Sakya Trizin’s Dorje Shugden Prayer

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31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro composed numerous texts on Dorje Shugden

Dear friends around the world,

Before Dorje Shugden was widely practised in Gelugpa tradition, he was enthroned as a protector of the Sakya tradition. As stated by His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche in his work “Music Delighting the Ocean of Protectors”, Sakya reliance on Dorje Shugden began with the 30th Sakya Trizin Sonam Rinchen (1705 – 1741) who enthroned and worshipped Dorje Shugden as a Dharma protector. The supreme throneholder of Sakya school of Buddhism, Sonam Rinchen enthroned Dorje Shugden as one of the protectors of Sakya. 

Later on, Sonam Rinchen passed the practice of this Dharma Protector to his son, the 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro (1729 – 1783), who was believed to be the emanation of Dorje Shugden himself. During his lifetime, Kunga Lodro composed a Dorje Shugden kangsol (prayer) to invoke the blessings of Dorje Shugden. The prayer has since achieved prominence and it is still widely used today. Thus, it is safe to conclude that modern day practice of Dorje Shugden has its roots in the Sakya school. Kunga Lodro the supreme 31st throneholder of Sakya school of Buddhism wrote a supplication to Dorje Shugden included here and propitiated Dorje Shugden as a fully enlightened being. 

The fact that Dorje Shugden is an enlightened being was also confirmed by the 39th Sakya Trizin Dragshul Trinley Rinchen (1871 – 1935) who wrote, “The one known as Dolgyal is not mistaken on the path to liberation, he is by nature the Great Compassionate One.” In this instance, Dragshul Trinley Rinchen was highlighting that Dorje Shugden’s nature is as Avalokiteshvara, a fully enlightened being.

The 39th Sakya throneholder Sakya Trizin Dragshul Trinley Rinchen who also practised Dorje Shugden and praised Dorje Shugden as an emanation of Avalokiteshvara

Above are three Sakya Trizins who relied on Dorje Shugden or referred to him as an enlightened being. It is definitely very significant that it was the Sakya Trizins who taught this, and not just any ordinary monk because the Sakya Trizins are actually the spiritual heads and throneholders of the Sakya tradition, one of the major schools within Tibetan Buddhism. This is a position equal in rank to the spiritual heads of other major traditions such as the Gaden Tripa of the Gelug school or the Karmapa of the Karma Kagyu school.

The Sakya Trizins are therefore the spiritual foundation and guide to all Sakya practitioners, of which there are many. This includes the practices that Sakya practitioners can rely on, the teachings they can study and the deities they can propitiate. If a Sakya Trizin deems a deity acceptable to himself, what else is there to say about whether the deity is acceptable for everyone else? In the case of Dorje Shugden, not one but THREE Sakya Trizins believed in him, relied on him and encouraged his practice to Sakya practitioners.

Considering the status of the author and the fact the Dorje Shugden kangsol text composed by the 31st Sakya Trizin is still widely used to this day, the practice must have borne results and was therefore deemed effective. In order for the practice to have results, it also follows that the lama who composed the kangsol text therefore maintained clean samaya with his Guru and lineage masters, because otherwise the practice would be void of blessings. It means, in relying on Dorje Shugden, he did NOT break his refuge vows as some would claim.

It further follows that Dorje Shugden practice was not a minor practice of the Sakyas as claimed by some, because one of the Sakya Trizins felt strongly enough about the benefits of Shugden practice to compose such an extensive text to be used to propitiate the deity. If the deity was a minor spirit with little benefit to sentient beings, would a Sakya Trizin spend time, energy and effort to compose such an extensive supplicatory texts for them to propitiate? Thus, it is illogical to claim that Dorje Shugden is only a minor practice within the Sakya school. Or Dorje Shugden was simply an evil being or gyelpo. 

The purpose of this blog post is to increase the knowledge and bring awareness about the nature of Dorje Shugden and how he was widely practised within Buddhist traditions other than the Gelug school. I am happy to present this text below to everyone which I hope everyone will download for free. You can print it out and place it on your shrine or even gift it to friends.

May we all come under the care, protection and blessings of Dorje Shugden in this and future lives. May no leader spiritual or secular or their followers ever speak intolerantly of other faiths. May the age of enlightenment, acceptance and harmony come soon. May there be religious freedom and peace. 

Tsem Rinpoche

 

The Life and Times of the 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro

When engaging in the Dorje Shugden puja, one of the places Dorje Shugden is invoked from is the protector temple at Mugchung, which is located in the Sakya Monastery

The 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro was born in 1729 at Sakya monastery. He was the descendent of Khon family bloodline and his father was the reigning 30th Sakya Trizin Ngawang Sonam Rinchen (1705-1741) who was known to have enthroned Dorje Shugden as a Dharma Protector of the Sakya School. His mother was known by her name, Sonam Wangmo.

It is widely believed that Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro was himself the emanation of Dorje Shugden. As was customary for nobility, his own father bestowed upon the young Kunga Lodro several long life initiations, Guhyasamaja initiation in the tradition of Arya Nagarjuna and transmissions of Manjushri’s mantras. He was then given the auspicious name, Ngawang Kunga Sonam Drakpa Lodro.

He then received his traditional education of reading, writing and memorization of various texts under the guidance of his father. He also received from his father various initiations and transmissions such as that of the Drubta Gyatsa collection of a hundred sadhanas and the Sakya Kabum, which is the collected works of the Sakya tradition. In addition to that, he received initiations and transmissions from the 33rd Ngor Khenchen, Namkha Samdrub (1696-1754).

A close-up of the 30th Sakya Trizin Sonam Rinchen

Upon the demise of his father, Kunga Lodro ascended the throne as the 31st Sakya Trizin in 1741. He continued with his studies with particular emphasis on the Lobshe transmission of Lamdre teachings with many great masters, including the 30th Ngor Khenchen, Jampa Sonam Pelzang (1689-1749) and 34th Ngor Khenchen, Pelden Chokyong (1702-1760).

When he turned of age at 14, Namkha Samdrub bestowed upon him the lay vows and gave him the name Ngawang Kunga Lodro Tenpai Gyeltsen. He later received novice vows from a lama named Khenchen Wangchuk Puntsok, who also gave him the name “Sangye” which was to be added to his existing name. Along with these masters, he also studied at the feet of Nesar Kunga Lekpai Jungne (1704-1760), the 37th Ngor Khenchen, Mingyur Gyeltsen (1717-1751) and Zhalupa Yeshe Drakpa Pelzang. Kunga Lodro became famous for his erudite mastery of the Lobshe Lamdre and he taught this to numerous students. He would be invited to teach at a number of monasteries, including Tsedong, Tubten Serdokchen and Ngor Ewam Choden. As a prolific author, his written works were collected in seven volumes. This veritable scholar also composed a 149-page Tibetan-style manuscript detailing the Sakya ritual on Dorje Shugden.

In his biography, Kunga Lodro wrote that Nesar Dorje Chang had written several texts on Dorje Shugden. In addition to that, Kunga Lodro was also aware of Morchen’s practice of Dorje Shugden as well. In his writings, it seemed that Kunga Lodro had combined the five forms of Dorje Shugden with the main figure called Duldzin or Vinayadhara. According to his descendent, the 39th Sakya Trizin Dragshul Trinley Rinchen, it was stated that Kunga Lodro would once again take rebirth as the 37th Sakya Trizin Kunga Nyingpo (1850-1899). Thus, the Sakya throneholders since the time of the 30th Sakya Trizin Sonam Rinchen had been Dorje Shugden practitioners especially 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro, 32nd Sakya Trizin Wangdu Nyingpo, 33rd Pema Dudul Wangchuk, 35th Tashi Rinchen, 37th Kunga Nyingpo and 39th Dragshul Trinley Rinchen.

 

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Praise to Dorje Shugden

By the 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro

Commentary by His Eminence 25th Tsem Rinpoche on the Praise to Dorje Shugden

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(Excerpt from the Dorje Shugden prayer called duelzin choe ki gyalpo choepai choka phuentsog doe gu yong khil she jawa)

At the early time, entering into the teaching of the Tathagata,
you rose in the form of Vinaya-holding Bhikshu,
thus you protect all the teachings of the Sravaka-Pitaka without exception,
I prostrate to you.

Here the prayer exhorts Dorje Shugden’s previous incarnation as a great monk, who protected the teachings. This verse also refers to Dorje Shugden’s previous life as the Vinaya-holder (Dulzin) Drakpa Gyeltsen (1374-1434), he was a pure monk who had made the great aspiration to arise as a Protector of the teachings. The teachings are protected when a person learns the Dharma, practises the Dharma and then teaches it. Therefore when Dorje Shugden in his previous incarnations learned the teachings, he was able to protect them.

For example, if someone says something negative about the teachings, as you have internalised the teachings you can reply using logic. When logic is used to clear the doubt in the mind of someone else, you are protecting the teachings. The best methods to protect the teachings is not to kill or oppress those opposed to it, but to have knowledge of the teachings, and then expound that knowledge so that the ignorance in the other person’s mind is cleared.

Therefore here we see that Dorje Shugden is praised as a monk who had mastered the teachings as he can protect them without exception.

 

In the middle, in front of many Buddhas and Bodhisattvas,
having generated the aspiring and entering Bodhicitta,
you obtained the prophecy as a protector of the teaching of the Dharma,
thus you protect all the teachings of the Bodhisattvas without exception,
to you I prostrate.

This verse states that Dorje Shugden has taken the vow of Bodhicitta for the welfare of all sentient beings. Not only that but he has practised and attained Bodhicitta itself, which is the enlightened mind that aids all beings. This was done in front of the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas. Some people could argue that even though he has taken the vow, one can regress in practice. However, as the verse explains, he attained a prophecy when he would be enlightened. That would mean that his generation of Bodhicitta was truly genuine.

 

In the great mandala of the ocean of Tantras,
initiated by Vajradhara, and receiving the samayas,
thus you protect all the teachings of the profound Tantra without exception,
to you I prostrate.

Here the praise mentions the many tantric teachings that Dorje Shugden received in his previous lives. These are based on the sutra teachings, which as we have seen earlier he mastered, and he was also a master of tantra. Therefore as tantra is part of the Buddhist path, he is able to protect them through his own mastery of them. Thus, the nine mothers in the entourage of Dorje Shugden assist tantric practitioners to gain spiritual attainments. The nine mothers are all emanations of Dorje Shugden.

 

In particular in this northern land, surrounded by a range of snow mountains,
though not directly pervaded by the sun of the Buddha, yet sustained by his compassion,
you are the protector of all those perfect schools of Dharma,
I prostrate to you.

This verse exhorts Dorje Shugden as a protector of all schools. Here he is not described as a protector of the Sakya but as a protector of all perfect schools of Dharma. Therefore anyone who practises the Dharma, in any school, if they propitiate Dorje Shugden, he will assist them. This is testament to Dorje Shugden’s quality and nature.

 

All the great holders of the teaching, who comment according to one’s own views,
the entire Tripitakas, the Tantras and their commentaries,
you are the very protector of all the holders of the Dharma,
acting as the fulfiller of the words of those leaders, I prostrate to you.

The great lamas who receive a pure lineage, contemplate the teachings, who practise sincerely and even commentate on the teachings to further elucidate them to their students, in order to bring clarity of mind to others are protected by Dorje Shugden. These lamas are like the sun clearing the clouds in the sky and Dorje Shugden protects them.

Dorje Shugden is not swayed by material offerings or those who make the most elaborate offerings, like an unenlightened being, but favours those who elucidate the Dharma teachings. Therefore Dorje Shugden is especially close to those lamas who teach the Dharma. This shows us he is not an ordinary protector, as ordinary protectors are not excited when someone teaches the Dharma. They are more excited when they are given abundant offerings and respect.

Here we learn that Dorje Shugden is very pleased with lamas who teach the Dharma, after they have received the teachings themselves, practised, internalised them and then gives commentaries. This doesn’t refer to anyone who simply teaches the Dharma, but those who have listened to the Dharma, and teach from experience.

Since the teaching of the Dharma is the gateway to the ending of suffering for all sentient beings, Dorje Shugden finds it the most pleasing and he is closest to these lamas. He will listen to these lamas who teach and assist them. This shows you his nature, as Dorje Shugden is happy when other peoples’ sufferings are relieved. This is not a sign of a worldly protector.

 

The legacy of the pandits, translators, dharma kings and ministers,
all the temples constructed by them,
you are the protector of all those seats of the Sangha without exception,
I prostrate to you.

Here it states that Dorje Shugden is the protector of the legacy of those who have learnt, practised and taught the Dharma. By this it means that he not only protects those great monastic institutions they built, but their teachings as well. This is because these teachings are of great importance for beings to be free of their suffering and gain enlightenment.

 

For entire Tibet, included in upper region Ngari, central region Ue-tsang, and
lower region Dokham,
you act as the very protector, refuge, supporter, and friend of all people without exception,
thus you are the very god of the snow-land country,
I prostrate to you.

In Tibet there are three provinces: Ngari, Ue-tsang and Dokham. Here Kunga Lodro is stating that Dorje Shugden is the master of all three of these provinces. Therefore he is the protector of the entire snow-land, or Tibet itself. This goes to show, even before the Gelugpa lineage arose, some of whom now proclaim Dorje Shugden to be the main protector, the Sakya masters had already stated that he is the main protector of Tibet, and not any other protector.

 

The great protector of all the Buddhas of this fortunate aeon,
who is the eliminator of all the forces of unsuitable Mara,
some day through showing full enlightenment as Samyaksambuddha,
you will fulfil the deed of a Tathagata, to you I prostrate.

This explains that Dorje Shugden is emanating as a Dharma protector for all Buddhist lineages at this moment and that he will continuously emanate to assist sincere practitioners. However, in the future he will take on the form of a Samyaksambuddha. This is a Buddha who manifests when the Dharma is non-existent within samsara to turn the wheel of Dharma to benefit sentient beings. Buddha Shakyamuni for example taught when the Dharma no longer exist, so therefore he is called a Samyaksambuddha.

Likewise, Dorje Shugden will appear in a form like Buddha Shakyamuni to teach the Dharma. Some people would retort that this goes to show that he is not enlightened yet, but is unenlightened. On the contrary, here it states that he will ‘show’ full enlightenment, or take on the form of a Samyaksambuddha, implying that he is already a fully enlightened being. It means he will simply take the form of a Samyaksambuddha for the benefit of sentient beings.

Therefore at the moment he has taken a form of a Dharma protector, later he will take on the form of a Samyaksambuddha. This clearly means that he is enlightened already but will take on the form of a fully enlightened being in the future.

 

In short, in all three times, uninterruptedly,
with your infinite secrets of body speech and mind,
all those beings who are wandering in the ocean of the cycle,
you give them the perfect state of liberation, to you I prostrate.

This clearly states he is an enlightened being as only enlightened beings can provide you with the means of achieving enlightenment. This is not an ability held by any other types of beings. He brings resources, brings practitioners to their gurus who expound the path out of suffering, blesses them so that they are able to receive and understand the teachings. In short he creates the causes for a person to become a fully enlightened being if we have trust in him and his abilities.

 

Thus by the power of venerating you with this ocean of melodious praise,
through generating delight, compassion, and benevolent force of your mind,
please fulfil the activity for increasing of virtues, pacifying of disfavourable
interferences,
and accomplishment of all the purposes in accordance to Dharma.

The last verse states that by praising Dorje Shugden, who is no other than a Buddha, the practitioner generates great waves of merit. From these merits generated by praising him, you supplicate Dorje Shugden to fulfil the various actions of a protector, removing obstacles, granting protection and the granting of conducive conditions for the practice of the Dharma.

When we praise someone with an ego, their ego increases. Whereas if we praise someone without an ego, an enlightened being, our merits increase. Although this verse on the surface level is propitiating Dorje Shugden for various activities in his current role of a Dharma protector, if we look deeper it once again reaffirms his status as an enlightened being as he does not have an ego. This entire praise is a clear sign that Dorje Shugden is not an ordinary being but a fully enlightened being. Similarly it was no ordinary lama who composed these words. This praise was written by the 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro, a great patriarch of the Sakya School.

 

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Kangsol (part 1)

The 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro (1729-1783) composed the following 149-page Tibetan-style manuscript Dorje Shugden kangsol text. This text contains the propitiation rites that the Sakya high lamas and ordinary monks use in order to invoke the blessings and protection of Dorje Shugden. From this extensive 149-page long text, one can clearly see that Dorje Shugden is evidently not just a minor practice but a significant protector for the Sakyas. Consequently, this important Dorje Shugden text has been in use since the time of Kunga Lodro to this day.

To download the entire kangsol, please click here.

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Kangsol (part 2)

The 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro (1729-1783) composed the following 149-page Tibetan-style manuscript Dorje Shugden kangsol text. This text contains the propitiation rites that the Sakya high lamas and ordinary monks use in order to invoke the blessings and protection of Dorje Shugden. From this extensive 149-page long text, one can clearly see that Dorje Shugden is evidently not just a minor practice but a significant protector for the Sakyas. Consequently, this important Dorje Shugden text has been in use since the time of Kunga Lodro to this day.

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Gyalpo Sum on the bottom right, according to the Sakya tradition. They are Setrap, Tsiu Marpo and Dorje Shugden. Click to enlarge.


Close-up of the thangka


This biographical thangka of the 32nd Sakya Trizin Wangdu Nyingpo reveals the fact that one of his personal protectors is Dorje Shugden


Gyalpo Sum according to the Gelug tradition. In this case, Setrap (top) and Tsiu Marpo aka Kache Marpo (bottom) reside in Dorje Shugden's mandala


A thangka from the Nyingma tradition, featuring Dorje Shugden as the central figure, surrounded by the significant and important deities of the Nyingma tradition


A close-up of the 30th Sakya Trizin Sonam Rinchen


The 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro is depicted here on the Sakya lineage tree


The 32nd Sakya Trizin Wangdu Nyingpo


The 33rd Sakya Throneholder Sakya Trizin Pema Dudul Wangchuk who practised Dorje Shugden


The 35th Sakya throneholder Sakya Trizin Tashi Rinchen who also practised Dorje Shugden


The 39th Sakya throneholder Sakya Trizin Dragshul Trinley Rinchen who also practised Dorje Shugden


This is the actual writing of the 31st Sakya throneholder Sakya Trizin Ngawang Kunga Lodro that is housed in the National Archives, Kathmandu. He was a great scholar and a practitioner of Dorje Shugden. Click to enlarge.


This is the actual writing of the 31st Sakya throneholder Sakya Trizin Ngawang Kunga Lodro that is housed in the National Archives, Kathmandu. He was a great scholar and a practitioner of Dorje Shugden. Click to enlarge.


The Sakya Gyalpo Sum trio of protectors including Setrap, Dorje Shugden and Tsiu Marpo (a.k.a. Kache Marpo). These same three are being practiced within the Gelugpa lineage now. I myself have great faith in these three enlightened beings enthroned by the great Sakya throneholders of the past as well as the great Gelug masters. They are all fully enlightened appearing as gyalpos or in worldly forms to be closer in assisting the needs of sentient beings.

 

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Questions & Answers

Precious Dorje Shugden statue made by His Holiness the 5th Dalai Lama

Question 1: I read the post about Dorje Shugden’s practice in the Sakya lineage. I am from the Sakya tradition and until I saw your post, I never knew that Dorje Shugden was relied upon by the Sakyas. That must mean it’s only a minor practice right?

Having read the post on Dorje Shugden’s practice within the Sakya lineage, you will see that many Sakya lineage masters relied on Dorje Shugden or were seen to be one with Dorje Shugden.

The fact that it is conveniently not acknowledged as a common Sakya practice today cannot negate the rich presence of Dorje Shugden in the lineage history and his status as a Sakya protector regardless of whether it is a minor or major practice. And whether minor or major is not the point. The fact is that IT WAS PRACTISED. And it wasn’t being practised by some lama with no name, no attainments, no reputation or no rank but it was being practised by the head of the WHOLE LINEAGE – the Sakya Trizins (aka the Sakya throneholders) themselves.

If everything else the Sakya Trizin did was authentic, then his Dorje Shugden practice was also authentic. So if you look at the level of the practitioner being the lineage head of the Sakya tradition, that validates the Dorje Shugden practice within the Sakya tradition as authentic.

So whether minor or major, the fact is that Dorje Shugden was and still can be considered a Sakya practice.

 

Question 2: But His Holiness the Dalai Lama and His Holiness the Sakya Trizin both say that Dorje Shugden is a gyalpo (king spirit). If you say that Dorje Shugden is practised by the Sakyas, why would the Sakya throneholders rely on a gyalpo?

That is exactly our point! In the Sakya tradition, Dorje Shugden was originally practised together with Setrap and Tsiu Marpo (also known as Kache Marpo) as the Gyalpo Sum (Three Gyalpos). Gyalpos are spirits of monks who broke their vows and samaya with their lamas.

The Sakya Gyalpo Sum trio of protectors including Setrap, Dorje Shugden and Tsiu Marpo (a.k.a. Kache Marpo). These same three are being practiced within the Gelugpa lineage now.

Why would the Sakya high lamas need to rely on gyalpo spirits? It doesn’t make sense as these high lamas have their own abilities for protection and blessings, and there are other enlightened Protectors in the Sakya lineage that they can rely on. So why did they rely on Dorje Shugden along with Tsiu Marpo and Setrap? Because he is an enlightened being. He is an enlightened being manifesting as a gyalpo. Just like Avalokitesvara manifests as the Dalai Lama. Or Amitabha manifests as the Panchen Lama. Or how Heruka Chakrasamvara manifests as Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche and so on. When these great beings manifest in nirmanakaya form (tulku), they are subject to the impermanences of a human body. Enlightened beings can manifest as a demon, ghost, animal, human, god, demi-god, gyalpo, bamo, bridge, food and anything that will serve a purpose to benefit. Never limit the abilities of enlightened beings.

If you refer back to the post on Dorje Shugden practice in the Sakya lineage, you’ll also see that Dorje Shugden was relied upon by the masters and throneholders of the Sakya lineage. For example, one such throneholder who worshipped Dorje Shugden was the 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro.

Another Sakya throneholder who wrote about Dorje Shugden was the 39th Sakya Trizin Dragshul Trinley Rinchen who stated in his diary that Dorje Shugden is an emanation of Avalokiteshvara and that his own father, the 37th Sakya Trizin Kunga Nyingpo (19th century), was an emanation of Dorje Shugden.

So you asked if Dorje Shugden is a gyalpo and how can Sakya throneholders rely on a spirit. Well, let me ask you this – how is it possible that a gyalpo spirit can reincarnate as a Sakya throne holder? Wouldn’t this mean that the entire lineage stemming from Kunga Nyingpo has been corrupted?

How is it possible that a Sakya lineage master would compose a protector liturgy to invoke a gyalpo spirit?

All of this is clear evidence that Dorje Shugden is NOT a gyalpo (or king spirit) in nature but only in emanation, because the throneholders of the Sakya tradition encouraged his practice, and created and composed new methods for practitioners to rely on. Some of them were even reincarnations of Dorje Shugden himself, coming back as Sakya throneholders to lead the whole lineage.

 

Tsangpa Karpo, the peaceful emanation of the enlightened protector Setrap

Question 3: Speaking of Gyalpo Sum, I was told that Setrap used to be practised by the Sakyas. Nowadays, the Sakyas don’t rely on Dorje Shugden and only a few Gelug monasteries rely on Setrap. Because of this, some say this shows that Setrap is not enlightened and not accepted by mainstream Buddhism. Is this true?

This is far from the truth.

Setrap is indeed a mainstream protector given the fact he is the protector of Gaden Shartse Monastery. Gaden is one of the three largest monasteries of Tibet together with Sera and Drepung, which are collectively known as the 3 pillars of the Gaden tradition. Lama Tsongkhapa, the founder of the Gelug lineage founded Gaden Monastery, making it the heart of the tradition. Setrap would not be enthroned in Gaden Shartse if he was not enlightened, not powerful or minor.

The heads of the Gelug tradition, known as the Gaden Tri Rinpoches are enthroned as such solely at Gaden Monastery. Their thrones must be in Gaden Monastery and this represents their spiritual authority over the entire Gelugpa tradition. Since Setrap is practised at the heart of the Gelugpa tradition it is an established and mainstream practice.

Excerpt from the Oracles and Demons of Tibet that states Tsangpa Karpo is the peaceful aspect of the Dharma Protector Setrap. Click to enlarge.

Furthermore, Setrap is also the Dharma protector of Nyeari Khangtsen of Drepung Loseling Monastery and also worshipped in the great Tashi Lhunpo Monastery, as part of the liturgies invoking various other Dharma protectors.

On top of that, one of the state oracles of Tibet is the Tsangpa oracle (Lamo Tsangpa).This oracle takes trance of the protector Tsangpa Karpo, renowned to be the peaceful aspect of Setrap according to Oracles and Demons of Tibet by Rene de Nebesky-Wojkowitz. This is one of the oracles that the Dalai Lama consults on official state matters for the governance of the Tibetan people prior to the death of Tsangpa Karpo medium. I have included the excerpt from Oracles and Demons of Tibet, highlighting the fact that Tsangpa Karpo is the peaceful form of Setrap. Tsangpa Karpo is one of the state protectors of Tibet and speaks through an oracle of Tibetan government ranking.

Setrap or Dorje Setrap, the wrathful form of Tsangpa Karpo

Given all of this, it can certainly not be claimed that Setrap’s practice is not mainstream. In fact as shown it is a very pervasive practice, from the level of an ordinary monk in Gaden Shartse, all the way to matters of state.

Setrap’s status as an enlightened being reflects Dorje Shugden’s own nature as an enlightened being. It has been mentioned before that Setrap and Dorje Shugden are part of Gyalpo Sum of the Sakya tradition. This trinity comprises of Setrap, Tsiu Marpo and Dorje Shugden.

In the Gelug tradition, Tsiu Marpo is known as Kache Marpo and both he and Setrap reside within the mandala of Dorje Shugden. So if Setrap is enlightened, why would Setrap abide in a so-called lower deity’s mandala? Why would an enlightened being abide in an unenlightened being’s mandala? He would not; that is to say, since Setrap is an enlightened being, and an enlightened being would not reside in an unenlightened being’s mandala, therefore Dorje Shugden is enlightened just like Setrap.

His Holiness the Dalai Lama making offerings to Setrap in the special Setrap chapel of Gaden Shartse Monastery.

Setrap statue in Gaden Shartse Monastery. Setrap has been the protector of Gaden Shartse Monastery for 600 years. Setrap, Dorje Shugden and Kache Marpo work very closely together.

Setrap taking full trance of the senior Gaden Shartse Oracle. This oracle can also take trance of Dorje Shugden and Tsiu Marpo (Kache Marpo). The oracle being able to take trance of the Gyalpo Sum trio shows their intimate connection with each other since their Sakya beginnings. The three of them have been taking trance of this oracle in Gaden for over five decades. There was no issues prior to the ban of 1996.

Below is a Sakya thangka featuring Gyalpo Sum – Setrap, Dorje Shugden, Tsiu Marpo. Following on from that is a Gelug thangka featuring Setrap and Kache Marpo residing in Dorje Shugden’s mandala. As you can see, all three deities are closely related in both the Sakya and Gelug traditions.

Gyalpo Sum on the bottom right, according to the Sakya tradition. They are Setrap, Tsiu Marpo and Dorje Shugden. Click to zoom in on the yellow box for more details.

Gyalpo Sum according to the Gelug tradition. In this case, Setrap (top) and Tsiu Marpo aka Kache Marpo (bottom) reside in Dorje Shugden's mandala.

 

Question 4: So are there any lamas these days who are closely associated with Setrap? Maybe if I know about the quality of the lamas, it’ll help me understand Setrap’s nature as an enlightened being.

Setrap was brought over to Tibet from India by Lotsawa Loden Sherab, which is a well-known fact amongst those who know about Setrap’s practice. Loden Sherab’s spiritual reincarnation lineage is very much recognised and is today known as Dagyab Kyabgon Rinpoche as one of the incarnations of this master. He is still very much respected in divisions of Gaden Shartse Monastery. He will give teachings in Nyeari Khangtsen of Gaden Shartse Monastery but not to the whole monastery.

Those who are uninformed label Setrap as an unenlightened being. This contradiction in viewpoint really doesn’t make sense for a number of reasons. The first is that the spiritual incarnation lineage of Loden Sherab is respected BECAUSE he brought the practice of Setrap over from India, so the practice did not originate from a non-valid source.

Secondly would such a high incarnate lama really bring an unenlightened protector all the way from India and spread his practice? This doesn’t make sense, as surely he would rely on an enlightened protector. Why spend time, effort and energy establishing something unenlightened, if there is a pantheon of enlightened protectors he can propagate? Based on this, you will understand that Setrap is therefore enlightened, on the basis that no lama would be respected until today for spreading the practice and lineage of an unenlightened deity.

If people want to believe that Setrap is unenlightened, then they must also believe that Loden Sherab isn’t a high lama and he has no attainments since he could not recognise that Setrap is unenlightened, but mistakenly thought that he is an enlightened Dharma protector.

So if we follow this course of reasoning, it can only mean two things. The first is that Setrap really is in fact an enlightened protector, which the whole of Gaden Shartse and its eminent teachers will attest to. Or secondly, that Setrap is not enlightened, Loden Sherab was wrong and the whole of Gaden Shartse Monastery and its eminent teachers have all been mistaken in their propitiation.

The second reasoning cannot be true because if all of Gaden Shartse was wrong about Setrap, this would negate all Buddhist practice from Shartse, AND it would negate Shartse’s opinion of Loden Sherab as a lama to be respected.

 

Dorje Shugden Tanag (Dorje Shugden riding a black horse) tsa-tsa from the Sakya lineage

Question 5: The current Sakya Trizin says it is bad to rely on Dorje Shugden and that he is a spirit. This means that if you rely on Dorje Shugden, you break your refuge vows because Buddhists are not supposed to rely on spirits. But the previous Sakya Trizins practised Dorje Shugden…what’s going on? Does this mean they’re not Buddhists? Who did I take my refuge vows from? How can someone give me refuge vows if they don’t have refuge vows themselves?!

According to the logic of those who denounce Dorje Shugden as an evil spirit, people who practise Dorje Shugden have broken their refuge vows. In this case the Sakya Trizins mentioned above and others in the lineage had broken their refuge vows many hundreds of years ago (since the 30th, 31st, 32nd, 33rd, 35th, 37th, 39th Sakya holders all practised Dorje Shugden). This would mean the transmission of the entire corpus of Sakya teachings has been corrupt since that time. Since the basis of all teachings and practices is the refuge vows and how well we keep them, if the refuge vows are broken, then suffice to say it is logical to conclude no attainments, realisations and enlightenment can be gained. Since seven of the Sakya throneholders practised and encouraged Dorje Shugden to their lineage and disciples, any transmissions given by them afterwards would be nullified of its potency. Therefore if you wish to say Dorje Shugden is an evil spirit, you will be undermining the lineage that has been passed for generations within the Sakya throneholders.

If that is really the case then the current Sakya Trizin has received and is practising a false and inauthentic lineage. Therefore we should not listen to any of the current Sakya masters who received transmissions of a false and inauthentic lineage. This is the conclusion according to the people who preach that the current Sakya Trizin is correct on Dorje Shugden, and all of the previous lineage masters were wrong to rely on Dorje Shugden.

Of course, all of this would not be true if critics of Dorje Shugden practice realised that it undermines the foundation of THEIR own spiritual practice and basis for attainments when they say Dorje Shugden is a spirit.

Even a cursory examination of these comments, with logic applied, shows that Sakya practitioners who accuse Dorje Shugden of being a spirit do not really understand the implications of their inflammatory comments.

 

Question 6: I’m not sure what to think anymore. The previous Sakya Trizins said Dorje Shugden is good, and the current one says Dorje Shugden is bad. This whole “who is right, who is wrong” thing is confusing me. I don’t know whether the previous Sakya Trizins are correct, or the current one is correct about Dorje Shugden. Isn’t this dangerous for the Sakya lineage? The Sakya Trizin talking about how Dorje Shugden is bad is making me doubt our Sakya lineage lamas.

The current Sakya Trizin’s negative comments on the nature of Dorje Shugden is at complete odds with the faith that many previous Sakya Trizins have shown in Dorje Shugden. So which one is it? Is Dorje Shugden a minor practice? Is Dorje Shugden a gyalpo spirit practice and so the previous Sakya Trizins broke their refuge vows AND invalidated the whole Sakya lineage by relying on him? Or is Dorje Shugden NOT a spirit practice, but actually the worship of an enlightened being?

Or were all the previous Sakya Trizins wrong and only the current Sakya Trizin is correct about Dorje Shugden being a so-called spirit? Or is the current Sakya Trizin wrong, and the previous ones correct?

To put it simply – are the historical Sakya Trizins and masters wrong, or is the current Sakya Trizin wrong?

If you call into question Dorje Shugden’s validity within the Sakya lineage, you can’t do it without creating doubt in people’s minds about the Sakya lineage masters, their decisions and who is correct – the lineage masters or the current Sakya Trizin.

 

The renowned Sakya Pandita Kunga Gyaltsen

Question 7: I heard that the current Sakya Trizin previously relied on Dorje Shugden. This was told to me by monks who were living in Buxa refugee camp in India with him. During that time, everyone lived in such close proximity, everyone knew what everyone was practising. Is there any definitive way of knowing who practises what nowadays? Is there any definitive way of knowing who practised Dorje Shugden in the past? The senior and elderly monks of Gaden Shartse Monastery mention very clearly Sakya Trizin practised Dorje Shugden. It was not one of his main practices but he definitely practised.

Some people might claim to know what various lamas do and do not practise. I don’t think this can be very accurate. Tibetan Buddhist lamas of all traditions are known to keep their personal yidam and protector practices hidden, even from their own students. To categorically state that a lama does or does not practise a particular deity cannot be a reliable statement.

Even if the current Sakya Trizin does not practise Dorje Shugden, it has been proven that the previous Sakya Trizins HAVE PRACTISED. In fact, seven of them have been prominent practitioners of Dorje Shugden, inclusive of Kunga Lodro (31st Sakya Trizin) and Kunga Nyingpo (37th Sakya Trizin) who are even known to be emanations of Dorje Shugden. So it would still be truthful to say that Dorje Shugden is a Sakya practice.

The current Sakya Trizin should not criticse Dorje Shugden in any manner because his great forefathers practised and encouraged the practice, and even composed texts. For 57 years, the current Sakya Trizin was very quiet regarding the Dorje Shugden issue. He remained quiet about Dorje Shugden until 2008, while the main Sakya Monastery in Tibet continued to practise Dorje Shugden. If the current Sakya Trizin says Dorje Shugden is negative, then he has automatically invalidated seven of the Sakya throneholders prior to him. Not only have these seven throneholders passed down the lineage that has come to him (which he has been disseminating to the world), but this lineage includes the Dorje Shugden practice. Sakya Trizin remaining quiet for 57 years (until 2008) and then suddenly speaking up could be due to political pressure to conform to the exiled Tibetan government. It is possible therefore that he was browbeaten into speaking. By doing so, the current Sakya Trizin invalidated seven supreme Vajradhara-like Sakya throneholders that were his own forefathers.

 

Addendum

The subject of the protector Tsangpa Karpo (a.k.a. Lamo Tsangpa) and his oracle was briefly mentioned in the Question and Answer section above. Below are some pictures of the oracle in trance of Tsangpa Karpo, who is the peaceful form of Setrap, as well as a news article about the passing of the oracle himself.

The Tsangpa oracle passed in 2003 and since that time, a new oracle taking trance of this deity has not emerged. It is said that this is a sign of the deity’s displeasure with the Tibetan leadership and with the current state of affairs of the Tibetan government in exile.

The medium, Tsewang Namgyal, taking trance of Tsangpa Karpo (Lamo Tsangpa). Tsangpa Karpo is the peaceful form of Setrap and through the oracle, has been consulted by the Tibetan leadership on state matters for hundreds of years.

Since the Tsangpa medium's passing in 2003, a new oracle taking trance of this deity has not emerged, perhaps a sign of the deity's displeasure with the Tibetan leadership.

Phayul's statement on the Lamo Tsangpa medium. Click to enlarge.

Source: http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=4118&t=1

 

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  1. MartinC on Feb 9, 2017 at 5:21 am

    What a refreshing change! ‘Suzy in Hawaii’ who clearly can think for herself and see beyond her own old prejudice discovers the goodness and beauty of the Dorje Shugden practice. What an uplifting account from an honest and spiritual person- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl-4lIwxph4&t=11s

    Suzy

  2. Sanche on Oct 23, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    Dear Pastors and all participants,

    Thank you for all your wonderful work, research and kindness in bringing dharma to so many via this blog. You are deeply appreciated. We in Mexico really do not have a center nearby and this website is a great resource for us. Thank you very much. Please ignore the detractors. Muchos Gracias! Viva la Tsem Rinpoche!

    mexico

    • Anne Ong on Oct 24, 2016 at 9:42 pm

      Hello Sanche,

      Thank you for dropping by and showing keen interest in Tsem Rinpoche’s blog. Hope you great time reading the articles too.

  3. Tay BT on Oct 23, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    Tsem Tulku ,

    To increase the general knowledge of your pastors etc.:
    read http://www.mtac.gov.tw/pages/93/Gene%20Smith.pdf.Have you yourself read this article by Gene Smith?

    Since some of your pastors are so concerned about “sources”.
    I need to point out that Trijang Rinpoche’s Music Delighting…
    does not contain all there is regarding Ngatrul Trakpa Gyaltsen,Ngawang Lozang Gyatso and Tibetan Buddhism.

    Tsem Tulku : your group would benefit from information to be garnered from Kundeling Rinpoche.

    om hrih sthrih vikritanana hung phat.

    Tay BT
    5:31pm 23-10-2016

    • Sanche on Oct 23, 2016 at 5:40 pm

      Tay BT,

      Why don’t you go and teach at some centre or open your own and all the responsibilities that go with it and spout your knowledge there.

      Why don’t you open your own blog site and record all your great wisdom in it. Why do you keep goading people on? Bored? Lonely? Need attention?

      Sanche

      • Anne Ong on Oct 24, 2016 at 9:53 pm

        Yes,Sanche. We are all here to learn and share dharma with a friendly manner.

  4. Tay BT on Oct 22, 2016 at 3:16 am

    Tsem Tulku ,

    Please explain to David Lai about the parts dealing with shugden – Dalai Lama and the tibetan government; and compare and contrast with what is in the book Great Deception.
    Guru is supposed to lead the way.

    There are some “mistakes” in the mantras on tsemtulku.com

    Tay BT
    3:15am 22-10-2016

    • Sanche on Oct 23, 2016 at 5:41 pm

      Tay,

      No one is interested in what you have to say. Go get a drink and chill out.

    • Sanche on Oct 23, 2016 at 5:42 pm

      The pastors ARE DOING A GREAT JOB! I commend them all. Keep it up!

  5. Tay BT on Oct 22, 2016 at 3:01 am

    The moment of truth is — when Pastors are contradicted and they react adversely?
    Is this true?

  6. Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    Pastor Niral Patel ,

    Your answer is the best so far, based on what I have seen as at 7:13pm 20-10-2016.Who asked David Lai to come in?

    My reply to your entry was to develop the topics further.Going deeper .

    Tay BT
    7:16pm 20-10-2016

  7. Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:24 pm

    Dear Choong ,

    As for the basics I feel that it is safer to say Lam gyi tsowo nam sum (Three Principal Aspects of the Path by Je Tzongkhapa),bodhicitta plus 4 seals of Buddhism and the four reliances.
    Then your tantra/Mahayana dharma is on sure footing.

    Tay BT
    6:24pm 20-10-2016

  8. Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 3:49 pm

    May you all be well and happy plus Lama Atisa’s tonglen.

    Tay BT
    3:49pm 20-10-2016

  9. Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 9:30 am

    But if this website is only for the glorification of the Dalai lama and Shugden : then I need to ask Tsem Rinpoche —
    would that be allowed to overwhelm the truth as per 21st century
    freedom and access to information as it appertains to Dalai Lama and Shugden???
    Censorship may betray bias.Must be careful.

    on a ra pa ca na dhi
    dhi dhi dhi
    om hri sthrih vikritanana hung phat
    om vajra vetali agaccha agaccha hung jah svaha

    • Anne Ong on Oct 20, 2016 at 1:11 pm

      Dear Tay BT,

      May i ask where are you from and what do you mean?

      • Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 3:45 pm

        Dear Tsem Rinpoche ,

        Yes ,”Love is a many splendoured thing”, isn’t it?
        But is it true that you love shugden and the Dalai Lama?
        The Dalai Lama does not love shudgen.
        If I may venture further : do you “LOVE” Shugden and Dalai Lama EQUALLY or is there a certain predominance somewhere?

        Could you please confirm what the Trijang Labrang said about their requests to the Dalai Lama(13 January 1999 Lozang and Ven Choezed la )?
        As Trijang Choktul is also Ganden Shartse (and you are also connected to Ganden Shartse?) , could you please confirm the above?AND what were the Dalai Lama’s response?
        It would be nice if there are posts by Trijang Choktul(now layman).
        I mean the “insider stuff”, the inner circle stuff”.Come on lah.Don’t be like this.

        “The gift of truth excels/is victorious over all other gifts”.

        Om a ra pa ca na dhiih
        Om Vag-Isvari mum
        Om vak-ye dam nama

        Tay BT
        3:38pm 20-10-2016

        Dear Anne Ong,

        Where are you from and from what perspective(s)are you asking ?
        Better for you to ask Tsem Rinpoche— he knows what I am asking–isn’t it?

        Declare your motive(s) in the light of “I take the precept not to tell lies or untruths”.

        Tay BT
        3:19pm 20-10-2016

        • Anne Ong on Oct 20, 2016 at 4:37 pm

          Dear Tay BT,

          Yes,we love the Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden as equally.

          Sorry,I don’t really get your point regarding your question about Trijang Chocktrul Rinpoche?

          I think you spend so much time commenting,so I am curious what is your motivation? May i ask what are you trying to discover from all your questions?

          • Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:55 pm

            Sorry your reply is not helpful.

            You can ask all the rest to join in, but you(all) will be exposed .
            Providing answers that makes me wonder really.

            Tay BT
            6:53pm 20-10-2016

          • Joy on Oct 22, 2016 at 5:20 pm

            Hi Anne Ong,

            Welcome to H.E. Tsem Rinpoche’s blog. Yes you are right we love the Dalai Lama and Dorje Shugden. That is the correct view and attitude to have as Rinpoche has always taught us no matter what to always be respectful of the Sangha for we do not have the wisdom to see beyond our limited projections.

            You bring forth very good questions on one’s motivation. It is true whatever we do, we need to set the right motivation, follow with right actions, this will then bring forth a better, more positive results where everyone learns and can rejoice.

            Thanks again for your comments.

  10. Anne Ong on Oct 19, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    Thank you very much Rinpoche and blog team for taking in so much time and effort for this interesting write up. It is very in detailed and clear explanation about Dorje Shugden Sakya Lineage practitioners.And Gelugs are not the only sect who practice Dorje Shugden. and therefore,there is no sectarianism in practicing Dorje Shugden by Gelugpas, as it was also mentioned in this video taping mentioned by Pastor David and Martin Chow.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v52s_pF2A4o

  11. Mary Anne Thomas on Oct 19, 2016 at 8:32 am

    Dear Tay BT,
    I am appalled at your rude comments here on the blog, putting down Pastors and yet you end your comments with holy mantras. This gives a very bad impression of Buddhism, especially Tibetan Buddhism as many people from around the world visit this blog where they come into contact with Tibetan Buddhists or practitioners.

    Buddhism advocates humility and is against arrogant or haughty attitude. This is a sign of ego and can impede Dharma learning . The Platform Sutra tells a story about how the Sixth Patriarch, Master Hui Neng, of the Chinese Zen Sect reprimanded a follower for his arrogant attitude. That follower felt self-conceited about his knowledge of a major Buddhist sutra and knowingly or unknowingly kept his head above the ground while bowing to the master. At that point, the master gave him a lecture that his lack of humility suggested that having a great knowledge of the sutra fettered his mind rather than liberating it. In other words, when religious knowledge, like other knowledge, adds to “intellectual arrogance” and self-conceit, it becomes an impediment to what religious practice is supposed to attain. Elsewhere in the Platform Sutra, the Sixth Patriarch teaches that behaving humbly and according to propriety is a merit and a desirable moral quality that comes from insight into the spiritual reality. Humility in this sense is both a prerequisite for liberation and salvation from the deluded ego and a manifestation thereof.

    Why does Pastor David need to redeem himself? As far as I know, the Pastors in Kechara are ordinary lay people who have committed their lives to serving others and they worked very hard providing their service without any charges. They do not claim to be qualified Geshes nor Buddhist scholars, so why are you condemning them? Who are you to comment on others when you fail to practice Buddhist humility?

    When you said to make sure others’ statements are credible first, my opinion of your source of reference, “A Great Deception : The Ruling Lama’s Policies” published by the Western Shugden Society (WSS),is not really what I would call a credible source. Many see it as a propaganda piece against the Dalai Lama. You can perhaps quote the original source of the information, and point out which information is relevant in the spirit of sharing, instead of just pointing out a book title. The WSS group does not represent Buddhism and monastics well, a group of monks/ nuns screaming “Dalai Lama Stop Lying” accusing Dalai Lama of lying gives a bad impression of Buddhist monastics.

    Please treat this place of sharing and learning of Buddhism with respect.

    Sarva Mangalam.

    • Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 8:13 am

      Please Mary Anne Thomas — abuse exists because of alleged authority , alleged authority that “cannot be challenged “.This exists in some outfits including Tibetan Buddhism , even Chinese Buddhism!Since you mentioned Hui Neng who was illiterate.

      Sorry , have you actually read what is inside the book .

      I do not want to argue with your “close-minded ” attitude .

      Sorry , your childish / immature statements are not going to affect
      me.
      I suggest you do more manjushri — ask shugden now.

      And please Tsem Rinpoche and co — what is this?

      Trijang Rinpoche said that he gave Dala Lama Tenzin Gyatso the Shugden transmission / initiation but the latter said he never received it.

      So , once again : Tsem Rinpoche : is this how “gold is tried by fire” , at this website?

      om hri sthrih vikrtanana hung phat.
      om vajra vetali agaccha agaccha hung jah svaha.

      • Choong on Oct 20, 2016 at 4:22 pm

        Dear Tay BT,

        You stated this:
        “Trijang Rinpoche said that he gave Dala Lama Tenzin Gyatso the Shugden transmission / initiation but the latter said he never received it.”

        First of all may I know your sources?

        I would also tend to believe, based on inferential logic, that HH Dalai Lama did receive the Dorje Shugden transmissions.

        This is because:

        Trijang Rinpoche was HH Dalai Lama’s tutor (teacher, Guru) and is recorded to have given HH many transmissions, with witnesses, such as Heruka Five Deities according to Ghantapa, Vajrayogini according to Naropa, the empowerment of the Body Mandala of Heruka and taught generation stage and completion stage of this Tantra; the complete oral transmission of the Collected Works of Je Tsongkhapa, plus discourses on the Guru Puja, Gelugpa Mahamudra and Yamantaka Tantra; the Lamrim Chenmo and the 800-verse Prajnaparamita Sutra, the oral transmission of the Collected Works of Gyaltsabje and Khedrubje; the generation and completion stages of Chittamani Tara and of Vajrayogini according to Naropa, and empowerments into the 16 Droplets of the Kadampas; many long-life empowerments to the Dalai Lama, along with initiation of Guhyasamaja and teachings on Wheel of Sharp Weapons and Lojong (training the mind), and major empowerments into 62 Deity Heruka according to Luipa.

        Now the Dorje Shugden practice in Ganden came from Lord Tsongkhapa to Duldzin Dragpa Gyaltsen to Takpu Pemavajra to Pabongkha Rinpoche to Trijang Rinpoche.

        As you know Dorje Shugden is the main protector of Je Tsongkhapa’s teachings on the Wisdom of Emptiness. So why would anyone doubt that Trijang Rinpoche would have given such an important practice that he received from Pabongkha Rinpoche, having given so many other important transmissions and commentary as per the above?

        Remember, Guru; Yidam; Protector. These are the basics.

        • Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:14 pm

          Dear Tsem Rinpoche,

          Dear Choong ,

          Why do you ask me for the source?You should know this by now?
          Be less suspicious and dive into the facts , please.
          Faham tak?Harap maklumlah.
          Don’t tell me you are not familiar with the Trijang – Dalai Lama split?It is serious and STILL ongoing right now.

          Then I need to ask: how is it that you do not know ?
          But Tsem Rinpoche definitely knows.The thing is : does Tsem Rinpoche want to say like it is or not?Yes , please don’t be shy to say like it is , Tsem Rinpoche.Please read this right now, clearly huh!Yes , how is it?Reading right?Read nicely.

          OK .Thank you for your reply, Choong.

          OK — could you please ask your sources and guru :what is the earliest Shugden mantra(s)?Please provide a detailed and thorough expose on this and all the sadhanas of Dorje Shugden.Why not do this once and for all.But it must be accurate and precise , which includes dates .
          The Tagpu version is more like a visionary teaching.
          It is good to go downto the root as deep down as possible .
          Also Dorje Shugden in all the Gelugpa (Tibetan and Mongolian) institutions.

          Tay BT
          6:08pm 20-10-2016

    • Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 11:39 am

      Mary Anne Thomas ,

      “Be a good girl”.

      True study of the suttas /sutras / practice leads to deeper surpassing mental clarity and depth ; and it is inevitable that various “spin strategies” would be revealed and exposed.
      How are your four reliances ?
      Your Hui Neng stuff must be qualified with the Hwa Shang – Kamalasila debate.

      So you celebrate “sacredness” in this website by making
      biased and “shameful” statements?Is this how you celebrate the sacredness of this website?
      “Mary Mary quite contrary – how does your garden grow?”
      “Is it with biasness and spin all arranged in a row or how many rows are there?”

      om a ra pa ca na dhi
      dhi dhi dhi
      Om hri sthrih vikritanana hung phat
      om vajra vetali agaccha agachha hung jah svaha.

      Tay BT
      11:34pm 19-10-2016

    • Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 11:50 am

      Hui Neng was almost murdered wasn’t he?Please demonstrate
      your “humble” insight into Chan then.If you fail to demonstrate your “humble with more humility” insight – then what sort of purification are you capable of–if your four powers are weak I wonder what sort of Vajrasattva you practise?
      But luckily , Hui Neng did NOT have to become a “Chinese Shugden”.
      It was the Lankavatara Sutra that Bodhidharma brought to China from South India.

      om a ra pa ca na dhi
      dhi dhi dhi
      om hri sthrih vikritanana hung phat
      om vajra vetali agaccha agaccha hung jah svaha

      Tay BT
      11:47am 20-10-2016

      • Choong on Oct 20, 2016 at 4:42 pm

        Dear Tay BT,

        You said:
        “But luckily, Hui Neng did NOT have to become a “Chinese Shugden”.”

        I apologize if I sound condescending but you do have to give things a deeper look.

        In essence, Chan Buddhism is also about a dharma path or method to realize the Wisdom of Emptiness as taught by Buddha Shakyamuni.

        Academicians would place Chan Buddhism in the same group as the Yogachara and Chittamatra schools because they share the same method of modelling (for the lack of a better word) “Emptiness”. And this is not different from the Madhyamaka school which also does the same but slightly differently.

        So when you say that Hui Neng was lucky not to have become a Chinese Shugden, it does not make sense at all.

        The fact is that Hui Neng was on the path and taught the path, and so are all practitioners including Madhyamikas.

        • Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:41 pm

          What a lousy answer , Choong. Your answer makes me wonder what all this is actually about?
          If this is how you intend to help answer – it is better for me to decline your offer because it is not FFP and your knowledge is shallow.
          Your answer is SHALLOW .

          You cannot understand what i wrote , then interpret out of context. Then try and play noble!!!

          Tay BT
          6:38pm 20-10-2016

          • Choong on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:54 pm

            That’s fine with me. I tried to help.
            Sorry if I did not.

          • Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 7:01 pm

            Choong on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:54 pm

            That’s fine with me. I tried to help.
            Sorry if I did not.

            Choong,

            That is why don’t think you can “any how help” lah.Kena already.

            But I want you to know more , in depth , info on the Dalai Lama – Shugden issue.Now I try to help.Is it OK or not?But no forcing or coercion , but must have standardlah-the higher the better mah?

            Tay BT
            7:01pm 20-10-2016

            Tay BT
            6:58pm 20-10-2016

    • Choong on Oct 20, 2016 at 9:06 pm

      Thank you Mary Anne Thomas, I really like quotes from the Platform Sutra.

      Yes, it is from humility that you are able to learn.

      🙂

    • Pastor Niral Patel on Oct 21, 2016 at 10:06 pm

      Dear Mary Anne Thomas,

      I just wanted to thank you for leaving your comment here, despite the response that it gained from some people. It is very nice to read that the work of the Kechara Pastors contributes to the Dharma knowledge and practice of others. You are right that we are not highly trained Geshes or Buddhist scholars. We are simply putting into practice what we have learnt at the feet of His Eminence the 25th Tsem Rinpoche into practice in daily life, to alleviate the sufferings of others in whatever ways each of us is able to and to bring them some form of peace of mind. Your comment is very encouraging for me, despite what others say of us.

      I wish you well in your spiritual journey and do let us know if there is anything we can help you with.

      Sarva Mangalam. May all be auspicious.

      • Tay BT on Oct 22, 2016 at 2:42 am

        Pastor Niral Patel,

        It is good to know and see the reality of the situation/contexts and the people involved.
        The blogs and replies and the way the replies are “worked”
        is revealing to me.The moment of truth about tsemrinpoche.com blogs.

        Tay BT
        2:41am 22-10-2016

    • Joy on Oct 22, 2016 at 5:12 pm

      Thank you Mary Anne Thomas and welcome to H.E. Tsem Rinpoche’s blog. I totally agree with what you say here. “I am appalled at your rude comments here on the blog, putting down Pastors and yet you end your comments with holy mantras.” Nobody likes listening to a rude person whether one is making the right points or not. It just turns people off and even if what you have to say is true, it falls on death ears. I thank you for speaking up and also appreciate what you said about our good Pastors who always tries their best to genuine help.

      “A Great Deception : The Ruling Lama’s Policies” published by the Western Shugden Society (WSS),is not really what I would call a credible source. Many see it as a propaganda piece against the Dalai Lama. You can perhaps quote the original source of the information, and point out which information is relevant in the spirit of sharing, instead of just pointing out a book title. The WSS group does not represent Buddhism and monastics well, a group of monks/ nuns screaming “Dalai Lama Stop Lying” accusing Dalai Lama of lying gives a bad impression of Buddhist monastics.”

      What you said about the book, I can also agree as I have read this book and I actually found it quite tabloid-ish, as if out to just smear the Dalai Lama’s good name. It would have been taken more seriously if their approach and presentation was one that is objective instead of being too heavily one sided. We are taught to be logical and to allow people to weigh the options after presenting clear evidence and facts. I found it hard to accept some of the accusations and claims the book mentions. Overall I found it quite unbelievable and like you mentioned, it seems like it was more of a propaganda piece against Dalai Lama. So I for one would not deem it credible. Also who were the authors of this book that put all the pieces together, we need to ask this as well. Are highly attained masters, scholars with track records. I mean can we trust them for not being bias? After all we are all still just human.

      So thank you very much for bringing that to light. Look forward to seeing more of your comments.

  12. Tay BT on Oct 19, 2016 at 12:13 am

    Dear Tsem Rinpoche,

    How will “gold be tried by fire” here?

    Tay BT
    12:11am 19-10-2016

  13. Tay BT on Oct 19, 2016 at 12:07 am

    Dear Tsem Rinpoche ,

    I would appreciate it if ignorant “pastors” not reply to my questions.
    I have not issued any sharp statements yet to your “pastors”.
    So please tell them : unless they really do their homework , don’t waste my time with “lousy answers” e.g. Pastor David Lai.

    OM vajrasattva hung
    om vajrasattva ah
    om hri strih vikrtanana hung phat.

    “the gift of truth excels/is victorious over all gifts”.

    Therefore what gift of truth , Tsem Rinpoche ?

    Thank you.

    Tay BT
    12:02am 19-10-2016

    • Choong on Oct 20, 2016 at 4:45 pm

      Do you have anymore questions which I may try to help answer?

      • Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:33 pm

        Are you serious? Choong?
        Please answer all my questions.But please don’t do another Mary Anne Thomas and David Lai.Shameful.

        And if you need to ask Tsem Rinpoche – then do it.Don’t do a solo then problems.Choong.

        OK . You ask Tsem Rinpoche to say it like it is now!
        If you are really sincere in wanting to “help”.You are reading this—read nicely and properly now.Don’t waste time.

        I appreciate your offer to help but the help must be FFP(Fit For Purpose).

        Tay BT
        6:33pm 20-10-2016

        • Choong on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:55 pm

          So… erm… what is your question?

          • Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 7:05 pm

            Go and chant Shugden–ask him to increase your wisdom.How about that?Again your chanting should be FFP ?

            Tay BT
            7:04pm 20-10-2016

  14. Tay BT on Oct 18, 2016 at 1:52 pm

    Dear Tsem Rinpoche and Pastors ,

    The fact that Tulku Trakpa Gyaltsen was regarded by some Gelugpas as the actual reincarnation of the fourth Dalai Lama finds support in the following book(have you all read this book or not) :
    A Great Deception : The Ruling Lama’s Policies
    Western Shugden Society
    Tharpa Publications US

    This book has a lot of very “insider-like” information about the 5th Dalai Lama .
    E.g. The 5th Dalai Lama wanted to attack Tashi Lhunpo in relation to Norbu and Sonam Rabten.

    Please read this book.

    Like I mentioned : the gift of truth excels/is victorious over all gifts.

    Tay BT
    18-10-2016 1:45pm

    • Pastor David Lai on Oct 21, 2016 at 5:31 pm

      Dear Tay BT,

      I had been busy and could not respond to you earlier and I can see that you have been busy here too. From your answer, you seemed offended and I apologize that I have offended you but I stand by my answer as I have a basis to what I say.

      Now, remember that this is just a friendly debate discussion that we are all learning and so, there’s no need to react negatively or resort to name-calling that’s uncalled for. This is an open platform for anybody to voice their opinion and I think I have that right. And my opinion has a source and that is based on Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche’s writings and I have even quoted him to back what I say.

      Now, your opinion seemed to be heavily based on the Great Deception. I just want to ask is what is the source of the information in the Great Deception? On what basis can we believe in the ‘insider information’ contained in this book? Is it from a lama or historian?

  15. Tay BT on Oct 15, 2016 at 11:55 pm

    Dear Tsem Rinpoche ,

    Who was it who made the decision that Ngawang Lobsang Gyatso was to be the 5th Dalai Lama?Was it the Panchen Lama?
    What if Zim khang Gongma Tulku Trakpa Gyaltsen was the real Dalai Lama?He was also a candidate.
    Is it true that Ngawang Lobsang Gyatso(5th Dalai Lama) said that he could not recognize or pick out the belongings of the Mongolian born 4th Dalai Lama or rather Zimkhang Okma.Please correct me if I am wrong, and please add more details here.

    Is it true that Tulku Trakpa Gyaltsen told his attendant or disciple that if the allegations were not true smoke in the shape of a hand would be visible — and that was exactly what was seen during the cremation.

    Thank you.
    15-10-2016 11:52pm

    • Pastor Niral Patel on Oct 17, 2016 at 11:01 pm

      Dear Tay BT,

      I would like to help answer these questions for you. It was His Holiness the 4th Panchen Lama, Lobsang Chokyi Gyeltsen, who recognised Ngawang Lobsang Gyatso as the 5th Dalai Lama. In fact the 4th Panchen Lama was the guru of both the 5th Dalai Lama and Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen. This would have made them Dharma brothers. In fact they shared a very strong Dharma bond throughout their lives, it was marked by respect and admiration for each other.

      You are right that when searching for the reincarnation of the 4th Dalai Lama there was more than one candidate. Both Ngawang Lobsang Gyatso and Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen were short listed as the possible reincarnations. In the end the 4th Panchen lama recognised Ngawang Lobsang Gyatso as the reincarnation of the 4th Dalai Lama, whereas Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was recognised as the reincarnation of Panchen Sonam Drakpa. This was done through many tests and finally the use of dough-ball divination at Reteng Monastery by both the 4th Panchen Lama and Lingmey Zhabdrung, another great lama of the time. The divination results of both lamas recognised Ngawang Lobsang Gyatso as the genuine reincarnation of the 5th Dalai Lama.

      While Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was a candidate, the fact that His Holiness the 4th Panchen Lama recognised him as the reincarnation of Panchen Sonam Drakpa just goes to show that he was not in fact the reincarnation of the 4th Dalai Lama.

      In regards to the 5th Dalai Lama not recognising the personal belongings of the 4th Dalai Lama, this is mentioned in the 5th Dalai Lama’s in his own writings. In it he mentions that one of his tutors named Kuchupa Sangyey Sherab would always try to make him study harder to learn the teachings. If he did not then Kuchupa Sangyey Sherab threatened to tell everyone that he did not recognise the 4th Dalai Lama’s personal belongings during one of his tests. In fact, he threatened to tell everyone that the only reason he was selected as Dalai Lama was because he was related to the Tsangpa king, in an effort to appease him, thereby calming the growing tensions against the Gelugpa lineage. Interestingly, it was the 5th Dalai Lama himself who would put an end to the rule of the Tsangpa kings by unifying Tibet, with himself as both spiritual and secular leader.

      In regards to the cremation of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen’s cremation and the plume of smoke in the form of a hand, I have not come across this account before. From the accounts that I have read the plume rose after the funerary stupa finally caught fire once His Holiness the Dalai Lama’s verse of apology was read out and one of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen’s attendants smacked the side of the stupa with his zen, out of frustration that his lama did nothing to stop his own murder. I hope this helps.

      • Tay BT on Oct 18, 2016 at 8:10 am

        Thank you .

        Please allow me to point out that your statement,”it was the 5th Dalai Lama himself who would put an end to the rule of the Tsangpa kings by unifying Tibet” , is inaccurate/wrong .
        It was Zimkhang og ma Ngawang Lozang Gyatso’s secretary who asked the Mongols to invade and “take over”.They invited Gushri Khan .
        And it was “this group of people” as well who killed the Tsangpa king who was already defeated and jailed?Please correct me if I am wrong here.
        I really wonder what Panchen Lozang Chogyan may have said about all this.
        To kill a human being(s) : you break your monks vows and it is a parajika?To abet and/or cause to abet may be worse?

        Could you please ask Tsem Rinpoche to “spill the beans” about the allegations that were levelled against Zimkhang Gongma Tulku Trakpa Gyaltsen ?
        If he was the dharma brother of Zimkhang Ogma Ngawang Lozang Gyatso why did the latter refer to him as some damsi?

        Is it true that the scarf that Nangso Norbu used was the same scarf that the 5th Dalai Lama offered to Tulku Trakpa Gyaltsen after the latter defeated the former in a debate?

        Why was Tulku Trakpa Gyaltsen considered such a serious threat?There are accounts that he started to overshadow the 5th Dalai Lama.

        Could you please ask Tsem Rinpoche about the rationale behind the rumours that Desi Sangye Gyatso was the 5th Dalai Lama’s son?

        Did the 5th Dalai Lama succumb to politics when he asked Sangye Gyatso to keep secret his demise?Does this not break the precept of not telling a lie , one of the 5 basic precepts?

        We are now in the 21st century where is there unparalleled access to information or “intelligence” on the Zimkhang Gongma-Zimkhang Ogma Tulku Trakpa Gyaltsen-NgawangLozang Gyatso dispute.

        “the gift of truth excels/is victorious over all gifts”.

        Hope to hear from you and Tsem Rinpoche again.

        Om a ra pa ca na dhiih.

        Tay BT
        18-10-2016 8:09am

        • Pastor David Lai on Oct 18, 2016 at 6:37 pm

          Dear Tay BT,
          Nice to see your in-depth comments and questions here. You seemed to be asking a lot on the nitty-gritty details about the events that unfolded between the Great Fifth Dalai Lama and Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen. What are you trying to uncover? Are you trying to say that the Fifth Dalai Lama is an impostor on the throne and actually Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen, by right should have been the Fifth Dalai Lama? Your questions seemed to skewed in that direction. That’s what it sounds like to me.

          “I really wonder what Panchen Lozang Chogyan may have said about all this. To kill a human being(s) : you break your monks vows and it is a parajika?To abet and/or cause to abet may be worse?”
          – Definitely the great Panchen would have advised against it and that killing breaks monk vows. What makes you think this does not apply to the Fifth Dalai Lama or the Panchen Lama?

          “Could you please ask Tsem Rinpoche to “spill the beans” about the allegations that were levelled against Zimkhang Gongma Tulku Trakpa Gyaltsen ? If he was the dharma brother of Zimkhang Ogma Ngawang Lozang Gyatso why did the latter refer to him as some damsi?”
          – I think there is nothing to ask. High Lamas look upon the controversial actions of certain High Lamas to be a divine play. That means they appear negative, controversial in the beginning but later, it will play out to the benefit of the teachings and the lineage in the end. Sometimes, great beings appear to be against each other, eg. Ra Lotsawa and the 13 lamas he had dispatched. Some High Lama’s realization is so great that they are able to bring about tremendous benefit even when their actions seemed damaging. In the case of Ra Lotsawa, he defended the new Yamantaka tantras and displayed the power of the Yamantaka meditations. In the case of Fifth Dalai Lama and Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen, it seems to be a divine play as well. Perhaps, the Dalai Lama is pushing people to learn more about Dorje Shugden and proliferating the practice. Over time, we will see the effects of what the Dalai Lama has done.

          ” Is it true that the scarf that Nangso Norbu used was the same scarf that the 5th Dalai Lama offered to Tulku Trakpa Gyaltsen after the latter defeated the former in a debate? ”
          – I have not heard of this and cannot comment. I don’t see relevance in checking on such details unless it is from a credible source.

          ” Why was Tulku Trakpa Gyaltsen considered such a serious threat?There are accounts that he started to overshadow the 5th Dalai Lama. ”
          – According to Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche’s own writings in Music Delighting the Ocean of Protectors, It was the assistants around the Fifth Dalai Lama who saw Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen as a threat and not the lama himself. Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen indeed was very famous and at one point eclipsing the Fifth Dalai Lama. Hence, the attendants and assistants became infuriated and hatched the plan to assassinate Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen.

          ” Did the 5th Dalai Lama succumb to politics when he asked Sangye Gyatso to keep secret his demise?Does this not break the precept of not telling a lie , one of the 5 basic precepts? ”
          – The Fifth Dalai Lama’s position was both a political and spiritual one. But you are not talking about an ordinary lama here who can have his practice degenerate. You are talking about a bodhisattva, whose actions throughout incarnations continue to reverberate with incredible benefits. Even the current Liberation in the palm of your hand as taught by Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche combines the south lamrim tradition that include the commentary by the FIfth Dalai Lama, Manjushri’s Own Words. This is just one of many great deeds of the Fifth Dalai Lama that shows he is not an ordinary being.

          Conclusion:
          You may or may not agree with what I have to say but I have an advice, please look at the overall beneficial works of the lama and not just focus on a few small nitty-gritty wrong-doings. You may not have the wisdom to see the actual intent of the lama at each scenario but you can always check with other High Lama who have the clairvoyance to perceive the intent and what their views of the Dalai Lama. Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche thinks very highly of the Fifth Dalai Lama and the current Dalai Lama. In fact, he says…

          “But some who are narrow minded, not understanding this point, consider this Dharmapala to be like an ordinary worldly being and, with supposed faith in the Dalai Lama and the Panchen Lama, disparage him; or else they indeed admire this great Dharmapala but criticize the Dalai Lama or Panchen Lama. Using either one as a reason not to admire the other and speaking badly about either in any way is the conduct of an ordinary being who, under the influence of attachment and hatred, just tries to help friends and hurt enemies…”

          • Tay BT on Oct 18, 2016 at 11:48 pm

            Dear Pastor David Lai ,

            “not just focus on a few small nitty-gritty wrong-doings.”, certainly exposes your ignorance about the 5th Dalai Lama – Tulku Trakpa Gyaltsen relations, and the politics .Ignorance my dear Pastor David Lai.

            Have you actually gone into the literature or are you just using some “set piece” to answer my questions?It betrays a certain profile of stereotypical mind set.But this is just my own impression.

            So it is all a play then for you – even the threats to Trijang Choktrul who is now a layman , who had to flee India for the US????
            So it is another play for Tsem Rinpoche to try and get the ban lifted?And also to write so much about Dorje Shugden?

            OK. I feel that your arrogance is going to get in the way of having a proper discussion based on the literature that is available.

            So , please don’t reply unless you have more facts , not just so and so said.Weak,Pastor David Lai!

            Om a ra pa ca na dhi.
            Om ya ma ra ja ……..hung hung phat phat svaha
            Om yamantaka hung phat.
            Om hri strih vikritanana hung phat.
            om vajra vetali agaccha agaccha hung jah svaha.

            Tay BT
            11:47pm 18-10-2016

            There are many high lamas. In fact there may be more wonderful “ordinary geshes/people” who are better able to answer and benefit beings.

          • Tay BT on Oct 18, 2016 at 11:58 pm

            Pastor David Lai ,

            I will give you another chance to redeem yourself.First attempt—fail.Miserable.

            Who are you to comment when you are ignorant and fail to do your homework about the 5th Dalai Lama – Tulku Trakpa Gyaltsen and the politics?Make sure your statements are credible first before giving/dishing out ignorant advice or is this how you all work?

            Your title “Pastor” means nothing to me .Have you not learnt the four reliances?

            Go ask Tsem Rinpoche now.

            Tay BT
            11:57pm 18-10-2016

          • Joy on Oct 22, 2016 at 5:39 pm

            Dear Pastor David,

            I just want to say thank you for your patience and answers. I have actually learnt a lot from it and really appreciate how you have presented your points/facts which are from sources we can trust such as Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche’s own writings in Music Delighting the Ocean of Protectors.

            Your explanation was very clear to me and I liked your conclusion which is a great reminder for us all to remain impartial when the moment comes which is what’s happening now, a controversy over Dorje Shugden’s practice and to our ordinary appearing to be in huge conflict with the Dalai Lama’s stand point.

            Many of us may not or cannot accept this of course, nor do we agree, however, we should still try our best to behave in a polite (Buddhist or not) manner at least when we are in discussion of such sensitive issues, because our aim to learn to gain knowledge instead of lay blame. We also do not want to appear just one sided, and get too emotional/personal, then we are no better than those anti-Shugden fanatics who abuse us daily with hateful discriminatory remarks. Certainly we do not need more hateful words from our so called own Shugdenpas. Being logical and objective is much more universally appealing and helps in delivering our message better in my humble opinion.

            So thanks again for your input, I personally thought it was good. 🙂

        • Choong on Oct 20, 2016 at 5:00 pm

          Dear Tay BT,

          They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

          This picture is painted on the wall of Jokhang Monastery. Tell me what do you think? Who was behind bringing in Gushri Khan as an ally?

          I really don’t know the exact answer but like you, I have formed some of my own conclusions just like others may.

          P.S. The mural shows Gushri Khan paying tribute to Desi Sangye Gyatso

          GushriKhanOfferingTributeToSangyeGyatsoafter5thDLDied105542771.iP16WIeC.TibetOct08065

          • Tay BT on Oct 20, 2016 at 6:50 pm

            Choong, be a good boylah/girl lah(what is your sex?).

            Ask Tsem Rinpoche to explain the whole thing.He has a lot of insider information.You need to get the info from Tibetans or westerners who have in depth knowledge.And what you want is the “insider stuff” level of information.
            Do your homework now, want or not?Quickly lah.

            Tay BT
            6:49pm 20-10-2016

          • Joy on Oct 22, 2016 at 4:53 pm

            Thank you Choong for pointing this interesting link http://www.dorjeshugden.org/blog/the-hidden-name-of-dorje-shugden-in-the-kangyur

            Looks like Dorje Shugden was mentioned way before even the existence of a Dalai Lama.

            “Dorje Shugden’s name written in the Kangyur, hidden in a passage about the names of Manjushri.

            The Kangyur is a collection of texts recording the spoken teachings of the historical Buddha Shakyamuni. Works to translate this immense text from the traditional Sanskrit language to Tibetan script had begun since the 7th Century.”

            This is such an amazing discovery that even Lord Buddha himself have mentioned Dorje Shugden. Buddha cannot be wrong, and if Dorje Shugden was a demon as the Tibetan Leadership claims, then why do keep unveiling more and more evidences of the opposite. It just goes to show that Dorje Shugden is indeed enlightened and what the Tibetan Leadership is trying to do, is rewrite history. Unfortunately, you cannot rewrite everything, sorry not Buddha’s words. Thanks Choong!

            And another amazing thing is that it was Buton Rinchen Drub, known as the great Zhalu scholar and translator, edit and translated the encyclopaedic Kangyur and Tangyur into the Tibetan language. And surprise surprise, he is also recognised as one of the previous incarnations of Dorje Shugden. It just amazes me how it is all connected one full circle.

  16. Wan Wai Meng on Sep 19, 2016 at 3:41 am

    I really do think it was fortuitous that the Sakya tradition hosted Dorje Shudgen after Dorje Shugden manifested, prior to Dorje Shudgen becoming more prevalent during Je Pabongka’s time within the Gelug tradition.

    The ban on Dorje Shugden has far reaching consequences for the Gelug and Sakya traditions, if the Gelug is invalidated because of Dorje Shugden the same can be inferred to the Sakya tradition as well. In addition for the many people, who has never been Tibetan Buddhists before, the blue ocean out there, because of the ban they may never get to know about how beneficial Dorje Shugden and Tsongkhapa’s teachings to be. Hope the ban will come down really quickly, and the Sakyas will once again be able to take on the practice of Dorje Shugden.

  17. Tsem Rinpoche on Sep 15, 2016 at 3:20 am

    Trode Khangsar Chapel in Lhasa, Tibet

    Over 400 years ago a great and learned lama Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was famed in Mongolia, Tibet, Nepal and China for being very saintly and compassionate. He resided in his residence (Zimkhang Gongma Ladrang) in Drepung Monastery. His root guru was H.H. the Omniscient 4th Panchen Lama and his close dharma brother was the 5th Dalai Lama.

    The 5th Dalai Lama and Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen had a very close and dharmic relationship and often went to receive teachings together from the 4th Panchen Lama. They were close in age. They both became very learned and well known. During this time, the Dalai Lama was enthroned as a Dharma King of Tibet. But more people went to see Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen for teachings, initiations and divinations. This made the attendants of the 5th Dalai Lama feel threatened that Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen’s fame might usurp the power of the 5th Dalai Lama. So they had a khata forced down his throat. At that moment, Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen dissolved his psychic winds and generated the wish to be a great guardian of Buddha and Tsongkapa’s teachings. As his consciousness dissolved, he entered ‘bardo’ as a dharma protector of the highest order (jikten depey sungma). Many signs were seen throughout Lhasa at this time and the earth was said to have shaken in Lhasa. This event was already predicted to Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen’s previous incarnation when he was one of the 8 main disciples of Lord Tsongkapa the Supreme Master and he served Tsongkapa directly by building Gaden Monastery.

    When the 5th Dalai Lama heard what his scheming and power-hungry attendants had done, he was very distressed. He was very sorry Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen was murdered and dishonored as he was a great dharma master. The 5th Dalai Lama composed an apology to Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen. In Lhasa, tens of thousands gathered for the cremation of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen’s holy body. During the cremation, the 5th Dalai Lama’s apology was read out at which flames spontaneously arose from the body of Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen commencing the cremation. From the body, during cremation, a powerful whirlwind of smoke tunneled into the sky for all to see as this was an indication Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen’s consciousness has arisen as the Dharma Protector Dorje Shugden. The Dharma Protector Setrap immediately recognized this new protector Dorje Shugden and ‘enthroned’ him as a powerful Dharma Protector in the realm of the Buddhas. From this, Setrap and Dorje Shugden are closely connected and very close working hand in hand always. After the cremation, the great 5th Dalai Lama built a Dorje Shugden chapel on the spot the cremation took place and named it Trode Khangsar. The 5th Dalai Lama commissioned the statue of Dorje Shugden in this chapel and had monks installed in the chapel to do continuous propitiations to Dorje Shugden. Trode Khangsar Chapel was a commemoration to Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen who was wronged and also a celebration of his consciousness arising as the World Peace Peace Protector Dorje Shugden.

    This Trode Khangsar Chapel still exists now in Lhasa where many make pilgrimages there. It is in good condition and was recently renovated. It is over 400 years old and a testimony to the respect the Great 5th Dalai Lama had to Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen who arose as Dorje Shugden.

    I have visited this holy chapel in Lhasa years back. I’ve never heard of it till I was in Lhasa and by chance, I was told about it which I was happy to visit. I could not find the place but strangely a bunch of pilgrims from Amdo told me they would show me how to get there in Lhasa.

    This short video is a short clip of this holy Trode Khangsar Chapel in Lhasa today commemorating Dorje Shugden, built by the great 5th Dalai Lama. The great 5th Dalai Lama even composed a prayer to Dorje Shugden which is still available today and we can recite to invoke the blessings, protection, and assistance of World Peace Protector Dorje Shugden.

    Tsem Rinpoche


    Read more: Trode Khangsar – A 400-year-old Dorje Shugden Chapel in Lhasa
    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/dorje-shugden/trode-khangsar-%E2%80%93-a-400-year-old-dorje-shugden-chapel-in-lhasa.html

    Short video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTybDwTeLAM

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    The 5th Dalai Lama’s Prayer to Dorje Shugden

    HUM
    Though unmoving from the sphere of primordial spontaneity,
    With wrathful turbulent power, swifter than lightning,
    Endowed with heroic courage to judge good and bad,
    I invite you with faith, please come to this place!

    Robes of a monk, crown adorned with rhinoceros leather hat,
    Right hand holds ornate club, left holds a human heart,
    Riding various mounts such as nagas and garudas,
    Who subdues the mamos of the charnel grounds, praise to you!

    Samaya substances, offerings and torma, outer, inner and secret,
    Favourite visual offerings and various objects are arranged.
    Although, previously, my wishes were a bit dense,
    Do not stop your powerful apparitions, I reveal and confess!

    Now respectfully praising with body, speech, and mind,
    For us, the masters, disciples, benefactors and entourages,
    Provide the good and avert the bad!
    Bring increase like the waxing moon in spiritual and temporal realms!

    Moreover, swiftly accomplishing all wishes,
    According to our prayers, bestow the supreme effortlessly!
    And like the jewel that bestows all wishes,
    Always protect us with the Three Jewels!

    From: http://www.dorjeshugden.org/practice/the-5th-dalai-lamas-prayer-to-dorje-shugden

    Tibetan prayer from: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/dorje-shugden/the-14th-dalai-lamas-prayer-to-dorje-shugden.html

  18. Shane Jayasuriya on Jun 19, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche and team for this Article. Its good to know that sakya tradition too had practice Doje shugden, Dorje setrap and kache marpo. I like the questions and answers in this article, learnt a lot from it.

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  19. CindyH on May 13, 2016 at 11:52 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche and team for such a highly informative article. Through this, I now have a clearer picture on how prominent the practice of Dorje Shugden was within the Sakya tradition prior to it being “disowned” by the current Sakya Trinzin.

    What stood out for me was the several interesting parallels on the reverence of Dorje Shugden between the Gelug and Sakya tradition, namely,

    • Prior to the ban, there was no doubt as to the enlightened status of Dorje Shugden and Dorje Shugden practice goes quite far back for both traditions.

    • The enlightened status of Dorje Shugden has even been attested to by the spiritual heads and throneholders of both traditions.

    • Reincarnations of Dorje Shugden are found in the lineages of both traditions.

    • In both traditions, there are praises to Dorje Shugden composed by highly attained Lamas. (e.g Prayer to Dorje Shugden which is composed by the Great 5th Dalai Lama and Praise to Dorje Shugden by the 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro).

    Based on the high esteem in which both traditions held for the practice of Dorje Shugden, it goes to show that that Dorje Shugden is not sectarian but protects and guides all who intends to pursue a spiritual path.

    In addition, by claiming that Dorje Shugden is an unenlightened spirit or demon, it is in effect bringing to question the authenticity of the entire lineage of both traditions considering that;

    • If Dorje Shugden really is a demon, then the high Lamas of past (and present) who has propitiated (or still is propitiating) Dorje Shugden would have broken their refuge vows.

    • If those high Lamas have indeed broken their refuge vow, the sutric and tantric practices which such Lamas have passed on would accordingly be invalid and the lineage blessings would be broken.

  20. Stella Cheang on May 13, 2016 at 1:19 pm

    This was an edifying read as it provides us with many points to ponder on.

    1. Often times we heard that Dorje Shugden is a sectarian practice. The fact that Dorje Shugden was a common practice within the Sakya lineage is a good enough evidence to refute the accusation. Dorje Shugden was enthroned as the protector of the Sakya tradition even before He was widely practiced in the Gelugpa tradition.
    a.Sakya reliance on Dorje Shugden began with the 30th Sakya Trizin Sonam Rinchen (1705 – 1741)
    b.The practice was passed down to the 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro (1729 – 1783), who was believed to be the emanation of Dorje Shugden himself. During his lifetime, Kunga Lodro composed a Dorje Shugden kangsol (prayer) to invoke the blessings of Dorje Shugden. The kangsol is still being widely used today.
    c.The list of Sakya Trizin who practiced Dorje Shugden besides Sonam Richen and Kunga Lodro are 32nd Sakya Trizin Wangdu Nyingpo, 33rd Pema Dudul Wangchuk, 35th Tashi Rinchen, 37th Kunga Nyingpo and 39th Dragshul Trinley Rinchen.

    2. Sakya Trizins who relied on Dorje Shugden referred to him as an enlightened being. This is significant because of the spiritual position of the Sakya Trizins. They are not just any ordinary monk but are actually spiritual heads and throneholders of the Sakya tradition; one of the major schools within Tibetan Buddhism. This is a position equal in rank to the spiritual heads of other major traditions such as the Gaden Tripa of the Gelug school or the Karmapa of the Karma Kagyu school.

    3. If the Sakya Trizin practiced Dorje Shugden and composed 149 pages worth of Kangsol for Him, it was therefore not a minor practice of the Sakyas as claimed by some. The practice must had brought benefits and the Sakya Trizin felt strongly enough to compose such an extensive text to propitiate the deity. If the deity was a minor spirit with little benefit to sentient beings, would a Sakya Trizin spend time, energy and effort to compose such an extensive supplicatory texts for them to propitiate?

    4. The praise to Dorje Shugden is essential because remind us Dorje Shugden’s previous life as the Vinaya-holder (Dulzin) Drakpa Gyeltsen (1374-1434), He was a pure monk who had made the great aspiration to arise as a Protector of the teachings. The teachings are protected when a person learns the Dharma, practices the Dharma and then teaches it.

    5. In the praise, it also clearly stated that He is an enlightened being as He provides you with the means of achieving enlightenment; i.e. brings resources, brings practitioners to their gurus who expound the path out of suffering, blesses them so that they are able to receive and understand the teachings.

    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this article; we should trust Him fully and to create the causes for ourselves to become a fully enlightened being eventually.

    Humbly, bowing down,
    Stella Cheang

    • Tsem Rinpoche on May 13, 2016 at 10:23 pm

      Stella,

      I can see from your comments, you really took the time to read, digest and understand the situation. We all work hard to do research and provide information. To bring down the ban, we have to use knowledge and with knowledge what is untrue will fade in time. It is rewarding to see you take the time to understand the whole unethical ban against peaceful loving people who wish to practice their religion of Dorje Shugden without being discriminated against. There is a ban. There are stringent measures by Tibetan govt in exile to restrict and make the lives of Dorje Shugden practitioners difficult, but this is exposed now more and more. This is a comprehensive post on the ban situation: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=99652

      I am not proud or happy to expose them and publish all this information on my blog. But many do not dare to speak out because there are serious repercussions. Why did I speak out, because human rights violations in the form of religious bigotry is not right. Why live our lives in a way that hurts others? I do not wish to write and publish all these blog posts on what the Tibetan leadership is doing to so many. I can use my time on so many other more useful subjects. But if I don’t write, then the pain they have created in so many will continue without a resolution. I am certainly not a hero and do not enjoy all this ‘attention’ for writing/publishing all the information on this blog, but one thing for sure, it’s the lesser of the two evils. To keep quiet and watch the suffering or to speak up and hope the suffering will eventually fade. I guess I chose to speak up as unhappy as I am about it.

      Tsem Rinpoche

      5-13-2016 10-20-39 PM

      • Stella Cheang on May 14, 2016 at 9:49 pm

        Thank you Rinpoche for this message and teaching. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” It is both poignant and inspirational to see Rinpoche speak out about the ban peacefully. We will not sit still and watch our fellow Dorje Shugden practitioners suffer the abuse. I will do my best to let more people know about the truth.

        Humbly, my head to Rinpoche’s feet,
        Stella Cheang

      • Harold Musetescu on Jun 2, 2016 at 10:52 am

        Hello Rinpoche,
        Have you ever thought of the reasons behind the Sakya Sect choosing Dorje Shugden as a Dharmapala?
        One possible missed theory is they chose him for revenge against the Dalai Lama. Dorje Shugden was chosen by Sakya Trizin to DESTROY THE DALAI LAMA AND HIS GOVERNMENT.
        The Sakya were overthrown by the Dalai Lama and his Mongolian friend Gushri Khan and his army. They marched down from Mongolia and overthrew the Sakya who were the RULERS OF TIBET. They crushed the Sakya monk soldiers, murdered Sakya monks and destroyed their monasteries. The Dalai Lama was now the new GOD KING OF TIBET and the Sakya were OUT. The Sakya now SERVED UNDER THE RULE OF THE DALAI LAMA AND HAVE DONE SO FOR CENTURIES.
        The Sakya would have know of Dorje Shugden and all the FAILED ATTEMPTS TO DESTROY HIM by the Dalai Lama. Their enemies enemy would now be their new friend or should I say their new DHARMAPALA.
        Dorje Shugden would now be used by the various Sakya Trizin’s in rituals to try and destroy the Dalai Lama. They would do this in an attempt to regain what was taken from them by force,TIBET. The Dalai Lama WAS the enemy of all Sakya and I believe STILL IS.
        The present day Sakya Trizin is formally recognized as the holder of the SECOND highest throne in Tibetan Buddhism. The 14th Dalai Lama is the holder of the HIGHEST throne. The Sakya Trizin’s want their throne back, they want to return to the HIGHEST throne in Tibet.
        Just another version of “THE GAME OF THRONES”.
        Rinpoche we both know that BLACK MAGIC AND THEIR RITUALS have been and continue to be used to this very day. We can all understand the hatred the Tibetans hold against their Chinese masters. Why can we not agree that the Sakya would also hold hatred against their MASTER, THE DALAI LAMA AND HIS LINEAGE.
        Maybe just maybe Rinpoche this is way Dorje Shugden was chosen by the Sakya to one of their “Three Spirit Kings”.

  21. Harold Musetescu on May 1, 2016 at 7:28 pm

    Hello Rinpoche
    Thank you for this article and your insights on Lamo Tsangpa the Oracle of Tsangpa Karpo. Lamo Tsangpa is the third highest State Oracle of Tibet with the Nechung first and the Gadong Oracle second.
    Both the Lamo Tsangpa and the Gadong Oracle lineage are a family and not monastic lineage. That means that their SONS carry on the Oracle lineage upon the passing of the father.
    As you mentioned Lamo Tsangpa passed away on April 24, 2003. Since his death none of his four sons has been chosen by Tsangpa Karpo as worthy enough to be his next Oracle.
    There could be a reason for this not happening. In 1995 Lamo Tsangpa went into trance and publicly condemned the practice of Dorje Shugden. I believe Lamo Tsangpa lied and did not go into an actual trance. How could the peaceful emanation of Setrap condemn Dorje Shugden when it was Setrap who saved Dorje Shugden from death? We all know how Setrap the wrathful emanation of Tsangpa Karpo saved Dorje Shugden from death at the hands of Mindrolling Rinpoche during his fire puja. Setrap also lead Dorje Shugden to his new home with the Sakya. So how can Lamo Tsangpa condemn Dorje Shugden when Dorje Shugden was saved by Setrap? This is illogical and shows the corruption of Lamo Tsangpa and why none of his SONS are worthy enough in the eyes of Tsangpa Karpo to be his next Oracle.
    We must remember that it was the 14th Dalai Lama who gave the State Oracle postion to Lamo Tsangpa. With that Lamo Tsangpa became a very powerful man within the Dalai Lama’s and CTA’s circles. How would he repay the Dalai Lama for his now new LIFE TIME EMPLOYMENT AS THE THIRD HIGHEST STATE ORACLE OF TIBET? BY DOING AND SAYING WHAT THE DALAI LAMA TELLS HIM TO DO AND SAY????
    Finally you posted Lamo Tsangpa’s death notification and it shows how he suffered with heart disease for many years prior to his death. Could this have been caused by the Tsangpa Karpo to punish him for his public lies about Dorje Shugden.
    Thank you from the bottom of my heart Rinpoche for being the world leader in publicly fighting for Dorje Shugden against the Dalai Lama and his puppet CTA.

    • Pastor Elena Khong Jean Ai on May 3, 2016 at 7:37 am

      Hi Harold,

      Thank you for your comment. I did not know that in 1995, Lamo Tsangpa took trance and condemned Dorje Shugden. You’re absolutely right in saying that “How could the peaceful emanation of Setrap condemn Dorje Shugden when it was Setrap who saved Dorje Shugden from death? We all know how Setrap the wrathful emanation of Tsangpa Karpo saved Dorje Shugden from death at the hands of Mindrolling Rinpoche during his fire puja. Setrap also lead Dorje Shugden to his new home with the Sakya.” – that is something I’ll bear in the mind for the future.

      What I did hear is that many people doubt the authenticity of the current trances, and the identity of the deities inhabiting the oracles’ bodies. They say this is due to the broken samaya of the state oracles as well as the broken samaya of the Tibetan leadership that the wrong deities enter when the invocation chants are done. For example, it’s known that it’s not Pehar who takes trance of the Nechung Oracle but another spirit that’s malicious/malevolent in nature, and has been giving inaccurate prophecies over the years to lead to the decline to the Tibetan leadership’s influence.

      I don’t think the oracle suffered heart disease as a punishment from Tsangpa Karpo because if he’s the peaceful emanation of Setrap (who is an enlightened Dharma Protector), then Setrap doesn’t take revenge or punish? If anything, it would more likely be the fruitioning of negative karma that resulted from false proclamations (which therefore contributed to the ban)…but who knows for sure?

      People also have to bear in mind that enlightened beings like Dorje Shugden can inhabit an oracle, but at the end of the day the oracle out of trance is just an ordinary man. Whether or not they are a good person is dependent on their practice too.

      • Harold Musetescu on May 3, 2016 at 8:15 pm

        Thank you for your quick reply. I don’t believe another spirit enters either the Nechung Oracle or the Tenma Oracle or the now deceased Lamo Tsangpa Oracle. I believe that then do not go into trance but only pretend to. Why would they do such a thing? Ask the Dalai Lama who profits from their false pronouncements. They all owe their LIFE TIME JOBS to the Dalai Lama and the CTA. Without their FINANCIAL and OFFICIAL support they would all so be looking for new jobs. The Dalai Lama has for life times used his Oracles to threaten and bully his people and HIS Government. Just last month in April he used the Nechung and Tenma Oracles to ORDER the CTA to show more respect to the Dalai Lama and his policies. The Dalai Lama knows the faith his people place in Oracles and he is using that faith to push his way around. No I do not thing their are bad spirits at play just the old tried and true spirits of Tibetan politics and power. The only spirit that enters the Nechung, Tenma and the late Lamo Tsangpa is the evil spirit of the 14th Dalai Lama.

  22. Edward Ooi on Apr 30, 2016 at 7:21 am

    First of all, Thank You Rinpoche for sharing this article. I have learnt quite a lot from this article. The thing that I like most about this article is the English translation of the Dorje Shugden praise written by the 31st Sakya Trizin Kunga Lodro. I find it interesting because of the content of what he wrote and the meanings behind the praise.

    In my opinion, I would say that the current Sakya Trizin is wrong about the issue of Dorje Shugden. Sakya Trizin are known to be teachers to their own son/grandson, so by saying that, isn’t he just spreading bad news of his forefathers? Also, 30th, 31st, 32nd, 33rd, 35th, 37th and 39th Sakya Trizin are all Dorje Shugden practitioners. The 39th Sakya Trizin even stated that his father, the 37th Sakya Trizin is an emanation of Dorje Shugden himself. If all these Sakya Trizin (the ones that I have listed) all practice Dorje Shugden well, they do not break their vows. What about the current one? The current Sakya Trizin says that he does not practice Dorje Shugden and also says that Dorje Shugden a Gyalpo, does this mean that all of the previous Sakya Trizin (who practices Dorje Shugden) are wrong? How can all of the 7 Sakya Trizin that practices Dorje Shugden be wrong and the current Sakya Trizin is the only one who is correct about Dorje Shugden? It is just not possible. Also, how can the 37th Sakya Trizin be an emanation of sole called Gyalpo? It is just not possible, if it is doesn’t it mean that the Sakya lineage has already lost their blessings? This is just wrong.

    To this day, this is something that I still don’t get. The Dalai Lama is Chenrizig himself, but why is he raising all these disharmonious events to make people turn their back on their own kind? Dorje Shugden is obviously an enlightened being so why is he still against DS practice? Even if Dorje Shugden is a Gyalpo, is it a really good reason for him to create so many havocs? If Dorje Shugden is truly an evil Gyalpo, Dalai Lama could have just eliminate it. Then why is he talking more than what he should be doing? The answer shows clearly that Dorje Shugden is not a Gyalpo or an evil spirit Please Dalai Lama, lift the ban up. For our fellow DS practitioners in India and Nepal. Shouldn’t this be what the Dalai Lama should be doing all along? To promote religious freedom? Then please lift the ban up quickly, lift up the discrimination that DS practitioners face every day. Thank you for reading.

  23. Pastor Adeline on Apr 28, 2016 at 9:35 am

    The above article is another thorough and logical teachings of Rinpoche on the Dorje Shugden practice in the Sakya lineage.

    The CTA and many anti-Shugden people like to degrade Dorje Shugden by calling Him dogyal, a king spirit from Do, claiming His nature is a spirit. It is true that Dorje Shugden together with Setrap and Tsui Marpo (Kache Marpo) are referred to as the gyalpo sum, the three spirit kings, by name in both the Sakya and Gelug lineage but that doesn’t mean that their nature is a spirit. Before Dorje Shugden was propitiated in the Gelug lineage, the 30th Sakya Trizin Ngawang Sonam Rinchen first enthroned and accepted Dorje Shugden as a protector. Trizin is a throne-holder, same as Tripa used in the Gelug school for Gaden Tripa; both are lineage holders, the person who kept the lineage teachings, practiced and taught it to others unmistakenly. A person of this calibre would have the wisdom to tell whether Dorje Shugden’s nature is enlightened or not.

    An enlightened Buddha is limitless; he has the abilities to manifest and emanate in different forms according to the needs of his audience. Not like most of us, some spiritual practitioners can recognize these emanations due to their spiritual attainments. These attainments are the results from the practice of the Buddha’s teachings thus allowing the said practitioners the clarity to recognize any emanations of the Buddha. This clarity is the quality that the Sakya Trizin and Gaden Tripa possess. They have the ability to absorb the massive corpus teachings of the lineage, practice them and gained attainments from them without mistakes. Therefore, they have the clarity to tell Dorje Shugden is an emanation of Manjushri though He emanated as a king spirit by type and by name.

    The name gyalpo is what the CTA held on firmly, ignoring the ability of a Buddha and the lineage masters. When CTA insisted Dorje Shugden is a spirit, they directly put down the lineage and the lineage masters and deny of their clarity of mind and spiritual attainments. Dorje Shugden was enthroned, praised, propitiated by SEVEN Sakya Trizins, some of which is the emanation of Dorje Shugden, and some wrote lengthy kangsol and prayer. Their actions are the clear evidence of Dorje Shugden’s nature, and His practice as a major one.

    As a Dorje Shugden practitioner, seeing the evidence presented on this post, I have gained stronger faith in Dorje Shugden. I choose to believe in all the lineage masters and highly attained beings, including my Guru, His Eminence the 25th Tsem Rinpoche, for they have the clarity to see the truth as compared to the ordinary people at the CTA who are still deluded by the three poisons.

  24. Pastor Antoinette Kass on Apr 27, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    Dear Rinpoche,

    Thank You for this extensive post about Sakya Trizin’s Dorje Shugden. The 30th Sakya Trizin Sonam Rinchen (1705 – 1741) enthroned and worshipped Dorje Shugden as a Dharma protector.

    And not only one Sakya Trizin encouraged his practice but three Sakya Trizin! How could three Sakya Trizin be mistaken? So it is clear that not only the Gelug sect relied on Dorje Shugden but also the Sakya sect.

    The many beautiful pictures and the whole Kangsol show also evidence about Dorje Shugden’s enlightened nature.

    I will read the post again especially the question and answer part. The fact that the practice of Dorje Shugden is about 350 years tells us a lot about his nature. Indeed, Buddhism is fully relying on lineage. Nothing is just made up. Yet, H.H. the Dalai Lama is going against his own teachers by speaking out a ban against Dorje Shugden. In the same way the current Sakya Trizin cannot speak up against Dorje Shugden as this would speak against the lineage of the Sakya Trizins.

    May the Dalai Lama make up his mind and end the ban against Dorje Shugden practitioners quickly.

    with folded hands,
    Pastor Antoinette

  25. Pastor David Lai on Apr 27, 2016 at 5:40 pm

    I think this article is fantastic because it reveals powerful information that highlights the practice of Dorje Shugden within the Sakyas. The info shows how deeply Dorje Shugden was practiced within the Sakyas that even the highest patriarchs, Sakya Trizin would compose such extensive texts on Dorje Shugden. Not only that, 2 Sakya Trizins are traditionally considered to be incarnations of Dorje Shugden himself – 31st Kunga Lodro and 37th Kunga Nyingpo. This goes to show Dorje Shugden is not a mere spirit.

    On the other hand, what makes me wonder is why no scholarly lama or disciple within the Sakya tradition has considered these points along with many others mentioned in this text? The fact is if we undermine Dorje Shugden as a minor practice, we are undermining the Sakya throneholders themselves and their legitimacy to uphold the lineage because they literally prayed to a spirit. What happens if we break our refuge by relying on a spirit? All good knowledgeable Buddhist would know that refuge is the basis for all teachings and practices. Hence, how could anybody within the Sakya tradition claim that Dorje Shugden is a spirit when he was relied within the Sakya school for hundreds of years.

  26. Vinnie Tan on Apr 27, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for this great article. It indeed shows that the Sakya lineage has been doing Dorje Shugden practices from the time of the 31st Sakya Trizin till today. It also make sense to why would the Sakya Trizin say something that is not the case of his true practices.

    Since Dorje Shugden is first enthroned in the Sakya lineage even before the Gelugpas started to do the practices, it shows clearly that Dorje Shugden is not sectarian. How can this protector be sectarian when the practice is being done by different lineages?

    Through the article it has made me think further what is the purpose to this ban and why did the Sakya Trizin even go against his own practices. Why is it so important for him to say that he does not do the practice when it is evident that during exile and while he was situated in Buxa refugee camp, he did the practices of Dorje Shugden and it is known by all older monks that were at the same camp as well. Why go against what you do and say that you did not. It is interesting that maybe because of the political pressure that he may have received that forced him to speak up only in 2008 and not immediately when the ban on Dorje Shugden first came about in 1996. I find it very interesting to the reason of why Sakya Trizin spoke against the practice.

    Thank you Rinpoche for this amazing article that will help clear many questions that people have in their minds.

  27. Pastor Loh Seng Piow on Apr 27, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    Such a thorough research on Dorje Shugden in the Sakya lineage. Previously we have heard about Dorje Shugden being practiced in the Sakya lineage here and there, and this article gathered all information and proved beyond doubt that Dorje Shugde has been a very core Dharma protector practice in the Sakya lineage for a very long time. Therefore, to deny and put down this practice, is to break all refuge in the Sakya lineage, simply because so many forefathers of the Sakya Trizin practice Dorje Shugden. The key to gaining attainments in Dharma practice, is to rely on a proper lineage, and it is not being politically correct. So never trade Dharma attainments with being politically correct even at the cost of one’s life.

  28. Beatrix Ooi on Apr 27, 2016 at 11:31 am

    This article has definitely cleared up a lot of questions about Dorje Shugden especially in the Sakya lineage. Dorje Shugden was first enthroned in the Sakyas before he became a ‘Gelug’ protector. In fact, Dorje Shugden protects just any sincere dharma practitioner from any sect, he is not sectarian at all as many who oppose the practice claimed.

    It’s fuuny how the Sakya Trizin tries to cut all connection with Dorje Shugden when it was one of his forefathers who enthroned Dorje Shugden as the protector of the Sakyas. In the Sakya thangkas, Dorje Shugden is depicted as riding a horse. With the current Sakya Trizin saying that Dorje Shugden is bad, it’s like calling those forefathers who practised Dorje Shugden bad. If Dorje Shugden is a gyalpo which he’s not, that would mean that the forefathers have broken their refuge vows. Therefore (with all the respect and I do not mean any disrespect), whatever the Sakya Trizin teaches now would have loosen the attainments, so why is he still teaching?

    There are a lot of conflicts and contradictions just on this matter alone, may the ban be lifted very swiftly and may all the doubts, bad names, untruthful information about Lord Dorje Shugden be cleared very swiftly.

  29. Pastor Elena Khong Jean Ai on Apr 27, 2016 at 9:02 am

    Thank you Rinpoche for this powerful blog post on the Sakyas’ relationship with Dorje Shugden. In the face of overwhelming evidence related to the Sakya reliance on Dorje Shugden, how can anyone deny that Dorje Shugden was a practice of the Sakyas? It is even painted on the walls of their monastery and you don’t paint deities you don’t like INSIDE your monastery, do you?

    Aside from the 149-page Shugden kangsol that was written by the 31st Sakya throneholder, the part of this post that made the greatest impression on me is the sheer number of Sakya lineageholders who relied on Dorje Shugden.

    There have been 41 Sakya Trizins to date, seven of whom relied on Dorje Shugden, viewed him as an enlightened being and/or were emanations of Dorje Shugden themselves. This number goes up to 8 if you consider the fact the current Sakya Trizin himself used to participate in Dorje Shugden pujas when he was living in Buxa refugee camp.

    That means 20% of Sakya throneholders has had some kind of relationship with Dorje Shugden, which is a significant number!

    So how can anyone say that the Sakyas NEVER relied on Dorje Shugden?

    How can anyone claim that Dorje Shugden is sectarian when, for hundreds of years, he was propitiated by the Sakyas for blessings and protection too? Would he have remained a Sakya practice for so long, if he hadn’t been effective in granting them what they were praying for? No, they wouldn’t have waited for hundreds of years before realising he’s no good and kicked him out.

    If he was actually a spirit or a demon as some people claim, then are those people saying that the Sakya tradition did not have a single master with clairvoyance who could suss out Dorje Shugden’s true nature?

    This is a post we should bookmark and promote, to let everyone know that Dorje Shugden protects all equally if the practitioner is sincere and if the propitiation benefits one’s spiritual practice, regardless of whatever lineage that practice is rooted in.

  30. Joy on Apr 27, 2016 at 8:42 am

    This is such a powerful blog post and so much evidence that the Sakyas not only perpetuated to Dorje Shugden, but DS was an integral part of their practice. If DS was a demonic spirit and if DS was bad, would the Sakya master write praises, prayers and liturgies to Dorje Shugden? Surely not. To sudden say that Dorje Shugden is wrong is to like saying that all these great Sakya masters are wrong too. So if they are wrong then why continue to pay respect to their lineage masters who probably gave them tainted wrong teachings? It would be invalid therefore whatever practice you do will have no blessings and no effect.

    The picture of the 39th Sakya throneholder Sakya Trizin Dragshul Trinley Rinchen is truely regal. His Eminence really looked like a very highly attained Lama and he also practised Dorje Shugden and even wrote praised to Dorje Shugden as an emanation of Avalokiteshvara. So is He wrong as well?

    So this is now clear evidence of how close the Sakyas were with Dorje Shugden and before the ban, everyone was really friendly, harmonious and there were no issues. So it just goes to show that the ban and discrimination on Dorje Shugden is wrong and it is being used by the Tibetan administration to cover their own failings such as promising its people that Tibet will be independent from China.

    Also if DS was a “minor” practice then why on earth did the Sakyas make Dorje Shugden and the other protectors of Sakya’s to be ‘the Sakya Gyalpo Sum trio of protectors’ which includes… Setrap, Dorje Shugden and Tsiu Marpo (a.k.a. Kache Marpo). These three protectors are being practiced within the Gelugpa lineage now.

    These are great to learn up so that when the next time someone spews saying Sakya do not practice, we can surely point them to this blog that has been well researched, with so much details. Thank you all those who worked so hard for many days to accomplish this master piece of an article.

  31. kb thapa on Apr 27, 2016 at 6:23 am

    This is very interesting article and well researched. Good to know Dorje Shugden was practiced by the Sakyas as well and Dorje Shugden has been accepted by the Sakyas, Nyingmas and the Gelugpa wow..We can see that Dorje Shugden was not only practiced by high lamas in monasteries but the wide community and the different schools of Tibetan Buddhism. Now suddenly there is ban on Dorje Shugden how come suddenly protector become evil does’t make scene to me, hundreds of years practice is wrong . If its true all the high lamas and including Dalai lama who recognized him as protector, Why their reincarnation keep coming back according CTA tradition they supposed to go hell because they practice DORJE SHUGDEN..

  32. Pastor Niral Patel on Apr 26, 2016 at 5:18 pm

    This post really does clear up some questions that I have had in regards to the Sakya Lineage, after reading the Sakya Lineage and Dorje Shugden post (http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/the-sakya-lineage-dorje-shugden.html). Thank you for sharing the rich and wonderful history of Dorje Shugden’s practice within the Sakya Lineage.

    Despite being practiced so prominently within the Sakya lineage, this history has been sidelined due to the political climate within the Tibetan government. This is sad and sorry state of affairs. Politics should never be involved with religious practices.

    The fact that Dorje Shugden, Setrap and Tsui Marpo/Kache Marpo were practiced within the Sakya tradition before coming to be practiced within the Gelug tradition goes to show just how beneficial their practices actually are. They have such a close relationship between themselves, and it just goes to show the close relationship that the Sakya and Gelug lineages had with each other too!

  33. Valentina Suhendra on Apr 26, 2016 at 11:39 am

    Dear Rinpoche

    Thank you for this strong post on Dorje Shugden practice in Sakya tradition. I agree with what was said in the article that Dorje Shugden practice was very prominent within Sakya tradition, considering the fact that the 31st Sakya Trizin himself composed the 149 page kangsol to Dorje Shugden.

    Before the ban, everyone lives peacefully and Dorje Shugden practice was not an issue. Nobody say that this practice is sectarian or exclusive to Gelugpa. I would like to point out specifically that the reason that Dalai Lama camp said to ISC as to why DS practice is bad is because the practice is sectarian:

    “One of the principal reasons why His Holiness advises against this practice is because of the well-documented sectarianism associated with it.”

    http://www.dalailama.com/messages/dolgyal-shugden/clarification-12-07-2015

    Now that the practice is proven to be not sectarian or an exclusive Gelug practice, this allegation that “support” the existence of the ban has been negated. It does not make sense why the ban should still be in existence.

    Valentina

  34. Chris Chong on Apr 26, 2016 at 8:44 am

    Dear Rinpoche,

    Thank you for sharing this information on the relationship of Sakya lineage with Dorje Shugden. Dorje Shugden was propitiated together with Dorje Setrap and Tsiu Marpo as the Gyalpo Sum. This shows that Dorje Shugden is being placed onto the same level as enlightened Dharma protectors, Setrap and Kache Marpo. Hence, Dorje Shugden have to be an enlightened being himself.

    I also learnt that there are solid evidence of a few previous Sakya Trizin to rely on Dorje Shugden. Sakya Trizin is the throne holder in the Sakya tradition which is on the same level as Gaden Tripa in Gelug and Karmapa in Kagyu. Lamas of this calibre are Highly Attained and not possible for them to be fooled by a spirit.

    When I came to the question section, there is one question that questioned the validity of Setrap being an enlightened being. I find it absurd because why are we doubting the Buddhas one by one. Are we better than the Buddhas now? If we keep questioning the Buddhas, it will never end we will never had any progress in our spiritual path. We should have faith in our Gurus whom we had examined before we form the relationship. When the Guru give us any practice, we should have 100% faith in it and let no one influence you away from it.

    Humbly,
    Chris

    • Martin on Apr 26, 2016 at 4:27 pm

      Dear Dr. Chris,

      You made a very astute observation, that these days it seems to be ok to question the divinity of enlightened beings that have been revered by highly attained masters for centuries. On the face of it , this is a combination of ignorance and sheer arrogance. The more cynical amongst us might even suggest that seeing that it is politically correct these days to oppose Dorje Shugden, everything associated with the Protector is correspondingly bad.

      For me, it is the sign of the degeneration of our time – that what is good is seen as bad and conversely what is bad is hailed as good. Therefore the world does not look at samsaric activities and go on the forum to discuss their demerits , instead they talk a Buddha down. Not that an enlightened being can be diminished by anything human beings do against them. At the end of the day the negative force accrue to those who engage in these wrong views and bad speech.

      This and many articles on this blog provide very definitive evidence and information about Dorje Shugden and thank goodness for that. Imagine if we never knew or had the wrong view of the very Dharma Protector that we badly need now.

  35. sweekeong on Apr 26, 2016 at 4:31 am

    I have heard about the Sakya lineage practicing Dorje Shugden but the information presented here is so detail and well researched. It is even amazing that 7 generation of Sakya throneholder had practiced Dorje Shugden. It would not be a minor practice as so many naysayers have claimed. How is it possible Dorje Shugden is a spirit? Unless… the Sakya throneholders can made mistake themselves? I wouldn’t think so because practitioners from Sakya also achieve results from their practices. Therefore the teachings and practices transmitted from Sakya throneholder is valid.

    • Tsem Rinpoche on Apr 26, 2016 at 6:33 am

      Dear Swee Keong,

      Our team and I worked very hard on this blog post with research late into the night and into the next morning. The information we are sharing is very clear and concise and detailed because we wanted to give more information to everyone. Understanding clears ignorance. True that 7 generations of Sakya throneholders practiced Dorje Shugden. Many do not know this. But here it is.

      I am glad you enjoyed and learned from the post. I must thank the hardworking team that assisted in every aspect of this informative blog post. Tsem Rinpoche

      • Harold Musetescu on Jun 10, 2016 at 5:08 am

        Hello Rinpoche

        A further piece of information on your blog about the Sakya Sect and it is about “Dayisun Tngri.” Who is Dayisun Tngri, he is a Mongolian WAR GOD that was used by the 5th Dalai Lama to fight the Sakya Sect. Please google his name and you will find a wikipeda entry on him. Dayisun Tngri is described as a “Mongolian War God, of a protective function to whom captured enemies were sometimes sacrificed…..the fifth Dalam Lama composed invocations to this deity.” Why would “the 5th Dalai Lama compose invocations to this deity”? Who would he invoke Dayisun Tngri against since there were no external enemies to Tibet. Could it have been against the Sakya,Jonangpa,Dri Kung and Karma Kaygu who he fought against in his battles to totally control Tibet. Did the 5th Dalai Lama on see internal enemies that Dayisun Tngri would be invoked to destroy.
        Did captured Sakya soldier monks fear that they would be sacrificed to Dayisun Tngri??
        This Dalai Lama who is the emanation of the Buddha of Compassion invokes a murderous Mongolian War God to sacrifice captured enemies(Sakya,Jonangpa,DriKung and Kaygy monks)to. What a murderous Dalai Lama and a murderous linage he has.
        One other piece of information for you. Were the Jonangpa destroyed by the 5th Dalai Lama over their corrupt teachings of over a REJECTED CONSORT. Before the 5th Dalai Lama was married to his father her family gave her over to Taranatha the head of the Jonangpa to be his CONSORT. After roughly 6 months she was returned to her family by Taranatha as an unsuitable CONSORT. Could the 5th Dalai Lama have destroyed the Jonangpa out of revenge for this preserved reject of his mother by the Jonangpa leader?

        Harold

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  • Alice Tay
    Thursday, Mar 30. 2017 10:01 PM
    This is really great news for having SFS campaign to help the stray dogs. Other than to urge and educate the public to treat the stray dogs with compassionately, SFS campaign encourages for all quarters to work together to spay or neuter stray animals which is an effective method to control the amount of stray dogs. Indirectly, this may reduce the suffering of stray dogs from being abused or die because of starvation.

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/current-affairs/stray-free-selangor.html
  • Samfoonheei
    Thursday, Mar 30. 2017 10:00 PM
    Good news finally Selangor becaome the first state free from stray dogs. With the support of the royalties and the Selangor Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (SPCA) organised the campaign to make
    the state free of stray dogs and create the awareness of compassionate love towards stray animals.They are working work towards a radical change,thats a worderful news.
    Well ,do hope more states will follow Selangor to replace the inhumane way of dealing with stray animals too.
    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this wonderful news.

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/current-affairs/stray-free-selangor.html
  • Stella Cheang
    Thursday, Mar 30. 2017 05:29 PM
    These iconographically correct Buddha images set in precious gemstones are one of its kind and unique in every sense of the word. And the designs are versatile to suit any apparels and occasions, redefining the Buddhist sense of fashion in a big way. Thank you, Rinpoche and Louise for this sharing. I hope the pendants will bring protections to the wearer and connections to the Buddha to those who admire it by sight.

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/kechara-13-depts/timeless-and-sacred.html
  • Samfoonheei
    Thursday, Mar 30. 2017 03:29 PM
    Very inspiring true story of a monk…Master Xuyun after going through many hardships and illness to pursue what he wanted to be. What he did was amazing travelling in harsh conditions to so many places just to preach chinese buddhism from one country to another. Master Xuyun has spent his entired life devoted to the Dharma,During the war many monasteries and holy sites was destroyed but somehow Master Xuyun managed to restore once again.Because of him ,those monasteries and holy sites were till today. He was a household name at that time and have inspired many modern spiritual seeker to strive along the path towards enlightenment.
    Thank you Pastor Adeline Woon for such an interesting and inspiring article.
    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/great-lamas-masters/empty-cloud.html#tabs-7
  • Lin Mun
    Thursday, Mar 30. 2017 11:47 AM
    It is ironic that Dalai Lama would have given a remarks to discourage country such as Germany to accept refugees and that refugees should return to homeland and to build the country. I think this is really a callous statement to be mentioned. Dalai Lama being the Tibetan Buddhist leader should portray compassion and extending help to those in need. All these refugees are running away for their life because their own country is not safe to stay anymore. Just like what Tibetan has encountered in the late 1950s.

    This kind of contrary statement is also very obvious in the Dorje Shugden ban. Dorje Shugden have been practised by many high lamas since 400 years ago and also by Dalai Lama’s Guru but it is ban by Tibetan leadership.

    Dalai Lama is a high lama and is believed to be the emanation of Chenrezig. Although his statements were contrary sometimes but I believe he would have the reason that we may not understand yet. Hopefully all the issues would be resolve in peace.

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/current-affairs/dalai-lama-says-too-many-refugees-in-europe.html
  • Stella Cheang
    Thursday, Mar 30. 2017 12:34 AM
    Wonderful good news to learn about this first of its kind progressive campaign to help the stray animals in Malaysia by the Sultan and Permaisuri of Selangor. While stray animals can be a nuisance to the public at large but bear in mind, the strays do not have a choice, and we have a role to play. Neutering strays is a humane and compassionate ways of resolving the program of stray animals in the long run because it largely reduces the numbers of strays on the streets. Neutering and proving proper shelters to strays can prevent thousands of animals from being born, only to suffer and struggle to survive on the streets, be abused by cruel or neglectful people, or be euthanized inhumanely. I have read somewhere that says spaying and neutering makes a big difference: Just one unaltered female dog and her offspring can produce 67,000 puppies in only six years. In seven years, one female cat and her offspring can produce an incredible 370,000 kittens!

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/current-affairs/stray-free-selangor.html
  • Stella Cheang
    Thursday, Mar 30. 2017 12:15 AM
    Humans and animals, as well as other sentient beings within the six realms of samsara, are subjected to the law of cyclic of existence. Karma or generally known as the law of cause and effect will determine where we take our next rebirth. It is extremely rare for sentient beings to take the form of a human body and in perfect condition. Hence we must not let this precious lifetime go to waste by indulging in silly actions and harmful ways. If we are born in the animals realms or lower, there is close to zero way for us to collect merits and get out of that realm.

    From the stories above, I find the story about Dalawong most unusual because he seemed to be able to determine the destination of his next rebirth after he was being killed as a snake. After he had taken rebirth in human form, he continued to remember the incident in his past life. Amazing!

    Thank you, Rinpoche, for sharing these researches with us.

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/science-mysteries/do-animals-reincarnate-back-as-humans.html
  • Tsem Rinpoche
    Wednesday, Mar 29. 2017 09:42 PM
    If we are kind, we lose less of ourselves-Tsem Rinpoche
  • Lin Mun
    Wednesday, Mar 29. 2017 03:50 PM
    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this article about tsa tsa. Didn’t know there are many steps and holy materials used in making a tsa tsa. In addition, the maker of tsa tsa would need to do prayer in the morning depending of what tsa tsa they are making on the day, for example, the maker will do Dorje Shugden practise before making Dorje Shugden tsa tsa.

    Only by knowing the process, we will appreciate the items more. Tsa tsa is a precious item.

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/kechara-13-depts/tsa-tsas-are-nice.html
  • Pastor Shin Tan
    Wednesday, Mar 29. 2017 09:28 AM
    Dalawong: A Child Recalls a Past Life as a Cobra in Thailand

    This case was actually researched by the late Francis Story, a British citizen who was fascinated with Buddhism and spent many years in Asia. He was also very interested in the topic of reincarnation and assisted Dr. Stevenson in investigating a number of very important reincarnation cases in Burma and Sri Lanka. Francis interviewed the subject of this case, a Thai boy named Dalowong, along with his father, mother and sister. He also had access to a pamphlet that was previously published regarding the case, which was also summarized in an article in the Bangkok Times.

    Dalawong actually claimed two past animal incarnations. He recalled a past lifetime as a deer, which he said was killed by a hunter. Subsequently, he stated he was reincarnated as a snake, more specifically, as a cobra.

    As the snake, Dalawong remembered that he was in a cave when two dogs entered and attacked him. A ferocious struggle ensued between the cobra and the dogs. The owner of the dogs then entered the cave and killed the snake. Apparently, the snake was able to bite the human invader on the shoulder, prior to succumbing to death.

    The human took the cobra’s body back home, where the snake was cooked for a meal. This man shared the snake meat with an acquaintance, who would become Dalawong’s father in the near future. The man who killed the cobra had the name Mr. Hiew.

    Read more here: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/science-mysteries/do-animals-reincarnate-back-as-humans.html
  • Alice Tay
    Tuesday, Mar 28. 2017 08:40 PM
    谢谢Paul Yap 为我们介绍马来西亚彭亨州文东必定参观的地方之一~克切拉禅修林。就如照片显示,克切拉禅修林的确是一个环境清幽、山明水秀以及令人有宁静舒适的感觉。

    如果有机会到马来西亚游玩,千万不要错过由Paul Yap介绍克切拉禅修林里的几个优美与神圣的地方,包括:
    1. 金泽”财王”
    2. 金刚瑜伽母佛塔
    3. 绿度母石雕像
    4. 药师佛山
    5. 梦幻文殊菩萨
    6. 詹仁波切的货柜屋
    7. 文殊山
    8. 智慧堂(释迦摩尼佛像和多杰雄登像)

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/kechara-13-depts/go-bentong.html
  • Alice Tay
    Tuesday, Mar 28. 2017 08:09 PM
    The sculpture of Kuan Yin in Macau is simple but elegant. Most importantly, this big Kuan Yin in Macau is built to bring peace, harmony and prosperity to the people.

    I remember Rinpoche mentioned before a big Buddha statue will have positive impact on the environment and plant the Buddha’s seeds in all sentient beings that not only humans but also including animals and many others. Therefore, the bigger Buddha statue the more beneficial to all sentient beings where they can see and be blessed by this big Buddha statue from far.

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/art-architecture/kuan-yin-of-macau-city.html
  • Lin Mun
    Tuesday, Mar 28. 2017 03:29 PM
    Krishnan’s effort and hard work in contributing to the society is very inspiring. He is willing to let go of his high paying job to Switzerland and staying back in India to operate a soup kitchen for homeless. On top of that he is willing to accept the hardship of financial restraint every month in maintaining his service for the people living in the street. I hope his good work will bring more awareness and sponsors for him especially when CNN showed the video of his work and awarded him with top 10 CNN heroes.

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/inspiration-worthy-words/chef-turned-hero.html
  • Pastor Shin Tan
    Monday, Mar 27. 2017 06:42 PM
    According to the Buddhist teachings, we all have a unique blend of karma that determines where we are born, the circumstances of our birth and the quality of our life. Naturally, this is due to the actions that we performed in previous lives. Karma also dictates our characteristics and traits that determine how we act throughout our lives, which in turn leads to certain outcomes in this life and a determination of where we will take rebirth in the future.

    Karma, however, is not set in stone. We can change our circumstances through our own efforts – purification of karma and accumulation of merit. Tibetan astrology, based on these Buddhist principles, provides us the methods to ensure success in this life and a good rebirth in the future. Tibetan astrology can also predict what will happen to us in this life and our next rebirth based on the time of our birth.

    Discover your traits according to the Mewa, or Magical Square system of Tibetan astrology below, and find out how to purify your negative karma to improve your life!

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/tibetan-astrology/tibetan-astrology.html
  • Tsem Rinpoche
    Monday, Mar 27. 2017 05:24 PM
    Very interesting:


    Radin explained in his book: “For a Western-trained academic, the mere existence of, say, telepathy would be considered supernormal and thus wildly extraordinary. But for an experienced yogi, it’s just a boringly normal minor siddhi [a Sanskrit term for a meditation attainment, or power]. A skeptical scientist, not having the benefit of thousands of hours of practice in yoga and meditation, would require repeatable, rigorously obtained experimental data showing odds against chance of a gazillion to one. The yogi merely requires his own experience.”


    Very interesting read: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2157904-supernormal-abilities-developed-through-meditation-dr-dean-radin-discusses/?sidebar=morein

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Recite this before any meal or drinks for blessings of abundance. Tsem Rinpoche
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Recite this before any meal or drinks for blessings of abundance. Tsem Rinpoche
This sacred statue of Buddha is in Nepal brought originally from Tibet and has spoken on many occasions. Very blessed to see this holy image and keep a picture...bless you always. Tsem Rinpoche
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This sacred statue of Buddha is in Nepal brought originally from Tibet and has spoken on many occasions. Very blessed to see this holy image and keep a picture...bless you always. Tsem Rinpoche
I love Mumu boy tremendously. We went through so much together for so many years. You are a great being to be with. Tsem Rinpoche
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I love Mumu boy tremendously. We went through so much together for so many years. You are a great being to be with. Tsem Rinpoche
Dear everyone, I am sharing this beautiful and modern altar to Dorje Shugden in Malaysia. I am glad to see more and more people creating sacred spaces. Tsem Rinpoche
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Dear everyone, I am sharing this beautiful and modern altar to Dorje Shugden in Malaysia. I am glad to see more and more people creating sacred spaces. Tsem Rinpoche
Lhamo Karmo, a female buddha form visualized above the crown of one\'s head at the time of death, to encourage consciousness to leave the body via the crown aperture. From my book \"The Female Buddhas.\"- Glenn Mullin
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Lhamo Karmo, a female buddha form visualized above the crown of one's head at the time of death, to encourage consciousness to leave the body via the crown aperture. From my book "The Female Buddhas."- Glenn Mullin
The Tibetan female tulku Dorje Pakmo, from a fresco on the wall of the Dorje Pakmo monastery (Samding) in Tibet, near the Turquoise Lake. In Tibet the Dorje Pakmo was ranked with the Dalai Lama, Panchen Lama and Sakya Trizin as the four highest lamas in the country.-from Glenn Mullin
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The Tibetan female tulku Dorje Pakmo, from a fresco on the wall of the Dorje Pakmo monastery (Samding) in Tibet, near the Turquoise Lake. In Tibet the Dorje Pakmo was ranked with the Dalai Lama, Panchen Lama and Sakya Trizin as the four highest lamas in the country.-from Glenn Mullin
Dharma boy, Mumu boy and Oser girl checking out the scene..cute
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Dharma boy, Mumu boy and Oser girl checking out the scene..cute
My Dharma boy has such a cute expression here. He is a good boy!
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My Dharma boy has such a cute expression here. He is a good boy!
February 9,2017-My Mumu boy and Oser girl are just relaxing together..super cute
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February 9,2017-My Mumu boy and Oser girl are just relaxing together..super cute
Click on the picture to enlarge and see what Suzy from Hawaii commented on the Dorje Shugden issue after much research. She is very candid and honest. Refreshing. Original is posted here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl-4lIwxph4
2 months ago
Click on the picture to enlarge and see what Suzy from Hawaii commented on the Dorje Shugden issue after much research. She is very candid and honest. Refreshing. Original is posted here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl-4lIwxph4
This is a good one to read
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This is a good one to read
Mumu is silly and cute and funny
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Mumu is silly and cute and funny
Mumu\'s hair is messy and he looks funny
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Mumu's hair is messy and he looks funny
I am in the process of creating beautiful Dorje Shugden and Kechara Forest Retreat watches at this time. So we can take precious protector and Kechara Forest Retreat wherever we go and be blessed everytime we see what time it is. 
I am perfecting the designs with a great team and will update when done but these are just some samples that arrived. 
Feast your eyes! 

Tsem Rinpoche
3 months ago
I am in the process of creating beautiful Dorje Shugden and Kechara Forest Retreat watches at this time. So we can take precious protector and Kechara Forest Retreat wherever we go and be blessed everytime we see what time it is. I am perfecting the designs with a great team and will update when done but these are just some samples that arrived. Feast your eyes! Tsem Rinpoche
                        Pick the practice, devotion and precepts of Vajra Yogini\'s path over everything and anything in samsara. Samsara has nothing of value and nothing lasting to offer. You are born in suffering, live in suffering, die in suffering and enter bardo and future lives expecting more sufferings. This is not a negative way of looking at things but the truth. If the truth is negative, so it is the truth. Devote oneself to the guru, dharma work, dharma practice and bringing dharma to others compassionately. Choose to practice Vajra Yogini now with the preliminaries. You can start right now: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/inspiration-worthy-words/starting-on-vajra-yogini-now.html  Much care, Tsem Rinpoche
3 months ago
Pick the practice, devotion and precepts of Vajra Yogini's path over everything and anything in samsara. Samsara has nothing of value and nothing lasting to offer. You are born in suffering, live in suffering, die in suffering and enter bardo and future lives expecting more sufferings. This is not a negative way of looking at things but the truth. If the truth is negative, so it is the truth. Devote oneself to the guru, dharma work, dharma practice and bringing dharma to others compassionately. Choose to practice Vajra Yogini now with the preliminaries. You can start right now: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/inspiration-worthy-words/starting-on-vajra-yogini-now.html Much care, Tsem Rinpoche
Message to Tibetans in English
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Message to Tibetans in English
Message to the Tibetans
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Message to the Tibetans
Left to right: Kensur Jampa Yeshe Rinpoche, Sharpa Choeje Jetsun Lobsang Nyima, Kyabje Zemey Rinpoche, Kyabje Lati Rinpoche, 101st Gaden Tripa Jetsun Lungrik Namgyal. Great lamas of Gaden Shartse Monastery
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Left to right: Kensur Jampa Yeshe Rinpoche, Sharpa Choeje Jetsun Lobsang Nyima, Kyabje Zemey Rinpoche, Kyabje Lati Rinpoche, 101st Gaden Tripa Jetsun Lungrik Namgyal. Great lamas of Gaden Shartse Monastery
A beautiful Indian rendition of Gyenze Dorje Shugden manifesting in wealth form
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A beautiful Indian rendition of Gyenze Dorje Shugden manifesting in wealth form
This is my thoughts and determination to share with you. Please open and read. Thank you for your time. Tsem Rinpoche
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This is my thoughts and determination to share with you. Please open and read. Thank you for your time. Tsem Rinpoche
Nepalese King Birendra receives His Holiness Panchen Rinpoche in Nepal
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Nepalese King Birendra receives His Holiness Panchen Rinpoche in Nepal
Guess what Zava Damdin Rinpoche did in Mongolia recently with 7,800 people??? Very interesting and it is a must read:  http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=116206
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Guess what Zava Damdin Rinpoche did in Mongolia recently with 7,800 people??? Very interesting and it is a must read:  http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=116206
This huge Buddha in Korea is magnificent
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This huge Buddha in Korea is magnificent
The very first oracle of Dorje Shugden in trance statue. I have commissioned this.
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The very first oracle of Dorje Shugden in trance statue. I have commissioned this.
Such a old and ancient thangka painting of Dorje Shugden. He has been around in Tibet practiced for hundreds of years.
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Such a old and ancient thangka painting of Dorje Shugden. He has been around in Tibet practiced for hundreds of years.
One of the "Four Exalted Brothers" Avalokiteshvara statues, Phagpa Wati of Kyirong, which is now with H.H. the Dalai Lama in Dharamsala.
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One of the "Four Exalted Brothers" Avalokiteshvara statues, Phagpa Wati of Kyirong, which is now with H.H. the Dalai Lama in Dharamsala.
Kyabje Zemey, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Kyabje Pabongka Choktrul Rinpoche
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Kyabje Zemey, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche and Kyabje Pabongka Choktrul Rinpoche
My Oser girl and Mumu boy are so adorable
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My Oser girl and Mumu boy are so adorable
Wow this meditator in his cave in front of a painting of Yamantaka draped with a white khata of respect. He sits among bones to remind him of impermanence and our future. The bones inspire him strongly to let go of all attachments in this life and focus on dharma, meditation and liberation and he is doing so. Very beautiful and inspirational. Tsem Rinpoche
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Wow this meditator in his cave in front of a painting of Yamantaka draped with a white khata of respect. He sits among bones to remind him of impermanence and our future. The bones inspire him strongly to let go of all attachments in this life and focus on dharma, meditation and liberation and he is doing so. Very beautiful and inspirational. Tsem Rinpoche
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  • March 28, 2017 09:11
    Lia asked: If the ushnisha is actually supposed to be a bump, then do we change the visualization of the top knot and replace it with a bump covered in hair or do we keep the ushnisha as the thangkas show?
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  • March 27, 2017 04:19
    Dongho asked: I have been reading on the tunes of certain sects and would like to ask on this. From what I've read, there are certain tunes to each sect and school of certain chants. Exactly where can I find the sheet music for these percussion and horns with the chants, such as to the one for invoking Kache Marpo or Dorje Shugden? Would it be possible to use school instruments for this?
    pastor answered: Dear Dongho, Thank you for your question, it is good to see you back and asking more questions. Yes you are right, there are differences in the tunes and chants between the lineages. The differences can vary significantly between the traditions, for example the Gelugpa tradition of Tibetan Buddhism is known for its extremely deep throat singing which is very powerful and is characterised by a low, booming voice, in contrast to the other traditions. Even within a particular tradition, there can be slight variations as to the manner in which the chants and tunes are performed. For example those monasteries are which are affiliated with Gyume will have one way of throat singing, where those affiliated with Gyuto will have another. As far as I am aware there is no professional sheet music for the rituals, most probably because the music is actually an integral part of the ritual itself. Therefore the music, tunes, and chants are all taught at the same time the ritual and prayers are. The tunes, and use of the instruments all have specific meanings, because they are considered to be offerings to the deities in the form of sound. The monasteries would not have copies of sheet music either, because sheet music is western practice. The use of ritual music within Tibetan Buddhism is more of one based on memory. In the Kechara organisation, the puja team was trained in such ritual instruments at the same time they learnt the particular ritual from monks from the monastery, such as the puja of Dorje Shugden. From what I saw of the training, the musical tunes, and use of instruments was not written down but taught experientially at the same time as the chanting. I have not come across any other instruments being used in pujas apart from the traditional ritual instruments, because even the instruments themselves have a specific meaning. That is not say that school instruments cannot be used. This is because, as long as the offering is sincere, the Buddhas and enlightened deities will accept it, and in turn you will generate great amounts of merit. Offerings should be made to the best of our ability, therefore if you do not have access to the ritual instruments, or do not know how to play them, but you know how to play other instruments, and use these instruments as offerings to the Buddhas during pujas, the amount of merit you generate will be the same. This is because you are sincere with your offering. I hope this helps. Thank you.
  • March 26, 2017 02:14
    Kunga asked: Does the Gelug have Begtse a protector? If so, could you please provide a sadhana for him here?
    pastor answered: Dear Kunga, Yes the Dharma protector Begtse exists within the Gelug tradition. He is also known as Chamsing. Begtse’s practice stems from India and was introduced to Tibet and therefore Tibetan Buddhism by the translator Nyen Lotsawa. Marpa Lotsawa also practiced Begtse, and so the practice exists in the Kagyu traditions. This practice was eventually transmitted to Sachen Kunga Nyingpo, the first of the five patriarchs of the Sakya tradition, who were the founding fathers of that tradition. Over time the practice of Begtse was incorporated into the Gelug tradition, founded by Lama Tsongkhapa, and was notably practiced by the 1st and 2nd Dalai Lamas. Over time the practice gained popularity within the lineage, especially when it spread to Mongolia. There the practice became an important one within the lineage as upheld there. Begtse is also affectionately known as the Dharma protector of Mongolia, because his practice is so popular there. If I am not mistaken, there is an oracle of Begtse in Mongolia as well. There is a mistaken account that the practice originated around the time of the 3rd Dalai Lama, with the subjugation of a Mongolian war god, but Begtse was definitely practiced before that time in the Gelug, Kagyu and Sakya traditions. While the practice of Begtse is very effective, I have not come across the practice of Begtse in my personal practice, therefore I do not have access to the Begtse sadhana to provide to you. Instead Begtse is propitiated in prayers that incorporate many other Dharma protectors, and Begtse is also considered one of the nine protectors of the Hayagriva (Tamdrin) cycle of tantric teachings. Therefore Begtse is included in the Dharma protector sections of the Hayagriva tantras. Surrounding Begtse are his sister, Sing Ma, and his main minister, Le Khan Mar Po. His inner retinue comprises of eight butchers who wield copper swords in their right hands and skull-cups full of blood in their left hands. They are portrayed as naked and are very ugly. His outer retinue comprises a further twenty-one butchers, who hold copper swords in their right hands, and this time, the entrails of butchered enemies. They wear the skins humans and oxen as clothes, with ornaments made from human bone. While this may seem violent, Begtse is actually a very powerful and beneficial protector, who helps practitioners clear their obstacles and create conducive conditions for their spiritual evolution. I hope this helps. Thank you.
  • March 24, 2017 20:12
    Azair asked: Venerable Rinpoche, I am doing a study in Kalachakra Tantra and I've heard from most of the lama's too that if you practice the Kalachakra Tantra, you'll be able to take control of your next rebirth. Ofcourse, it has been said that we will get our rebirth according to our Karma and desires but whether those dreams will get fulfilled will depend upon the actions that we take in this life. Thus, practicing the Kalachakra(till the end) after initiation will give you the opportunity to take rebirth anywhere you desire regardless of your Karma. My question is that, is there some truth in this statement.? Does this statement hold true for other tantra practices, such as Vajrayogini Tantra, Ghuyasamaja Tantra, Heruka Tantra, etc. I would really really like to know. Thankyou in anticipation, regards, Azair
    pastor answered: Dear Azair, Thank you for your question. Yes there is truth to this statement, both from a scriptural perspective and also by example, as the great masters have shown us. This is a unique feature of all Anuttarayoga Tantras or Highest Yoga Tantras, which Kalachakra, Vajrayogini, Guhyasama and Heruka are all examples of. This category of tantric practice can actually lead a practitioner to full enlightenment in this very lifetime. Even if enlightenment is not reached, very high levels of attainment can be reached nonetheless. This includes the ability to take control over your next rebirth. This is primarily engaged in so that the practitioner is born in an environment where they can eventually pick up their practice and further their spiritual path to enlightenment, or in order to be born in a place where they can benefit sentient beings the most, as part of the spiritual journey over many lifetimes. One of the reasons such an ability is very necessary on the spiritual path, is that usual death and rebirth occurs at the mercy of ones karma, specifically what is known as the ‘throwing karma’ or the karma that dictates what sort of rebirth a person is going to take. This opens up at the time of ordinary death, which most people have no control over. During the death process, many of our disturbing emotions will arise. Whichever of these is the strongest at the point of death triggers open a latent karmic potential, which becomes the ‘throwing karma’ and dictates where we are going to take rebirth and if that life will generally be full of suffering or not. Within Anuttarayoga Tantra, one of the key points of practice is to prepare for one’s death. This is done by simulating the dying process during one’s meditations, so that one becomes familiar with it. At the most pivotal part of this process, one practices achieving either the rainbow body or great bliss (in the case of the father tantras); or clear light (in the case of mother tantras). The tantras themselves are not defined in terms of the gender of the central deity, but by the method used to gain enlightenment. This is either the rainbow body/great bliss (classified as male, therefore labelled ‘father’) or clear light (classified as female, therefore labelled ‘mother’). Non-dual tantras such as the Kalachakra tantra can employ either of the two methods, a mixture of both, or alternate methods. In the case of superior practitioners, due to the power of their practice, they can achieve either of these two methods in their current body. Since they have familiarised themselves with the dying process, and a particular method of practice, they can also achieve enlightenment during their physical death. The great Lama Tsongkhapa is said to have achieved enlightenment at the moment of physical death, using the second of these. For other practitioners, they may not be able to achieve this either in their meditations while they are alive, or during the death process. However because they have familiarised themselves with the dying process, they remain in complete concentration at the time of death, not allowing any disturbing emotions to arise. Due to this level of concentration, meditation and awareness during the dying process, they are able to control where they next take rebirth. This is evident in the tantric scriptures themselves, and the life stories of many masters, who can state exactly where, when and to whom they will take their next rebirth, as they are in full control of the dying and rebirth process. There is a type of meditation called ‘thukdam’ which has been translated into ‘death meditation’. This is a final meditation some masters choose to engage in. During this meditation, the master themselves consciously begin the physical dying process themselves, engage in the meditation of dissolving the winds into the heart centre and remain in the most pivotal part of the death process, the mind of clear light of death. During this point they engage in meditations, either the methods of the father or mother tantras as mentioned previously, and or consciously choose where they are to next take rebirth. They can remain in this death meditation for long periods of time, days at an end, in which their consciousness has not yet left their body, although for all intents and purposes they are dead according to medical science, e.g. they have no heartbeat. At the end of their meditation, a drop of blood will be emitted from their nostril, and their head will slump over a little. Masters who engage in this meditation usually sit in full meditation posture, and their body remain supple and soft even though they have passed away from a medical point of view. I hope this brief explanation helps. Thank you.
  • March 23, 2017 23:01
    Brad asked: What is the significance of offering the Seven precious emblems of royalty to the Buddhas and enlightened Dharma Protectors? What are we symbolically offering up?
    pastor answered: Dear Brad, Thank you for your question. The ‘saptaratna’ or seven precious emblems represent on the one hand the ultimate state of temporal power, and on the other hand the ultimate spiritual attainments that we can achieve. By offering these to the Buddhas, we are actually creating the causes to achieve what they represent. Therefore it is good to know the meaning of each, so we can understand what we are creating the causes for by offering them up: Please see below for an explanation of the seven royal emblems: 1. The Precious Wheel: a thousand spoked wheel, representing the universal power of the Buddhas, as well as the teachings of the thousand Buddhas of our aeon. It is represented by the Dharmachakra, symbolising the ‘turning of the wheel’ or teaching of the Noble Eightfold Path. It is a symbol of a universal emperor’s spiritual and temporal power. It is also represents one of the factors of enlightenment, which is perfect mindfulness, especially that of our own mind, thoughts, delusions and afflictions. 2. The Precious Jewel: an eight sided wish-granting gem, which fulfils all the needs of a universal emperor. This jewel has eight special qualities: it illuminates the night sky for hundreds of leagues; it is cooling when the temperature is hot and warming when the temperature is cold; it makes manifest whatever the holder wants; when thirsty it causes a fresh-water spring to appear; it has the ability to control the nagas, and other supernatural beings, as well as preventing natural disasters such as storms, floods, etc.; it gives off multi-coloured lighted which heals the various mental and emotional afflictions; it cures all illnesses; and it ensures that one dies a natural death, not an untimely one. It is a symbol of a universal emperor’s spiritual and temporal power. It is also represents one of the factors of enlightenment, which is perfect mindfulness, or perfect discrimination, so one knows what to abandon and what to keep in the mindstream during the spiritual journey to enlightenment. 3. The Precious Queen: the most beautiful and virtuous of all women. She is described as a goddess who is the epitome of someone: with devotion; without jealousy; who is the embodiment of fertility; who works for the welfare of all beings; who possess feminine wisdom; speaks the truth; not attract to sensual pleasures or material possessions; and does not have false views. She is adored by all. She also represents one of the factors of enlightenment, which is perfect effort. This is necessary to keep meditating until one gains spiritual attainments. 4. The Precious Minister: who has sharp intelligence, patience, and the ability to give wise counsel to the emperor. He is so attuned to the emperor that even before the emperor has spoken, the minister is already carrying out his command. He only wishes to support the Dharma, help sentient beings, and is an excellent strategist. He also represents one of the factors of enlightenment, which is perfect joy. This is also akin to the attainment of the first bodhisattva level, because you have come to an understanding of your own mind, which is like pouring ice-cold water into boiling water. The water stops boiling, as does the thoughts, projections, and delusions in the mind. He represents the path of the bodhisattva. 5. The Precious Elephant: who has the strength of a thousand normal elephants. He is white, with the perfect features that an elephant could have. He is majestic, graceful, and gentle, but in battle is fearsome, fearless and unyielding. He communicates with the emperor through a telepathic link. He represents one of the factors of enlightenment, which is perfect adaptability. This is important, as one needs to be able to adapt to the various mental afflictions as they arise, and suitably counter them. 6. The Precious Horse: who has all the marks of a celestial horse. Known as wind-horse, he is able to travel extremely fast, and can circumambulate the entire universe three time in just a single day. He is never fearful or startled, never makes a sound when galloping, and has extremely soft hairs on his body. He represents one of the factors of enlightenment, which is single-pointed concentration. This is important because without this form of concentration, once cannot engage in the analytical meditations that lead to an understanding of emptiness, and therefore enlightenment. 7. The Precious General: who has mastered the arts of war and always wins in battle. He wears battle armour and holds many different weapons. He tries to avoid battle, but when necessary fights, and never gives up until he has won. He is fearless, and courageous in carrying out the emperors commands and ensures the emperors army carries out their duties. He represents one of the factors of enlightenment, which is perfect equanimity. This is because he overcomes all warfare, which is akin to the battle between things were are attached to and things we have an aversion for in our minds. In short, what you are offering up is the highest of all temporal treasures and abilities, as well as the entire path of the Dharma. Doing so creates the causes for you to receive all of this on your spiritual journey towards enlightenment. I hope this helps. Thank you.
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Kechara Sunday Dharma School students and parents made a day trip to Kechara forest Retreat during school holidays. What a good way to spend a weekend. Stella, KSDS
4 days ago
Kechara Sunday Dharma School students and parents made a day trip to Kechara forest Retreat during school holidays. What a good way to spend a weekend. Stella, KSDS
Kechara Sunday Dharma School students, Kayene and her brother Karlson made a day trip to visit Kechara Forest Retreat with their parents. Stella, KSDS
4 days ago
Kechara Sunday Dharma School students, Kayene and her brother Karlson made a day trip to visit Kechara Forest Retreat with their parents. Stella, KSDS
Lovely visitors in Kechara Forest Retreat, Wisdom Hall
5 days ago
Lovely visitors in Kechara Forest Retreat, Wisdom Hall
Prostration is a practice to show reverence to the Three Jewels. Let the children have this practice at their young age, Alice Tay, KSDS
5 days ago
Prostration is a practice to show reverence to the Three Jewels. Let the children have this practice at their young age, Alice Tay, KSDS
Teacher Stella together with WOAH Camp young participants to check the broken egg. Alice Tay, KSDS
5 days ago
Teacher Stella together with WOAH Camp young participants to check the broken egg. Alice Tay, KSDS
Great to see Dian and Wen Xin tried to do breath meditation slowly. Alice Tay, KSDS
5 days ago
Great to see Dian and Wen Xin tried to do breath meditation slowly. Alice Tay, KSDS
Happy faces of Teacher Irene together with KSDS's youngest age group. Alice Tay, KSDS
5 days ago
Happy faces of Teacher Irene together with KSDS's youngest age group. Alice Tay, KSDS
Most of the KSDS students like drawing and discuss about their drawing. Alice Tay, KSDS
5 days ago
Most of the KSDS students like drawing and discuss about their drawing. Alice Tay, KSDS
The yearly gotong royong event on Malaysia Day. Great day to contribute back to the society. Lin Mun KSDS
5 days ago
The yearly gotong royong event on Malaysia Day. Great day to contribute back to the society. Lin Mun KSDS
KSDS students, parents and teachers participated in food packaging for Kechara Soup Kitchen. Lin Mun KSDS
5 days ago
KSDS students, parents and teachers participated in food packaging for Kechara Soup Kitchen. Lin Mun KSDS
The team is setting up the tent and games for the Halloween party. Lin Mun KSDS
5 days ago
The team is setting up the tent and games for the Halloween party. Lin Mun KSDS
Students of SRJK (C) enjoyed themselves so much during Halloween 2016. Lin Mun KSDS
5 days ago
Students of SRJK (C) enjoyed themselves so much during Halloween 2016. Lin Mun KSDS
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