Women Rule on Prestige Magazine 2012

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Dear students and friends,

Guess who’s on the front cover of August 2012’s issue of Prestige Magazine??? Head Liaison and President of Kechara House Datuk May, Liaison Li Kim, and Li Kheng! The Phng ladies (mother and two daughters) were approached by the magazine to be interviewed, as they have inspired others through their secular and spiritual success. In Prestige’s August issue, there’s an 8-page feature article on their take on life. Wonderful pictures.

I have known Datuk May since 2007. When I first met her, she was direct, very vocal and had minimal Dharma knowledge… but through it all, I could see that she was a kind and intelligent lady who was very interested in spirituality. Datuk May is one of my students that has shown transformation within a few years in the Dharma… I’m very proud and happy for her… not for any other reason, but because she practices sincerely and has gained visible results from applying the Dharma into her life.

From her transformation, she has brought her two daughters into the Dharma. Now, Datuk May’s eldest daughter Li Kim is the CEO of the publication arm of Kechara, and her younger daughter Li Kheng is working in the Ladrang Dept of Kechara. How wonderful that their family motto is to benefit others. The two daughters work hard and sincerely for dharma and they dedicate their merits to their mom, dad and people they love. Selfless.

Do read the featured article of this wonderful trio and let me know what you think. Did their life story inspire you in anyway? Which picture did you enjoy the most?

Tsem Rinpoche 

 


  

Prestige – August 2012

 

 

Turning 65 years old come October; Datuk May Phng is one accomplished lady. Hers is a name highly regarded, not just within circles of the upper echelon but beyond. Renowned for her strong business acumen and firm hand in raising four children who are today strong, independent and successful adults in their own right, Datuk May has earned many monikers over the years, one of them being The Dragon Lady.

Datuk May is not just The Dragon Lady however: She is wife to Phng Hooi Siang whose family established the reputable Asia Motors, mother of four, grandmother of eight, director of a couple of business, member of the Board of Trustees of the Malaysian Rubber Export Promotion Council, president and head liaison of Buddhist organization Kechara, teacher, student and more. Though these titles may come across an ‘icing on the cake’ to many, hers is a life of challenges, sleepless nights, working round-the-clock, anxiety, stress and frustration, along with all that entails marrying into a wealthy yet traditionally conservative Chinese family.

Of her mother; Li Kim, the elder of two daughters and Datuk May’s second child, says, “My mother is pivotal in most of my key decisions in life. She is someone whom I respect very much and the epitome of what I believe to be an independent woman. She is brilliant and experienced, so I take her advice very seriously.”

Younger sister Li Kheng, says, “My mum and I share a relationship that’s trusting and inspiring. She has been my life coach, generously sharing her experiences and opinions that have contributed to my growth as a person. Since the age of 16, I have been chatting with mum about life philosophies deep into the night. Many of the principles I live by are based on the things I learned from those conversations.”

We go back to the early years to get a better picture of Datuk May who married into the Phng family at the age of 18.

“I met my husband when I was 17. I was then teaching primary school children at the Pudu English Girls’ School and taking shorthand and typing classes at night. I must’ve been quite a good teacher as the headmistress referred me to the famous teaching training facility at Kirkby in Liverpool, UK. I also received a scholarship to study in America but I thought, why waste time, better get married,” Datuk May remembers. It was back in the 60s then and the choice between a blossoming romance and studying abroad was clear. She chose the former, but it wasn’t all about eating, drinking, making merry and enjoying the perks of marrying into a wealthy family. Instead, she went to work for the late Tun Sir Henry HS Lee as his personal assistant, who was then in charge of the Development and Commercial Bank. Soon after, her father-in-law suggested that she work for the family at Asia Motors and that was where her training in business began. “The offer came just in time, thank goodness. I couldn’t see myself as a teacher forever. My mind was too wild,” claims Datuk May.

At the automobile industry’s peak, Datuk May managed four to five departments at Asia Motors. She even supervised the running of an oil palm estate and developed buildings under the family business’ property arm. How Datuk May managed to oversee all these enterprises without having gone through the whole nine yards of a formal education was simply because of her fearless nature and sheer determination.

“I remember the time my father-in-law told me to start developing buildings. I had to work with architects, engineers and contractors. I didn’t even know what piling was or even what columns or beams were, for that matter,” Datuk May reveals. She relates how she pushed herself to learn as much as she could, even if it meant working round-the-clock overseeing the development of buildings along the highway and building Malaysia’s first ice-skating rink at what was known at the time as Asia Jaya. “Back in those days when most married women were homemakers, I applaud my father-in-law who believed in the power and capability of women despite the fact that he was one of the most traditional men I’ve ever known! For him, when it comes to smarts, it didn’t matter whether you were male or female. Much of my business training come from him.”

Datuk May continued to work, building her family business empire even as she and her husband began to grow their family. She tells of the time her father-in-law was overjoyed when she bore the family their first grandchild, Phng Wee Kiat – the start of the third generation. “My father-in-law threw a huge ‘full moon’ party and because of the Phng family status, everybody congratulated my father-in-law instead of me,” says Datuk May who was barely 20 years old then. Second child Li Kim was born four years later.

“After my two brothers-in-law got married and started their own families, my father-in-law came up to me and said I was hopeless, having given him only two children in a span of 10 years,” says Datuk May. “I knew I’d better quickly bear another child or my father-in-law would get a second wife for his son. The problem was, I wasn’t on any birth control and simply wasn’t getting pregnant. Moreover, both the other daughter-in-law were producing girls. On the birth of my third child Li Kheng eight years later, my father-in-law came into the delivery room and said, ‘Even you have given me a granddaughter.’ I assured him that around this time next year, I will give him a grandson. At that time, my gynecologist Dr McCoy asked me how I was going to do such a thing as I wasn’t very fertile. I told him, don’t worry, I’ll do it.” Determined, she surely was and that was exactly what she did 13 months later with her son, Wee Liang. “You’ll be amazed at what the mind can do,” says Datuk May. “At this time, there were nine Phng grandchildren. Two were boys and they were both my sons.”

Datuk May then shares about the passing of her father-in-law in 1984, followed by her mother-in-law six months later. Due to disputes within the family, the business was liquidated. By that time, Datuk May had already started her own medical glove manufacturing business, Ampri Rubberware Industries, which she ran together with Li Kim upon her daughter’s graduation.

Li Kim, a Bachelor of Science graduate armed with a degree in Business Administration from the Pepperdine University in California, shares that being the daughter of the founder made little difference as she had to start from scratch like any other employee. She refers to her childhood as one where she was treated like  a princess and enjoyed an extremely privileged lifestyle: “Once during an outing with our relatives, my brother and I spotted an organ and a piano which we both liked. Next thing we knew the piano and organ were delivered to the house,” says Li Kim. As the two eldest grandchildren and the first two of the third generation in the Phng family, Li Kim and her brother grew up with many golden opportunities. Armed with maids and body guards, they were sent to study at a boarding school in Singapore and lived with their grandparents over the weekends.

Upon the passing of their grandparents, Li Kim returned to complete her secondary education at an international school in KL and then, went off to study in the US for three-and-a-half years. “I contemplated taking up law like my father or perhaps becoming an actress,” says Li Kim who finally took up business with the expectation to work in her mother’s glove manufacturing company. Happy-go-lucky by nature and one who knew how to have a good time in any situation, Li Kim doesn’t deny that her parents never gave in to her whims and fancies. In fact, she says, “They were clear from the very beginning with their terms and conditions, rules and regulations.”

The eldest daughter relates how her father gave her an ultimatum to get her degree before she turned 22. “I did and graduated one month just before my 22nd birthday,” she says with a smile. Of Li Kim, Datuk May says, “Li Kim has a very quick mind and she operates with more freedom. She is not afraid of what people think of her and so, she’s not so pressured to produce results. Being the eldest granddaughter in the family, along with my elder son, they were raised more by my husband’s parents and totally spoilt by their aunties and uncles.” Like her enterprising mother however, Li Kim simultaneously took on a role with a German dental company, managing the company’s outsource manufacturing facility in Malaysia while working with her mother to run the glove manufacturing business. After eight years of managing both these manufacturing establishments, Li Kim ventured into other avenues dealing in marketing and digital media.

Datuk May sold off the glove manufacturing business after 10 successful years and helped her son to start a company setting up ‘clean rooms.’ “It’s a niche market and my son became quite a specialist at it,” says the proud mother, who later handed the company over to her son.

Datuk May then decided to take it easy, enjoying the things she never had much time for. “I began travelling, playing mahjong, reading all the books I’ve always wanted to read, going to the gym to exercise, buying jewellery and going shopping,” she says. As one who has always thrived on challenges however, that period didn’t last very long. Restless, the businesswoman soon felt the pace in Malaysia a tad too slow for her liking.

Datuk May recalls visiting The People’s Republic of China back in 1999 and 2000 when its economy was just booming. It was also at this time that a business opportunity arose in China and Datuk May saw her chance to put her foot in the door.

In the meantime, Li Kheng, a graduate from Ecole Hotelier de Lausanne in Switzerland, had just resigned from a position at The Parkroyal Hotel. The second daughter says, “As an academic who only went from school to home with a few tuition teacher visits in between, I was fearful that I would grow up clever but not smart. Despite signing the Book of Excellence and graduating as the top girl from one of the most prestigious hospitality schools in the world, I dreaded entering the ‘real world’ after graduation as I was fearful that I would fall flat on my face.”

Still, the young and determined Li Kheng had plans of her own. She aimed to become general manager of a five-star hotel by the age of 35 and swore never to be roped into the family business. Fate had other plans however. Today, Li Kheng is CEO of The Coffee Bean Shanghai and runs a chain of 30 (soon to be 36) Coffee Bean outlets throughout China – all under the family business.

“The Coffee Bean was on the brink of going bankrupt at the end of November 2004. As I had just left The Parkroyal, my family thought I could go over, monitor the liquidation and find a job in the world’s upcoming cosmopolitan city. So, I got on the plane with zero management experience and no idea of what was to come,” says Li Kheng. “I like to share with young people that life, to quote Forrest Gump, is like a box of chocolates. We should never become too fixated on what we should have, could have or would have done. Instead, we have to embrace the blessings we’ve been given and make the best of the situation we find ourselves in,” she says.

On gender issues and running a business in China, Li Kheng says, “I have a lot of fun doing business as a woman in China. Equality between genders is present in China especially in big cities. For those who have doubts, my advice is: do not focus on the obstacles of being a woman as you will only create a situation for those obstacles to grow. Harness the power of your feminine energy – we all have feminine and masculine energies, the yin and yang – to create the results you want. I believe we should enjoy being treated like ‘ladies’ so that the men get the opportunity to be gentlemen. This becomes the one experience in business that men cannot get from other men.”

All three women take pride in who they are and agree that women should take pride in their femininity. “Being feminine does not equate to being a damsel in distress,” says Datuk May. “Feminity is beautiful, strong, confident, vulnerable, honest and open. It’s the one thing we women can naturally do better than men simply by being who we are. Being a woman does not mean beating down on the men or being a feminist. A powerful synergy can be formed when men and women live in harmony.”

While their careers and businesses are extremely important to the three ladies, when asked about the real turning point in their lives, it was spirituality and awareness, and not the bottom line. “I came to a point when I realized I was known only within my inner circle. I was comfortable only with those at my level who accepted my rigidness and submitted to my wish to do things my way,” shares Datuk May. “I got rid of people who didn’t do things the way I wanted them done – a much easier choice for me although it was at times discomfiting. I would get into bouts of depression asking myself why I did this to others.”

At that time, Datuk May was a trainer at Asia Works and had facilitated about six leadership programmes when she received a vision. “That vision was for everyone to live in peace. In doing so, each person creates a better environment which enables everybody to live in inner peace, thus creating a better world.” Over time however, she found her efforts at Asia Works futile and started wondering if there was something else she could do. This led her to meeting her spiritual guide HE Tsem Rinpoche in July 2007.

“I was greatly moved after a conversation with Rinpoche, spiritual advisor of Kechara, about spirituality and bringing benefit to others. I thought to myself, this was a place where my vision could grow. I realized after our conversation that while HE’s vision was miles ahead and much bigger in scope than mine, our visions were along a similar path,” says Datuk May whose spiritual journey transformed as she began to practice Dharma.

Datuk May’s gradual transformation did not escape unnoticed by her children and today, every family member is an active member of the Kechara Buddhist organization. Li Kheng, together with a few friends, set up Kechara Tea House – Kind & Kinda Delicious and Kechara Soup Kitchen in Shanghai. “Kechara Tea House is an F&B concept developed based on the teachings of HE Tsem Rinpoche on kindness and respect to the environment,” she shares. “It is a vegetarian bistro that serves a variety of healthy dishes that use natural ingredients gifted to us by nature. Unlike most vegetarian concepts that create a mock-meat menu, here we reintroduce the deliciousness of vegetables. We accompany our wide array of dishes with innovative tea concoctions like Ruby Tara MarTEAni made with roselle, hawthorn and licorice, as well as Beauty Vitamin made with oolong tea and fresh snow pear juice.”

In KL, Li Kim has come to run one of 13 departments under the Kechara umbrella as CEO of Kechara Media & Publications. She says, “I may have been born a Buddhist or Taoist but spirituality to me was merely a concept. Praying on Wesak Day and on the eighth day of Chinese New Year was about as religious as I could be.” She had her first encounter with HE at a private function in 2009, which she says left her thinking, “Buddhism ain’t that boring after all.”

Li Kim says, “My aspiration has always been to be happy within and without. It hasn’t changed since coming to Kechara. In fact, it’s here that I find myself closer to achieving my aspiration. Kechara has helped me find true happiness that comes from a deep inner self. My aspiration now is to be happy with a purpose,” says the mother of three boys.

Under Li Kim’s leadership as CEO, Kechara Media & Publications (KMP) has published my inspirational books and a number of bestsellers such as the recently released The Promise and Tales My Lama Told Me, along with previous titles like If Not Now When, 108 Ways To Grab My Apples, PEACE, Gurus for Hire, Why I Make Myself Unhappy and Snakes, Roosters and Pigs. Together with her team, she has not only put KMP on the global map but through her books and the essence of her Dharma work, has shared her Spiritual Guide’s thoughts and teachings with the rest of the world.

In addition, Li Kim has also taken paper to television, with KMP’s first of 13 television series soon to be aired on NTV7 called Tsem’s Paranormal Zone. “The show is broken down into entertaining and informative 30-minute segments. It’s basically about spirits that are really all around us,” she says, not wanting to let the cat fully out of the bag. As the host of the programme, Li Kim is one step closer to her lifelong dream of becoming an actress.

The three ladies believe that Malaysian businesswomen should network more in support of one another. “We should stop giving into the rules and regulations of the world, stop falling prey to oppression, suppression and repression. We cannot relate to our power and empowerment in the same way a man does. We should look at the strengths and gifts we have as women and use them well,” says Datuk May passionately. “And I personally don’t think Asian women are any more restricted or restrained than women in other parts of the world. Just look at Indira Gandhi, the first female prime minister. We women are very strong in many ways.”

Datuk May encourages all women to stand up for themselves and be proud of who they are. In a lesson she’s always taught her children: “Our situation is always in our hands. An independent person is one who dares to do what he or she wants to do – mistakes and all. Don’t let society’s norms entrap you. When Malaysia received independence in 1957, did you think the leaders were going to regret it? They decided they had to do something for things to change. We will always make mistakes but don’t let mistakes pull you back. If you fall, just get up and go on – that’s independence. It has nothing to do with your social status, money or education. It’s all in the mindset. Independence is how well you take what you have in your life and what you do with it.”

 

 

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  1. philyong on Jan 30, 2013 at 10:40 pm

    I have personally worked with all 3 ladies and I gotta say they are really passionate about the Dharma.

    Datuk May had many successful ventures in her life and when she first met Kechara, she was at a stage where she could comfortably retire but yet she chose to walk the Dharma path. Not only that, she also got Li Kim and Li Kheng involved because she knows there is no other way better than Dharma.

    It is nice to see the mother and daughters team working together for a good cause, at the very least although in Kechara it is much more than just a good cause. I hope this family will inspire more people to come in to the Dharma. They truly are a good example of a Dharma family.

  2. Jean Ai on Jan 15, 2013 at 1:36 am

    You know what the best thing about this article is? I have had the privilege of working with all three women and NOTHING in this article is a lie or embellishment. They really are as strong, intelligent, tenacious and highly accomplished as the Prestige has painted them to be.

    Kechara really is built on female energy, and appropriately so since we’re named after the paradise of the female Buddha Vajrayogini. Datuk May and her daughters built up Kechara House, Dato Ruby built up Kechara Soup Kitchen, Irene built Kechara Oasis, Datin Ng was Rinpoche’s first major sponsor who cleared our debts accrued as a result of opening KH1 (our first Dharma centre!)…at every crucial stage and milestone in Kechara’s history, there’s always been a strong woman holdiing up the roof ;)

  3. uncle eddie on Jan 12, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    What Dato May had said to all women, including her two daughters is, “To stand up for themselves”, is indeed very inspiring and true to the core. We must be brave enough to pursue a life of purpose and passion, have faith that dreams or visions can come through, believe in possibilities and be aware that self-imposed limits can prevent us from moving beyond situations that may be undesirable! Whether we believe it or not, some women do truly make better Leaders than men, if not for the long prejudiced fact many are overlooked based solely on gender. Over the last decades, we have seen a female Prime Minister in England, India, and Pakistan, just to mention a few. Many more will come forth on the scene in the near future. So dont lose hope ladies!

  4. Wan Wai Meng on Jan 7, 2013 at 6:23 pm

    This is an amazing story about this three women and their lives. Mao has always said that women held half the world up and this is rightly so within Kechara as well. In Kechara many key positions are held by ladies and these women are absolutely spiritual to the max. It is a pleasure to be working side by side with these ladies.

  5. Sharon on Jan 5, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    Amazing women indeed. I would love to know how Datuk May steered her daughters towards Dharma to become the gorgeous and accomplished women they are today.

  6. Milly on Jan 4, 2013 at 10:37 am

    Datuk May is such an inspiration to everyone. A hands-on President of Kechara who offers her time and financial assistance untirelessly. Datuk May is blessed with children who are very committed to the Dharma. I wish Datuk May,Li Khim and Li Kheng every success.

  7. Lucas Roth on Jan 3, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    nice job mom! nice job to all of them. i am happy that they are who they are now, if not they would be totally different. they are all very hardworking, inspiring and kind people. please let them live long so that they can benefit others. :D

  8. Paris on Jan 3, 2013 at 1:13 am

    Beautiful! And what an honour it has been to work with these powerful ladies. The world is a better place for having the three of them in it and I am proud to be able to call Li Kim and Li Kheng my friends and my sisters and Datuk May, a spiritual fairy godmother like no other. Just as the article highlights, it’s wonderful to see a mother working and practising alongside her two daughters, and to see how they each support and inspire each other in the Dharma. This is one of the best things we can do together with our families and the people we love. Dinner parties, holidays, going out and all that is fun and good, but ultimately, it doesn’t really help us in the long term or at the most crucial moment of death… I’ve come to really understand that the best thing we can do for the people we love so much, like our sisters / brothers and parents is to help them connect as much as possible to spirituality, positive karmic imprints and lots of merit.

    I have had the good fortune to work directly with Li Kim when we were both in KMP together, and later, with Li Kheng in the Ladrang. And what wonderful times we’ve had – my spiritual journey in Kechara and in Dharma would definitely not have been the same without these two dearest friends. It is such an honour to know two beuatiful, talented girls like these, who can have and do any and everything they want in the world, but who have chosen instead to devote a life to helping others through the Dharma – and really, it is when they’re right in the midst of doing a Dharma project, coordinating something in Kechara, working knee deep in soil at KFR that you see them at their most brilliant. Thank you both for being such wonderful friends, the true sisters that I have never had and an incredible inspiration for the millions of other girls out there in the world who will look to you and see just how amazing spiritual practice can be.

  9. Doreen Teoh on Jan 2, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    Datuk May has always been an inspiration to me. Her strong will, determination, hard working, and her work that she has dedicated to her family, career, and Dharma especially to Kechara and Rinpoche is such a great admiration.

    Datuk May is a representation of our Iron Lady in Malaysia. I love the pictures of Datuk May with her two beautiful, confidence daughters. It shows a very good bonding of mother and daughters.

    Thank you, Datuk May for what you have done for my family in Kechara.

  10. Shin on Jan 2, 2013 at 2:35 am

    I am very happy that a magazine like Prestige are inspired by these great women and decide to feature them.

    Datuk May, Li Kim and Li Kheng are not just successful businesswomen, they are also great motivators, and mentors/ guides who will bring out the best in you, leading by example. I am lucky to have met and work with these great women.

    Different from other businesswomen I know, they put spirituality and benefiting others their priority, instead of just totally focusing on profit and how to ‘utilise’ (exploit?!) human resources.

    It’s also good to read about how each of them as individual, rise to the challenge they face in different aspects of their lives, and like what Li Kheng said, embrace the blessings we’ve been given and make the best of the situation we find ourselves in.

    I am also glad that these women showed other women out there that despite being successful businesswomen, you can also embrace spirituality and volunteer your time for a higher cause – spiritual and personal development of others.

  11. Judy on Dec 31, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    Here is a family who have whatever most of us could only dream of, and yet, Datuk May, Li Kim & Li Kheng have let go of a good life and luxuries to serve their Guru and be close to Dharma. I admire and respect these three power women.

  12. Daisy on Dec 31, 2012 at 9:47 am

    To me, this is a very true and inspiring story! Datuk May is my icon. She is well educated and with her right asset/timing and super positive mind to bring out the best despite thinking she is just a female/mother of four. I like the photo that shows the strength of individual, where Datuk May was sitting at the back (firmed/stable/confident), Li Kim the most front (bold/freedom/cheerful) and Li Kheng (soft/feminine) posing next to her mom. It shows the women quality should compose of these 3 perfect combinations, Inner (heart/mind stable), speech (soft /persuasive), and appearance (smile/positive). 温婉内敛,外柔内刚. Rejoice Datuk May & Family.

  13. Andrew Boon on Dec 31, 2012 at 12:39 am

    Datuk May has been an inspiring President of Kechara for two terms running and there is no sign of her slowing down. In fact, she has inspired both her daughter into Dharma! And both Li Kim and Li Kheng are now both in the Ladrang serving our beloved Rinpoche!

    Two generation of strong beautiful women… women who are to be reckoned with. Women who are Dharmically inclined. But most of all women that we love!

  14. Sharon Saw on Dec 31, 2012 at 12:21 am

    These three ladies are truly inspirational. Although they are related, they are different in character but the same trait of strength, determination and independence is very evident. Datuk May has certainly set a good example to her daughters for them both to join Dharma full time after having successful careers.

    The three of them look great in the photoshoot, despite being taken after an all-night meeting, which just shows how steely these three ladies are. I find all three of them inspirational – for their openness to the Dharma and their genuine care for their Dharma family. Datuk May in particular, only met Dharma when she was 60 years old, which shows that you are never too old to learn and to constantly change for the better.

    My favourite shot is the cover shot, which shows three elegant, powerful ladies who now have devoted their lives to benefiting others – which is reflective of the teachings and compassion of their Guru, Tsem Rinpoche.

  15. sarahyap on Dec 30, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    Very nice article on Datuk Phng, Li Kim and Li Kheng. I like how they were very honest with their life story and talked about the ups and downs in their lives… I feel Datuk May’s life really inspiring, a very powerful and strong lady.

  16. Sheryl KH (JB) on Dec 30, 2012 at 2:28 pm

    When I see the first picture, it makes me feel that somehow this mother and daughter relationship is blessed prior to their current life. Li Kim through past life regression hypnosis in one of Tsem’s Paranormal show has also said that her then mother looked like Datuk May Phng. We have also learnt that there is no such thing as coincidence, so somehow, through some interesting twist and turn, three of them come together again and live as a family.

    I like very much to read that Datuk May Phng has always been an inpirational figure for both daughters. How nice is it that the children can seek advise from their parents when they need it. Very fortunate.

    I can read that Datuk May is a very stout woman and I admire this quality very much. I like especially the last paragraph in this article that teaches us on independence. We all have only one life and so we got to live it as much as possible without regrets.

  17. HelenaC on Dec 30, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    3 of them are a wonder woman! Gorgeous in Dharma!!

  18. Carmen Lin on Dec 29, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    It’s an inspiring sharing by Datuk May, Li Kim and Li Kheng. I really like how Datuk May’s interprets independence which I quoted “Our situation is always in our hands. An independent person is one who dares to do what he or she wants to do – mistakes and all. Don’t let society’s norms entrap you. When Malaysia received independence in 1957, did you think the leaders were going to regret it? They decided they had to do something for things to change. We will always make mistakes but don’t let mistakes pull you back. If you fall, just get up and go on – that’s independence. It has nothing to do with your social status, money or education. It’s all in the mindset. Independence is how well you take what you have in your life and what you do with it.”

    We should never complain what we don’t have instead use all the tools and things that we have to work out the problem or situation we encountered. Always be humble to learn from others. Most importantly never be jealous of what others have that you don’t instead work hard to get what you want. From the quote above I learnt that we should never be afraid to make mistakes and learn from it. Never complain and whine, just work with it.

    All the pictures are wonderfully taken with the sense of elegance and some superior feeling which suited the title of this article “Women Rule”

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KECHARA FOREST RETREAT PROGRESS UPDATES

Here is the latest news and pictorial updates, as it happens, of our upcoming forest retreat project.

The Kechara Forest Retreat is a unique holistic retreat centre focused on the total wellness of body, mind and spirit. This is a place where families and individuals will find peace, nourishment and inspiration in a natural forest environment. At Kechara Forest Retreat, we are committed to give back to society through instilling the next generation with universal positive values such as kindness and compassion.

For more information, please read here (english), here (chinese), or the official site: retreat.kechara.com.

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  • Pastor Adeline
    Wednesday, Jul 29. 2015 04:27 PM
    This Couple Spent Decades Building Their Own Self-Sustaining Island

    Talk about extreme green.

    Artists Wayne Adams and Catherine King spend their days completely immersed in nature – the Canadian couple lives off-the-grid on a floating sustainable island appropriately named Freedom Cove.

    Read more here: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/art-architecture/i-like-this.html
  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Jul 27. 2015 02:48 PM
    To this supreme being and your Illustrious line of incarnations, I humbly bow, take refuge and request to never be separated from you. Tulku Drakpa Gyeltsen who remains undefeated by rituals, magic, mantras, negative words, fire pujas and suppression from the highest, your time has come. Your lineage and your works will grow and expand into the three planes, ten directions and six realms as pre-ordained by the vows you took in front of Buddha and again Manjunatha Tsongkapa. May we gain your attainments and be protected by you. All beings’ sufferings be released as dedicated by the supreme Shantideva. May Dharma reign supreme and Mara’s forces by quelled.

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/golden-undefeated-lama-of-blessings.html
  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Jul 27. 2015 02:44 PM
    For Christina – Dear Christina, you might want to learn about the Gyenze Dorje Shugden practise http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/prayers-and-sadhanas/dorje-shugden-gyenze-to-increase-life-merits-and-wealth.html for the situation you have mentioned. Should you have further queries, please Ask the Pastors here http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/ask-the-pastors. All the best, Pastor Adeline
  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Jul 27. 2015 02:35 PM
    Vajrayogini and Heruka are one and inseparable; Vajrayogini is the condensed form of Heruka’s practice and Heruka is the extended form of Vajrayogini’s practice. They are represented as male and female Buddhas but actually they are one.

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/great-lamas-masters/herukas-eye.html
  • Christina
    Sunday, Jul 26. 2015 10:18 PM
    I finished my engineering..am born in 28 dec 1992 till now i didnt in a permanent job..always facing failure and no money in my bank account.my neighbours all are making problems with us teasing us.we cant able to survive in that place peacefully…
  • tsemtulku
    Friday, Jul 24. 2015 02:21 AM
    “Dzongsar Khyentse Rinpoche: At the end of the day, education is brainwashing. Brainwashing is inevitable. We human beings love doing that. We are already brainwashed—we don’t know otherwise. So since we are going to brainwash anyway, it’s good to brainwash with good motivation and so that we can be kind, harmonious, and also decent. Becoming decent human beings seems to be not so much in the modern education agenda because, as we all know, modern education seems to be so much about what we can have. Human beings are defined by what we have, like cars and houses. And then modern education is also so much geared towards getting a job. There are very few schools that teach you anything other than what will benefit you in getting a job”
  • xuliang
    Wednesday, Jul 22. 2015 12:06 PM
    Lower life forms do not know about spirituality and yet they live in bliss except at times when they are predated upon. Have we ever thought of this? The lower life forms do not distinguish vices from virtues nor do they get into a process to become ‘good’. They simply are ‘being’ within the totality of reality of which they are not even conscious since they are not self-conscious beings. If that be so, why do humans make such a big deal of ‘spirituality’? This is not to cast aspersions on any analysis in spirituality but a genuine self contemplation on why we, or at least those who perceive a fundamental error in our individual or collective conduct, contemplate about this anomaly & obvious aberration in human conduct? Suppose if we just be with everything without either glorification or condemnation and be true to our being self-conscious, which faculty is given for a purpose in our evolutionary journey and dwell deep into that inquiry without any obvious answers or concepts or conclusions, we would perhaps done justice to our being self-conscious beings. But unfortunately this is not to be since we are literally obsessed with concepts, even of spirituality which does no good and of religion which has done more harm than any good and are literally living in our mental field which by itself cannot take us beyond it, if the true meaning of existence is indeed beyond it or deep within, both being a gateway for a realm that we ‘know’ exists and where we can be what we are; conscious animals in the total existential field in harmony with everything that are.
  • tsemtulku
    Wednesday, Jul 22. 2015 05:01 AM
    What an inspiring and beautiful documentary. One of my favorites: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=55805
  • Pastor Adeline
    Tuesday, Jul 21. 2015 02:58 PM
    “Religion has actually convinced people that there’s an invisible man, living in the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of 10 things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these 10 things, he has a special place full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish where he will send *you* to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever til the end of time…but he loves you.”

    George Carlin

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/science-mysteries/where-do-we-really-come-from.html
  • Pastor Adeline
    Tuesday, Jul 21. 2015 01:26 PM
    Tortoises Kadro and Menlha have been long time residences with the Kechara Organisation, taken care by many volunteers since 2009. While the animal caretakers feed and provide shelter to Kadro and Menlha, these tortoises require kind sponsors to fund their daily needs – mainly food, maintenance and veterinary care.

    Kechara Forest Retreat would love to extend this opportunity for more people to show love to the residents at The Aviary, particularly Kadro and Menlha and we seek your kind sponsorships to keep them happy and loved.

    With just $300 a month, Kadro and Menlha’s meals and veterinary care (if necessary) would be taken care of. We seek a total amount of $4,800 from this fund raising to keep the tortoises happy for the next coming 16 months.

    Please support this good cause here http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/prayers-and-sadhanas/sadhana-prayers.html
  • Pastor Adeline
    Tuesday, Jul 21. 2015 01:24 PM
  • Pastor Adeline
    Tuesday, Jul 21. 2015 01:22 PM
    Tsem Rinpoche: Dear Jacinta, Thank you for sharing with Choong my blog post on Nibiru. I am glad you remember that post.

    Jacinta Goh: Choong, the Planet Nibiru was once mentioned by Rinpoche here http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/science-mysteries/where-do-we-really-come-from.html. Annunaki, believed to be giants at 10 feet tall and there was once I read a sutra where Lord Buddha telling his disciple about the beings that live far from us and they’re a lot bigger than us. We are considered alien and very small to them. Perhaps in future when we are able to space travel, then this finding could be a fact rather than just mere believing.
  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Jul 20. 2015 09:51 AM
    Don’t be a saint and that is fine. Cannot be a saint and that is fine. But at least be human. Being human means to have some civilized respect for others and not just use others for our own selfish purposes. H.E. Tsem Tulku Rinpoche 25th

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/inspiration-worthy-words/dont-be-a-saint.html
  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Jul 20. 2015 09:49 AM
    spent around 6 hours on one blog post today. Glad I finished it. Afterwards had a bad pain in my neck,shoulder from sitting too long. But luckily had someone give me a strong rub down on the neck,shoulder with their elbows and it solved the problem. I have to stretch more when writing, but when I get into it, it’s hard to stop. LOL. Tsem Rinpoche
  • tsemtulku
    Sunday, Jul 19. 2015 05:17 AM
    Dear friends, do promote this video please so we can get the message across: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2ZeQ-44O00

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I must thank my dharma blog team who are great assets to me, Kechara and growth of dharma in this wonderful region. I am honoured and thrilled to work with them. I really am. Maybe I don't say it enough to them, but I am saying it now. I APPRECIATE THESE GUYS VERY MUCH!

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What Am I Writing Now


 

The Unknown

The Known and unknown are both feared,
Known is being comfortable and stagnant,
The unknown may be growth and opportunities,
One shall never know if one fears the unknown more than the known.
Who says the unknown would be worse than the known?
But then again, the unknown is sometimes worse than the known. In the end nothing is known unless we endeavour,
So go pursue all the way with the unknown,
because all unknown with familiarity becomes the known.
~Tsem Rinpoche

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16 hours ago
When we seek pleasure, we always end up in pain eventually. All phenomena is subject to compositional decay and nothing is permanent. Tsem Rinpoche
24 hours ago
Do click on this picture as it really hits home. TR
yesterday
This is such a spectacular photo of Kechara Forest Retreat. Must download and save!
yesterday
A very meaningful picture for me with important people in my life. TR
4 days ago
This one is a real good one. TR
6 days ago
profound and powerful
1 week ago
Peace is what we need.
1 week ago
Some people have the freedom and some people don't. But all deserve it. 
2 weeks ago
We all have a choice of how others view us and where we end up. Have shared my thoughts here: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=70726
2 weeks ago
Welcome!
2 weeks ago
I wonder who did this art piece.
2 weeks ago
Read this chart for your dogs if you love them.
2 weeks ago
This is a fantastic outdoor Tara. Wow. Part 2
2 weeks ago
This is a fantastic outdoor Tara. Wow.
2 weeks ago
Look at this!! Kind hearted and sweet Kirk offers me- home-made banana and coconut milk pancakes!!! What a lovely and kind gesture. I am sure it will be delicious because it came from Kirk's heart. Thank you. Tsem Rinpoche
2 weeks ago
LOOK AT THIS CURRY RECIPE!! This would be loved by many-Yummy: http://mouthwateringvegan.com/2015/07/07/panch-puren-caramel-vegetable-curry/ It is vegan too!!!! We don't have to eat animals at all. Tsem Rinpoche
2 weeks ago
This is good to remember.
2 weeks ago
This is a real good read. Click enlarge and read.
2 weeks ago
Oser, Dharma and Mumu just got their haircuts and cleaned and groomed!!! Look at Mumu's big black eyes all round, alert and wants to play. Mumu is smiling. Dharma does not like is haircut. He looks plucked! Dharma is like, I hate my haircut! And cute Oser is saying SHE DOES NOT LOOK LIKE ZAMKAR!! LOL. Do not call her Zamkar! hehehe
3 weeks ago
Very nice. Our Pastor Chia in the papers. Glad to see this. Tsem Rinpoche
3 weeks ago
“If one does the recitation of the Lama Tsongkhapa guru yoga prayer for even one month using one of the visualizations for great or clear or quick wisdom, one will definitely see development of that wisdom. It is proved by experience. There is no doubt that by doing the Lama Tsongkhapa guru yoga practice one can meet Lama Tsongkhapa’s teachings from life to life. And furthermore, it gives one the opportunity to be born in the pure realm of Lama Tsongkhapa, Tushita, whenever death happens.” - Pabongkha Rinpoche
3 weeks ago
Magadha Sangmo which is the very 1st incarnation of Tsem Rinpoche. She lived during Buddha's time. She was a disciple of Lord Buddha Himself and was very devoted to Buddha. Because of Her devotion, She brought thousands onto the path of Buddha and His teachings.
3 weeks ago
Very Holy White Tara painted by His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche (previous). Wow.
3 weeks ago
The eagle has caught this bird and it's spouse desperately tries to save the spouse. Animals definitely have a sense of friendship and companionship and feel pain. We should never hurt them. Tsem Rinpoche
3 weeks ago
Do not eat chicken or the egg. It doesn't matter which came first.~Tsem Rinpoche Read more: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/category/animals-vegetarianism
3 weeks ago
Did you know there is a horoscope section on tsemrinpoche.com where you can just read and follow the instructions to find the compatibility. Type in your sign and the other person's and you get an answer immediately. Very interesting. Just click here :- http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/horoscopes/the-chinese-zodiac.html
3 weeks ago
Such a honest and sincere comment he posted for everyone to read. Very honest. Nice. I appreciate it.
3 weeks ago
One of the most BEAUTIFUL, captivating and lovely shrines/temples/altars to Buddha I have ever had the merits to gaze upon. The background is so nice. Busy but not distracting. The lighting is a perfect balance to highlight the attainments of Buddha as it's directly emanating behind his head. Buddha statue itself is proportionate. Just so beautiful.
4 weeks ago
Beautiful Dorje Shugden on horse
4 weeks ago
Very good friends. Very nice people. I like them. Tsem Rinpoche 
4 weeks ago
As I lay still, cold, alone and never to wake up again, what have I done with my life to prepare for this 'eternity'? No one will see me nor will I see them again. They would not want to see me again as I turn blue, brown, bloat, smell and decompose into dust.~Tsem Rinpoche
4 weeks ago
Ancient and sacred Manjushri from Reting Monastery
4 weeks ago
Beautiful and holy Manjushri. Very sacred at Reting Monastery. TR
4 weeks ago
Very good.
4 weeks ago
His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche with Kyabje Dromo Geshe Rinpoche
4 weeks ago
2015-Myself having audience with my holy protector. See more pictures: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=68740
4 weeks ago
Panchen Sonam Drakpa, fifteenth Throne-holder of Je Tsongkhapa (Ganden Tripa), and former abbot of Gaden, Sera, and Drepung monasteries (the only monk to ever become abbot of all three).
4 weeks ago
Hardworking and kind Kecharians. Their dedication touches me deeply. Tsem Rinpoche 
4 weeks ago
“The problem is not enjoyment; the problem is attachment.”-Tilopa
4 weeks ago
Golden Undefeated Lama of Blessings: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=69823
4 weeks ago
This is the illustrious Changkya Rolpai Dorje who is the previous incarnation of Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=4297
4 weeks ago
Special painting of Manjushri and here is his short praise to do daily: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=69797
4 weeks ago
See what is a tsatsa and their origins and purpose: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=69630
4 weeks ago
Dear friends, recently I had audience with my dharma protector via the official Panglung Oracle, you can see more here: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=68740
4 weeks ago
Dear Pasang and Wife, I thank you both for your wonderful agate mala gift. It is very kind of you. Much prayers for you both, Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
Very good news!!
1 month ago
Excellent advice
1 month ago
This is super simple yet super powerful and it is the black and white truth. Read this short thought and contemplate deeply. Tsem Rinpoche 
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  • His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche accepts Long Life puja
    2 weeks ago
    His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche accepts Long Life puja
  • Dorje Shugden/Kache Marpo makes offerings to Tsem Rinpoche
    2 weeks ago
    Dorje Shugden/Kache Marpo makes offerings to Tsem Rinpoche
  • My good friend Justin Ripley
    1 month ago
    My good friend Justin Ripley
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    2 months ago
    I requested Choji Lah to do a trusol, rabney and soongdroop for our large DS and Buddha. In this video, he is performing trusol which is ritually 'bathing' the environment and blessing all those who come to visit our Wisdom Hall and Dorje Shugden. Tsem Rinpoche
  • Bigfoot arrives!!!
    2 months ago
    Bigfoot arrives!!!
    Tsem Rinpoche is an avid follower of the paranormal such as bigfoots. For more interesting writings and posts on the subject, please go to http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/category/yeti-bigfoot-sasquatch
  • Mumu Loves Snack!
    2 months ago
    Mumu Loves Snack!
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    2 months ago
    For H.E. Tsem Tulku Rinpoche, a blog post is not just a blog post but Dharma work that generates merits which should be dedicated. Click here to find out what blog post Rinpoche was dedicating the merits for when he recited this prayer: http://bit.ly/1KiXWf9 ~Ani Lobsang Pema
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    2 months ago
    Panchen Lama in Beijing on CCTV - China's official news. The respect and position they give His Holiness Panchen Lama is great.
  • Magical fish tank with Buddha statue
    2 months ago
    Magical fish tank with Buddha statue
  • His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang chants the prayer of Dorje Shugden
    3 months ago
    His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Dorje Chang chants the prayer of Dorje Shugden
  • Gongkar the bird at Kechara Forest Retreat
    3 months ago
    Gongkar the bird at Kechara Forest Retreat
    For much more information, pictures and videos about the rescued birds at the aviary of Kechara Forest Retreat, click here: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/animals-vegetarianism/aviary-kfr.html
  • Watch Dorje Shugden: My Side Of The Story. Full video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxC6uKHM3dY
    3 months ago
    Watch Dorje Shugden: My Side Of The Story. Full video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxC6uKHM3dY
  • A step by step explanation of Dorje Shugden's iconography in 3D!
    3 months ago
    A step by step explanation of Dorje Shugden's iconography in 3D!
  • Another Dharma Talk by Tenzin Palmo
    5 months ago
    Another Dharma Talk by Tenzin Palmo
  • A Dharma Talk by Tenzin Palmo
    5 months ago
    A Dharma Talk by Tenzin Palmo

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CHAT PICTURES

17 hours ago
Some of the photos taken from our Food Bank delivery programme recently. Our provision supplies being delivered to the needy families. 最近所举行的食物银行运送项目照片。食物被运到有需要的家庭。 Justin@KSK
17 hours ago
Food distribution photo taken from last Saturday on the street of KL. Justin@KSK
yesterday
Beautiful decoration in one of the 5 commitment offering . By Puja House 30 July'15
yesterday
Lama Chopa without Tsok sponsored by sponsors for her beloved whom have passed away, to collect vast merits . To have good rebirth . By Puja House, 30 July'15
yesterday
Altar set up for Druchuma Puja. By Puja House, 30 July'15
yesterday
Choo Weng Loong led Dzambala puja ( English) 29/ 7/ 2015 at Kechara House gompa .Time: 8pm - 10pm. Lucy Yap
2 days ago
CK Siah led Dharma Protector Puja (DorjeShugden & Setrap)assisted by Danny Seah at Kechara House gompa. Puja starts at 8pm - 10pm. Lucy Yap
2 days ago
Medicine Buddha puja at Kechara House gompa, led by Pastor Han Nee and was assisted by Elaine Cheah at 8pm - 10pm. Lucy Yap
2 days ago
Trakze puja performed at Puja House today. Sponsors attend to this 3 hours of Puja. By Puja House, 29 July'15
2 days ago
Puja House has a busy day today. Started at 5 a.m in the morning until 7 p.m. many volunteers and staffs work together to do torma. By Puja House, 29 July'15
2 days ago
Puja House did Gyenze Puja early morning today. By Puja House, 29 July'15
2 days ago
Pastor Han Nee assisted by LT Loo led KP Viva Home puja attendees every Tuesday with Setrap/DS and White Tara puja at 8pm - 10.00pm. She delivered a short dharma sharing on both the importance of faith ad well as the inportance of recognizing the suffering of our experiences enabling us to exhaust our karma, during the pre- puja session. Lucy Yap
2 days ago
Today's kitchen crew. From left: Uncle Ng, Elsie, Susan, Elizabeth, Melissa and Igne helping in the kitchen now. 今天的厨房成员: (左)Uncle Ng, Elsie, Susan, Elizabeth, Melissa 以及Igne先在在厨房里帮忙。 Justin@KSK
2 days ago
Early in the morning, Puja House Team did torma flower decoration. By Puja House, 29 July'15
3 days ago
Pastor Han Nee assisted by LT Loo led KP Viva Home puja attendees every Tuesday with Setrap and White Tara puja at 8pm - 10pm. She delivered a short Dharma sharing on both the importance of faith as well as the importance of recognizing the suffering of our experiences enabling us to exhuast our karma, during the pre - puja session. Lucy Yap
3 days ago
Weekly White Tara puja on Tuesday at Kechara House was led by Pastor KH Ng and assisted by Pastor Gim Lee at 8pm - 10pm. dedicated to the long life ,stable health and fulfilment of our beloved and precious Guru, H.E.Tsem Rinpoche 's Dharma work guiding sentient beings from all over the world. May all beings be free from the sufferings of samsara. http://www.kechara.com Lucy Yap.
3 days ago
A new home for Uncle Lem. Uncle Lem was referred to Pusat Kebajikan Rumah Warga Emas Chan today for permanent stay. He can no longer able to afford his rental cost after failing to find a job. Having no where else to go, we helped him to move into the shelter home. Otherwise he will be sleeping on the street. We wish Uncle Lem all the best in his future undertakings. Justin@KSK
3 days ago
Banquet staff from The Westin Kuala Lumpur Hotel served from our soup kitchen today. We also distributed nice bakery items kindly sponsored by TK Bakery. 来自The Westin Kuala Lumpur酒店成员今天在香积厨分发食物。我们也送出由唐记所赞助的美味面包。Justin@KSK
3 days ago
A client walked in today with a shabby pair of slippers. We gave him a new Fipper donated slipper and the client was very happy. From now he won't have to worry of slipping on the wet floor while working in the wet market. 有一位客户今天穿着一双破旧拖鞋来到香积厨。我们送他一对新的Fipper拖鞋。客户感到十分高兴。在吧杀理做工的他从今天开始不必再怕滑道了。 Justin@KSK
3 days ago
Team making torma for Trakze and Gyenze Puja. By Puja House, 28 July'15
3 days ago
The torma flower are make in ice water to prevent the flower melt. Because the torma flowers are make from butter. By Puja House, 28 July'15
3 days ago
Before making torma,the major ingredient- oats; have to grind into powder. By Puja House, 28 July'15
3 days ago
Stay focus, calm, patient are required during torma Making. Even a simple act like coloring the torma need full concentration. Because this are offering to Buddha on behalf of sponsor. By Puja House, 28 July'15
3 days ago
Puja House team did torma flowers today. These flowers are make from butter. We learned from Monastery on the traditional of making Torma flower, which normally did in Tibet.By Puja House 28 July'15
4 days ago
We welcomed 17 members from Lions Club George Town Mutiara to our kitchen. Pastor Patsy

 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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