I realize the attainments that Ji Gong has and is a great mahasiddha. What other people think of him as a crazy monk does not stop him from helping people in his own special ways.

    With folded palms,
    Vivian

  3. Justin Cheah on Nov 8, 2016 at 11:58 pm

    Ji Gong is one of my favourite heroes during my childhood. It was then that i collected most imprints about Buddhism at my an early age by watching his series. Ji Gong taught be to be compassion and be always there to help someone. I feel the stories are nice to educate children from their young age to be exposed to Dharma, Compassion and Tantra. Ji Gong have a huge influence on small kids. Thank you Pastor David for sharing.

  4. TekLee on Oct 21, 2016 at 1:06 am

    Thank you Pastor David for sharing Ji Gong story. I read about Ji Gong stories when I was a kid, and watched his drama series. I like Ji Gong a lot. Especially his super natural power to help people and animal. However after reading this article, it let me know more about Ji Gong, like, there is no evidence to prove that is received tantric transmission, but his behaviour showed that he is a mahasiddha. This reminded me of crazy wisdom, Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche that Pastor Han Nee told me. He did all sorts of worldly behaviour, but in the end, he brought Tibetan Buddhism to the west during that degenerated age in that era.
    I like the part “The Buddha Statue” in this article, it greatly reminded me everything we see from out side is only a form, a form that appear to people, what really matters is our true intent at heart. The true qualities is what that really matters in the end. Just like Rinpoche told us, we can keep learning Dharma, but applying it is the real transformation.
    Thank you again Pastor David for the article. With folded hands _/\_

  5. June Kang on Oct 16, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    The more I read on the story of Mahsiddhas, the more I can feel the compassion of the Buddha to save and liberate us. Buddha will be emanated in any form just to help us free from samsara world.
    To save the sentient being, Ji Gong with his wisdom to spread the Dharma in unconventional way. He was known for helping those that in need and sometimes even saving their lives. I like to read his story since I was small child, like to see him using his wisdom to help and save people. At one time I wish I have his wisdom. When I grown up I forgotten all this.

    Just like the story of stopping a Landslide that normal people will not think of snatched the bride and ran down the rod out of town to save peoples life, because to us this is a crazy way to do it. However this is actually the best way at that moment. This is the wisdom and compassion of the Buddha.

    However sad to say that some peoples don’t pay attention of his kindness and wisdom but only focus on a Buddhist monk who eat meat and drink alcohol and use this as an excuse to eat meat and drink alcohol also.

    Also, Ji Gong remind me the first time I read the story Chögyam Trungpa, I also asked why he behave like that, he openly smoked, drank, and had intimate relations with students . But this is how Chögyam Trungpa bringing Tibetan Buddhism to the west with his “ Crazy Wisdom”. And his reincarnation has been recognised. I like what he said this
    “Becoming “awake” involves seeing our confusion more clearly.”

    Thank you Pastor David for the wonderful post.

  6. Pema Thinley on Oct 15, 2016 at 2:43 am

    Amazing story….. Amazing how the realised beings break our wrong perceptions. It reminds me of the story of The Divine Madman. They appear crazy to us because we have been always self-centered and perceived through that same lens. Amaing _()_

    Thank you lah

  7. Pastor Antoinette on Oct 15, 2016 at 12:09 am

    The crazy old monk stories seem to be very popular as i saw in the comments below. His life is amazing, starting from his birth to parents who were told not to have a child. How compassionate and wise Ji Gong was becomes obvious by reading the stories.

    It is not what we see on the outside that makes the difference. Our motive and selfless action is much more important. This was true at Ji Gong’s time and it is still the same today.

    Thank you Pastor David for sharing about the Crazy and Wise Monk of China.

  8. nicholas on Oct 14, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    A true Boddhisatva will often return to samsara in different form to benefit people. In this case I believe Ji Gong manifest in such form to help many people with his crazy wisdom. We can’t really judge someone with our naked eye but we can see their action resulted in the ultimate result. This type of great wisdom being will have odd or rather crazy in our term in performing their action to help people. I know it sound weird but I believe they know what they are doing and I feel his behaviour in such is to get close to people or helping people in a subtle way.

  9. shelly tai on Oct 14, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche and Pastor David for sharing this story with us. I have come across his story when I was young , I remember one very significants is he always drunk and he act very out of norm, is kind of funny to watch and I like it especially he will help whoever in danger or being treated unfairly he is like hero . In those day when I watch it is more for entertainment but if think back this what some of the highly attain master will act out of conventional way because our normal mind will perceive as wrong and is not like that so after knowing the Dharma that we know this is because our wrong perception toward the thing we think must be like this and cannot be different so is our wrong perception there is nothing wrong with acting different from the norm the most important is correct motivation.

  10. Alice Tay on Oct 13, 2016 at 8:40 pm

    I came across about Ji Gong’s story since I was very young age at about 7 or 8. Ji Gong is very well known with his dirty robes, eating meat and drinking wine. However, many people believed that Ji Gong has supernatural powers and with his kindness and compassion, he would stand up and help the poor or the misfortune group.

    Thank you Rinpoche and Pastor David sharing this interesting article and let me have further thoughts about Ji Gong’s often-controversial behaviour of drinking alcohol, eating meat and so forth which is because of he operated out from the conventional truth in order to achieve the ultimate truth.

  11. Joy on Oct 11, 2016 at 3:37 am

    Thank you Pastor David for writing this blog article of one of the many Chinese folktales told as we were growing up. There were even a hit Hong Kong series which tells of how Ji Gong help others.

    He is no doubt a mahasiddha who like you said were more keen and operated on the ultimate truth! And I guess that was what captivated and attracted me and my sister to watch the series even though it was in Chinese and we did not understand it (thank goodness there were subtitles). You could say that he was the first Buddhist monk I ever came across (on TV) and really liked his unconventional style. In the hit series it tells of how he helps and always stand up for the destitute and those who were weaker.

    So yes I very much believed that he was an Bodhisattva. I guess I’ve always like anything “unconventional” and his tales and stories were. And like you said he was not interested in how others perceived him, instead about developing and being compassionate. In a funny little way Ji Gong kinda reminds me of our Rinpoche’s unconventional skillful methods in teaching us Dharma and introducing Dharma to many of us, minus the dirty clothes. Thanks to your article now will come to know a little bit more about his background and how he became a monk.

  12. Paul Yap on Oct 9, 2016 at 10:35 am

    The legend of Ji Gong is always fascinating and very popular in every generations. The stories and tales of Ji Gong has been made into numerous movies, i think because Ji Gong has successfully show his compassion, kindness and miraculous power in helping and saving life, especially among the poor and needy, Ji Gong is like the western version of Robin Hood but with dharma knowledge and attainment. I like the story of Ji Gong very much. Ji Gong symbolised hope and kindness of dharma to the poor and underprivileged, the spirit of Ji Gong will continue to survive thru time cos nothing can destroyed that.

  13. Darren on Oct 6, 2016 at 6:39 pm

    Thank you Pastor David for the interesting article.

  14. Freon Tee on Oct 5, 2016 at 6:29 pm

    I like the story of Ji Gong since young. His unconventional of helping people was very much impressive. After i read story about Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche, I thought both of them are very much the same. They have the crazy wisdom and both give dharma to people which break the point of view at that time.

    Ji Gong was born to a rich family and he is a very learned scholar. He was force to get married with a girl which he ran away at the nite of his wedding and became a monk. Monk life was never easy for Ji Gong, he was “bullied” all the time by the senior of the monastery, and even live life like a beggar. Even tho, he live in hard life, poor and homeless most of the time, but, he was always seem happy and have wisdom to help many people who needed him. He always gave some dharma to the person after he helps them.
    Ji Gong was quite proficient in the medicine and saved many people from death. He was known to give the pill that save life from rubbing his body’s “dust” .
    His story is very inspiring and he is known to be the reincarnation of the Arhat. I really like his story very much.

    Thank you Pastor David for this story. Nice one

  15. Lin Mun on Oct 4, 2016 at 10:45 pm

    This is a very interesting article on Ji Gong. I only knew about Ji Gong when I watched the HK drama series. Thought it was just a creation for the drama and never thought that this person really exist. I love that drama series.

    Ji Gong unconventional method in practising dharma may be portrayed to be crazy but I think it is because we always set a fixed expectation in everything and when it does not match to our expectation, then he is not accepted. What Ji Gong has done is to actually break out mindset to accept differences.

    Thank you Pastor David for sharing.

  16. Wei Theng on Oct 4, 2016 at 9:51 pm

    Thank you Pastor David for this interesting article on Ji Gong.

    Since young I love to watch the series of Ji Gong & stories of Ji Gong as I find that he always helping others and always teaches the bad guy a lesson. To me, he is a hero. 🙂

    Although he looks sloppy & appears to be crazy and always do things out of the norm, he is very kind and extended his helps always especially towards unfairness treatment.

    He also very wise and always says things that to prompt us to check out on our ego & attachment and always have a joyous smile!

    Ji Gong is one of my favourite movies & after reading this article, I can’t help but to google for his song again. 😛

    Here you are to share with all of you the Ji Gong song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1TK0Dj93o8

    Thanks again Pastor David! This really brings back all my great memories.

  17. Adeline Tan on Oct 4, 2016 at 1:46 am

    I have read Ji Gong comic books when i was very young,(in primary school),at that time i only thought that crazy drunken monk, one hand held the wine gourd and the other holding a worn out reed fan liked to show off his magic powers like the folktales. He can heal people miraculously, fighting against injustice and abilities to help the poor.All the stories were very entertaining and heartwarming in the end, without knowing that he is a mahasiddha, the re-incarnation of the ArhatTaming Dragon.
    I remembered quite some times back my ex-colleague told me his daughter of less than 2 years old sometimes has no apparent reasons can cry all night and almost every night, he went to consult the medium who took trance in Ji Gong and he brought
    some guinnese stout as offering there and after the trance, he then brought back some blessed water for his daughter to drink and it worked. In another case,my friend has chronic hands and wrists problems that doctor’s treatment is no longer effective she went to the medium who is a Taiwanese lady in her 50s stays near her house who take trance in Ji Gong every Saturday night for 2, 3 Saturdays, during the trance the medium massaged her hands and wrists with some cream , then her problems solved. As i can see the Ji Gong trance is still popular in some parts in our country. Thank you Pastor David for sharing this interesting article.

  18. Jason on Oct 3, 2016 at 2:26 am

    This is very interesting story about Ji Gong(济公).As I remembered,some people address Ji Gong Huo Fo(济公活佛)meant he is incarnation.After I read Pastor David’s article, now I know Ji Gong is incarnation of Arhat Taming Dragon.
    When I was younger age, I remembered that many people offered beer to Ji Gong to thanks Ji Gong helped them to overcome some difficulty or hardship in their live. Ji Gong always use his worn-out fan to touch people’s sickness part as blessing purpose.
    Ji Gong teach people less attachment to anythings in samsara while cultivate inner quality like compassion which will timeless benefit others. I did like the skillful means of Ji Gong to save people life.
    Thanks Pastor David for sharing Ji Gong’s story.

    Jason

  19. Datuk May on Oct 2, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    Thank you, Pastor David, for this article of Ji Gong, the Crazy Monk of China. I really liked reading the following:

    ““You are cutting the Buddha! Don’t do that!” Ji Gong answered, “This statue is not the Buddha himself. This is just a piece of wood.”

    In doing so, he wanted to teach his students how to let go of attachment and that what really matters is our true intent at heart. ”

    I learnt from the above is that what we perceive are of no inherent value except for our perception and attachments to physical material things. However, sad to admit at my level, to be able to really be disrespectful to a Buddha statue is beyond me and that is all because I do not have the attainments to have such wisdom nor confidence to do so.

    Wonderful learning of emptiness and impermanence and that practise of the true meaning of Buddhism to have Bodhichitta and attainments is very clear.

  20. Pastor Han Nee on Oct 2, 2016 at 3:14 pm

    Thank you P David for this interesting article on Ji Gong. There must be a generation gap, for I had never heard about Ji Gong when I was growing up and even later.Nonetheless, his “crazy” or “controversial” behaviour and his total disregard for his physical appearance are not exactly shocking. They are very much in keeping with the unconventional behavior of the Indian Mahasiddhas that we read about in the blogpost “The 84 Mahasiddhas”. Mahasiddha Virupa, for instance, drank alcohol and ate meat(pigeons’ meat!)and had “women” visiting him in the monastery until the late hours of the morning!

    They are highly realised beings. More than that Ji Gong, like the other Mahasiddhas, is a Bodhisattva.His seeming disregard and flouting of conventions and conventional norms, does not detract from his kindness and sincere altruistic wish to help all beings. He was truly creative and skillful in his ways of aiding others- the way he got a whole village of people to leave their village before the massive landslide came down on them which would have killed them all, the way he thwarted an old man’s attempt to commit suicide.

    Like yogins of old, he was not daunted by any seeming punishment imposed on him nor any hardship he encountered.He lived truly like a free spirit,not bound by conventional ideas of what a home should be or where to rest his weary head.

    Thank you once more for this story. A beautiful way to remind us that it is the heart that counts and deeds that matter.

  21. Wah Ying on Oct 1, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    I watched quite some of Ji Gong’s movies and tv drama when I was young. He is a popular and famous figure in the Chinese culture. After watching those shows, what I can recall about Ji Gong is he is a monk with controversial behaviours – drink alcohol and eating meat. One of the damous phrase which always mentioned “wine and meat go into my stomach, while Buddha remains in my heart”..however many misundertood that vows are actually not that important..

    With Pastor David’s write up Ji Gong’s controversial behaviours and shed light on the meaning of his controversial actions, by explaining them from the perspective of ultimate truth and conventional truth. The story about making Buddha statue and altar as firewood and the wisdom words of Ji Gong is very good to explain the concepts. Thank you.

    • Pastor David Lai on Oct 1, 2016 at 11:59 pm

      Wah Ying,
      No, wows and commitments are VERY important for our spiritual practice for those of us who are trying to achieve attainments. Without vows, we cannot achieve attainments. However, for someone who had already achieved attainments, vows are not that important because that person had already achieved great attainments and the role of vows had been fulfilled. Most attained masters continue to hold their vows and commitments to be an example and to be able to pass it down to others. For Ji Gong, he showed a mahasiddha behaviour to get closer to ppl he interacted with but that does not mean we can do the same and get the same result because we don’t have his attainments.

  22. Uncle Eddie on Oct 1, 2016 at 3:50 pm

    Ji Gong was indeed an exceptionally, extraordinary and fearless Bodhisattva. A diety in a Chinese Taoist Folklore religion, he showed unwavering courage and great care to work for the general cause and benefits of all poor and desolate people. Always like to aid especially the poor, meek, old and the deserted. With whatever abilities and supernatural powers that he possessed, he stood up for the down-trodden and the devasted. Recognised by many people, he was said to be the incarnation of the Chinese Taoist Arhat, named Taming Dragon, one of the 18 arhats, a Chinese equivalent of the 16 arhats. Well known for his wild and eccentric behaviour, particular for his love for alcohol and meat, he was often seen stumbling as he walked, due to his intoxication! It was said that he passed away at Jingei Monastery in the year 1207, but, still vividly remembered and dearly loved by many till today. Om Mani Padme Hung.

  23. Fong on Oct 1, 2016 at 12:37 am

    Most of the Chinese in Malaysia are familiar with Ji Gong but may not know much about him. The many stories about Ji Gong is really interesting.

    What I found interesting was the correlation between Ji Gong and the Mahasiddhas of India. So, maybe tantra did make it’s way to China without it being fully recognized or known widely.

    Like most Malaysian born Chinese, I had my fair share of witnessing trances of Ji Gong and some vague stories about him. So, I found this article very interesting and intriguing.

    Thank you, Pastor David for a very interesting article.

    • Pastor David Lai on Oct 2, 2016 at 12:42 am

      I did discuss the subject of Tantra in China in the article. Tantra was transmitted in China but it did not take off and died out. The manner in which Ji Gong operated from is not that he is a tantric practitioner as there is no evidence that points in that direction. Rather it was Ji Gong’s own attainments and realization arising from his formal meditation practice. Attainments does not require tantric pratice to arise and can arise through Sutric prctices as well. However, it is a lot easier through the path of tantra.

  24. Samfoonheei on Sep 30, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    Thank you Pastor David Lai for this interesting article. Since young i always like to hear stories of Ji Gong, even watch TV show about him and would like to go to Ji Gong temples .That time i would not understand much but do as my parents told .But now after reading these article i begin to understand better. Ji Gong is said to have possessed supernatural powers that he would often help the poor or anyone who needed help with his abilities. In Taoist religion,Ji Gong is well known as today.I have seen a Taoist medium in trance as Ji Gong. I have heard many interesting accounts of him helping those who need his help. Ji Gong has a good, kind heart and appearance should not be judge after all.Never judge a person by appearance…there is a quote what is important is inside..
    Thanks again …i do really enjoyed reading Ji Gong biography.and a reminder for us .. our mindset and motivation to benefit people when practicing Dharma.

  25. Sofi on Sep 30, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    Ji Gong really shows us how the Bodhisattva works unconventionally to help us. From the moment he took birth, he helps his parents fulfil their wishes and went on to help others, trying to open their seed of Bodhicitta nature and to transform their ignorance. As So Kin Hoe had aptly described, Ji Gong lived his live as a teaching to others.

    I had loved to watch the Ji Kong series on television as a young kid and loved how he used his abilities to help others in times of need. He was unconventional and one could never expect what he would do next. To cure the sick, he would rub his armpits to form a dirt ball and ask the sick to eat. Of course, they will be repelled at first but having no choice, they ate and recovered. I guess this has parallel to our dharma path. We seek our Guru for cure to our worldly sickness and yet when we are given the practices, we become lazy until we realise there is no other way out of ignorance, then we practice and hopefully gain the mind transformation out of our misery.

    I once went for a trance session where Ji Kong would drink all sorts of alcholic drinks as the people offered and loved to challenge him to drink. No matter how much he drank under trance, after “Ji Kong” leaves, the medium is never drunk. Under trance, Ji Kong is very jovial and also rub his armpits for “medicine pill” to give to the sick. Quite fascinating to watch.

    Thank you Pastor David for this interesting article of our legendary Ji Kong who breaks the idea of conventional Arhats.

  26. Valentina Suhendra on Sep 30, 2016 at 2:33 pm

    Dear Pastor David,

    Thank you for the interesting and well-written article. I read about the story of Ji Gong when I was a child as a TV series so reading this story has brought up so many sweet memories of my dad and I watching TV together.

    Even as a child, I noticed that behind the drunkeness and dirty appearance, Ji Gong was very kind-hearted and that is the reason my dad and I were glued to the TV. I guess he wants me to understand that outer appearance may not be the most important.

    The story helps us to understand that we should not have projection of what a Mahasiddha should or should not be. In fact in all aspects of life, if we control our projection, we will be a much happier person.

    Valentina

  27. Kenn Lai on Sep 30, 2016 at 11:37 am

    Nice article Pastor David Lai and how about Bodhidharma(Dak mo)he originated from India who establish a Shaolin in China? Daoji is a compassionate buddha is like emmergency in needed.

  28. So Kin Hoe (KISG) on Sep 30, 2016 at 11:34 am

    Thank you Pastor David Lai for sharing the biography and stories of Ji Gong. The stories of Ji Gong have reminded me that we should not yearn to look good, feel comfortable, dress well or live in abundance when we practise Dharma and most importantly is our sincerity and purity of our mind and motivation to benefit people around us without hoping for any return.

    The physical appearance of Ji Gong has taught us about emptiness as everything will fade away at the time of our death. Ji Gong’s wild and eccentric behaviour indirectly reflect on how limited our minds work that we should not judge anyone based on the outer appearance without deeper understanding on the inner level, before drawing to a conclusion.

    May the stories of Ji Gong able to reach and help many people, who are in need of short Dharma teachings that can open up their minds to a higher level of understanding in the truth.

    • Kenn Lai on Sep 30, 2016 at 11:43 am

      NIce comment So Kin Hoe deeper understanding about Dharma towards any buddha is the word.

    • Pastor David Lai on Sep 30, 2016 at 8:41 pm

      Hi Kin Hoe,
      That’s very good but how I would see Ji Gong is that he is a Buddhist master who place no importance on appearances and on ordinary attachment. He rather be of benefit to others than to look good, feel comfortable, dress well or live in abundance. Why would he do that? He thinks like that because he had realize that all these things do not really make us happy and the little short term satisfaction and pleasure we get is false and does not last. He realize that these short term pleasures and happiness is really empty of inherent existence.

      He had realized this and that is why he operate from the ultimate truth and that is why he disregard ordinary social norms about meat and wine and how he interact with people. Hence, I don’t think he is asking people to give up dressing well, being comfortable, living in abundance and so forth. I think he is telling us that the promise that these things will bring you happiness is false. Hence, we focus more of our effort and time in Dharma and we juggle both in.

      • So Kin Hoe (KISG) on Oct 1, 2016 at 2:29 pm

        Thank you Pastor David Lai for sharing your further explanation about Ji Gong. I agree with you and what I would like to share is we should not increase our desire and attachments when we practice Dharma. Thanks

  29. Stella Cheang on Sep 30, 2016 at 11:19 am

    The stories of Ji Gong have always been my favorite since childhood. The stories are highly entertaining. Ji Gong exhibited unorthodox behavior in his time but well loved by many people after his passing because of his many deeds that brought justice and castigations to the ones who deserved them. Besides his supernatural abilities, Ji Gong was famous for his wisdom. Pastor David has kindly explained here that Ji Gong’s wisdom is the attainment in understanding the ultimate truth. And I really appreciate that now we have the many tales of Ji Gong to give us familiar examples to what is ultimate truth versus conventional truth, a topic that is relatively profound but important to understand fully. Thank you Pastor David for this article. It also gives me a chance to take a stroll down memory lane, and a reason to try locate my Mandarin version of The Legend of Ji Gong.

  30. Sharon Ong on Sep 30, 2016 at 11:05 am

    Some years back I had the opportunity to watch a medium take trance of Ji Gong. At that time I had no idea who Ji Gong was except that he is a beggar monk who helped people. I tried to research him but there wasn’t much about him in cyberspace at that time.

    During the trance, I noticed that he carried a torn fan, wore torn shoes and a rather large wooden mala. He was very friendly and was very jovial. His advice to me and the other people present at the trance was very logical and now that I think of it, is very Dharmic. One of the things I remember is that he mentioned to always help those beggars in the streets, to think of him whenever I encounter a beggar and to give the beggar some food and drinks. He added this… “who knows that beggar might be me.” At that time, this didn’t make much sense to me. But years later, after learning some Dharma, I think he was trying to tell me that Mahasiddhas and Buddhas can manifest amongst the most ordinary to actually help us in our practice.

    Thank you for your detailed and interesting article, I now know more about Ji Gong. Great write-up!

    • Pastor David Lai on Sep 30, 2016 at 8:59 pm

      That was a neat recount. Thank you. I have never met a Ji Gong medium but I heard that there are many and for some reason, he is a very popular deity to take trance of in the Chinese Buddhist/Taoist tradition. I like what he said about making offerings to beggars. Neat…

  31. gary foo on Sep 30, 2016 at 2:09 am

    Thank you Pastor David for the delightful stories of Ji Gong. Though I do not feel a specific affinity with this divine being I loved seeing the hong kong / taiwan series about him and his using his magical powers to help others. I would agree he is like a Mahasiddha. One story I remember clearly was him first barbecuing a pigeon and then chomping on it and looking like he really enjoyed his meat.. when another lay passerby chided him for being a monk and yet taking a life and enjoying meat..to which Ji Gong opened his mouth and miraculously a live pigeon flew out and he answered back ..who said i was eating meat..or something along the lines..:) Anyway to me he is definitely no ordinary being and I have also read about him bringing a person into hell to record the journey and teachings and interviews from the 18 courts and from there the book ‘Journey to the Underworld’was written for the benefit of mankind to practice dharma and not fall into the hell realms

    • Pastor David Lai on Sep 30, 2016 at 9:03 pm

      Gary,

      That’s a very neat story about Ji Gong. Kinda reminds me of the Mahasiddha Tilopa. He eats fish and had done something similar of reanimating dead fish he had eaten. He gave a teaching verse or two as he did that. By the way, Tilopa was Naropa’s Guru. Interesting similarity.

      • gary foo on Oct 1, 2016 at 12:27 am

        Thats an interesting point. Probably the divine beings loves using similar techniques to impart dharma at that time..same technique but used cross the globe by different divine beings but for one purpose 🙂

  32. Anne Ong on Sep 29, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    This is a very good story write up Pastor David. It’s simply meaningful,funny and entertaining. I have watched the story of Ji Gong on TVB drama on DVD many years ago,but i think the dvd version is quite different.Thank you Pastor David for this wonderful story to lift up my day! Keep it up! 🙂

  33. Pastor KH Ng on Sep 29, 2016 at 7:55 pm

    Thank You Pastor David.

    As a child I watched with fascination many movie that featured Ji Gong. He was always portrayed as fun loving “beggar” who ate meat; particularly he loved dog meat, and drank alcohol. He has super natural power and also helps the down trodden people who were victims of the rich and powerful.
    I always regarded Him to be a Buddha and not a deity because He showed wisdom that is beyond normal intelligence. Later, I read that he is a manifestation of Guan Yin, the Buddha of Compassion.

    Well, the world is not we it seem to be. The ultimate truth is to be strived for.

    • Pastor David Lai on Sep 29, 2016 at 8:29 pm

      You are welcomed Pastor KH. Ji Gong is one of these Chinese figures that every Chinese would know of, kinda like a cultural icon. For some reason, I was not really into him much when I was younger. I think I only read a little of his stories at illustrated comic books published by Asiapac a long time ago. In this comic and also of many other sources, they Ji Gong was the Arhat Taming Dragon that took rebirth and actually, this is really the first time, I have ever heard of Ji Gong as the emanation of Guan Yin. Nonetheless, I am not saying you are wrong, I am just acknowledging what you have read.

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    Why don’t we try to eat more vegetables instead of eating more animals. Vegetables are healthy too, you know! And do you also know that being vegetarian or vegan will not only make you become healthier, it will also make you feel more energetic.
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    Even when we don’t have the opportunity too witness those beautiful Buddha Statues, yet we are blessed merely by looking at it.
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One of our adorable Kechara Forest Retreat\'s doggies, Tara, happy and safe, and enjoying herself in front of Wisdom Hall which has been decorated for Chinese New Year
1 year ago
One of our adorable Kechara Forest Retreat's doggies, Tara, happy and safe, and enjoying herself in front of Wisdom Hall which has been decorated for Chinese New Year
Fragrant organic Thai basil harvested from our very own Kechara Forest Retreat farm!
1 year ago
Fragrant organic Thai basil harvested from our very own Kechara Forest Retreat farm!
On behalf of our Puja House team, Pastor Tat Ming receives food and drinks from Rinpoche. Rinpoche wanted to make sure the hardworking Puja House team are always taken care of.
1 year ago
On behalf of our Puja House team, Pastor Tat Ming receives food and drinks from Rinpoche. Rinpoche wanted to make sure the hardworking Puja House team are always taken care of.
By the time I heard about Luang Phor Thong, he was already very old, in his late 80s. When I heard about him, I immediately wanted to go and pay my respects to him. - http://bit.ly/LuangPhorThong
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By the time I heard about Luang Phor Thong, he was already very old, in his late 80s. When I heard about him, I immediately wanted to go and pay my respects to him. - http://bit.ly/LuangPhorThong
It\'s very nice to see volunteers helping maintain holy sites in Kechara Forest Retreat, it\'s very good for them. Cleaning Buddha statues is a very powerful and effective way of purifying body karma.
1 year ago
It's very nice to see volunteers helping maintain holy sites in Kechara Forest Retreat, it's very good for them. Cleaning Buddha statues is a very powerful and effective way of purifying body karma.
Kechara Forest Retreat is preparing for the upcoming Chinese New Year celebrations. This is our holy Vajra Yogini stupa which is now surrounded by beautiful lanterns organised by our students.
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Kechara Forest Retreat is preparing for the upcoming Chinese New Year celebrations. This is our holy Vajra Yogini stupa which is now surrounded by beautiful lanterns organised by our students.
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One of the most recent harvests from our Kechara Forest Retreat land. It was grown free of chemicals and pesticides, wonderful!
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Height: 33ft (10m)
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Third picture-Standing Manjushri Statue at Chowar, Kirtipur, Nepal. Height: 33ft (10m)
Second picture-Standing Manjushri Statue at Chowar, Kirtipur, Nepal.
Height: 33ft (10m)
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Second picture-Standing Manjushri Statue at Chowar, Kirtipur, Nepal. Height: 33ft (10m)
First picture-Standing Manjushri Statue at Chowar, Kirtipur, Nepal.
Height: 33ft (10m)
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First picture-Standing Manjushri Statue at Chowar, Kirtipur, Nepal. Height: 33ft (10m)
The first title published by Kechara Comics is Karuna Finds A Way. It tells the tale of high-school sweethearts Karuna and Adam who had what some would call the dream life. Everything was going great for them until one day when reality came knocking on their door. Caught in a surprise swindle, this loving family who never harmed anyone found themselves out of luck and down on their fortune. Determined to save her family, Karuna goes all out to find a solution. See what she does- https://bit.ly/2LSKuWo
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The first title published by Kechara Comics is Karuna Finds A Way. It tells the tale of high-school sweethearts Karuna and Adam who had what some would call the dream life. Everything was going great for them until one day when reality came knocking on their door. Caught in a surprise swindle, this loving family who never harmed anyone found themselves out of luck and down on their fortune. Determined to save her family, Karuna goes all out to find a solution. See what she does- https://bit.ly/2LSKuWo
Very powerful story! Tibetan Resistance group Chushi Gangdruk reveals how Dalai Lama escaped in 1959- https://bit.ly/2S9VMGX
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Very powerful story! Tibetan Resistance group Chushi Gangdruk reveals how Dalai Lama escaped in 1959- https://bit.ly/2S9VMGX
At Kechara Forest Retreat land we have nice fresh spinach growing free of chemicals and pesticides. Yes!
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At Kechara Forest Retreat land we have nice fresh spinach growing free of chemicals and pesticides. Yes!
See beautiful pictures of Manjushri Guest House here- https://bit.ly/2WGo0ti
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See beautiful pictures of Manjushri Guest House here- https://bit.ly/2WGo0ti
Beginner’s Introduction to Dorje Shugden~Very good overview https://bit.ly/2QQNfYv
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Beginner’s Introduction to Dorje Shugden~Very good overview https://bit.ly/2QQNfYv
Fresh eggplants grown on Kechara Forest Retreat\'s land here in Malaysia
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Fresh eggplants grown on Kechara Forest Retreat's land here in Malaysia
Most Venerable Uppalavanna – The Chief Female Disciple of Buddha Shakyamuni - She exhibited many supernatural abilities gained from meditation and proved to the world females and males are equal in spirituality- https://bit.ly/31d9Rat
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Most Venerable Uppalavanna – The Chief Female Disciple of Buddha Shakyamuni - She exhibited many supernatural abilities gained from meditation and proved to the world females and males are equal in spirituality- https://bit.ly/31d9Rat
Thailand’s ‘Renegade’ Yet Powerful Buddhist Nuns~ https://bit.ly/2Z1C02m
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Thailand’s ‘Renegade’ Yet Powerful Buddhist Nuns~ https://bit.ly/2Z1C02m
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Mahapajapati Gotami – the first Buddhist nun ordained by Lord Buddha- https://bit.ly/2IjD8ru
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The Largest Buddha Shakyamuni in Russia | 俄罗斯最大的释迦牟尼佛画像- https://bit.ly/2Wpclni
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Dorje Shugden works & archives - a labour of commitment - https://bit.ly/30Tp2p8
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Mahapajapati Gotami, who was the first nun ordained by Lord Buddha.
Mahapajapati Gotami, who was the first nun ordained by Lord Buddha. She was his step-mother and aunt. Buddha\'s mother had passed away at his birth so he was raised by Gotami.
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Mahapajapati Gotami, who was the first nun ordained by Lord Buddha. She was his step-mother and aunt. Buddha's mother had passed away at his birth so he was raised by Gotami.
Another nun disciple of Lord Buddha\'s. She had achieved great spiritual abilities and high attainments. She would be a proper object of refuge. This image of the eminent bhikkhuni (nun) disciple of the Buddha, Uppalavanna Theri.
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Another nun disciple of Lord Buddha's. She had achieved great spiritual abilities and high attainments. She would be a proper object of refuge. This image of the eminent bhikkhuni (nun) disciple of the Buddha, Uppalavanna Theri.
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Wandering Ascetic Painting by Nirdesha Munasinghe
High Sri Lankan monks visit Kechara to bless our land, temple, Buddha and Dorje Shugden images. They were very kind-see pictures- https://bit.ly/2HQie2M
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High Sri Lankan monks visit Kechara to bless our land, temple, Buddha and Dorje Shugden images. They were very kind-see pictures- https://bit.ly/2HQie2M
This is pretty amazing!

First Sri Lankan Buddhist temple opened in Dubai!!!
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This is pretty amazing! First Sri Lankan Buddhist temple opened in Dubai!!!
My Dharma boy (left) and Oser girl loves to laze around on the veranda in the mornings. They enjoy all the trees, grass and relaxing under the hot sun. Sunbathing is a favorite daily activity. I care about these two doggies of mine very much and I enjoy seeing them happy. They are with me always. Tsem Rinpoche

Always be kind to animals and eat vegetarian- https://bit.ly/2Psp8h2
2 yearss ago
My Dharma boy (left) and Oser girl loves to laze around on the veranda in the mornings. They enjoy all the trees, grass and relaxing under the hot sun. Sunbathing is a favorite daily activity. I care about these two doggies of mine very much and I enjoy seeing them happy. They are with me always. Tsem Rinpoche Always be kind to animals and eat vegetarian- https://bit.ly/2Psp8h2
After you left me Mumu, I was alone. I have no family or kin. You were my family. I can\'t stop thinking of you and I can\'t forget you. My bond and connection with you is so strong. I wish you were by my side. Tsem Rinpoche
2 yearss ago
After you left me Mumu, I was alone. I have no family or kin. You were my family. I can't stop thinking of you and I can't forget you. My bond and connection with you is so strong. I wish you were by my side. Tsem Rinpoche
This story is a life-changer. Learn about the incredible Forest Man of India | 印度“森林之子”- https://bit.ly/2Eh4vRS
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This story is a life-changer. Learn about the incredible Forest Man of India | 印度“森林之子”- https://bit.ly/2Eh4vRS
Part 2-Beautiful billboard in Malaysia of a powerful Tibetan hero whose life serves as a great inspiration- https://bit.ly/2UltNE4
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Part 2-Beautiful billboard in Malaysia of a powerful Tibetan hero whose life serves as a great inspiration- https://bit.ly/2UltNE4
Part 1-Beautiful billboard in Malaysia of a powerful Tibetan hero whose life serves as a great inspiration- https://bit.ly/2UltNE4
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Part 1-Beautiful billboard in Malaysia of a powerful Tibetan hero whose life serves as a great inspiration- https://bit.ly/2UltNE4
The great Protector Manjushri Dorje Shugden depicted in the beautiful Mongolian style. To download a high resolution file: https://bit.ly/2Nt3FHz
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The great Protector Manjushri Dorje Shugden depicted in the beautiful Mongolian style. To download a high resolution file: https://bit.ly/2Nt3FHz
The Mystical land of Shambhala is finally ready for everyone to feast their eyes and be blessed. A beautiful post with information, art work, history, spirituality and a beautiful book composed by His Holiness the 6th Panchen Rinpoche. ~ https://bit.ly/309MHBi
2 yearss ago
The Mystical land of Shambhala is finally ready for everyone to feast their eyes and be blessed. A beautiful post with information, art work, history, spirituality and a beautiful book composed by His Holiness the 6th Panchen Rinpoche. ~ https://bit.ly/309MHBi
Beautiful pictures of the huge Buddha in Longkou Nanshan- https://bit.ly/2LsBxVb
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Beautiful pictures of the huge Buddha in Longkou Nanshan- https://bit.ly/2LsBxVb
The reason-Very interesting thought- https://bit.ly/2V7VT5r
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The reason-Very interesting thought- https://bit.ly/2V7VT5r
NEW Bigfoot cafe in Malaysia! Food is delicious!- https://bit.ly/2VxdGau
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NEW Bigfoot cafe in Malaysia! Food is delicious!- https://bit.ly/2VxdGau
DON\'T MISS THIS!~How brave Bonnie survived by living with a herd of deer~ https://bit.ly/2Lre2eY
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DON'T MISS THIS!~How brave Bonnie survived by living with a herd of deer~ https://bit.ly/2Lre2eY
Global Superpower China Will Cut Meat Consumption by 50%! Very interesting, find out more- https://bit.ly/2V1sJFh
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Global Superpower China Will Cut Meat Consumption by 50%! Very interesting, find out more- https://bit.ly/2V1sJFh
You can download this beautiful Egyptian style Dorje Shugden Free- https://bit.ly/2Nt3FHz
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You can download this beautiful Egyptian style Dorje Shugden Free- https://bit.ly/2Nt3FHz
Beautiful high file for print of Lord Manjushri. May you be blessed- https://bit.ly/2V8mwZe
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Beautiful high file for print of Lord Manjushri. May you be blessed- https://bit.ly/2V8mwZe
Mongolian (Oymiakon) Shaman in Siberia, Russia. That is his real outfit he wears. Very unique. TR
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Mongolian (Oymiakon) Shaman in Siberia, Russia. That is his real outfit he wears. Very unique. TR
Find one of the most beautiful temples in the world in Nara, Japan. It is the 1,267 year old Todai-ji temple that houses a 15 meter Buddha Vairocana statue who is a cosmic and timeless Buddha. Emperor Shomu who sponsored this beautiful temple eventually abdicated and ordained as a Buddhist monk. Very interesting history and story. One of the places everyone should visit- https://bit.ly/2VgsHhK
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Find one of the most beautiful temples in the world in Nara, Japan. It is the 1,267 year old Todai-ji temple that houses a 15 meter Buddha Vairocana statue who is a cosmic and timeless Buddha. Emperor Shomu who sponsored this beautiful temple eventually abdicated and ordained as a Buddhist monk. Very interesting history and story. One of the places everyone should visit- https://bit.ly/2VgsHhK
Manjusri Kumara (bodhisattva of wisdom), India, Pala dynesty, 9th century, stone, Honolulu Academy of Arts
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Manjusri Kumara (bodhisattva of wisdom), India, Pala dynesty, 9th century, stone, Honolulu Academy of Arts
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  • April 13, 2021 02:32
    Who gave you the rights to use my images for www.tsemrinpoche.com without my license! It's illegitimate! You're committing a legal offense! You must replace my images NOW!!!!! asked: Hi, This is Mela and I am a professional photographer and illustrator. I was surprised, putting it lightly, when I came across my images at your web-site. If you use a copyrighted image without an owner's permission, you need to be aware that you could be sued by the creator. It's not legal to use stolen images and it's so selfish! Check out this document with the links to my images you used at www.tsemrinpoche.com and my earlier publications to obtain the evidence of my copyrights. Download it now and check this out for yourself: https://sites.google.com/view/4004998854399439/home/drive/storage/files/download?h=262044616157597687 If you don't remove the images mentioned in the document above within the next several days, I'll file a complaint on you to your hosting provider informing them that my copyrights have been severely infringed and I am trying to protect my intellectual property. And if it doesn't help, trust me I am going to take it to court! And I will not bother myself to let you know of it in advance.
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  • April 12, 2021 03:20
    Eden asked: Dear Pastors, How are all of you doing? I have a few questions here. I will be very grateful if you can answer them. Thank you. 1) If we are here because of our previous life karma, previous previous karma and so on. May i know when does all of this started? How does this chain of karma started? Im sure we all had our 1st life and everything had a beginning to it. 2) I am currently facing some problem over my career pathway, are there any practices and mantras that I can do to request for guidance?
    pastor answered: Dear Eden, Thank you for your questions. 1. Buddhism does not believe in a 1st life, and the reason being is the Buddhist view of time. Most people think of time and existence as linear. It has a definitive starting point and a certain end point. But Buddhism views time as a cyclic. Hence, our universe as we understand it, will at one point cease to exist, and then a new universe will come into existence. However, even though our current universe will end, due to the force of karma and reincarnation, we will take rebirth into the new universe and have many rebirths there. So in Buddhism we say that we have had "countless" rebirths, as you would never be able to count how many lifetimes you have had. This cycle is vicious and leads us to take rebirth endlessly. The only way to stop this cycle is to transcend it altogether, which is the state of Buddhahood, in which you are completely liberated from the cycle, known as "samsara". Also the way in which we think about karma is not linear either. It is not one for one. By this I mean, if you do one negative action, it is not that you will experience only one negative result. You will actually experience many negative results, with differing levels of severity until the karma is exhausted. How you respond to the negative results can lead to either more negative karma, or positive karma. Hence, the law of karma according to the Buddhist view point is much more nuanced then the general understanding of karma that people have these days. The Buddha explained this process in a teaching known as the 12 Links of Dependent Origination, which is quite complex. If you want to learn more about this teaching, H.E. Tsem Rinpoche gave a very profound teaching on it here: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/teaching-on-the-twelve-links-of-dependent-origination.html Hence, according to Buddhism, the understand of time is a never-ending cycle in which universes are created, destroyed and created again due to the power of karma. Since it is a cycle, there is no "beginning" or "1st life" for sentient beings. 2. In regards to your career pathway, I would suggest you engage in the combined practice of Lama Tsongkhapa and Dorje Shugden. We have heard of many people who are either stuck in their career or who need to find good jobs, succeed in the their goals after engaging in this practice with a sincere motivation. There is a book available regarding the practice here: https://www.vajrasecrets.com/the-dorje-shugden-handbook. We also have an entire section of this website dedicated to various aspects of the practice, including history, other prayers, etc. (https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/category/dorje-shugden). I hope this helps. Let us know if we can help in any other way.
  • April 11, 2021 00:23
    Lara asked: Hello pastors, I have a family member suffering from depression right now. May I know how I can help him to overcome this? Thank you.
    pastor answered: Dear Lara, I'm sorry to hear that your family member is going through this. When someone is going through such a difficult time, H.E. Tsem Rinpoche has advised that the person themselves seek qualified medical help as well as engage in the practice of Lama Tsongkhapa, which is well-known to help overcome things like depression. From your side you should be as supportive as possible. Take the time to understand what your family member is going through, and in which ways you can support them to overcome their depression and heal. You can watch a fantastic teaching about the practice of Lama Tsongkha here: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/sayonara-to-depression.html. The prayer text for the practice can be found here: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/prayers-and-sadhanas/sadhana-prayers.html#19 However, sometimes family members may not be open to the engaging in the practice themselves. In that case, you can engage in the practice yourself and dedicate the merits for the family member to heal, but this will not be as effective as the family member doing the practice themselves. Another thing that you can do, it to make abundant offerings or engage in virtuous activities like as helping the less fortunate, and dedicating the merits from those activities to your family member. You can also have pujas sponsored for your family member. The following two pujas would be excellent: Medicine Buddha Puja - which is good for healing, both physical and mental (https://www.vajrasecrets.com/medicine-buddha-puja-fund) Dorje Shugden Puja - to remove obstacles for a swift recovery (https://www.vajrasecrets.com/dorje-shugden-wishfulfilling-puja-fund) These are the various methods in which you can help. You can do just one or a combination of the methods mentioned to generate as much positive energy and merit as possible for your family member. I hope this helps.
  • April 10, 2021 07:50
    ray asked: hi pastor i have a question regarding purification practices because ive been having some doubts now, is it true that some people say engaging in purification practices bad things would then happen to the practitioner after that? be it being sick or facing obstacles coming after that.
    pastor answered: Dear Ray, Thank you for your question. When we engage in purification practices, what we are purifying is our negative karma. If you know about karma, you know that eventually you will need to experience your karma, be this negative or positive. When you experience your negative karma, then you experience negative situations. This could be something major, like having an accident, to something very minor such as feeling bad if say a loved one says something in a way that you perceive as being negative. Any experience you have that you perceive as negative, is a manifestation of your negative karma. During purification practices, through your own effort of invoking upon the enlightened beings and practice of the Four Opponent Powers, you are able to purify this negative karma. However, for a negative karma to be fully exhausted, you need to experience it. Say you have a karma to get into an accident, if you don't purify and exhaust it, then you will need to suffer from it 100%. This could mean getting into a car accident which is very severe and you are hurt badly. If you engage in purification practices then you can purify, let's say 99% of the karma. But for it to be exhausted fully, you still need to experience it. In this case, maybe you do get into an accident. Since you have purified most of the karma, your car only bumps into another car very softly. You don't even feel it, the person in the other car doesn't feel it and you car is not damaged at all. This is the reason why some people say if you engage in purification practices, bad things will happen. And because of that people are put off doing purification practices. This is wrong thinking because if you do experience negative situations when engaged in purification practices, this could be because: a) What you experienced is actually the purified karma, rather than the full force of the karma. In this case you should rejoice that through your effort of engaging in the practice, you didn't experience something much worse. b) It could just simply be the manifestation of a karma that wasn't purified. This means, you would have had to go through this experience anyway. c) Because you are engaged in purification practices, you are thinking of karma a lot. Therefore, when such experiences occur then you attribute it to karma, and then think it is linked to your purification practice. Then you believe that doing purification practices is bad because you have to suffer from such experiences. This is wrong thinking. Perhaps even if you were not doing purification practices, then you would still experience the situation, but you wouldn't actually think anything of it. You would just go about the rest of your day as usual. That being said, when you are doing purification practices, there comes a point were certain negative karma is so weak that you need to experience it for it to be exhausted completely. This can and does manifest as negative situations, such as minor illnesses, or even accidents, etc. However, the point to remember is the karma causing these situations have been purified so they are very mild compared to their full form. These negative situations can also be purified/exhausted in dreams, etc. Another way they can be purified is having mental disturbances or emotional ups and downs when actually doing the purification practices. In essence, you will need to feel the effects of your negative karma in some form or another, so better that you experience it in a very mild form right? This is what purification practices helps you to do. Purification practices are not something to be scared of. In fact, you should rejoice when engaged in purification practices. On a more deeper level, without some form of purification practice it is hard to understand higher aspects of the Dharma. Your negative karma will block you from being able to understand the Dharma and then internalise it. That is why purification practices are emphasised within each and every tradition and are a prerequisite for higher teaching such as tantra. The benefits of purification practices (such as enabling you to exhaust your negative karma in a very mild form, and preparing your mind for higher teachings) outweighs having to experience a very small negative situation. Therefore think about the benefits of purification practice and contemplate on it. This will help you to develop faith in them and get rid of any doubts or fears that you may have. I hope this helps.
  • April 1, 2021 04:54
    You are awesome! asked: Hello, you are awesome! keep going!
    pastor answered: Thank you for your kind message. It is very encouraging for us to read. May you always be blessed by the Three Jewels.
  • March 28, 2021 15:08
    vikas baluni asked: abut growth of my business
    pastor answered: Dear Vikas Baluni, I am unclear as to the actually meaning of your question but I believe you are asking how to increase and grow your business. According to Buddhism, everything that we go through in life is due to karma, this includes both the good things and the bad things. Therefore, for your business to grow and do well depends on your good karma. Only one type of energy can overcome karma and is always good for your, and that is what we call merit or punya (in sanskrit). So in order to have merit for your business to do well, you have to take actions that generate merit. The main of these is to transform your mind to become a more compassionate and wiser person, to help others less fortunate, to engage in pujas and other such virtuous activities. There are certain deity practices that are well-known in Buddhism to help increase the energies of wealth and success in our lives. These can help your business to grow. Once such practice is that of Bhagawan Gyenze, you can click here to find out more: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/prayers-and-sadhanas/dorje-shugden-gyenze-to-increase-life-merits-and-wealth.html Bhagawan Gyenze will definitely help you to grow your business, if you have a good motivation. If you motivation is only about yourself, then your business will not grow that much. But if you have the motivation help others, then Bhagawan Gyenze will help you even more. I hope this helps. Thank you.
  • March 25, 2021 01:11
    Jason asked: I have been practicing white dzambala and the bathing / water tormas for quite some time now. Recently I have been getting regular dreams where white dzambala appears and just smiles at me, or I dream that I am doing white dzambala chutor practice. I understand that when lama tsongkhapa got dreams of deities he thought that this was Mara acting up and paid no attention to it until his lama said something. My lama is currently on retreat and it is difficult to contact him. Please give me some advice on what is happening. I'm just some normal beginners smuck and I'm getting worried that this is a bad sign. When I wake up I feel at peace... But according to commentaries this could be Mara.
    pastor answered: Dear Jason, Thank you for your question. I am really happy to hear that you are engaging in Dzambhala's practice. It's extremely beneficial. You are right that Lama Tsongkhapa ignored his dreams of deities, and viewed them as bad signs. But before jumping to conclusions, we must analyse the reasons why Lama Tsongkhapa ignored not only his dreams, also the visions of the deities he received. The reason that Lama Tsongkhapa did not consider it a positive sign is because as practitioners on the spiritual path, it is all too easy to get carried away with 'signs' or advice, visions, dreams from supposed deities. Sometimes if we 'analyse' them it can lead us in the wrong direction because of our mistaken understanding. Sometimes, other entities can also enter our dreams and tell us things that we believe, hence we start practising things that are not Dharmic in nature. Lama Tsongkhapa warned against such things, rather Lama Tsongkhapa said that we should rely on the Dharma teachings that are genuine and transmitted to us through an unbroken line through our lineage. Generally speaking however, these dreams you are having are literally just dreams, so there is nothing to worry about. One category of dreams we have are known as samsaric dreams. These arise from karma and karmic traces in the mind. This can also include emotions, memories, etc. The meaning we find in these dreams are imputed by the dreamer, and not inherent in the dream. This also applies to waking life. We impute meaning onto situations and circumstances, rather than the meaning being inherent to the circumstance. It is like reading a book. Words in the book are just marks on paper, however, because we use our sense of meaning, we make a meaning out of it. However, this is always open to interpretation. For example, if you tell your dream to two people, they can interpret the meaning very differently, even though you told them the exact same details. When we have dreams such as of our teacher, our practice, the Buddhas, etc., it is still more than likely to be just a samsaric dream. Because we have been engaging in sustained practice, or have imprints from previous lives, these can surface in our dreams hence we have dreams of Buddhas, our teachers, etc. There is nothing to worry about or to consider overly auspicious or a 'sign'. Just realise that you have had the dream, do not allow your thoughts to dwell on it, accept it and move on. However, do take note that you had these dreams and once your Guru is out of retreat, please consult your Guru and inform him/her of these occurances and seek your Guru's advice if any. I hope this helps. Thank you.
  • March 23, 2021 02:01
    Jason asked: I white dzambhala is a wealth deity but can he also act as a dharma protector?
    pastor answered: Dear Jason, Thank you for your question. The practice of Dzambhala is actually a Yidam practice, this means that Dzambhala is a meditational deity. When you engage in his practice, as well as bestowing wealth, through his practice you also develop qualities that help you progress towards enlightenment. In the case of Dzambhala, the primary quality he helps you develop is actually generosity, which is one of the Six Perfections. Therefore, although he is known as a wealth deity, he is much, much more than that. When you engage in his practice, you are actually developing virtuous qualities in your mindstream. The function of Dharma Protectors however is to remove obstacles and to create conducive conditions so that you can transform your mind. Hence, the function of a meditational deity and a Dharma Protector is different. That being said, when you engage in Dzambhala's practice properly, you do gain wealth. Generally, we only consider this wealth to be external wealth, but Dzambhala's practice is more than that, because through his practice you gain internal wealth which are virtuous qualities. Due to the fact his practice also brings material wealth, he is known as a wealth deity. When you practice any meditational deity, you will gain some physical benefit as well, which can seem to mirror the effect of Dharma Protectors, but their function is very different. Dzambhala for example grants material wealth, but his actually function is to increase inner wealth. Another example would be Medicine Buddha, outward he heals our physical body, but inwardly he also helps to heal our minds and develop qualities such as compassion. Dharma Protectors can also help to heal our body, but for real internal change, we need to rely on a meditational deity. I hope this answer helps.
  • March 16, 2021 21:23
    ray asked: Dear pastors, i have a question regarding vajra and bells. can one use them if they do not have any sort of initiation or whatsoever?
    pastor answered: Dear Ray, Thank you for your question. You are right that traditionally vajras and bells are only used after receiving initiation. However, H.E. Tsem Rinpoche recommended learning how to use the vajra and bell, as a means of creating the causes to receive initiation in the future. That said, there are many dos and don'ts related to using the vajra and bell. You can learn not only how to use them, but also vajra and bell etiquette from one of Kechara's Pastors. I hope this helps. Thank you.
  • March 7, 2021 17:30
    Sandra asked: Respected pastors, Do you recommend doing Tsem Rinpoche’s guru yoga as part of daily Sadhana? I am sure I read on the article for the name retreat that it could be done as daily prayers but now I can’t see that sentence? Thank you.
    pastor answered: Dear Sandra, Yes of course, you may include Tsem Rinpoche's Guru Yoga as part of your daily sadhana if you wish. This creates a very strong bond with Tsem Rinpoche. If you are following the Diamond Path sadhana (https://www.vajrasecrets.com/diamond-path), you insert the Guru Yoga after you have completed the Gaden Lhagyama (Guru Yoga of Lama Tsongkhapa). Alternative, if you are using a different prayer text, you insert the Guru Yoga after Gaden Lhagyama, or before any deity prayers that you do such as Manjushri, Tara, etc. After you complete the deity practice section of your sadhana, you continue on to your Dharma protector practice, and finish with your completion dedication. I hope this helps. Do let us know if this is not clear. Thanks.
  • March 4, 2021 22:52
    Sandra asked: Respected pastors, Can a lay person work towards the preliminary practices by accumulating daily ? Many thanks.
    pastor answered: Dear Sandra, Yes, of course. Anyone can engage in the preliminary practices, you don't have to be ordained in order to do so. However for one's practice to be considered a full preliminary practice, you need to do 100,000 repetitions of whichever practice you are engaged in without break. That means you must engage in at least one session a day, until the count is completed. 10% of the count is also added on top, to make up for any unintentional mistakes. So the figure would actually be 110,000. If you skip a day, that means you have broken your preliminary retreat. If this occurs you can still dedicate the practice you have done so far, and you will still benefit from the merit generated and the purification of negative karma from the practice, but it is not counted as a full preliminary practice. Also you must adhere to the retreat procedures for the duration of the time it takes you to complete the particular preliminary practice. For example, an altar with daily offerings, retreat seat with swastika, refraining from eating black foods, etc. This may not be convenient for most people in our day and age. So what you can do is to spend a certain amount of time accumulating a specific figure, for example 10,000 repetitions of a particular practice. Seal the practice at the end with a strong dedication, like the King of Prayers. Later on, you can repeat the procedure more times until you complete 100,000. This method was given by H.E. Tsem Rinpoche for modern-day practitioners who do not have the time to complete 100,000 in one go. While it technically does not constitute a full preliminary retreat, you still gain immense merits and purification from engaging in the practice, even if spaced out. As Rinpoche said, it's better for you to do mini preliminary retreats than not doing any of the preliminary practices whatsoever. That being said, if you do have the ability to do a full preliminary retreat and it will not negatively impact you, such as create financial difficulties or strain familial relationships, then of course go ahead! To have the sincere wish to engage in any Dharma practice is wonderful. You can read more about the individual preliminary practices here: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/preliminary-practice.html You can watch a short teaching on the preliminary practices by H.E. Tsem Rinpoche here: https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/cosmic-tantra.html
  • March 3, 2021 04:13
    Sandra asked: Dear respected pastors, what are dreams? Do dreams have significance? Are they simply images the mind views at night - do they resemble the dreamer's state of mind? Thank you for all your replies :) :)
    pastor answered: Dear Sandra, Hello. Nice to see you back here. On the normal level, both waking and dream states are both marred by our delusions. The teachings tell us that this deluded state continues through all our experiences, whether during the dreaming or waking states. The way to overcome this is to "wake up" from our delusions, or reach enlightenment. Normally when people think of dreams, they do so in psychological terms and so focus on the content of the dream. When we investigate the nature of the dream itself, we begin to investigate something deeper, the processes that underlies the whole of our existence. Understand this propels you further along the spiritual journey towards enlightenment. We have many dreams during one night of sleep, and may or may not consciously remember then when we wake up. In terms of content, dreams can be used to work through psychological issues or can indicate certain issues and overcoming them (as is common within Western psychological practices). In Tibetan Buddhism, dreams can be used for much more. In the advanced practices, one can transform ordinary dreams to further one's spiritual journey. This is not only in terms of working through psychological issues, but in terms of meditation and practice as well. Generally, there are three types of dreams as described below. Most of us only experience the first type, unless we progress on the spiritual path. 1. Samsaric dreams: these arise from karma and karmic traces in the mind. This can also include emotions, memories, etc. The meaning we find in these dreams are imputed by the dreamer, and not inherent in the dream. This also applies to waking life. We impute meaning onto situations and circumstances, rather than the meaning being inherent to the circumstance. It is like reading a book. Words in the book are just marks on paper, however, because we use our sense of meaning, we take a meaning out of it. However, this is always open to interpretation. For example, if you tell your dream to two people, they can interpret the meaning very differently, even though you told them the exact same details. 2. Clarity dreams: These dreams occur when you are fairly progressed in meditational practices and can carry this into the dream state. These dreams arise not from the emotions, or memories, etc., but from more subtler forms of karma and delusions. However, just like in waking mediational practice, you are not affected by the images or thoughts that appear to you. 3. Clear Light dreams: In the advanced tantric practices, there are teachings called dream yoga. The object of these is to achieve the clear light dreams, which are very difficult to achieve and take years and years of intense practice. The most important clear light mind that arises is actually at the time of our death, if we are trained enough in this very subtle state, we can actually control where we take rebirth. If we are more experienced in this state, then we can actually use it to meditate on the teachings and achieve enlightenment. Clear light dreams are a "lesser" type of clear light mind, that helps practitioners prepare for the time of death. When we have an auspicious dream such as of our teacher, our practice, the Buddhas, etc., even though this is auspicious, it is still more than likely to be just a samsaric dream. There are instances however, when the enlightened beings and Dharma protectors will send practitioners dreams to help with their practice or as methods of divination. Tsem Rinpoche once told us of a very powerful Nyingma lama known for his divination abilities. Students would ask him a question, then he would take a nap, and receive divination advice in this dreams, which he would then relay to his students. This lama was well-known for this ability because his dream divinations were extremely accurate. As I am sure you can tell, the scope of dreams with the Buddhist context is very vast and I will not be able to cover everything here. However, I hope that what I have written helps your understanding. Thank you.
  • March 1, 2021 23:37
    Sandra asked: Hello dear pastors, wish we could have an article like the one below to highlight the auspicious days of 2021. https://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/auspicious-days.html
    pastor answered: Dear Sandra, Thank you for your suggestion. At the moment, there are no plans to publish another article with 2021 dates. But I have listed out some of the auspicious days and their dates for this year for you. I have only included future dates, not those that have already passed. Saga Dawa Duchen - 26th May 2021 Chokhor Duchen - 14th July 2021 Dorje Shugden Day - 24th August 2021 Lhabab Duchen - 27th October 2021 Gaden Ngamchoe or Tsongkhapa Day - 29th December 2021 I hope this helps. Thank you.
  • February 27, 2021 03:31
    Sandra asked: Respected pastors, Is it ok to pray from different areas in the house (even where there is no altar)? I was told you can't create 2 altars in 1 house.
    pastor answered: Dear Sandra, Thank you for your question and its nice to see you here again. The reason why we pray in front of our altars is because it becomes a focal point of the enlightened energies we are invoking. Therefore it becomes a kind of portal for the energies of transformation, peace, healing, prosperity and protection. It is also the place where we make offerings to the Buddhas. As such, most people usually only have 1 altar in their home. However, you can have more than 1 altar in your home. As it is an altar, it should be complete with representations of the body, speech and mind of the Buddhas. This would be an image (either a statue, thangka, tsa tsa, poster, framed picture, etc), a Dharma text and a stupa. In front of these, you should have at least 1 type of offering or more. This can be a fixed offering or maybe even a set of water offerings, which you make every day. Since practitioners make offerings on a daily basis, most opt to have only 1 altar, but there is no rule in Buddhism to say you can only have 1 altar. The altar however, should be placed in a respectful place. So, not in the bathroom. Or if in the bedroom, you should put a screen up to block it when you are changing, sleeping, etc. Alternatively, you can keep it in a cupboard, and close the doors during such activities. But altars should be dedicated places to the Buddhas, so don't put secular items in the same place, such as on the same shelf, etc. When it comes to praying, it is usually done in front of the altar, as you are invoking the enlightened beings. When you do your prayers there it becomes a powerful place in your home, and provides you with a sacred space to pray and meditate. However, if circumstances are difficult, then of course you can pray elsewhere. For example, when I first set up an altar, I was living in a single room with not much space. I set up an altar on a shelf but was not able to pray in front of it. Once I had made offerings, I would simply sit in another part of the room and do the prayers there. If it is really not convenient, then of course it is permissible to do the prayers elsewhere. It is better to do the prayers, than not do them at all if you can't be in front of your altar. I hope this helps. Thank you.
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In memory of Wilson Lee, one of our most dedicated volunteers in Penang. Our heartfelt condolences to Wilson's wife, Tze Ling, family and friends. Our thoughts are with them for their loss. Thank you for your kindness and service to KSK Penang. From all of us in KSK.
Last weekend a Soup Kitchen activities @ Penang, Johor & Kuala Lumpur. Hot food, water, masks, biscuits, buns & fruits. This is what we give out to our friends living on the streets. Thank you to our sponsor & volunteers that make it happen. Come spread more love by being a volunteer at our activities. WhatsApp us today at 010-333-3260! See you soon! #kecharafoodbank #kecharaempowerment #kecharasoupkitchen - Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen
6 months ago
Last weekend a Soup Kitchen activities @ Penang, Johor & Kuala Lumpur. Hot food, water, masks, biscuits, buns & fruits. This is what we give out to our friends living on the streets. Thank you to our sponsor & volunteers that make it happen. Come spread more love by being a volunteer at our activities. WhatsApp us today at 010-333-3260! See you soon! #kecharafoodbank #kecharaempowerment #kecharasoupkitchen - Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen
Fwd: Dear Sotha
6 months ago
Fwd: Dear Sotha
Kechara Earth Project 13/9/2020
7 months ago
Kechara Earth Project 13/9/2020
Thank you Domino's Pizza Malaysia, Kasih & Piza campaign for sponsoring 85 boxes of pizza to our friends who live on the streets. Your flavourful pizzas have put a smile on their faces. Thank you! - Vivan @ Kechara Soup Kitchen #kecharafoodbank #kecharaempowerment #kecharasoupkitchen #KasihdanPiza #ItsAllAboutYou
7 months ago
Thank you Domino's Pizza Malaysia, Kasih & Piza campaign for sponsoring 85 boxes of pizza to our friends who live on the streets. Your flavourful pizzas have put a smile on their faces. Thank you! - Vivan @ Kechara Soup Kitchen #kecharafoodbank #kecharaempowerment #kecharasoupkitchen #KasihdanPiza #ItsAllAboutYou
Thank you Novo Nordisk! Your kind monetary donation and 1,320 boxes of masks will benefit many needy families under the Kechara Food Bank Program. Thank you! Much love from the needy families  ~ Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen #kecharafoodbank #kecharaempowerment #kecharasoupkitchen #novonordisk #novonordiskmalaysia
7 months ago
Thank you Novo Nordisk! Your kind monetary donation and 1,320 boxes of masks will benefit many needy families under the Kechara Food Bank Program. Thank you! Much love from the needy families ~ Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen #kecharafoodbank #kecharaempowerment #kecharasoupkitchen #novonordisk #novonordiskmalaysia
We were graced with the presence of Tengku Zatashah & The Alice Smith School Foundation yesterday. 130 homeless were blessed to be served by them. RM 20,000 donated by Alice Smith School Foundation will benefit 100 families registered under Kechara Food Bank Program. Thank you! Much love from the needy families ~ Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen #kecharafoodbank #kecharaempowerment #kecharasoupkitchen #alicesmithschoolfoundation #alicesmithschool #volunteerism #homeless
7 months ago
We were graced with the presence of Tengku Zatashah & The Alice Smith School Foundation yesterday. 130 homeless were blessed to be served by them. RM 20,000 donated by Alice Smith School Foundation will benefit 100 families registered under Kechara Food Bank Program. Thank you! Much love from the needy families ~ Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen #kecharafoodbank #kecharaempowerment #kecharasoupkitchen #alicesmithschoolfoundation #alicesmithschool #volunteerism #homeless
Thanks to the effort of our outstation team, we were able to mobilise food provisions to 600 families living in Kelantan, Penang, Negeri Sembilan, Melaka and Johor during the Raya period with each of these families receiving RM200 worth of provisions. Adding onto the current 368 families in Klang Valley, a total of 968 families were benefitted from this. Special thanks to the sponsors who have contributed especially Hong Leong Foundation and partially from Tesco Malaysia (where we also ordered the provisions from). ~ Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen
9 months ago
Thanks to the effort of our outstation team, we were able to mobilise food provisions to 600 families living in Kelantan, Penang, Negeri Sembilan, Melaka and Johor during the Raya period with each of these families receiving RM200 worth of provisions. Adding onto the current 368 families in Klang Valley, a total of 968 families were benefitted from this. Special thanks to the sponsors who have contributed especially Hong Leong Foundation and partially from Tesco Malaysia (where we also ordered the provisions from). ~ Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen
So glad that our soup kitchen operations are back in full swing. Good to see the clients are observing the SOPs. Some of them lost their job during MCO and ended up on the streets. Special thanks to our sponsors and volunteers for the great support! - Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen
10 months ago
So glad that our soup kitchen operations are back in full swing. Good to see the clients are observing the SOPs. Some of them lost their job during MCO and ended up on the streets. Special thanks to our sponsors and volunteers for the great support! - Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen
From serving cooked food to the homeless clients on the streets to mobilising provisions to the needy individuals in PPRs and shelters, we thank everyone of our Johor Bahru team for their kind contributions and effort to make it for the needy despite all the challenges! - Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen
10 months ago
From serving cooked food to the homeless clients on the streets to mobilising provisions to the needy individuals in PPRs and shelters, we thank everyone of our Johor Bahru team for their kind contributions and effort to make it for the needy despite all the challenges! - Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen
More photos taken from our "Hari Raya Hampers" distribution this week. Making sure everyone of our clients have something to be cheerful about. Apart from food, daily used items such as hygiene products, kitchen utensils, assorted fabric items, stationary items and toys were also included into our hamper bags making it extra heavier this month! Food items alone were about 35kg per family! Taking this opportunity to wish everyone of our Muslim volunteers, friends, supporters and clients a Selamat Hari Raya Aidilfitri and Maaf Zahir Batin. No doubt this year's celebration will be very different but appreciate everyone is safe and protected from the pandemic. We are in this together and let's work to fight this pandemic together! Thanking all sponsors and donors for the generous support enabling us to continue serve the needy with food, love and care. Big shoutout too to our wonderful team which already depleted by our very own strict SOP. All of you who worked tirelessly behind the s
10 months ago
More photos taken from our "Hari Raya Hampers" distribution this week. Making sure everyone of our clients have something to be cheerful about. Apart from food, daily used items such as hygiene products, kitchen utensils, assorted fabric items, stationary items and toys were also included into our hamper bags making it extra heavier this month! Food items alone were about 35kg per family! Taking this opportunity to wish everyone of our Muslim volunteers, friends, supporters and clients a Selamat Hari Raya Aidilfitri and Maaf Zahir Batin. No doubt this year's celebration will be very different but appreciate everyone is safe and protected from the pandemic. We are in this together and let's work to fight this pandemic together! Thanking all sponsors and donors for the generous support enabling us to continue serve the needy with food, love and care. Big shoutout too to our wonderful team which already depleted by our very own strict SOP. All of you who worked tirelessly behind the s
Our team have been working extra hours for the past few weeks to deliver provisions and hamper goodies to the needy families before Hari Raya! Heart warming to see the smiling faces of our recipients upon receiving 3 bags full of food and daily used items. Thanks to everyone of you who have contributed to our foodbank enabling us to give all our recipients (especially those celebrating) a Raya to remember! - Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen
10 months ago
Our team have been working extra hours for the past few weeks to deliver provisions and hamper goodies to the needy families before Hari Raya! Heart warming to see the smiling faces of our recipients upon receiving 3 bags full of food and daily used items. Thanks to everyone of you who have contributed to our foodbank enabling us to give all our recipients (especially those celebrating) a Raya to remember! - Vivian @ Kechara Soup Kitchen
Thankful to all donors and those who have been committed in contributing not just money but time over the past testing weeks to help us ease the work of our frontliners and also the livelihood of the needy, their struggles over this pandemic period seemed a little easier to bear with because of your contributions! - Vivian @Kechara Soup Kitchen
11 months ago
Thankful to all donors and those who have been committed in contributing not just money but time over the past testing weeks to help us ease the work of our frontliners and also the livelihood of the needy, their struggles over this pandemic period seemed a little easier to bear with because of your contributions! - Vivian @Kechara Soup Kitchen
KSDS Level 2 virtual class, Lin Mun KSDS
11 months ago
KSDS Level 2 virtual class, Lin Mun KSDS
KSDS Level 3 virtual class. Lin Mun KSDS
11 months ago
KSDS Level 3 virtual class. Lin Mun KSDS
Wesak 2020
11 months ago
Wesak 2020
Recycle today for a better tomorrow. KEP-Serena
1 years ago
Recycle today for a better tomorrow. KEP-Serena
Today we are having recycling at Kechara Soup Kitchen. Do drop by here if you would like to get ride of the recyclable items from home. KEP - Serena
1 years ago
Today we are having recycling at Kechara Soup Kitchen. Do drop by here if you would like to get ride of the recyclable items from home. KEP - Serena
Highlights from the Shize Peaceful Fire Puja: Seen here is Bam, Vajrayogini’s seed syllable and also Kechara's logo. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
1 years ago
Highlights from the Shize Peaceful Fire Puja: Seen here is Bam, Vajrayogini’s seed syllable and also Kechara's logo. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
Highlights from the Shize Peaceful Fire Puja: More melted butter was offered. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
1 years ago
Highlights from the Shize Peaceful Fire Puja: More melted butter was offered. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
H.E. Zawa Rinpoche in deep concentration. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
1 years ago
H.E. Zawa Rinpoche in deep concentration. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
Geshela is seen here wearing ceremonial hat called tsoksha. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
1 years ago
Geshela is seen here wearing ceremonial hat called tsoksha. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
The Shize Fire Puja was performed according to scriptural sources. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
1 years ago
The Shize Fire Puja was performed according to scriptural sources. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
To find out more about the substances offered during jinsek/fire puja, have a read here: http://bit.ly/WhatIsFirePuja - shared by Pastor Antoinette
1 years ago
To find out more about the substances offered during jinsek/fire puja, have a read here: http://bit.ly/WhatIsFirePuja - shared by Pastor Antoinette
More about the symbolism of the offering items here: http://bit.ly/WhatIsFirePuja - shared by Pastor Antoinette
1 years ago
More about the symbolism of the offering items here: http://bit.ly/WhatIsFirePuja - shared by Pastor Antoinette
Amongst all pujas, the fire puja is considered the king of all Pujas. It is the most powerful of all pujas within Tibetan Buddhism and its purpose is basically to remove all obstacles and its stains to enlightenment.
1 years ago
Amongst all pujas, the fire puja is considered the king of all Pujas. It is the most powerful of all pujas within Tibetan Buddhism and its purpose is basically to remove all obstacles and its stains to enlightenment.
Highlights from the Shize Peaceful Fire Puja: Graceful hand mudras were also part of the ritual. - shared Pastor Antoinette
1 years ago
Highlights from the Shize Peaceful Fire Puja: Graceful hand mudras were also part of the ritual. - shared Pastor Antoinette
Highlights from the Shize Peaceful Fire Puja: One by one the offering substances were offered accompanied by traditional Tibetan recitations. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
1 years ago
Highlights from the Shize Peaceful Fire Puja: One by one the offering substances were offered accompanied by traditional Tibetan recitations. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
Highlights from the Shize Peaceful Fire Puja: JP Thong ensuring that Geshela's ritual items are within easy reach. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
1 years ago
Highlights from the Shize Peaceful Fire Puja: JP Thong ensuring that Geshela's ritual items are within easy reach. - shared by Pastor Antoinette
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