Katinka Simonse (aka Tinkebell) – Art or Cruelty?
Katinka Simonse is a 31 year old woman from Amsterdam, The Netherlands. For the past few months, she has been in the media spotlight for reasons that most people would find disturbing.
According to the general public, she has been getting away with animal cruelty for the past few years. It is reported that she has 60 hamsters which she keeps in hamster balls, has remote controlled guinea pigs, places day old male chicks through paper shredders, writes on the snails in her garden to keep count of them… and killed her pet cat, Pinkeltje, and made it into a bag.
These are things that cause public outrage… but what are her reasons for it? She does all of the above for reasons she feels strongly about to make what she does seem OK.
She hasnt been charged by the police, but has angered people so much that she is gets 100,000+ hate emails a day!
According to her, what she does is not appalling or repulsive. She wants to highlight the hypocrisy and double-standards with what people perceive as cruelty. She questions “What is cruel?” She may have killed her sick cat and made it into a purse, but as she says, “There is not a single cow who had a good life before it became a bag.” She explains she’s doing this “to use an animal thats close to you in order to show what we do with the ones that are far from sight. I wanted people to think about that.”
To her, walking past Burger King, and seeing someone eat a hamburger makes her want to puke. She explains that its because she only sees what happens before the burger became a burger: the animal at the factory, what happened to it and how it was fattened up in a very short period of time. That to her is cruelty.
I am not supporting or condoning her. This is how she thinks, and these are her reasons. Do you agree with her words?
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I think that some people are so arrogant about themselves until by proving society of their talents and skills. They aimlessly choose those vulnerable as victims or sacrifice to their egos. All sentient beings had entitle to choose live or die. We can’t snatch away their lives like that with our own decision. They may not speak our language but we as their most trusted human should find a better solution to ease their pain not KILLING it!
I think she had an arrogance way of denying her wrong doing. Anyway, what she had done, she will get it. Karma will follows.
When I read this news, I find it to be very disturbing. Katinka’s behaviour is not acceptable at all. She has a very distorted view, she thinks she cares about the animal’s welfare so she killed her cat and made a handbag using its fur to show people how cruel it is to use animal products.
There are many ways to create awareness and promote animal rights to the public. There is no need to kill a life to make people hear us. Do we have to beat our family member to create an awareness of domestic violence?
Katinka doesn’t really care about animal welfare, she is just an attention seeker. A kind person will not have the heart to hurt another life, let alone their pets. A person like Katinka should go and seek for a treatment from the doctor, if she can do something so cruel to the animals, she can also do something similar to a human. She can be very dangerous.
It is a strange way to promote loving kindness, by using cruelty on her “pets” to raise awareness of the plight of cows and other animals who end up on dinner plate. Unfortunately, two wrongs do not make one right. In fact, it is counter productive to her “awareness objective.” By being cruel to her “pets,” she incurred suffering on animals, in another words more (instead of less) animals suffered because of her. And with her actions, she triggered many angry people who took the negative actions of sending hate-mails and spilling hate-threats.
On the other hand, the 100,000 daily emails did not convert into less demand on leathers and meats, otherwise it would have been rather significant. Moreover, it is hard to relate the elasticity of the hide and meat business to Miss Katinka Simonse’s effort. So therefore, it makes more sense to be a positive influence to others in this case. And if it is a long term strategy on her part, it would mean more “pets” will suffer in her hand.
So, is it a case of having “noble” motivation but ended up with negative result? By her own statement that condemned others as hyprocites, it sounded like she was angry and on a self rightous quest.
Its a not so good piece of art after all having your beloved cat skin . Very cruel way which i think but as for Katinka Simonse she may not think so. She seem to be very proud having a bag from her cat. Having a pet , we are responsible for her well beings ,we are to take care of them till the end whatever happens to them sick or old. feeling sad for that poor cat. Anyway it s not for me to judge what is wrong or right, What comes around goes around.
Animals do have feelings like human beings, they deserved to live ,love ,caring and hugs. Nor matter what happen they are like us.
After watching the two videos it is still cruelty to me for what Katinka Simonse had done.
Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this post.
Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this article. In my humble opinion, different people have different thinking. She thinks the way of doing this is mainly her love to her cat. She thinks that since her cat was sick, she didn’t want to bring her to vet, because he cat was afraid to go to the vet. So, she might as well did it by her own hand as she didn’t want to see her cat suffer. Then, she used the car skin to make into a handbag so that she can always keep her beloved cat with her. From what I saw, it’s not right or wrong. Of course, from Buddhism point of view, every sentient beings has to go though the journey until the end by themselves. Whether to die peacefully or suffer, it depends on our karma. To manually end someone’s life, is no different from killing. But to a person who doesn’t have any Dharma knowledge and not aware of this, they think differently. They think to end the suffering earlier is to end their life. But they didn’t know there’s life after life. May Katinka will realize one day that, to put and make any life beings into art or anything she or people like, is cruelty. That she will face her own karma herself. _/\_
To justify this as anything else but murder, is to make excuses so you can engage in the same murderous acts of violence yourself. A point can be made without engaging in the same behaviour you accuse other people of. If you’re accusing people of violence and murder, your point will be better made if you don’t engage in it yourself. Otherwise you’re just as hypocritical as you accuse them of being. Case in point? Greenpeace, WWF, SPCA, etc. all raise awareness of animal cruelty and endangered species, by doing the EXACT opposite of what hunters, poachers, animal abusers do.
You are NOT an artist you are a butcher! YOUR art SUCKS, it’s ugly and has zero value just like you, UGLY AND ZERO VALUE. Put a gun in your mouth Satinka, stand in front of a canvas and pull the trigger, now that’s art, go ahead Satinka, DO IT!!!
Katinka, YOU are a SOCIAPATH!!! I don’t eat any kind of meat so I am not a hypocrite. You are mentally ill, you need to check yourself into a psych ward asap!!! I’m coming to Amsterdam to visit my family maybe I will see you on the street. Maybe you should be tortured just like you torture those poor innocent animals that just want to be loved. YOU are pure EVIL!!! SATIN & KATINKA = SATINKA, this is YOU! YOU are going to get your face bashed in, better watch your back!!!
Dear Rinpoche,
Thank you for sharing this story to us. This story is very unique and could force us to think deep of what is true cruelty and what the society label as cruelty.
I believe that what generated so much hate from the public is when she killed her cat and used the fur to make a bag out of it. The public could not accept that how can you kill your own pet and make a bag out of it’s fur. It is being labelled as cruelty. However, Tinkebelle explained that her cat is terminally sick and afraid of the vet. So, she sort of take matter into her own hand and euthanized her cat and used her fur to make a bag. She wanted to show the world that it is the same when we buy leather bags. The only difference between her “cat” bag and your leather bag is that you dont have feelings for the animal that died for your leather bag. How is it that her “cat” bag is cruel while your leather bag is totally acceptable. I agree her view on hypocrisy of the public.
However, I do not agree with her way of delivering the message.
Humbly,
Chris
I don’t think it is good to kill a cat just because it is unwell.
Indeed cats don’t usually like to go to vet, but that does not give you a reason to kill a cat.
What puzzles me is that which one is better?
If you kill your pet and make it into a purse you are being over attached to your pet.
However by buying other handbag brands you are still indirectly killing an animal.
Still i don’t think it is correct to kill a sick cat for a bag as it isn’t correct and it is totally revolting.
But one thing for sure is that you should not buy any handbags unless it is made of silk or other materials that don’t harm animals directly or indirectly.
I do hope that these kind of cases will never happen again.
Her saying that the cat whom his/her fur was used to create her cat fur bag was done because her cat was scared of the vet isn’t an excuse for her to use it’s fur to make a bag.
To me, when your beloved pet has died, we should leave it’s body intact and properly bury or cremate it as a show of respect for the pet that was once our companion.
Despite what she said about the cows that are slaughtered for it’s leather and meat,it doesn’t give her an excuse or reason to do the same.
It is totally gross and inhumane.
I am sure that Tinkerbell has no joy in hurting and killing these animals. I don’t support her in what she is doing but I agree with her on the hypocrisy the people give her. She is trying to raise awareness in how us, humans, are treating other animals that are not our pets. She is showing it by treating animals that are our pets the same way as we treat, for example, cows or snakes.
But I find that this doesn’t justify her actions as even though her intentions are good, she is still creating negative karma to herself by killing her cat and being cruel to the guinea pigs and hamsters and snails.
Dear Rinpoche,
This was a very interesting post. Though she did partake in animal abuse, I feel that her intention was not to make the animal suffer, but to create awareness of what cruelty people are doing to animals out in the whole, wide world. Such as her example of what humans do to cows in order to make them hamburgers. So in a sense, what she does is good as she has created a lot of awareness, albeit it s through very bad publicity.
However, though her intentions are not bad per se, this does not fully give her the right to kill. No one ever fully has the absolute right to kill, no matter what the intention.
Thank you for posting this, it was really, truly interesting to see between your intentions and actions.
Your humble student,
Keng Hwa.
Which why parasites like you should not breed, you only serve to infect social values. Seriously a cheap excuse at an attempt to call yourself an artist. Move aside Katinka with your garbage, let the Real artist with talent display Art.
I think that everyone has their own methods or ways of remembering their dead pets. I’m not supporting nor judging her but to me, once an animal is dead, its dead, you won’t feel anything physically after you’re dead. Some find it cruel because she wears the fur coats of her dead pets. Some may also said that, she should have let the cats passed away peacefully and with their carcasses fully intact. But, no offense, I still disagree with what she did, she should not be so attached to something that is dead. She could have prayed for her cats to take a better rebirth or something like that. I just feel that we shouldn’t be too attached to the things around us, be it living things or non living things, because nothing is permanent. I think that regarding this matter, its based on personal perspectives, some find it cruel and some find it okay.
Dear Rinpoche, raising her hamster in the ball is not good for the hamster I don’t know why she did that but as for the cat, she have done nothing wrong. People might think that she is crazy because she killed her sick cat and made it into a purse as for me, I don’t think so because when living beings are dead you can’t cause any more physical pain to them. I agree to Katinka Simonse except for the hamster part.
这女的逻辑很奇怪，难道老了生病了的宠物就不是生命吗？那别人也可以说看她不顺眼然后杀了她把她的皮拿来做衣物？？你说这是哪门子道理？？
It is just cruel to hurt any animals in any way. Taking away animals’ lives in the first place is wrong. She should not be doing that. With regards to her making her dead cat into a purse, I would say that I guess it would be understandable to a certain extend as she loves her cat.
For the hamsters in the hamster balls, there are a few different ways to look at it. One is that with them being in the hamster ball, they would be able to roam freely without having the fear of killing them by accident. We can also say that it is cruel because we are trapping them in an environment that they do not have a proper place to answer their calls from nature, and that they would not be able to eat a meal properly.
this is horrible to me, because if she thinks she does not like burgers because they kill the animal to get it she is doing the same. how does she think this is anyway ok??? cruelty is cruelty and there is no different type. i am glad i am a vegetarian.
I do not agree with this women’s words. I think what she is doing is sick and not right. And it is in fact, animal cruelty. But i can understand if she says that she killed her cat to stop it from suffering. That i get. But what i do not completely understand, is the fact that she turned her dead cat into a handbag. This could make people think that she killed her cat so that she could make a handbag for herself.
And also, i think how she keeps her hamsters in hamster balls is cruel. This is because, by doing this, she doesn’t give her hamster freedom. Instead they are stuck in a tiny ball waiting to get fed and to be played with. Thank you for sharing Rinpoche.
This is absolutely horrible. What she is doing is clearly a terrible sin. These defenseless animals deserve to live.
Whatever people says, she is crazy for killing her sick cat and made it into a bag. But she is not, she kill her sick pet cat and made it into a bag is because a lot of people they buy leather bags and purse and many cow died for this, since her pet cat is dying from sickness why don’t her kill her pet cat without suffering and made her into a bag so she don’t have to buy a leather bag that will kill another animal.
I think that she’s got a point. But I think that she should not be doing what the slaughters do, this makes her have to kill more animals. At the end, she became the the person she dislikes. I hope she figures this out and stop doing what she is doing.
Thank You for sharing Rinpoche.
Love, beatrix.
I don’t like what she did. She is cold and heartless and she loves attention. But she did send out a strong message against animal abuse even though that’s not the correct way to do. Every day, animals are killed in slaughter houses and the pain and sufferings they have to go through are worst then what this woman is doing. If we cant stand what she is doing, than we should not eat meat or use leather products.
listen whore. you’ve made me mad. why don’t you travel on down here and let me kill you.now bitch – i want to do you like that . i do not like you. i want to peel your skin off of your stinking ass. die whore die whore die whore. your pussy stinks and i’m telling the world. i’m posting it on my facebook that your pussy stinks.it will come home to you mistreating little beings like that.you will get yours and i hope i hear about it so i can laugh.let me know where they bury you so i can come by and shit on your grave.
You ask if it is “Cruelty or Art”
To me, it is neither…it’s just a wannabe trying to get publicity
The sick bitch needs to be beaten, stoned and hung in public. She needs to be skinned and her ugly body thrown in a river.Totally sick to my stomach hearing and even reading it. I just feel soo much of anger and hatred towards this whore.
Methinks that most of the haters here have not realized their own ignorance and hypocrisy which they display so openly and generously.
She is crueland somthing needs to be done to her, no this is NOT ART!!! Next it will be exploting children she is sick and twisted andany fool who thinks this is art needs to get seriuos help!!!!
Like it or not, this lady’s very unconventional way of highlighting the double standard of human society towards the treatment of “edible and non-edible” animals does strike a nerve in everyone. Any publicity is good publicity, as some would say. Hopefully people would not just stop at condemning her based on their notion of what cruelty is, but also consider her point of view on what cruelty is.
Check out her website- http://looovetinkebell.com/ (its rather disturbing but interesting at the same time).
I beleive there are much more humane ways to get people to listen to animal rights concerns,then actually being cruel and painting it up to be ok!!!!
She is obviously in need of evaluation of her reality. For the last five and a half years i have re-homed and sterilised dogs in Zakynthos and i endevour to take care of animals and the environment to best way i can…. and its still not enough. all this woman is doing is re-directing anger at her instead of where it should be, so stop her doing this to the animals and then we can get on with the real battle…… saving the environment and animals from the parasite that is the human race.
You are a good candidate for DEATH PENALTY. I hope with all my heart that animalists take you for suffer the same things that you make against animals!! You are a devil and the devils must be die. Attention now you are in serious danger because all the people want know who is you and certainly they succeed to understand who is you.I will send your video to all my friends and then………You are very dangerous and stupid in the same time,shut up and attention again.
Are you vegetarian, Perla?
Si tratta di un essere senza spirito alcuno ed anima!
I think she is very sick and need mental care . SHE IS NOT NORMAL IN HEAD , PERIOD
I couldn’t turn my kitteh into a bag, I couldn’t even set a trap for a mouse, I had to have my neighbor do it.
Any normal person who has been in such media-spotlight would find them disturbing, except her. The spotlight news even indicated that “she has been getting away with animal cruelty for the past few years and created a storm with such acts; in addition to receiving 100,000 plus hate emails aday”. But yet she had the cheek to claim that her acts were not appaling, repulsive and cruel, than the Burgerking who fatten up the animals to make into hamburgers to be sold and eaten up, which make her to puke! How radiant and proud she seemed to appear in her tv appearences. Through her ignorance of false compassion she had even cut up her own sick pet-cat and used her beautiful fur skin to be made into a purse-bag.How crazy can a being be, and yet by her own reasoning, seems to think whatever she has done were all OK!!!
Thank you, Rinpoche, for this most thought-provoking post.
From my own closed and limited mind, i can’t be sure if Tinkebell is showing ‘crazy wisdom’ or acting out of a deluded mind.
Nevertheless,she makes me think about the cultural norm regarding ‘What constitutes Cruelty’. It would appear that, according to this this cultural norm, it is cruel to kill some object near and dear to us, like one’s pet.It is cruel to keep one’s pets in small suffocating confines. This same cultural norm perceives as not cruel if an animal that is not one’s pet is (cruelly) force-fed, kept in suffocating confines and brutally slaughtered and served to us as delicious meat on our dinner table.
Again, it is cruel, according to this cultural norm, to take the skin of one’s dead pet(even though it had been killed, in an act of euthanasia, by its owner out of compassion for it and to end its suffering from a terminal illness) and make it into a bag. However, this same cultural norm deems it not cruel to have animals deliberately reared and (cruelly) killed for their skin so as to make lovely handbags for people to buy at exorbitant prices and use.
So. Tinkebell is making a strong statement in protest against the cultural norm of Cruelty and for that she is being vilified.
I agree with her veiws on leather shoes, bags and also her point on meat. It is a cruel process to make these products. However I do not agree with what she is doing. Since she doesn’t agree with people wearing leather and eating meat then why is she doing the same thing? This is only my veiw but I think if there is something that we don’t agree with because it is cruel or unfair we shouldn’t react to it but only teach people how to act. So in a way your being a good example for people. This is only my veiw.
-Millie
This woman sense of righteousness is way off and she is obviously lapping up the attention given to her. No living beings should suffer and use a warped up excuse to kill is creating a delusion that this is an ok act. The media publicity given to her will only confuse the vulnerable. She has created so much negative karma, it will take a lots and lots of sincere practice to save her.
More aptly, this is no more than a perverted sense of compassion.
If the law can’t stop her actions, karma will take care of it.
What gives anyone the right to kill to make a point for saving other lives? Can only be self justification/gratification logic, otherwise labelled as gross delusion. If the law can’t stop
I find this very wrong. I think that she is self-contradictory and she is very, very deluded.
She is self-contradictory because she thinks that harming her animals is okay while seeing burger consumption as bad.
She is deluded as she thinks that the animal will have less suffering if it was murdered by the owner rather than being euthanized. I think that there would still be more suffering.
I feel sorry for this lady as she is a murderer and she most probably might become one animal that goes to slaughter or maybe a hell being at the rate she is killing.
If someone close to me was going to die of something like cancer, I would not kill him and skin him or her to make a bag.
How we judge her, is in fact how we should see ourselves. She is no other than our own society (and ourselves) in the fullness of our ignorance. On the one hand, we pretend not to know how badly animals are being treated before they become food and things for human beings. On the other hand, we think that we can highlight human cruelty by committing even more cruelty.
However, i salute her in-your-face-approach because shock is what is needed when gentle pleas have not been heeded for decades.
Anyone who criticize and judge her must FIRST check if they themselves are meat eaters and therefore partakers of cruelty, and users of things that come from animals having to suffer (such as cosmetics, handbags etc). If they are, they have no right to judge because they are DIRECTLY contributing to the cruelty. There is no denying that animals are tortured and abused for human’s sakes. And so, when you eat meat, YOU make it ok for the animal to be tortured. In fact it is your lust for meat that causes the So, lets not pretend.killings.
What is more ignoble than doing nothing, is to show indignation when someone does something out of good motive, regardless of whether the method is right or not.
I guess the most offensive thing about this woman is that she reminds us, of our own actions that we have not wanted to come to terms with.
I don’t agree with what she did but what she said did send a strong message –
Just because we buy our meat from a supermarket doesn’t mean we are not responsible for killing the animals whose carcasses end up on our dinner table and by paying a vet to put our terminally ill pets to sleep doesn’t make us a kind and loving pet owner. In fact these pet owners are just like her.
Interesting point she brought up there. I think her point makes sense but it is self-defeating because she uses cruelty towards familiar animals to highlight the plight of other animals. The point she neglects to mention is the fact that she is still cruel. The publicity stunt of making the handbag out of her sick cat seems to fuel her more than the actual cause. Her pink eyes look cold and without feeling when she talks about it. She loved her hate mail. It is the most attention she ever gotten in her life and the fact that she published it as a book shows how much she loves it. A lot of tell tale signs that she is off and is loving the attention from it.
Agree. She’s playing here with people’s feelings, and triggers them as strong as possible
That’s not new from self-proclaimed action “artists.
I remember in the 70ies a theatre show where so-called “action artists” slaughtered geeses on stage. (red blood on white feathers: drama)… with the pretense of “raising awareness” that we are all killers or so with the difference, that they claimed to be “honest” one’s. Well. Its a violent way to make a point.
I think that woman is sick, I think she is mentally ill. Anyone who has really loved a cat, or any other pet, would never do such thing! If she really cared she would find other ways to convey her message, because that horror bag can never be a positive message, and a book of hate mail is not really something to be proud of.
Thank you Rinpoche for posting this topic, she does make a valid point to bring to the fore what is cruelty however her logic to support her argument (by euthinasing her pet cat and turning into a handbag and use of small hampsters) about the suffering of animals for society eating pleasure is no different.
Suffering is suffering for the animals on both sides of this arguement presented in the videos. It shows very clearly that without dharma how one can certainly be lead down wrong views, perceptions and resulting karmas on both sides of the debate.
The Buddhas determination to find the “middle way” on his path to enlightenment…after years of intense asectic practice…makes me contemplate what would a middle way message could have been better? to bridge the debate from both sides who care for animals in their unique ways.
Behind initial appearances I ask myself what is Katinka Simonse motivation for the debate she has put herself in the middle of? Why would you want to print a book of the hate mail you have recieved? For more attention and support your arguement, I am right they are wrong…
In the whole debate no animal suffering she claims to be against has changed or stopped from her side.
As part of my practice to remember the suffering of animals apart from taking a vegetarian vow for life (and current transition to full vegan) I dedicate small prayers when I see the excess of fashion for visual pleasure, where I live it seems to me in the past couple of years women’s leather footwear has increased in heights (maybe fake leather or not) either way in my view still perpetuates the cycle of use and abuse of animals.
From my own experience consistency of what you believe in (regarding being vegetarian) highlighting the issues of animal suffering and consistency of walking the talk softens attitudes and helps bridge gaps between hardened attitudes of I only eat meat (followed by sometimes ridicule, sometimes anger and other responses not suitable for the blog, is nothing compared to the karma of being the animal that has to suffer needlessly for humans).
Actually it is very easy to influence close friends and family to change their habits when they are able to see other aspects of the debate they could not see clearly in the past plus the longterm consistency of your actions.
Rinpoche and blog team thank you for the timely reminder and inspiration/support to practice contemplation of compassion time and time again. Please everyone take to heart and put into practise the benefit you derive from this post also.
Much love and prayers. Jason
Non sense for me. if I miss my good friend from far , so I am going to kill him and transform his skin in a bag to carry him close to me everyday?!? Non sense There is here , because there are not some animals who can be killed and others who can’t… Any living beings , whatever species it belongs has the right to live his life and be happy without being hurt. May every beings live with joy and happiness whoever species they belong to! <3 om mani padme hung. om mani padme hung for all the ones who has been killed with the will to or by accident. may everyone realise that no-one, humans or animals, want to be hurt or kill. Om mani padme hung.
I think no matter how strongly we felt about certain things and would like to bring a message across we should not partake in actions that brings suffering to any living beings. There is alot of other altrnatives way such as those done by PETA which has gotten lots of publicity. We may perceived our actions as right and appropriate but it is not always the correct nor best way.
As said by Rinpoche = ” May no animals suffer ”
One less suffers , is one better.
Hi Liew, you are so right and you took the words right out of my mouth. There are many ways to help lessen sufferings of the animals. She said people are cruel eating a hamburger but what gives her the right to kill and parade it around? Hypocrites in their own way and in denial of what people says because of ignorance. Not only may no animals suffer but may all of us be free of sufferings…
There is NO excuse for torturing, abusing or killing an animal for fun or to make a statement! The fight for animal rights and for humane treatment of all, including animals that are used for food, can be well done without causing more suffering. This woman is working the same way as the “fight against terrorism”. Fighting fire with fire. And in this case at the cost of animals’ lives. Shame shame shame on her. My friends and myself fight for every single life here in Ireland where animals are treated especially bad. We give our time, money and heart’s blood to take dogs out of the killing pounds, to rescue abandoned, abused, neglected or tortured cats, horses and dogs. Most of us are vegetarians or vegans. We try to make a difference not only by helping animals directly, we also organise peaceful demos to make people and the government aware of the problems. We organise fund raisers for the rescue organisations that all work on a volunteer basis. We try to rehome (and we do home checks before any animal goes to a new home) as many pets as we can. we fight for a no-kill policy in the pounds.
We try to be the voice of those that cannot speak for themselves. That does NOT include killing,, maiming, torturing or abusing the ones we fight for. How hypocritical is THAT???
Dear friends, I am not judging this woman, but I present some of the findings here for you. It’s just for awareness.
Take a look. May no animals suffer.
TR