Question asked by Lisa
Hello Pastors:
I will visit Thailand soon and I knew that Thai People that they are very devoted to Buddha but beside of this, they also worship many many gods.
I have one questions about one famous site in Thailand called Erawan Chapel:
They worship Four-faced Bhrama called Phra Phrom and how do you think about this God? Is he mundane or supramundane Dharmapala? Is it safe to make a prayer or a wish infront of Him?
I have been practice and prayer to Lord Dorje Shugden for long time and sure that, I don't know any prayer to Phra Phrom or any deities outside Gelug Traditions.
So, can I use a pray to lord Tsongkhapa and a pray to lord Shugden infront of Phra Phrom?
Thank you so much.
Dear Lisa,
Thank you for your question. Within Buddhism, one of the tenets of the faith is to only take refuge in those beings who are enlightened. As I am sure you are already aware, the god realm is one of the six realms of samsara, and sentient beings are born within these realms endlessly until and unless they become enlightened.
As you mentioned Phra Phrom is Four-Faced Brahma, who is a god. He is neither a mundane or supremundane Dharmapala. There may be others gods with the same name as Brahma, but Four-Faced Brahma/Phra Phrom is a worldly god. However, he is a very high-level god who is very much respected, but not prayed to in the sense of going to him for Refuge.
While this particular shrine is very famous as it is said he grants wishes, petitioners who go to him must promise to fulfil certain offerings, etc., if their prayers are fulfilled. If their wishes are fulfilled and the promised offerings not made on time, it is also well-known that they will be struck with misforunte because he has become angry at them. This shows, he is a worldly god, still in samsara although very high-level and very powerful. The enlightened beings on the other hand, do not get any with practitioners, because they have no anger.
However, given this, of course you can still visit the shrine. You can even make the traditional offerings that are available there, such as flowers, fruits, etc. This is not the same as making offerings to the enlightened beings, nor does it generate merit. It is more like giving a gift to someone you respect. You are basically paying respect to him.
If you are strong in your Buddhist practice, when there you would not ask him for anything, make any wishes, etc. You are simply giving him offerings as a mark of respect. When there, you can pray to Lama Tsongkhapa, Dorje Shugden, whichever enlightened being you like, but you are not praying to Four-Faced Brahma, but reciting the prayers of the enlightened beings. This will help bless the shrine itself with the energies of the enlightened beings, as well as yourself, just like reciting prayers to the Buddhas would naturally bless you and environment when recited normally.
I hope this answer helps.