Question asked by Eric
Hello again Pastor Niral
I would like to ask you about Mo divinations and what role the "Deity" plays in it.
When you "invoke" the "Deity" to assist you in your divination does the deity enter you or the ritual item that you are using?
I will use the example of the Dorje Shugden "Dice Divination" method of Mo.
After you have "invoked" Dorje Shugden does he enter the "Dice" and provide the "Mo Master" the answers?
The alternative is that Dorje Shugden enters the "Mo Master" and through him he manipulates the dice to answer the questions.
Also instead of using Dorje Shugden could you use the say the Dharampala "Namkar Barzin" when doing say a "Mala" divination?
I have read on Rinpoche's two websites that the Dorje Shugden "Dice" divination requires permission from your Lama and a formal Dorje Shugden "Divination" retreat.
I have used Namkar Barzin who I feel a strong connection with to do simple "Mala" divinations that require only a simple "Yes" or "No" answer.
And with that in mind could you "invoke" Dorje Shugden in a "Mala" divination?
I understand that he has a greater power to see into the future than a Dharmapala and his answers would be more complete.
In one of Rinpoche's you tube videos he mentions that he would be training some of his people to be able to do "Mo" divinations.
Has the happened yet?
Maybe Pastor you could do a you tube video on the topic of "Mo" divinations.
Thank you Pastor Patel for your insightful answers to my last series of questions.
Hello Eric,
The method in which the deity aids in divination depends on the actual mechanism of divination. In the case of Dorje Shugden’s dice divination, the deity does not enter the person doing the divination, but guides the dice to land on the right side to give an accurate answer. Some forms of divination require the practitioner to have developed some form of clairvoyant ability and others require faith in the particular deity. The Dorje Shugden divination dice relies on the latter.
There are actually quite a few guidelines to be followed, not just in the training one must undergo to receive the dice, but in the process of making the dice, and the process in which one uses the dice. Over all, it must be done without a selfish mind, but one that seeks benefit for others. The same applies for other forms of divination, such as mala divination.
As for divination methods relying on Namkha Barzin, I have not come across mention of this before. However, the Dorje Shugden divination is much more reliable because Dorje Shugden is an enligtened being and therefore his clairvoyant ability is much more advanced than Namkha Barzin because the latter is not enlightened. In fact Dorje Shugden’s clairvoyance is the highest, as he is a Buddha.
As for mala divination relying on Dorje Shugden, this is also possible because he is an enlightened being, though I have not come across a tradition or system of mala divination based on Dorje Shugden before.
In regards to Rinpoche training people in divination, none of Rinpoche’s students have completed the entire training process necessary, with all the other per-requisites, at this time. I hope this helps.