Rich People

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In a series of startling studies, psychologists at the University of California at Berkeley have found that “upper-class individuals behave more unethically than lower-class individuals.” Ongoing research is trying to find out what it is about wealth — or lack of it — that makes people behave they way they do. Paul Solman reports as part of his Making Sen$e series.

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Mike B. −  

Why does this require a study? I can tell you the answer right now: when you have obscene amounts of money people treat you differently. You can do whatever you want, talk however you want, buy whatever you want. Nothing holds value, because you can just buy a replacement. Therefore there is no consequence to your actions, and everything is disposable: items and people both become expendable. When you’re poor everything has value, because you can’t just simply throw it away and replace it. You have to really put time and effort into not only obtaining/creating, but also maintaining and sustaining what you have. You can’t just get on a private jet and leave the people who you’ve pissed off around you, therefore you tend to be less of a dick. 

 

NSNY > Mike B.  

Wealthy people also get LOTS of free stuff. Everyone wants to give you free things because they figure that you must sway a lot of influence, and that of course you’re going to run right out and tell everyone about your “thing” or use it in public, or connect them with some other important person. Seen it firsthand. It’s easy to stay well-off when you don’t have to buy things like clothing, cars and even – yes, a condo.

 

sflyons > Mike B.  

Criminology studies have shown that the biggest deterrent to committing crime is the *likelihood* of being caught and punished (not the severity of the potential punishment). I think that can be safely extended to dickness generally. The sense of negative consequences is lower if you’re rich, especially born rich.

 

NSNY > Davis

People who have been fed with wealth since they were a child growing up are less responsible. Tend to quit halfway much more. Likely to not succeed much in life. Be very good in talking, explaining and justifying why they are huge losers and generally eloquent. Eloquent because they are self trained to justify why they always quit or have no results. They love to live at home or near their parents because easier to sponge off their parents. They are the ones with the most emotional ‘problems’ as they like to validate their situation. Their favorite defense is using depression as an escape from being responsible or producing results. They are always depressed. Always on some anti-depressants or seeing the analyst. They love to let the whole world know by fb and tweets how they are depressed or recovering AGAIN (Who gives a damn?). Every conversation is dominated by their depression stories. Boring to hell. 

Mind you though, rich is subjective. It’s people who grew up without having to make much effort to live and pay expenditure. All was presented to them on a easy help yourself platter. So when they are adults, they expect everything to be handed to them also and when it’s not, they have major emotional eruptions. Mount St. Helens volcano would be benign next to their repeated boring tantrums when they don’t get what they want. I have two friends (one in NY and the other in Florida) and though we are close, this really describes them to a tea. If you grew up with everything easy for you, you will be use to wanting the same as an adult. Trust me. You won’t get it. No one will entertain this unless they are stupid!

 

sflyons > Jeanette L.

The ones who leach off their parents and still live at home even though they are adults are the ones that really turn me off. Hello!! Get your own place! And if you have kids, that’s worse! I have to schlep for a living and nothing is free. I have to keep my temper to myself and just work for that paycheck. No time for depressions and expressions of my mind. Just work and get that paycheck. This means putting up with things that made my character evolve. How about you? Still at home.

 

sflyons > Lyons

Your just jealous I’m rich! Get back to work for you and me, a martini please.

 

 

[Extracted from: http://dangerousminds.net/comments/rich_people_are_dicks_and_heres_the_proof]

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27 Responses to Rich People

  1. tenzinkhenchen on Jul 13, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    I remember reading about an experiment, forgot where though where scientists left wallets on the streets on various rich and poor neighborhoods. The rich neighborhoods, oddly enough, did not return the wallets and the poor people returned the wallets. Interesting. Thank you for sharing Rinpoche.

  2. Leu Chong Hin -kH (JB) on Jul 13, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    From my point of view, this experiment result doesn’t really represented the all behavior of rich people because human mind are variable and mind can be change in different situation when adopted in different environment . I do see richer people are really promise to do the charity works that will beneficial to the people. Thanks.

  3. Patrick on Jul 13, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    I worked for the Red Cross collecting donations and it´s really strange. The moment you see a mercedes or a big gate you don´t need to knock at that door but unemployed people always give you money for Red Cross and charity.

  4. Desmond on Jul 13, 2013 at 9:21 pm

    Dear Rinpoche,

    Thanks for sharing out another great video and article. I cannot comment the legitimate of such study and there could be possibly truth on surface. Whether the question of Rich People have such pattern of behavior by default? I’m not sure that is 100% accurate too.

    Now I have experienced dealing with wealthy people not only rich in terms of monetary but wealthy in various areas in life too. I believed one that being rich financially does not represent automatically being wealthy. Wealthy comes from mindset and those that being rich behaving such most likely have not gone through proper education on their mindset.

    There are many self-made millionaire that I know of are very humble and practically are more giving than people that make lesser in their living. Those that are wealthy like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet don’t focus on more money in their life, they focus on what they want to do in their life.

    Hence, being rich is just a label. Even they are rich does not mean they are rich in their mindset. Our right mindset determine us how we behave even whether we are rich or not.

  5. Nikki on Jul 14, 2013 at 12:40 am

    I think extreme wealth breeds unethical behavior, people who tend to worship money worship very little else. At least that has been my experience.

  6. Valentina Suhendra on Jul 14, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Interesting study! Although it is true that some rich people can feel entitled to get the whole world but I think the documentary failed to hightlight abt unethical behavior done by the well off such robbery thiefing. it aldo failed to highlight that less well off people can feel depressed too and experiece fear to move forward in life and try new things. That can cause unhappiness too.

  7. Grace Leu(KHJB) on Jul 14, 2013 at 6:24 pm

    Maybe rich and wealth may lead someone lost easily but I do belive there are good people who are rich, there also got bad people in poor society.regardless poor or rich, is human mind decide his own character.

  8. lucy yap on Jul 14, 2013 at 7:58 pm

    Dear Rinpoche,
    Not every rich people think and act differently from middle-class or poor people.Everyone is an individual.There are many other factors that can effect a person’s behavior.
    Many people think class behavior is measured by the amount of money people have and it is not completely true. Money buys advantages but other factors are involved too. There are many “rich” people who are lovely,friendly and kind people.Those don’t depend on money.
    Thank you for sharing this interesting post Rinpoche.

  9. Choongs on Jul 15, 2013 at 12:41 am

    It is programmed into our caveman-dominated genes. As hunter- gatherers for most of our existence, successful homo sapiens have more food inventory and hence are able to take more risk.

    On the other hand, relatively unsuccessful humans have to take less risk and even bow to the successful ones in hope that the latter may share the bounty.

    At the extreme, when a homo sapien has so much inventory that he can feed ten generations, he can of course be very generous and share because it will not affect his well being even an iota. I.e. Warren Buffet, Bill Gates

  10. KH Ng on Jul 15, 2013 at 7:27 pm

    Being rich or poor is a state of the mind. If the mind is expose to both state of mind then they are more likely to be charitable and altruistic. In Buddhism the same truth has been expounded via the Four Noble Truth. If one is exposed to the truth of suffering than certain realization arise resulting in a more altruistic behavior.
    So we can say the rich is not rich and the poor is not poor. Everything is from the mind. It opens up a lot of possibilities, doesn’t it?

  11. Edern Tan on Jul 15, 2013 at 11:03 pm

    I do not agree with the video as in Singapore no matter you are rich or poor u are as the poor u don’t stop for pedestrians u just drive as fast as you can same as the traffic light. People in Singapore are greedy they take lots of things that are not yours like tasting the trial food we take the whole plate. So people should not be judged like that,

    • Choongs on Jul 15, 2013 at 11:48 pm

      You have a point there. Money money money their tantra?

  12. Ivy on Jul 16, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Nice share!

    I think being rich or poor is not the cause but the attachment to material wealth that is the cause.

    From a psychological standpoint, it is more likely for the rich to be attached to their material wealth. This is the result of a cognitive bias called the endowment effect. (Basically, you overvalue what you have.)

    However, it is also possible for the not-so-rich to be attached to it as well. Imagine a poor person, worrying and thinking about nothing except money — always jealous of rich people and measuring everyone according to the barometer of wealth.

    Those who are attached to money will likely exhibit more unethical behaviour – the rich would of course be able to practice it right away, but the not-so-rich will also practice it if/when they become rich.

    Those who don’t have such attachments will likely not behave this way regardless of their financial status. :)

  13. Low KHJB on Jul 16, 2013 at 11:52 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for the sharing.As for the research done in the US there might some truth in what they say.But these does not represent everyone in general.
    If the society takes religious practice as a past time and they start worshiping money and status as their goal in life.Then ego and greed will get the better part of their behavior in life.
    There are some rich people who had reach the peak of the fame and wealth .Who could see beyond that and could be very compassionate and generous without any agenda as they had it all.
    It is normally those up coming middle class that will bend the rules to gain attention,wealth and try very much to gain more to secure their position.
    If society constantly apply some dharma knowledge from what religion they come from in their daily lives,society will look at the norm of life differently with more caring and sharing.

  14. Edward ooi on Jul 17, 2013 at 7:08 pm

    Dear Rinpoche, they are really smart, I have no idea how they can judge by just looking at people’s behavior? I like how they use the monopoly game as an experiment. For me, I understand only some part of the whole experiment maybe because I’m too young to understand or I’m just not smart enough.

  15. Sharon Saw on Jul 23, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    This is an interesting psychological study. It seems like wealth gives people arrogance and a feeling of superiority, which is why branded goods and luxury items do so well because people are inherently insecure and seek security in material items. A Prada bag or a diamond in the middle of Africa means nothing because nobody values such a branded item there, so everything only exists on imputed value. People equate rich and power, and most of the time, it is true – the rich are powerful because everything is dependent on economic strength, from a person to a whole country. The richest countries in the world control the poorer ones; materially and psychologically.

    It is also interesting to observe the nouveau riche – who may have well earned their wealth through hard work (as opposed to the old rich, who inherited their wealth from the sweat of their grandparents and beyond). The nouveau riche are usually even more ostentatious with their wealth and arrogant because they feel that they deserve that status since they worked their butts off for their wealth.

    Pride comes before fall though, and those who do not take care of their wealth often squander it and suffer later. I guess it’s karma. Dharma is the only guideline to really ensure that our inner and outer wealth is looked after. Sometimes the more wealthy need Dharma more because their attachments are stronger than those who have not. Those who have the opportunity to come across Dharma – whether rich or poor – are really the fortunate ones indeed.

  16. Shelly tai on Jul 23, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    Shelly tai on 23 July 2013 at 5pm
    Is true or not true for rich people to misbehave . If anyone of us who learn the dharma and transform our mind then whether we are rich or poor we still do something do benefit others. So the point is the dharma not the wealth. Thank you Rinpiche for sharing this video with us.

  17. Cliff on Jul 24, 2013 at 2:28 am

    This really is a very interesting study, it has conducted what many people have been using wealth as an excuse for their failures or success. I really like the experiments thrown in to test the psychological effects it does to people who are pretend rich and pretend poor, and was really astonished by the findings of behaviour from them. From some point of view of this topic I really agree with their opinions of how the wealthy behave as oppose to the poor. But then again not everyone is the same, but majority is as they say they are.

    Their use of monopoly I find is a very good idea and how they study the behavioural patterns is quite cool. I’ve played the game before and understand how someone would feel if they were rich or poor, being uncomfortable in a position where their actions would matter when you’re poor as oppose to taking advantage of their position at a higher risk when you are rich. Behaviour when being rich in monopoly the user would start to take demand and charge in order to lead themselves further into the game that they would be safe, but when relating to real life how much can you earn or do in order to truly feel safe?

    People may give the example of Warren Buffet or Bill Gates, but when someone comes to the point where they have so much that earning more would be meaningless, they still have the “money” and “luxury” to give to others and be generous. Everybody displays different sort of Ethics, I have met really “wealthy people” who still partake in charitable activites on the other hand still have met “poor people” who are stingy with their expenses and give their reason not to do charitable activities because they cannot afford to do it.

    It really depends on how someone would be brought up by society, environment and parents. I think the cause of rich people behaving more unethical in this study may be due to being born in a rich family, where their parents are more focused on earning the money for the family but forgetting to realise they are not building a close relationship with their spouse to teach them any ethics. But then again there may be many possibilities and I could be wrong.

    I also find what NSNY said really interesting. When being handed to everything so easily at such a young age and growing up to never completing anything in their lives quitting half way, always try to justify their failures and talk their way out of it and push it aside trying to make people forget they quit at something. But later finding it hard in life that nothing would be given to you on a plate as it had been when you were a child. I think i still suffer in this behaviour in some ways but I am aware of it thanks to my parents always knocking it into my head that they wouldnt always be around for me to support me. I’m trying my best to get myself out of it and try to support myself, but always worry whether that would ever happen. I see what sflyons says “the ones who leech of their parents and still live at home even though they are adults…” and find this thought to always be my motivation to work hard in my career to lessen the burden off my parents and hopefully one day be able to take care of them in return and my siblings.

    Watching this video and reading peoples comments extracted by Rinpoche has made me think a lot of my current position and my behaviour as a person in my position. Only wanting to be a better person from this lesson of study. I really want to thank Rinpoche for sharing with us this interesting study on the behaviours of people in relation to their wealth and hope that we get the right lesson to be learnt intended by Rinpoche. I hope Rinpoche is well thank you.

    I want to work hard so I can give Rinpoche lots of Ang Paus, who doesn’t like Ang Paus. Hehe.

  18. wahying on Jul 25, 2013 at 11:37 pm

    This is an interesting study.

    Did BMW drivers arrogant? If you do a search on the web will probably find out there are quite a lot of articles on “certains types of car owner and their behaviours”. I came across an article on certain types of personalities will attract to certain type of cars.

    What is interesting is that, to label BMW drivers as arrogant drivers not only happens in Europe countries, in China there is even trend of labelling BMW drivers as bad drivers since many incidents of BMW drivers of the country are rude and some resort to violence when they involve in road accidents.

    To own a BMW or others luxury cars doesn’t mean you are wealthy. In this era of materialism, your car is your society status label. To own a luxury car could mean you are wealthy at the same time it could just mean you opt for this brand of car to show your status, to attract certain types of clients/girlfriends/boyfriends/friends. It does not tell how much money you have in the bank; or how civilized or how kind you are.

    My point is to drive a BMW does not mean you are rich, it could be a personal choice of lifestyle.

    In the other hand, I am thinking about why people interested in doing this kind of research and at the same time have many supported it?

    Does this imply that there is significant numbers of “anti-rich/wealthy”people out there? Is this have something to do with the way how wealth was (not fairly) distributed in society? Or there are many who do not work hard at the same time not happy with hard working and successful people?

    • Sharon Saw on Aug 12, 2013 at 11:46 am

      You’re right, Wah Ying… just because one owns a luxury car or lives in a big house, it does not mean that the person is wealthy. I know many people who have taken a large loans just so they can drive an expensive car. It is probably to show people how “successful” they are and thus just a sign of insecurity. And they would even cut down on other expenditure just to feed this illusion. And why? Because society puts forward this illusion that if you’re successful, people will respect you. Therefore people keep chasing the false objective of acquiring material wealth.

      All these material goods give a variety of impressions to people. Yes some people will think wow if you drive a nice car, but i believe that respect is not so easily acquired. In fact, if you drive a nice car but you’re a lousy character, people won’t respect you even if you drive the most expensive car on earth. I believe that true respect will be for people who are humble, hardworking and show strong moral principles, regardless of what car you drive :)

  19. Uncle Eddie on Jul 27, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    From my own social observation backed by some researched studies I have read, it has shown that the upper-class individuals are often less cognizant of others, ignoring the emotions of how others feel, less generous (except for showing offs) and are more disengaing socially in society. Being in the upper class echelon, it may be easier to act unethically toward others if you’re not thinking a damn about how others feel! Many in the high society class, feel that perhaps by such self-perpetuating behaviour, would increase their high status recognition, therefore further prompting them to behave otherwise! But, being rich are not necessarily bad – they just need to be reminded of such unwarranted pattern of behaviour. Sometimes a simple reminder of what has been described may actually do a lot to change such pattern of behaviour. Anyway, it takes all kind of people to make the World!

  20. Andrew Boon on Aug 4, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    Hmmmm… Well… I think it is not the money per se that is the problem. I know people from wealthy backgrounds and some ûber wealthy backgrounds and even within those circles there are varying exceptions and differences.

    It really points to the fact that money is not the root of the problem but the upbringing of the said persons. Sometimes with the perception of wealth comes the imposed societal “norms” and that I believe is the root cause of the negativity or exploratory behavior in wealthy people… NOT the size of their bank accounts!

  21. Wan Wai Meng on Aug 9, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    Rich and influential people, well they are very used to get away with everything. And every time they break the rules and laws, they get more and more habituated. And if they have a speeding ticket, so what they can pay it off? If we always think we can get away with anything, it becomes ingrained and a habit develops.

  22. Jutika Lam on Aug 12, 2013 at 10:46 pm

    Dear Rinpoche,

    This is a very interesting subject and the experiments that follow may not be in a science lab but yet it really shows a lot of positive signs that the study are quite true.

    Take the first part of the video for example, the narrator said that 90 percent of people do not stop to let pedestrians cross the road and most of the people were from mainly the people with cars such as BMW’s, Mercedes and other expensive and grand cars.

    Though I have never really observed through my eyes because i never knew that even by people not stopping their cars and letting people cross the Zebra crossing can tell so much about a rich person’s mind.

    The Monopoly experiment was also quite a straightforward and true test on turning a rich person’s mind around as well as turning a poor person’s mind around.

    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this very interesting video and article!

    Rest Well

    Love
    Jutika

  23. Ck siah on Nov 3, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    唉! 钱不是万能,但没有钱就万万都不能。还有再多的钱,死也万万不能带去,但也可能引起下一代的造孽,可悲呀。所以我认为想下世有好的转世,就在自己有钱的时候,累积功德,广结善缘, 把多余的钱财做慈善,回馈社会,帮助弱小团体。或捐助宗教团体。让我们累积更多的功德,功德无量。切记!切记!谢谢仁波切的分享。

  24. Carmen Lin @ KMP on Nov 3, 2013 at 10:45 pm

    My conclusion would be being in others shoes to understand others’ situation. By helping the rich to feel poor they’ll be more charitable and helping the poor to feel rich they may gain confident in their life. Environment can nurture one’s behaviour and thinking pattern, but it does not make them less human or different than others. People should learn to be more considerate and less self centric. Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this.

  25. Lt Loo on Nov 12, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    This research only show the behavior of human during Kaliyuga. The behavior of the rich was imputed on them as a way to show off the result of their success. the poor will adapt and inferior behavior in-front of more superior person for their own survivor. note how fast their behavior could change during the monopoly game! Thank you Rinpoche for working my lazy mind.

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  • tsemtulku
    (Thursday, Jan 29. 2015 01:38 PM)
    Every single day now I look forward very much to the day coming soon where the disappointing ban against the World Peace Buddha Protector Dorje Shugden will be over. It will be soon. Everything the Tibetan leadership has said against the Dorje Shugden practice has not made any sense. At first it sounded good, but as time goes on, educated people are examining their claims and coming to the conclusion it does not make sense. More are speaking out. Any government or leader should never criticize or ‘advise’ against any religious faith, path or practice. It is politically wrong not to mention it infringes on our religious freedom. If you don’t like a certain religious path, you keep it to yourself and not announce it publicly disappointing many.Un-democratic. What is important is look at the person not their skin color, race, religion or economic background. Religious apartheid must be removed even in the ‘advices’ we give others. Tsem Rinpoche
  • tsemtulku
    (Wednesday, Jan 28. 2015 03:05 PM)
    Dorje Shugden followers in the millions will not abandon their practice. So it would be good leaders of the Dorje Shugden practicing community met with the Tibetan leadership to work out something that will be a win-win situation for both sides. His Holiness Dalai Lama wants to meet the Chinese current leaders to resolve the Tibet issue. Why not meet the Shugden followers to resolve this issue too? Why forgive one ‘enemy’ and ignore another?~Tsem Rinpoche (Please read more here: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=57431)
  • tsemtulku
    (Wednesday, Jan 28. 2015 04:59 AM)
    Bradley Kassian: Might interest a few people here. It’s amazing what can pop up on youtube these days. This initiation of Dorje Shugden was conferred in Los Angeles in the 1980s onto Geshe Tsultim Gyeltsen’s own students in Thubten Dhargye Ling. Prior to Kyabje Zong Rinpoche giving the advice, Geshe-la formally requested Kyabje Zong Rinpoche to give an initiation of Dorje Shugden. Geshe Tsultim Gyeltsen was a very strong and devoted practitioner of Dorje Shugden and you can hear Geshe Tsultim Gyeltsen’s voice at the beginning of the video. After the formal request was made, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche himself, who is the overlord of all tantric mandalas, gave the profound initiation of Dorje Shugden to Geshe-la and all his disciples. And thereafter, Geshe-la and all his students practiced Dorje Shugden very strongly and very devotedly until the ban. : http://youtu.be/f6KuCPKDuCI
  • abby foo
    (Tuesday, Jan 27. 2015 08:01 PM)
    Now I understand, spirituality is NEVER about how great my practice, my Guru, my lineage are. Spirituality is NOT a competition of I am better than you or I am the best, spirituality is NEVER about right or wrong, higher or lower, bad or good. All these are what make us bitter and unhappy, and are the reasons why we came to seek spirituality because we know deep down inside we should be someone with a more opened heart that accepts and tolerates. Why putting ourselves back to the bitter situation again when we are in spiritual?

    Then what is spirituality? From Tsem Rinpoche’s actions and teachings, I know loyalty IS spirituality. Humble, tolerance, respect, understanding, keeping promises and being kind are spirituality no matter what you practice, no matter what is your religion/belief. All the qualities above have nothing to do with what your religion/belief are, but how you act, speak and think determine if you are a spiritual person.

    Those who don’t like Dorje Shugden, why keep condemning people over and over? Why speaks against it over and over? If you think you going to stop people from getting ‘harm’ because Dorje Shugden is bad, your intention is to stop harm, but why end up you actually CREATING HARM everytime you speak against Dorje Shugden and put those who practice it down??? If your intention is pure and kind, then the results should be pure and kind too, but obviously you are hurting people’s belief and emotions, and you show no respect to people.
  • Ashlee
    (Tuesday, Jan 27. 2015 05:33 PM)
    Buddhism is about following the true lineage passed down from Buddha Shakyamuni to his disciples and i personally find that Buddhist teachings are very logical hence i continue to learn and practice it by following my Guru, Tsem Tulku Rinpoche. If Dorje Shugden is an enlightened protector practices by high lamas such as Trijang Rinpoche, Zong Rinpoche and passed down to Tsem Rinpoche, how can they be doing the wrong practice? After all, Dorje Shugden is an “Enlightened Protector” and not just any normal worldly protector. Enlightened protector are suppose to help excel our Dharma practice and help us clear away our Dharma obstacles in this degenerate age. Logically speaking, then how can an enlightened protector bring harm to us or even help us to harm others? Also how can an enlightened being harm another enlightened being? That is illogical.Each of us bring with us imprints from previous lives and for some of us, we do have strong affinity with Dorje Shugden due to our practices from previous lives. I personally feel that i have a very strong affinity with Dorje Shugden protector and if it’s good enough for my Lama and his root Gurus and other high lamas to practice it, i think i can safely practice it without any doubt and at the same time still respect H.H. Dalai Lama. Thank you Rinpoche for speaking up.
  • Pastor Adeline
    (Tuesday, Jan 27. 2015 05:25 PM)
    Tsem Rinpoche: I hadn’t spoken up about the Dorje Shugden ‘conflict’ for 15 years. Let me explain why: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=57431.
  • Pastor Adeline
    (Tuesday, Jan 27. 2015 05:24 PM)
    When we find kind people, We appreciate them, When we find difficult people, We find ways to forgive them, When we find sad people, We find ways to uplift them, When we find people without hope, We find a way to give them light, By doing this tirelessly, We find our true selves. ~ Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
  • tsemtulku
    (Tuesday, Jan 27. 2015 05:08 PM)
    When we find kind people,
    We appreciate them,
    When we find difficult people,
    We find ways to forgive them,
    When we find sad people,
    We find ways to uplift them,
    When we find people without hope,
    We find a way to give them light,
    By doing this tirelessly,
    We find our true selves.~Tsem Tulku Rinpoche
  • Pastor Adeline
    (Tuesday, Jan 27. 2015 01:34 PM)
    Steve Tobias can think beyond the box and yes he is right. I am only doing what my guru has instructed me to do over 26 years ago. No politics, leaders or other masters will change my practice or change what I have promised my guru to do. Guru devotion is everything to me and it always will be. Tsem Rinpoche

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/dorje-shugden-people.html
  • Pastor Adeline
    (Tuesday, Jan 27. 2015 01:33 PM)
    Steve Tobias can think beyond the box and yes he is right. I am only doing what my guru has instructed me to do over 26 years ago. No politics, leaders or other masters will change my practice or change what I have promised my guru to do. Guru devotion is everything to me and it always will be. Tsem Rinpoche

    http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/dorje-shugden-people.html

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The Unknown

The Known and unknown are both feared,
Known is being comfortable and stagnant,
The unknown may be growth and opportunities,
One shall never know if one fears the unknown more than the known.
Who says the unknown would be worse than the known?
But then again, the unknown is sometimes worse than the known. In the end nothing is known unless we endeavour,
So go pursue all the way with the unknown,
because all unknown with familiarity becomes the known.
~Tsem Rinpoche

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This is super good news. Let's hope this trend continues to grow massive until everything is vegan. Tsem Rinpoche 
12 hours ago
In the monasteries we debate out issues for a logical conclusion. I have laid out three possible scenarios regarding: CAN TIBETAN LAMAS MAKE MISTAKES? Please take a look and let me know what you think: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=57528
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Dorje Shugden followers in the millions will not abandon their practice. So it would be good if leaders of the Dorje Shugden practicing community met with the Tibetan leadership to work out something that will be a win-win situation for both sides. His Holiness Dalai Lama wants to meet the Chinese current leaders to resolve the Tibet issue. Why not meet the Shugden followers to resolve this issue too? Why forgive one 'enemy' and ignore another?~Tsem Rinpoche (Please read more here: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=57431)
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Adorable little boy paying respects to Lord Shugden. 
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I hadn't spoken up about the Dorje Shugden 'conflict' for 15 years. Let me explain why: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=57431
2 days ago
Scotch and Mykol who are Valentina's wonderful good friends came to our LA Tsem Ladrang to have dinner. I am so glad they can come as they are nice friends. Tsem Rinpoche 
2 weeks ago
January 15, 2015. On today's Vajra Yogini day, the ladrang arranged a Vajra Yogini mandala made of flowers as an offering. Beautiful. Tsem Rinpoche 
2 weeks ago
January 15, 2015. Today is Vajra Yogini day. So Pastor Jj and our wonderful team has arranged these beautiful offerings on my shrine. Nice.  Tsem Rinpoche 
2 weeks ago
Uncle Lai for years now without a miss comes in once a week to clean the altar of the ladrang. To clean the sacred spots where holy images reside is considered good purification of karmas. He never misses this and then upon completion he makes nice fresh offerings. Uncle Lai is generally a very kind and reliable person. We all love him. Tsem Rinpoche 
2 weeks ago
Kyabje Dagom Rinpoche said to me a few years back that in order to practice or teach dharma these days, it's like being a white crow among the black. That means we will stand out and look unusual. But no matter what we must persevere. I miss this great teacher so much since his passing. He was gentle, scholarly, erudite, accomplished in sutra and tantra and had a very loving demeanor. He treated everyone equally and his vows of a monk were spotless. He was like a bright sun in the night sky. Even the first time I met him, he impacted me very strongly. I have received many teachings from him. He was a student of H.H. Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and H. H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche. I brought 60 students with me from various countries to have audience with Kyabje Dagom Rinpoche the last time I had a chance to gaze upon his golden face. His perfect incarnation has returned. May he manifest in this incarnation as the previous. Tsem Rinpoche
2 weeks ago
His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche with his close disciple Kyabje Gangchen Rinpoche. Very beautiful and old vintage picture. TR
2 weeks ago
This was the first woman to request Buddha to become a nun. Because of her, the nun's tradition began. She is a Arhat in the Chinese Mahayana Buddhist Tradition. Tsem Rinpoche
3 weeks ago
January 10, 2015. Nice to see Kecharians studying the dharma together today. I really enjoy seeing this and Pastor Shin was leading the class. Thank you.
3 weeks ago
How lucky I would be to live here...TR
3 weeks ago
Must share this wisdom always. Tsem Rinpoche
3 weeks ago
This is wonderful to remember. Tsem Rinpoche 
3 weeks ago
Pastor Niral giving a talk in Kechara. Wonderful.
3 weeks ago
January 9, 2015. Pastor Seng Piow takes his little nephew out for some toy shopping. The little guy was waiting anxiously to go out. 
3 weeks ago
His Holiness 9th Panchen Lama in Calcutta in 1905.
3 weeks ago
How nice. What a great gift from Mavis Yeh.  Tsem Rinpoche
3 weeks ago
I was so lucky to get teachings by His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche today on the SIX YOGAS OF NAROPA translated by Kyabje Zasep Rinpoche. And also Kyabje Zasep Rinpoche was the one who sent me these videos. How fortunate for me to get this. Tsem Rinpoche 
3 weeks ago
We have wonderful Kechara dharma seniors who are good and caring guides for our precious youths. I am happy to see this. Youths are so important. We must love them, respect them and share dharma with them to they mature into good people. Tsem Rinpoche 
4 weeks ago
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4 weeks ago
Beautiful Lady Buddha, not everyone has realized you are the alpha and omega of our inner liberation. Our mind constantly wanders in karmic creations weary yet still travelling of no choice. I seek the solace of your embrace to experience great bliss and home. Tsem Rinpoche 
4 weeks ago
Does this picture remind you where all of our lives are eventually heading to? It's just where in line are you right now? But you still are in line.  Tsem Rinpoche
4 weeks ago
We have to save this one and reflect upon it. TR
4 weeks ago
Very powerful. Never be stuck in our comfort zones. Think out of the box and do more to accomplish our goals. Tsem Rinpoche 
4 weeks ago
I love this type of environment so much. TR
1 month ago
Special gifts of toys and snacks for some special doggies...
1 month ago
This is very helpful. Tsem Rinpoche 
1 month ago
We have to be ready to change when we seek a teacher otherwise stay hidden.~Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
15 minutes to watch this will blow your mind: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=55883
1 month ago
H.H. the current Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche -December 2014
1 month ago
December 2014-His Holiness Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche in front of the largest Tsongkapa statue in the world. This Tsongkapa is in Champa Ling Monastery, Chamdo, Tibet. 
1 month ago
This is the perfect setting of the environment of where I like to live. With trees, blue waters, mountains, green, speckled with flowers. TR
1 month ago
Nothing can be found without searching for it. Just because others say you can't do it or don't believe in you or you can't see it, doesn't mean it cannot exist. Never give up!~Tsem Rinpoche 
2 months ago
This Manjushri is in Kechara's publishing wing. Stunning. TR
2 months ago
This Tara is beautiful. Save the pictures. TR
2 months ago
Having dinner with special friends from around the world. We are honored to be with Geshe Konchok Gyeltsen lak. 
2 months ago
This is very powerful. Share it. TR
2 months ago
Decemeber 2014-They just finished their Tsongkapa retreat and I am so glad for them. TR
2 months ago
We have so many mysteries and some can be proven while others not. TR
2 months ago
Amazing and so appropriate for some. 
2 months ago
This is so true and we have to think about it carefully. 
2 months ago
This is so true. It makes sense. 
2 months ago
Good dharma friends explore interesting places together.
2 months ago
These powerful quotes are timeless and I must read from time to time. It brings sanity, peace and focus. Tsem Rinpoche 
2 months ago
This is very interesting news. News I thought was not possible. 
2 months ago
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  • Socialite becomes a volunteer in Malaysian soup kitchen
    Socialite becomes a volunteer in Malaysian soup kitchen
    In the Malaysian capital, Ruby Khong devotes her lunch hours delivering food to the needy, even when the tropical heat and humidity make it hard to breathe. "It was always about myself, what I wanted and that continued on for a while until 1994," she says. That year, she was on a quest for spiritual guidance in India and met a Buddhist monk named Tsem Rinpoche. Read more here: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-29986205
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    Mumu always prepares his bed this way before sleeping. Cute.
    3 months ago
  • Watch what Jason Clare said in parliament
    Watch what Jason Clare said in parliament
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  • Super cute attack. Have to watch!!
    Super cute attack. Have to watch!!
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    They pump 'things' into poultry to make it look plump and bigger to attract you to buy. Then you eat whatever they've pumped and think how it builds up in your body? Is your taste buds worth it to risk your health? Tsem Rinpoche
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    Look at this 2 minute video, while Hong Kong is having massive protests,right over the skyline of a city a UFO is spotted observing.. Incredible footage. UFO's are historically said to always gather where there is massive conflicts or congregations of people for hundreds of years.
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    See this video and do share with friends. See what happens at 1:10........Om Mani Peme Hung Watch it for the sake of the beings within in enduring what they have to endure. Don't think about how you feel because you are not there, but how they feel. Tsem Rinpoche
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    I just purchased an empty locket from an art store for around $10 and had a nice picture of His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche inserted in the front and His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche inserted on the others side at home. Attached a str...ing and it's good to wear for blessings. Look how beautiful. I am the type, I devote myself to my practice but I remember it is the sole kindness of the guru's teachings. Without the guru there is no dharma at all as I cannot speak to Buddha directly. Tsem Rinpoche
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    I was gifted this wonderful blingy shiny new pen by a spiritual friend. I didn't know Swarovski pens write so smoothly. I am going to enjoy writing with this. Thank you Jessica Pimentel. Tsem Rinpoche
    4 months ago
  • Is this the Loch Ness monster?
    Is this the Loch Ness monster?
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    In Kechara Forest Retreat we have a large aviary with many rescued birds and tortoises. We just built a nice pool for them to cool down in. Tsem Rinpoche
    5 months ago
  • Rescuing dog in LA river
    Rescuing dog in LA river
    5 months ago
  • This is a very inspiring video by Jim Carrey you must see
    This is a very inspiring video by Jim Carrey you must see
    5 months ago
  • Dalai Lama watching TV
    Dalai Lama watching TV
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  • Dog with a heart of Gold
    Dog with a heart of Gold
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    6 months ago
  • 14th Dalai Lama with Mrs.Indira Gandhi , Delhi INDIA 1966
    14th Dalai Lama with Mrs.Indira Gandhi , Delhi INDIA 1966
    8 months ago
  • The Girl Who Couldn't Cry - Water is Life
    The Girl Who Couldn't Cry - Water is Life
    It's really hard to educate a generation of people born in conditions where they take things for granted. A simple slogan campaign that says, "Save water, It's precious" isn't sticky enough to make inroads. That's exactly where this video steps in: to make people realize how precious water actually is. A brilliant video that follows the heartbreaking story of a young girl that cannot cry. Sounds like fiction? Sadly, it is not.
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    Dear everyone, All sentient beings deserve to live, be happy and not hurt, including animals. We should never hurt them or eat them. Look how much this chicken welcomes a hug and love. Observe carefully. Don't eat beings who can feel pain because the karma comes back. Tsem Rinpoche
    9 months ago
  • The appreciation shown here is so deep and touching.
    The appreciation shown here is so deep and touching.
    Dear friends, See this incredible video. This chimp was found in captivity for many years. Dr Jane Goodall released him into the wild. Look how he comes back to thank her with deep apprecition. It's amazing. Animals have such strong feelings of pain and happiness just like us. We should never hurt them and share with others to not hurt them. Tsem Rinpoche http://www.tsemrinpoche.com
    9 months ago
  • Aki drinking some water in the aviary
    Aki drinking some water in the aviary
    Aki is a rescued bird, he now lives in Kechara Forest Retreat Aviary
    11 months ago
  • Jamyang enjoying some fresh corn
    Jamyang enjoying some fresh corn
    Jamyang is one of our rescue birds that live in Kechara Forest Retreat Aviary
    11 months ago
  • The Cute Mumus Practising Dog Orchestra at Kechara Forest Retreat
    The Cute Mumus Practising Dog Orchestra at Kechara Forest Retreat
    Today the Mumus (dogs) decided to do a dog orchestra rehearsal together with the Kechara Forest Retreat (KFR) dogs.
    11 months ago
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    Gongkar is our new bird for Kechara Forest Retreat's aviary. Gongkar never had friends and the original owner could not bring him to his destination. Now he is with us and assimilating in his cage within the aviary for a few weeks then released into aviary. Look at how much he wants attention from the other birds. Cute. Tsem Rinpoche
    1 years ago
  • Mumu, Oser and Dharma running and having a good time. I love seeing them playing. Tsem Rinpoche
    Mumu, Oser and Dharma running and having a good time. I love seeing them playing. Tsem Rinpoche
    1 years ago
  • Mumus running at Kechara Forest Retreat
    Mumus running at Kechara Forest Retreat
    1 years ago
  • Kechara Forest Retreat panorama, September 2013
    Kechara Forest Retreat panorama, September 2013
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    Dechog our cockatoo at Kechara Forest Retreat grabbing long beans which he loves. Nice bird. We love him. Tsem Rinpoche
    2 yearss ago
  • The mumus having outdoor evening stroll!!!
    The mumus having outdoor evening stroll!!!
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    17 May 2013, heavy rain at Kechara Forest Retreat from 7am-8am (1 hour). Water overflowed the existing drain and also opened up a much wider new "route" for itself.
    2 yearss ago
  • Must see video from Rajendra on our disciplined dogs
    Must see video from Rajendra on our disciplined dogs
    2 yearss ago

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Reading and hold discussions on Tsem Rinpoche's blog chat weekly promotes healthy learning together @ Kechara Puja House team. 29Jan15 may ong
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House blessing in a new house today lead by Pastor Yek Yee and puja team. 29Jan15 may ong
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Alter setup of Dorje Shugden for a sponsor today in Kechara Puja House. 29Jan15 may ong
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Homeless no more! Uncle Tai (who was beaten and robbed the other night) is now living life #offthestreet. We also gave him new set of clothes and shower before referring him to Pusat Kebajikan Global for permanent stay. It took us quite a few days prior to this to build the trust that we can actually help him. Happy that this 72 year old uncle is now able to sleep on a comfortable bed with people taking care of him. Justin@KSK
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Students from INTI International University & Colleges who helped in the kitchen today! Justin@KSK
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Bless your home with beautiful Dorje Shugden canvas thangka available now at Kechara House gompa souvenir shop. Lucy Yap
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Karma is not fixed, take hope in that.~Tsem Rinpoche_share by Frederick Law
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No matter how big the opposition is, keep trying.~Tsem Rinpoche_share by Frederick Law
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Bless your home with this beautiful Dorje Shugden canvas thangka now available for invite at Kechara House gompa souvenir shop. Lucy Yap
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Sometimes we have to realize nothing is fixed~~Tsem Rinpoche_share by Frederick Law
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Our life is filled with endless mysteries, embrace them and don't be attached~Tsem Rinpoche_share by Frederick Law
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Love is easy if we surrender our anger~Tsem Rinpoche_share by Frederick Law
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We could never harm another, but that doesn't mean we sit by and be harmed. ~ Tsem Rinpoche_Share by Frederick Law
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I am not always available to meet, but my teachings are online always.~Tsem Rinpoche_share by Frederick Law
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I am not always available to meet, but my teachings are online always.~Tsem Rinpoche_share by Frederick Law
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Being kind to animals should be effortless.~Tsem Rinpoche_Share by Frederick Law
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Weekly Dzambala puja (E) at Kechara House gompa was led by Tat Ming and assisted Choo Weng Loong. Time: 8pm to 9.30pm. Lucy Yap
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Tonight's puja attendance in Kechara gompa for Lord Setrap and Dorje Shugden in chinese lead by Pastors. 28Jan15 may ong
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At Puja House other than doing Torma, pujas, volunteers and staffs gathered to learn and discuss Dharma together from H.E Tsem Tulku Rinpoche Blog. http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/
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Weekly Dzambala puja (E) at Kechara House was led by Tat Ming and assisted by Choo Weng Loong. Time: 8pm to 9.30 pm. Lucy Yap
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Our Wednesday "A" team (from left) Ashley, Annabelle, Angeline and Agnieszka. Justin@KSK
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Kechara House gompa is beautifully set up for tonight's auspicious double Protector Dorje Shugden and Setrap puja. Puja starts at 8pm to 9.30pm. Lucy Yap
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New volunteers, Shuni and Hecelus Tan prepared cleaned fruits for the 1st double protector puja in chinese tonight. 28Jan15 may ong
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