2nd wealthiest man’s son is a monk

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Dear friends,

Recently, a student of mine sent me an interesting e-mail regarding one of the wealthiest person in Malaysia. It was surprising but news to rejoice at!! It was regarding Tan Sri Ananda Krishnan’s son…

Tan Sri Ananda Krishnan is the second wealthiest man in South-East Asia and ranked 89th wealthiest man in the world. As a Malaysian businessman, he has an estimated net worth of US$7.6 Billion.

Currently, Tan Sri has multiple business interests including those within the media (Astro), satellite (MEASAT) and telecommunications (Maxis) industry to name a few. Although Tan Sri is one of wealthiest person in the world, he is known for being very low profile. As a father of 3 children, most of us may imagine them to be 3 terribly spoilt children… on the contrary, his only son is a monk.

It is written in the news article below that when Tan Sri invited his son for a meal, his son rejected his father politely. He said that he is now a monk and like other monks, he has to beg for his food. Tan Sri’s son is now living in a monastery within a forest in Northern Thailand. He now depends on other people’s generosity to sustain himself. Can you believe it… Why would the son of an immensely wealthy family become a monk? For very good reasons of course.

In many other reports, they also state that Tan Sri Ananda Krishnan himself is a devout Buddhist. How beautiful… Tan Sri is also popularly known as a great philanthropist, especially in the field of education. So much merits for Tan Sri to have such son now ordained as Ajahn Siripanno.

I am so excited to read that Mr Ananda has a son who has decided to devote his life to the Three Jewels. Doing so is not only great blessings for himself but also for his father and family. I rejoice and pray that Mr Ananda and his family will always be blessed be the three jewels. Just like when Siddhartha Gautama left his palace and riches to seek enlightenment.

Tsem Rinpoche


Please see Ajahn Siripanno’s beautiful dharma talk here:  http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=29547


Tan Sri’s son now ordained as Buddhist Monk Ajahn Siripanno.



The Monk who Flew in a Jet

By business bhutan | 01 January 2011 |

In 2008, as my friend and I sat down in the restaurant to eat our dinner, we saw a man in the hotel lobby. Immediately, we assumed that he was alone so decided to invite him for dinner.

“I don’t eat dinner,” the elderly man declined the offer, “I am on my way to the gym.”

The next morning, I met him in the hotel lobby and noticed that he was wearing the same clothes.

“Excuse me,” he said politely and then looking at the young monk sitting next to me, said affectionately, “Son, it is time for us to go home.” The son obediently picked up his small cloth bag from the floor and followed his father.

Earlier, curious to see a monk in the Uma hotel in Paro, I had started a conversation with him.

“Yesterday was my father’s 70th birthday and he wanted me to spend it with him in a special place,” the monk informed me. The monk could have been in his early thirties.  He had short hair and was wearing saffron robes and had a pair of slippers on. “What a beautiful country you have? They had flown into Paro in their own jet.

So who are these people?  The elderly man is Ananda Krishnan and the monk his only son.

Krishnan is the second richest man in Malaysia. According to Forbes he is worth 7.6 Billion dollars. The Tamil Malaysian of Sri Lankan Tamil origin is a self made man and is a notable philanthropist but leads a low profile life. He and his son are both Buddhists.

Few years ago, the billionaire lost his son. He started to look for him and his search stopped in a Buddhist monastery in north Thailand.  Shocked to see his son in saffron robes, short hair with a begging bowl in his hand the father invites his son for a meal.

“I am sorry; I cannot accept your invitation.”  Like all my fellow monks, I have to beg for my food.” Krishnan reply made headlines, “With all my wealth I cannot even afford to feed my own son.”

The son still lives in the monastery in the forest of Thailand and like all the monks in the monastery depends on other people’s generosity for his sustenance.

Hearing stories like these one wonders if we are giving up everything that we already possess to acquire things that we really don’t need.

This story clearly demonstrates that human contentment and well being in real terms requires us to go beyond physical, mental, and emotional dimension. Krishnan’s son clearly shows that detachment could be a greater wealth and devotion a bigger asset in our lives.

(Extracted from: Business Bhutan, “The Monk who Flew in a Jet”, http://www.businessbhutan.bt/?p=3954, 1-01-2011)



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  1. Chandrup Kaushal on Mar 16, 2015 at 7:12 am

    wonderful very very inspiring story.

  2. dorji wangmo on Dec 17, 2014 at 12:24 pm

    Greeting from http://www.namotoursandtreks.com, kingdom of Bhutan.
    New year soon to celebrate and may 2015 bring happiness,prosperity and peace in the world. Tashi Delek.

  3. mahesh Raju on Sep 7, 2014 at 3:28 am

    when you will take over or be with your father business. Like other billionaire son , their kids start to take over father business but you declining. Hope you decide something best for this. As a tamil Native , hence malaysian, i always notice his growth.

  4. Manikumar on Nov 5, 2013 at 10:52 am

    Its inspire me to leave everything behind & follow the path of love & true happiness

  5. shelray sam on Jul 26, 2013 at 12:29 pm

    It is rare an inspiring that he is not a spill brate, like many rich people. Sadhu, sadhu, sadhu to the brave, compassion, and generous heart.

  6. Prabin Shrestha on May 2, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    First of all, thank you for this interesting story.
    But I think, you forgot to quote the name of the son. Only father’s name is quoted as richest business man. And also, as the son is now Monk, he should be recognized by his own name, not by his father.
    Thank you.

  7. edward ooi on Apr 25, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    Dear Rinpoche, I didn’t know that Tan Sri is the wealthiest man at Malaysia and Ananda Krishan is the second. And also I did not expect that Rinpoche would have the chance to see Ananda Krishan and his son because they would be at home being protected or going to overseas.

  8. Aida jamal on Apr 24, 2013 at 12:40 am

    I am lost for words…. Ajahn siripanno is a fantastic human being… His talk was so inspirational.. He has got so much wisdom at such a young age… Would love to meet him one day… May he be blessed wt all the wisdom!

  9. June Tang (KHJB) on Nov 19, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this inspiring story.Ajahn Siripanno gave up everything to be a monk show that he value the dharma very much.I am rejoice and wish Ajahn Sriripanno good health ,long live and able to spread dharma to benefit more and more peoples !!

  10. kt tony on Nov 19, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    I can’t believe this story but just like to say god is great.

  11. Clara Tang on Oct 30, 2012 at 5:17 am

    Dear Rinpoche, I have a question, not relevant to this posted subject, but why do most of us leave behind all we have learn in our past lives and start afresh again..unless one is very attained or has some reminiscence, we usually have absolutely no recollection of what we have learn or experience. Or it is meant to be, so that we could relearn and do more homework.. Humbly yours..

  12. wendy on Sep 12, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    i had the opportunity to attend one of Ajahn Siripanno’s talks in BUBS a couple of years ago. Sitting behind me, right at the back of the hall was his father.
    it was an inspiring talk as Ajahn Siripanno went on to say how he missed the opportunity to serve one of the greatest forest monk of all – Ajahn Chah.

  13. Lim KH (JB) on Jul 18, 2012 at 2:59 am

    Money is not everything but without money we cant do anything. After reading this article i suddenly remember the joke when i volunteer at JB KP roadshow.

    There is a auntie come to buy incense, so she ask me which one better. I suggest to her the incense for harmony and wealth then she buy both. After paid she ask me the incense really can bring wealth after burn? So i start to chatting with her that ” auntie may i know if ur income is RM 2K 10 years ago is that enough?” then auntie reply ” sure enough, that income very big”, after that i ask her again ” if now ur income is RM 20K per month is that enough?” auntie reply that ” where got enough now so many things need money…”

    At last i explain to auntie that now ur income increase to RM 20K per month really still no enough we got too much attachment than 10 years ago. So the most important things is our inner wealth otherwise even RM 200K per month also not enough. The auntie agree to me and say ” ya u are rite, actually many things that is no need if according previous 10 years life style”.

    Hopefully the auntie can increase her family inner wealth after burn the incense.

  14. HARIDAS A/L KERESANIN on Jul 9, 2012 at 10:30 am

    Good mning Sir Ananda krishna….i need help from u…i wan become a sucess busimen like u sir in gas n oil…could’t u help me sir…i dont wan money…my age still 32 yrs….pls help me…wan be success in my life n help diable people…pls sir…

    • Wan Wai Meng on Jul 9, 2012 at 12:13 pm

      Dear Haridas,
      I am not Mr Ananda Krishna but we have many spiritual methods for people to achieve their goals. For removal of obstacles we have Setrap and to develop more business opportunities we have Lord Dzambala pujas and we have a lot of work you can contribute to to create positive energy for what you need to do. Would you like to visit our center my handphone is 012 215 0968

      • dorji wangmo on Dec 17, 2014 at 12:50 pm

        Greeting from http://www.namotoursandtreks.com
        is there any chance we can visit Rinpoche with a small group for a blessing? If so where would be the venue and when and for how long would Rinpoche avaiable? Thanks

  15. K.Muthoovaloo on Jul 2, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    I m very and bless to see yr sons is near to god. You can be the father but your have a bless son. God Bless You

  16. Julia Tan on Jul 2, 2012 at 1:39 am

    Ajahn Siripanno makes me remember about Buddha. Ajahn Siripanno have all the money and power that he wants but chose to lead an ordained life in search for enlightenment. I have a lot of respect for Ajahn because he chosed to be in Dharma although he has all the power and money in the region. He would have let the riches, fame  and all other attachment to delude his mind and lead a normal life. I cannot imagine what his life will be if he didn’t pursue Dharma despite his truly blessed form of rebirth. His letting go of himself made me feel he is all but one like Buddha. May Ajahn Siripanno live long and be able to spread Dharma to a lot of people.

  17. Grace (KSJC) on Jun 28, 2012 at 1:46 am

    while we still pursuing our personal goal & materiality, some have choose to let go the attachment and pursuing sprituality practice.this is really amazing, how many of us can let go the wealth and seeking enlightenment??Krishnan’s son have prove us nothing is impossible …the value of Dharma is precious than wordly things…

  18. Sheryl KH (JB) on Jun 27, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    What an amazing story is this? Amazing for the achievement that Tan Sri has made for himself and the very different path that his son has chosen to take.

    Being the only son, Ajahn Siripanno can easily take over his father businesses can they will be more than sufficient for him for anything that he can dream of. But yet, I guess it is the strong buddhism imprints within him that overide materialism.

    Yet another inspiring true story.

  19. Yoke Fui on Jun 14, 2012 at 11:16 am

    Ajahn Siripanno is like the modern day Prince Sidharta. Even though born in riches and luxuries he is not fooled by these transient happiness.

    I hope Tan Sri Krishnan can see the wisdom of his son’s decision and support his son’s noble pursuit and the spread of dharma with his wealth.

  20. Wan Wai Meng on May 24, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    There are still beings with the merits who can see through that all the material we have cannot give us security or happiness. He left the ‘palaces’ to search for the truth, what courage and determination to look for the truth. Inspired.

  21. freon on May 16, 2012 at 9:39 am

    Ajahn Siripanno story reminded me about Lama Atisha or Shakyamuni. They born with Golden spoon but they do not attracted to worldly concerned. Its not easy to be a monk or nun, especially since young everything is well prepare to a person e,g: having maids, luxury food, entertainment etc. To be a forest monk; no maid, no nice food, no nice comfort big bed. Even to an ordinary people , these are not easy to achieve.

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  24. lewkwanleng on Apr 23, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    A Chinese newspaper “Kwong Wah Yit Poh” featured this story today: http://www.kwongwah.com.my/news/2012/04/22/162.html

  25. Margaretlee on Mar 29, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    This is truely inspiring and I will definitely FB it and share with all my friends.

    Obviously Ajahn has a strong imprint to monastic life, his decision to become renounced and the fact that his father Tan Sri supported such decision showed deep respect and understanding for each other.

    It is simply beautiful…..

  26. Hew Li Lyn on Mar 29, 2012 at 2:17 pm

    It would be a trememdous honour if one or any of your children decides to join the monastery to become a monk. The merits collected would indeed be wonderful for the parents. I have children myself and if any of them want to become a monk or devote their lives to Dharma, they will definitely have my support.
    This article on Ananda Krishnan and his son is so inspiring and I as a parent could only wish for such a blessing.

  27. Paris on Mar 29, 2012 at 12:40 am

    This is such a beautiful sharing. I especially love that quote “With all my wealth I cannot even afford to feed my own son” – such a poignant statement, which proves as ever that money cannot buy you the most important things in life. Only our real true spiritual practice can.

    There is a kind of beautiful irony though, in what Tan Sri says in this quote. He can’t feed his son, but it is actually because of a good reason – because his son is so devout in his practice, dedicated to his vows and on the path of true non-attachment. There are so many other people out there in the world who have all the riches they could imagine but still cannot really spend or enjoy it. Either they become too miserly and cannot bear to spend any of it. Or they use their money to create on more and more difficulties for themselves.

    I guess Tan Sri’s son really proves to us that good old adage that less really is more.

  28. Sharon Saw on Mar 28, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    I love this article as there is so much to reflect on. So many Malaysians think that if their son or daughter becomes ordained as a monk/nun, it is a waste of their lives. I know of a very wealthy lady who has since passed away. She had two daughters, one of who became a nun. When the daughter became a nun, it was seen throughout the community as such a pity for the mother.

    Yet here is Tan Sri Ananda Krishnan, supporting his son’s wish to be a monk. Perhaps it is because Tan Sri has Sri Lankan roots, which may be more open to spirituality. Tan Sri has accumulated great financial wealth and he is also giving back by philanthropic deeds. I am happy to learn that he is replenishing his good karma!

    I also think that this story is reminiscent of the historical Buddha’s story – how Prince Siddharta Gautama left the riches of his palace in search of Enlightenment. Tsem Rinpoche also gave up a comfortable life for an austere life at Gaden Monastery. When Rinpoche was so poor in India and had appealed to Rinpoche’s adoptive parents, the Bugayeffs for help, they had offered Rinpoche a materially comfortable life if Rinpoche were to abandon his monkhood. Yet Rinpoche would much rather have all the physical sufferings of the monastery than the empty comfort of a secular life.

    I rejoice for Tan Sri Ananda and his only son, Ajahn Siripanno. Their openness to the Dharma is their true wealth which nobody can take away.

    Thank you again, Rinpoche.. i will share this article as i think it will inspire many.

  29. Uncle Eddie on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Joining the monastry is a direct method to achieve realization of the essence of Buddha’s teachings and therefore is a very special and profound method. It is firstly, to cut the self-grasping ego which is the root cause of samsara. Cutting “self-grasping” is very meaningful, important and essential requirement, which can easily make one fall for a treacherous wrong view in the outside world. Secondly, it is also to cut all afflictive emotions and conceptual thoughts, said to be the greatest ego pride which causes samsaric sufferings and can obstruct one from achieving reality and direct wisdom. Through the profound practices, taught in the monastry to remove all afflictive emotions of Ignorance, Aversion, Attachment, Pride and Jealousy, all our problems could be removed. Ethical discipline in overcoming all unwholesome deeds, avoiding of negative actions to accumulate positive potentials can more easily be achieved and maintained in a monastry than inthe outside unwholesome world! So Tan Sri Ananda’s son, ordained as Ajahn Siripano is making the right choice, where no amount of wealth can equate. We greatly rejoice for him and pray for blessings from the triple Gems to be bestowed on Tan Sri Ananda’s family.

  30. Koh Hee Peng on Mar 28, 2012 at 2:37 am

    The last 2 paragraphs truly represent the teachings that one should realise after reading the articles above.

    “Hearing stories like these one wonders if we are giving up everything that we already possess to acquire things that we really don’t need.”

    “This story clearly demonstrates that human contentment and well being in real terms requires us to go beyond physical, mental, and emotional dimension. Krishnan’s son clearly shows that detachment could be a greater wealth and devotion a bigger asset in our lives.”

    Dear Rinpoche, thank you for sharing such an amazing article. Thank you.

  31. Li Kim on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:53 am

    This article only tells us the truth about life and wealth… Weatlh, even in abundance, does not bring us the happiness and peace we are all in pursuit of. The happiness and peace we all want is indeed priceless and has no inheritance.

    Thank you Rinpoche of this very amazing and inspiring post.

  32. patsy on Mar 28, 2012 at 12:10 am

    This is so inspiring. Ajahn Siripanno gave up everything shows how much he values the dharma. Time for us to contemplate on why we are so attached to our little worldly possessions when the second wealthiest man’s son can give up everything to be a monk.

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  34. DR on Mar 27, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    If you look at this from another point of view, he could remain status quo in the Ananda Krishnan ‘Palace’, inherit the wealth and use it for propagation of dharma. Rinpoche told us before that to be born into a wealthy of family can be good karma or bad karma, depending on what you do with your wealth and status. But he chose to renounce, like Shakyamuni Buddha did 2,600 years ago. Very inspiring as it is even harder at such degenerate times with so many distractions.

  35. tenzin llhamo on Mar 27, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    I have read about this story in the newspapers quite some time ago. Imagine if the father didn’t have Dharma knowledge. Such an inspiration to many. To be able to give up everything for the 3 Jewels is not something many of us can do.

  36. nicholas on Mar 27, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Truly happen in Malaysia. Interesting!
    A lot of people must have thought that why he choose this path? Wasting the opportunity to inherit his father’s wealth!
    But actually he already gains the wealth of all, the spiritual wealth that make him free from all the delusion and attachment. At the same time bringing great blessing to the family.

    Ajahn Siripanno really inspiring. This is a great true story that give people another view of spirituality.

  37. William on Mar 27, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    This is the first time i hear this story and knowing that Tan Sri’s son is a monk. VEry inspiring that this young man can follow his heart and not be distracted by the wealth he has. He has found true happiness and that he is wealthy in all ways without the money. A great story to contemplate on why are we so attached to our attachments when someone can let go of his vast wealth for a simple life!

  38. skyong on Mar 27, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    Wow incredible.. I know Ananda Krishnan is one of Malaysia most wealthiest man but never knew that he has a son and his son is a monk. There is more him than meets the eye.

  39. ng on Mar 27, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Rejoice ! Rejoice ! May all sangha continue to bless and inspire us. May all sangha quickly attain enlightenment and come back to guide us. May buddhadharma never degenerate .

  40. So Kin Hoe on Mar 26, 2012 at 10:19 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this great story of Ajahn Siripanno. This real story is happening in our current degenerate life. It really gives me the true inspiration to do more in Dharma no matter we come from rich or poor family background.

  41. Elena on Mar 26, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    Wow, his son gave up inheriting 7.6 billion to become a monk…that’s how much he values the Dharma, to give all that up willingly. How much less are WE asked to give up, and how much less do we find difficult to give up? It really makes you think and inspires you.

  42. justin cheah on Mar 26, 2012 at 2:45 pm

    Just like Buddha Shakyamuni, he ‘left’ wealth, power and all sorts of other enjoyment behind. Ajahn Siripano is really an inspiring son! He has the fortune to potentially inheritting the mass fortunes from his father and yet he pursued most people would not realise which is internal happiness. His wisdom must be very high and Tan Sri Ananda Krishnan would be blessed even further for having such a filial child creating more merits for his father. True blessing!

  43. Li Kheng on Mar 26, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    This acts as such a good story for us to reflect on our own lives. For a person who is destined to inherit 7.6 billion dollars, Ajahn Siripanno gave it up to be a part of the sangha community. While most of us, who will unlikely become millionaires in this lifetime, spend all our energy and time pursuing $$$. In fact, many of us jeopardized relationships in pursuit of outer wealth.

    I do not believe that it is meant fo us to all become monks and nuns after reading this post. However, we can certainly think about 1) the deeper motivation for us to persevere in this dog-eat-dog race and 2) come up with ideas on how we can share some of our “riches” in a manner that benefits others.

    This story is a good opportunity for us to “stop, look, choose and go again”. Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this inspiring story and the chance for us to reflect on our race for money.

  44. Victor Phang on Mar 26, 2012 at 1:43 pm

    I just shared this story with Siong Woan and Karen 2 days ago when we were coming back to KL from Hunger Awareness Week Event at University of Nottingham, Semenyih. Now the complete story is posted here. So fast and efficient.. hehe :)
    As a dharma student, definitely I rejoice for Tan Sri’s family. This is not easy to let go his extra comfortable life, but his mind is so strong and stable!
    Thank you for sharing, Rinpoche. Take good care _/\_

  45. Valentina Suhendra on Mar 26, 2012 at 7:54 am

    My dear Lama

    It’s amazing. With all his wealth, he knows what is the priority in life and actually execute it. Most of us, including me, are afraid to live in poverty and to lose what little that we have.

    For the son of the second wealthiest man in Malaysia to be a monk is very inspiring.


  46. ECheah on Mar 26, 2012 at 1:35 am

    I have a friend who used to work in Maxis. She used to tell lots of gossip about her previous co. and also told me in utter dismay that her then boss’ son had “run away to Thailand to become a monk”. My friend is of another faith. She said he completely wasted his life away while he had all the golden opportunities laid out for him ready for him to grab, but tsk tsk tsk what a disappointment. It was, after all her own view, the world view. Who can blame her when we’ve been socially conditioned to think like that all our lives? I didn’t know then whether it was true or not. That it is true after all confirms that all the money and power in the world may not be the answer to true happiness. That Tan Sri’s son knows that and has placed his life firmly towards what matters most is just so beautiful.

  47. Sofi on Mar 26, 2012 at 12:41 am

    Its an amazing and really hard act to follow in these degenerate times. Fancy giving up such life of comfort for the simple and dependant on others for food. Just as Rinpoche had compared, like Buddha Shakyamuni. But having said that, I rejoice the most for Tan Sri Ananda as he had such great acceptance of his son’s decision. It takes such courage and love to give up his son (in the worldly sense), especially where Asians usually view their sons as their “heirs”. Absolutely beautiful!

  48. Grace Leong on Mar 25, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    Wow ! It’s a great story . Very inspiring !! To have the potential to inherit so much wealth being the only son and yet all he prefers, is to be a simple monk to devote to the 3Jewels !! Most amazing !!

  49. nsa on Mar 25, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    I’m really happy for Tan Sri Ananda Krishnan and his family. In Myanmar, people like to have sons because as males, they would have the chance to become monks. All boys will be sent to the monastery to become a monk for as long as they want. Some become monks, some do not. If a son becomes a fully ordained monk, the whole family would rejoice. How different the mentality is compared to countries without mass Buddhist consciousness! Perhaps Ajahn Siripanno will be the catalyst to breakdown the skewed perception of monks and monastic life.

  50. Irene on Mar 25, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    I heard before of Ananda Krishnan only son is a Buddhist monk and that Ananda himself is very low profile. Someone saw him driving in a white proton saga to the Bricksfield Vihara with his son, Ajahn Siripanno. Ajahn Siripanno is inspiring.

  51. lewkwanleng on Mar 25, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    It is indeed very inspiring to hear stories like this. Imagine I only have so little belongings yet I am so attached to them. He has the potential to inherit all the wealth from the father, yet he can just give them up so easily.

    Rinpoche always said, if we have knowledge, we will not be attached to our material things. I must say his knowledge about the Dharma must be very strong, and that he must have studied a lot, either in this life or previous lives.


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    In order to observe the movement of our own mind and heart, of our whole being, we must have a free mind. Not a mind that agrees, taking sides, disputing and disagrees in an argument over mere words, but rather, following with an intention to understand – a very difficult thing to do because most of us don’t know how to look at or listen to our own being anymore than we know how to look at the beauty of a river or listen to the breeze among the trees.
  • Lucy Yap
    Friday, Nov 27. 2015 10:00 AM
    Magnificent and Glorious Buddha Goddess Singdongma the Lion Faced lady who dispells all fear from the ten directions for those who invoke upon her fercocious and volcanic like power. Praise to this wrathful lady that burns all gnosis and projections! Remover of all that harms and obstructs and trampled under her feet. Tsem Rinpoche- To learn more about Singdongma: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=31904
  • Tsem Rinpoche
    Friday, Nov 27. 2015 02:04 AM
    This is beautiful and with the meditating monk: http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/gingko-tree-leaves
  • Lucy Yap
    Friday, Nov 27. 2015 12:33 AM
    Advice from someone with unlimited wisdom: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=82301
  • Lucy Yap
    Friday, Nov 27. 2015 12:05 AM
    The offering of the mandala is one of the four main preliminary practices in Vajrayana Buddhism. This is one of the fastest ways to accumulate vast amounts of merit to sustain and advance in our spiritual practice in order to gain realisations.
    In this dharma talk, Pastor David Lai will explain the correct way of engaging in the Mandala Offering of the 37 Heaps, the significance of each offering and the accompanying visualisations. He will also be talking about various aspects of correct Dharma attitude and how to cultivate this type of mind. Please RSVP your attendance via [email protected] or +603 7803 3908 by 3 December 2015. Seating is limited and availability is on a first come first serve basis. Read more https://www.facebook.com/events/909736199116357/
  • Jill Yam
    Thursday, Nov 26. 2015 10:48 PM
    Thursday, Nov 26. 2015 07:29 PM
    Sir in our home problems does not exit if one exits then another appears and for those problems my mom,my sister.my father and me we just cannot bear all this any more.I have a strong feeling that our neighbour who are our relatives but for some reasons we dont want to keep thoes evil persons as our relatives.They stay just close to us just a wall in between us and i think they do such black magic,they are very cruel type of family very cruel they i have an instinct that they throw some thing in our roof at night some sounds come that someone have thrown something like sometimes it sounds like stons small ones,some times heavy cloth wrapped something….i dont know and after that my parents fight so much louder and angrier….it effects more on my father.And those people in their house no one stays longer they have bought 4 or 3 dogs,rabbits,birds but no one live all died…some they killed by theirself and some due to not taken care of.My grand ma also died in their house,my uncle to may be due to ilness i dont know.Please help me give me an immediate solution please every year i have to face all this now no more.Because of this sometimes i feel like killing my self then i think no i wont i’ll think of solution instead of running from it.Please help me sir.I am waiting.
  • xuliang
    Thursday, Nov 26. 2015 02:12 PM
    The religious urge springs from man’s attempts to rationalize his inability to control his own destiny and his apparent subjection to the wayward fancies of an unseen power. Thus to ascribe the events and circumstances of life to an outside agency not only relieves him of much of his responsibility for his actions but explain away some of his baffling limitations. Most important still, it provides him with a conceptual focus around which his rationalizing and speculations may be centred and to which all the phenomena of the universe may more or less satisfactorily related in an attempt to see himself as part of an ordered scheme of things. Because of this overmastering tendency in man gods have been created in accordance with all the different paths of evolution followed by countless races and nations of the world. Ideas of deity cannot but arise out of the circumstances by which mankind is surrounded, for the idea of a thing must always precede the conviction of its existence, and such an idea or concept can only be built up of the assimilated impressions and experiences stored in the mental reservoir. As many conceptions as there are, so many gods and goddesses are there.
  • xuliang
    Thursday, Nov 26. 2015 01:49 PM
    To the average mind the word “religion” connotes the idea of pietistic practices which, in order to be of benefit, should be attended by a certain amount of personal inconvenience and occasional moral discomfiture. To some others religion appears as a spare-time occupation favoured by old ladies and all those who, for a variety of reasons, have fallen back in the scramble to keep abreast of worldly affairs. Comparatively few seem to regard religion as a matter of paramount importance which should take first place in the affairs of man, for it is a way of life; it is more – it is life itself and must not be confused with a mere habit of ceremonial observance which may be taken up or laid aside in subjection to a programme of social engagements.
  • Lucy Yap
    Thursday, Nov 26. 2015 11:12 AM
    Kechara Soup Kitchen (KSK) is inspired by His Eminence Tsem Rinpoche, the Spiritual Guide of the Kechara organisation. As a young child, Tsem Rinpoche was often hungry and after years of physical and emotional abuse, he ran away from home when he was 15 years old. Since this experience, Rinpoche has always donated food to the poor and encouraged others to do the same. In 2006, a group of Rinpoche’s students began to distribute food in the centre of Kuala Lumpur. Being mindful and respectful of others’ beliefs, KSK is strictly non-religious and does not discriminate in terms of race or culture. For this reason, our food is always vegetarian. By volunteering your time or sponsoring our activities, you are helping us to bring hope and comfort to countless people. Your compassion and generosity means that one more person will go to bed tonight with a full stomach and a mind that is at peace. http://www.kechara.com/soup-kitchen/get-involved/get-involved/
  • Lucy Yap
    Thursday, Nov 26. 2015 11:04 AM
    Would you be able to live here for 30 years: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=82534
  • Lucy Yap
    Thursday, Nov 26. 2015 11:03 AM
    Informational talk on Wealth Vases, they contain the essence and the wealth generative power of the four elements, the five transformative energies. This is done in accordance to the tantric tradition of Lord Dzambala.

    They can be kept by those who are religiously or non-religiously inclined persons of any denomination in their homes, offices, factories and in general places that require peace, harmony, growth, and wealth. ~admin https://www.facebook.com/tsemtulku?fref=ts
  • Cynthia Ng
    Thursday, Nov 26. 2015 01:13 AM
    All animals avoid pain and gravitates toward comfort, which is a clear indication that they have the inherent ability to distinguish between happiness and suffering. Even if we do not believe in the laws of karma, no being deserves to be tortured or to suffer in any way. 【Kid Finds Chicken Organ in KFC Meal http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/current-affairs/kid-finds-chicken-organ-in-kfc-meal.html】
  • Jill Yam
    Thursday, Nov 26. 2015 12:22 AM
    Involve in Kechata Soup Kitchen in their weekly Saturday night rounds around Kuala Lumpur
    Fight poverty with one meal at a time

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I must thank my dharma blog team who are great assets to me, Kechara and growth of dharma in this wonderful region. I am honoured and thrilled to work with them. I really am. Maybe I don't say it enough to them, but I am saying it now. I APPRECIATE THESE GUYS VERY MUCH!

Tsem Rinpoche

What Am I Writing Now


The Unknown

The Known and unknown are both feared,
Known is being comfortable and stagnant,
The unknown may be growth and opportunities,
One shall never know if one fears the unknown more than the known.
Who says the unknown would be worse than the known?
But then again, the unknown is sometimes worse than the known. In the end nothing is known unless we endeavour,
So go pursue all the way with the unknown,
because all unknown with familiarity becomes the known.
~Tsem Rinpoche

Photos On The Go

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2 weeks ago
Please see the WONDERFUL NEW PHOTOS taken just this morning (November 13, 2015) here: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=81688 (Be sure to scroll to the bottom until part 2 to see the pictures)
2 weeks ago
We at Kechara Forest Retreat had the honor to have a visit from Yang Dipertua Mohammad Shahid bin Ismail who is the Head of the Bentong Municipal Council. We thank him for taking the time as he was very busy. Thank you very much. Tsem Rinpoche
2 weeks ago
Pastor David giving a well received talk on the practice of Black Manjushri
2 weeks ago
Found a green patch of land to spend with friends...
2 weeks ago
Nice to see our fellow Modern Buddhist Fellowship members engaged in Dharma.
2 weeks ago
Manjushri-ghosha, Kumara (English: Youthful Prince, Melodious Voice)
2 weeks ago
Wonderful certificates of our Kechara pastors..meaningful and touching.
2 weeks ago
This office table has something interesting on it.
2 weeks ago
Powerfully true
2 weeks ago
To have kind and caring people in our lives is a blessing
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
I really wanted to share this incredible picture of the Tibetologist Alexandra David-Neel outside of her retreat cave in Tibet. She's one of the first non-Tibetans who penetrated Tibet to engage in the practice of Tibetan Buddhism. She really practiced and even wrote books on Buddhism and Tibet which are still available now. ~Tsem Rinpoche
3 weeks ago
A photo taken by Pastor Shin of Tsem Rinpoche's Dorje Shugden traditional mask. This is on Tsem Rinpoche's shrine. Very nice photo.
3 weeks ago
At Chin Swee Temple with my long time friend Dato' Wira Eric.
3 weeks ago
Amogha-pasa Avalokitesvara
3 weeks ago
I love small quaint towns in Japan. No matter how rural or small any village is in Japan, it is still kept very clean and asthetic matching nature. 
3 weeks ago
Left to right: Gekula (disciplinarian), Abbot Geshe Konchok Tsering, Tsem Rinpoche, H.E. Kensur Jampa Yeshe Rinpoche-We are inviting Kensur Rinpoche for tenshug. Tenshug is grand puja to request Kensur Rinpoche to live long. This is in Gaden and we are inviting him to the prayer hall to perform the tenshug. Tsem Rinpoche is the requester and sponsor.
3 weeks ago
This is a nice picture
3 weeks ago
Kyabje Lati Rinpoche and Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen
4 weeks ago
Kyabje Lati Rinpoche and Kari Kensur Rinpoche of Gaden Shartse Monastery
4 weeks ago
Kyabje Zemey Rinpoche, H.H. Zong Rinpoche & Kyabje Lati Rinpoche
4 weeks ago
Kyabje Lati Rinpoche makes offerings to H.H. Trijang Rinpoche
4 weeks ago
Kyabje Lati Rinpoche makes offering to their Holinesses Kyabje Ling and Trijang Rinpoches
4 weeks ago
Lady Buddha Janguli who protects from snakes and venom poisoning.
4 weeks ago
If there is a blind man walking towards a well and he can fall in, whose fault is it if he falls in? This can be related back to those in dharma should act to guide others by example otherwise you let everyone fall into the well. If they do fall in samsara's well, whose fault is it? Have the courage, integrity and fortitude to practice dharma and bring dharma to others to help them.~ Tsem Rinpoche
4 weeks ago
This group in Kechara Forest Retreat completed a Singdongma retreat on October 28, 2015.
1 month ago
Magnificent and Glorious Buddha Goddess Singdongma the Lion Faced lady who dispells all fear from the ten directions for those who invoke upon her fercocious and volcanic like power. Praise to this wrathful lady that burns all gnosis and projections! Remover of all that harms and obstructs and trampled under her feet. Tsem Rinpoche--To learn more about Singdongma: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=31904
1 month ago
Xiaqiong Monastary, Qinghai, Tibet, China. Over 100 meters tall Lord Tsongkapa statue. The only one of it's kind. Totally amazing. Picture 2
1 month ago
Xiaqiong Monastary, Qinghai, Tibet, China. Over 100 meters tall Lord Tsongkapa statue. The only one of it's kind. Totally amazing. Picture 1
1 month ago
This was taken in Kechara House. Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
This was taken in Gaden Shartse Monastery on the day of my enthronement as Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
I think I was in Sera Mey Monastery when this was taken over 18 years ago. Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
1 month ago
Many times we hear great Vajra Yogini practitioners when cremated, their fire pyres appear in the form of Vajra Yogini. We hear this many times as a sign they went to Kechara Paradise, gained high realizations or enlightened by Vajra Yogini's path. Although this picture does not depict a funeral pyre of a great practitioner, but the fire looks curiously like Vajra Yogini. Enjoy and may all be blessed by Vajra Yogini. Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
1 month ago
When you work hard and produce results, everyone is silenced and those who make noise is just noise and society allows you some freedoms. You have to have the integrity to finish what you started and what you promised. Do it for others, those concerned and for yourself.~Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
You can work with me and we finish the dreams. You can leave citing any reasons you may have. You may join back again with me and my arms are open to you. Or you may go away as an enemy or remain friends. However you do I will accept. I dream big and work hard and sometimes it's hard for you, others and me, but if we finish, there is great satisfaction. Satisfaction doesn't come free. But one thing for sure, I will finish what I have started with or without you. Too many depend on it and many have hopes in it. We need to remember our words, our promises and our hopes we gave others and not shatter it. Sometimes we need to put our personal feelings aside and just get it done with a bang and be happy about it because in the end letting others down is not a way of life. Be kind, have integrity, don't make excuses, don't justify but just complete the works that make the dreams materialize and in the process you fulfill the dreams of many others. Others is always the key. Others and oneself are intertwined. Life is then fulfilled. That is life. Life is like that.~Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
Please click on picture to see this special mantra
1 month ago
Long Manjushri mantra: Namo Manjushriye Kumara Bhutaya Bodhisattvaya Maha-sattvaya Maha-karuni-kaya Tayatha Om Aradzey Biradzey Shuddhey Bishuddhey Shodaya Bishodayey Amaley Bimaley Nirmaley Dzaya-varey Ruru-tsaley Hung Hung Hung Phet Phet Phet Soha!
2 months ago
Love is.....
2 months ago
Very powerful. Must click on picture and read and share.
2 months ago
Some people just work quietly in the background and do their best in their own way to benefit others. They don't say much but work super hard. I must say Pastor Dr. Lanse is one of them. She does not need attention, she does not complain and she does not ever create problems. She is independent and yet kind. She is our wonderful translator who works very hard to get translations of many dharma teachings into Chinese. This is just something short and sweet to let everyone know how much I appreciate Pastor Lanse and enjoy being with her work and her. Because of her and several other vital and lovely people, much practical dharma is in the Chinese speaking world. I thank Pastor Dr. Lanse from my heart. Tsem Rinpoche
2 months ago
Materialism is prevalent because the societal norms teaches people to be consumers at a young age. Buying things we don't need all to feed the ego. You can drive an expensive vehicle, but at the end of the day its still just a car. You can buy a flashy watch, but in reality all it does is tell time. People are more concerned with image and feeding their egos than being a beneficial person to society. Investing money on the outside to appear a certain way to others, yet forgetting to invest in yourself to becoming a better person. People spend their whole lives working to attain materialistic things using their accumulation of materialism to validate their existence, but when you die you can't take any of it with you. Don't let this system turn you into a vanity slave, realize you're worth much more than that. Feed your soul not your ego.-from Dr Asky (Powerful words of wisdom even from the secular point of view)
2 months ago
I love little Dharma boy.
2 months ago
Lord Tsongkhapa's holy retreat house in Tibet. Huge pilgrimage spot.
2 months ago
Lama Tsongkhapa footprint as a child
2 months ago
Kedrub Je's personal statue of Yamantaka
2 months ago
Prince Siddhartha with his maternal aunt Queen Mahaprajapati Gotami
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Videos On The Go

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    2 months ago
    HH the Dalai Lama prays with HH Trijang Rinpoche and HH Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche. Such a beautiful video of His Holiness Dalai Lama, His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and His Holiness Dilgo Kyentse Rinpoche (Very exalted high Nyingma lama) are all praying together. In the background you see a young Kyabje Lati Rinpoche too. So beautiful. This is how it was before the ban. All the sects and high lamas were superbly harmonious. After the Dorje Shugden ban things changed for the worse. May the ban be released soon. Tsem Rinpoche
  • Nice Dorje Shugden rock painting
    3 months ago
    Nice Dorje Shugden rock painting
  • His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche teaches the truth of life and our impeding death.
    3 months ago
    His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche teaches the truth of life and our impeding death.
  • A kind message from Mr. Tsering Wangchuk to me. Thank you so much. Tsem Rinpoche
    3 months ago
    A kind message from Mr. Tsering Wangchuk to me. Thank you so much. Tsem Rinpoche
  • Mr Chatreng Yeshe's message to me (Part 1)
    3 months ago
    Mr Chatreng Yeshe's message to me (Part 1)
  • Mr Chatreng Yeshe's message to me (Part 2)
    3 months ago
    Mr Chatreng Yeshe's message to me (Part 2)
  • His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche accepts Long Life puja
    4 months ago
    His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche accepts Long Life puja
  • Dorje Shugden/Kache Marpo makes offerings to Tsem Rinpoche
    4 months ago
    Dorje Shugden/Kache Marpo makes offerings to Tsem Rinpoche
  • My good friend Justin Ripley
    5 months ago
    My good friend Justin Ripley
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    6 months ago
    I requested Choji Lah to do a trusol, rabney and soongdroop for our large DS and Buddha. In this video, he is performing trusol which is ritually 'bathing' the environment and blessing all those who come to visit our Wisdom Hall and Dorje Shugden. Tsem Rinpoche
  • Bigfoot arrives!!!
    6 months ago
    Bigfoot arrives!!!
    Tsem Rinpoche is an avid follower of the paranormal such as bigfoots. For more interesting writings and posts on the subject, please go to http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/category/yeti-bigfoot-sasquatch
  • Mumu Loves Snack!
    6 months ago
    Mumu Loves Snack!
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    6 months ago
    For H.E. Tsem Tulku Rinpoche, a blog post is not just a blog post but Dharma work that generates merits which should be dedicated. Click here to find out what blog post Rinpoche was dedicating the merits for when he recited this prayer: http://bit.ly/1KiXWf9 ~Ani Lobsang Pema
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    6 months ago
    Panchen Lama in Beijing on CCTV - China's official news. The respect and position they give His Holiness Panchen Lama is great.
  • Magical fish tank with Buddha statue
    6 months ago
    Magical fish tank with Buddha statue


A section for you to clarify your Dharma questions with Kechara’s esteemed pastors.

Just post your name and your question below and one of our pastors will provide you with an answer.

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  • November 27, 2015 05:47
    Harold asked: Could you tell me what the English translation of Trakze's mantra is.
    No reply yet
  • November 26, 2015 01:24
    Chong CK asked: Dear Pastor, Recently bought Buddha statue @ Kechara
    No reply yet
  • November 25, 2015 12:48
    Jayden asked: Hi, I've been having sleeping difficulties lately do you know a mantra that could help with sleeping problems?
    No reply yet
  • November 22, 2015 23:09
    Monica asked: Hi....I am a pig...born in a metal year.....wht business should i venture in....
    pastor answered: Dear Monica, I am sorry but i am not an astrologer to be able to answer this question. Rather than rely on astrology, may i suggest that you engage in work that you want to do, that you have a passion for and that is a good living? Astrology can be very effective but it can only show potentials of what could be, to make them manifest you need to put your own effort and energy into it. But as that is the case, if you do the same in anything you want to do, you will get results. I hope this helps.
  • November 20, 2015 13:54
    Lee asked: Just want to ask a question. If a rape happens because of karma then the rapist should not be punished true or not accordingly to Buddhism?
    pastor answered: Dear Lee, This is a very good question. According to the law of karma, the potential of a situation in which rape occurs can lead to it occurring. But the causes and conditions for this to occur must come together before the potential manifests, as with all karmic potentials. This being the case, since the act of rape is carried out by a person who has self-will, even if the causes come together if the potential rapist does not make a conscious effort to engage in rape, the causes and conditions for the karmic potential to manifest simply pass and the karma remains dormant until it either manifests later on or is purified. Therefore, the major factor here is not actually Karma but the actions of the rapist. This person should obviously be punished, as they made a conscious effort to engage in the act of rape. This is true from a secular perspective, and also from a spiritual perspective they have engaged in action that is extremely damaging to the victim, which means that the rapist himself/herself has created even more negative karmic potential to suffer from in the future.
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12 minutes ago
On June 14, 2015 Kechara marked another milestone with the opening of Kechara House Penang. Located in the northern island state of Penang, the opening of Kechara House Penang is the result of many years of hard work by my student Pastor Patsy Gooi. H.E. the 25th Tsem Rinpoche - Pastor Antoinette
57 minutes ago
This is a campaign that aims to raise funds for food for the rescued birds in the aviary of Kechara Forest Retreat. http://bit.ly/1Ra7Ja2 Please help us to take care of the birds nobody wanted. - Pastor Antoinette
5 hours ago
Looking for a vegetarian banquet experience? Look no further! Visit us at Kechara Oasis for special weekday promotions on vegetarian banquet menus. Promotion period runs from 1 Dec 2015 to 31 Jan 2016 with prices starting as low as RM488++. Make your reservation today at: Kechara Oasis Jaya One Tel: 03-7968 1818 or Kechara Oasis Viva Home Tel: 03-9284 1818
8 hours ago
A life sized Buddha statue recently unearthed at Mes Aynak, Afghanistan.~ Lilyn Tan
16 hours ago
Dr.Chris Chong gave a sharing on the prevention of headaches and migraine through exercises with Kechara House and Puja House staffs on 26/11/15. Lucy Yap
19 hours ago
Big Dorje Shugden puja did for Sponsor to clear the obstacles he face. By Puja House 26 November'15
19 hours ago
Menlha puja sponsored to eliminate the pain the Sponsor's beloved feel due to the illness. By Puja House 26 November'15
19 hours ago
Gossip Cutting Puja, also known as The Dharani of Glorious Vajra Claws sponsored by sponsor to cut the rumours which is not true about her. By Puja House 26 November'15
19 hours ago
Oops!! Everyone were excited when they saw a visitor who is Indian ghost came from British. How grateful. Victoria Lam KSDS.
19 hours ago
We have a group of pretty witches we're pay a visit at KFR. Victoria Lam KSDS.
19 hours ago
Beside of teaching in KSDS, every teachers has talents. Teacher Victor done make up by himself. Victoria Lam KSDS.
19 hours ago
Horror cake specially made by our sponsored. Do you dare to eat? Only special on our KSDS Halloween event. Victoria Lam KSDS .
19 hours ago
Thank you to Pastor Chia who had help us to make Organic Lemongrass cocktail with Chia seeds on our KSDS Halloween in KFR. Victoria KSDS.
20 hours ago
Think deeply ~Tsem Rinpoche From:June Tang(Khjb)
20 hours ago
Love all ~Tsem Rinpoche From:June Tang(Khjb)
20 hours ago
Where to go? ~Tsem Rinpoche From:June Tang(Khjb)
20 hours ago
Please lift ban now ! ~Tsem Rinpoche From:June Tang(khjb)
20 hours ago
I'm balancing ~Tsem Rinpoche From:June Tang(Khjb)
20 hours ago
Truth talk. ~Tsem Rinpoche From:June Tang(Khjb)
20 hours ago
Beauty in truth. ~Tsem Rinpoche From:June Tang(Khjb)
20 hours ago
Dorje Shugden Retreat: A powerful practice to fulfill wishes ! http://bit.ly/1z0z42k - Pastor Antoinette
20 hours ago
I choose Dorje Shugden ! From:June Tang(Khjb)
2 days ago
Kechara Puja Team completed an Outcall Dorje Shugden led by Pastor Tat-Ming Lim this afternoon. Pastor gave a dharma talk of Introduction to Dorje Shugden to those present in the puja.
2 days ago
25 November 2015 A Bodhisatta is a being devoted to Enlightenment - http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/external-article/a-bodhisatta-is-a-being-devoted-to-enlightenment - Pastor Antoinette
2 days ago
Rinpoche is so kind and campassion. Let everyone can invite buddha to home#http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/ - HoyRou - KO





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