Integrity – a talk at the Floating Market in Thailand

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Last night we went to this wonderful night Amphawa Floating market. It’s opens only on Fri 3pm-10pm and Sat-Sun 12pm-10pm. We rented a boat for 600 baht (cheap) and can fit twenty on the boat easily. The boat takes you on a 17 kilometer ride through the market, firefly areas and to generally enjoy the calmness of the river. Afterwards, I decided to speak on integrity… If you don’t want to rent a whole boat, then per person is 60 baht…

Amphawa Floating market is 1 hour from Bangkok with no traffic. With traffic it will take you 2 hours. It is a must visit place for anyone visiting Bangkok. Also they have chalets or houses at the edge of the river you can rent and in the morning go to make offerings to monks also. It’s a very nice place. On either side of the river is many shops, stores, restaurants, eateries, pubs, stalls and other interesting things to see and buy. I really liked the place very much.

Thailand is amazing for sure… so many things to see and do…

Tsem Rinpoche

 

 


TRAVEL FACTS:

Amphawa Floating Market

Amphawa Floating Market  is located on a canal that flows into the Mae khong River in Samut Songkhram Province, about 80 km and 1 hour drive from Bangkok Central.

The floating market only opens on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.  3 pm – 10 pm Friday, 12 pm – 10 pm on weekends.

There are numerous stalls, shops, restaurants, temples and resorts on both sides of the river bank from street fashion, household items, handcrafted toys, authentic Thai food and art.

The Boat ride costs 60 baht per person, and to rent a whole boat is 600 baht.  It takes you on a ride to explore the market and stop at places with fireflies.  The whole journey is about 17 km, you can stop the boat anytime if you want to stop to shop or to eat.

Address:  Samut Songkhram province, Amphawa

Distance:  80 km from Bangkok Central

By Car:  1 Hour

By Van:  Take the skytrain and get off at Victory Monument.  Find the bus terminal nearby and hop on to a van going to Amphawa. Fare is around 70 baht per pax.

Make sure to tell the driver or operator that you’re getting off at Amphawa Floating Market. It will take approximately 2 hours.

Admission:  Free

Hours:  3 pm – 10 pm (Friday)
12 pm – 10 pm (Saturday and Sunday)

Directions:  Come from Samut Songkhram City and drive straight through the city, you will find the junction leading to Amphawa Market with a clear sign on the junction,  then turn left and go straight across a cement bridge, continue driving for about a couple kilometer, you would find Amphawa Floating Market junction on the left. The Amphawa Community located next to King Rama II Memorial Park and Wat Amphawan Chetiyaram.

 


Transcript of Integrity : Dharma talk at the floating market

 

Hi, I’m at the Amphawa Floating Market. This is the second floating market that we’ve been to. It has been a much…. There was another one that we went to that was original and that one is much smaller, and it’s quaint, and it’s nice but this one is huge, so you have to come about 2 hours from Bangkok to get over here and it’s in Amphawa.  It’s a huge tourist destination and everybody will know about it.  It’s a pretty commonplace to go and if you’re a tourist in Bangkok, you gotta come here, all right?

 

During the…On Friday, it is open 3pm to 10pm and on Saturday and Sunday it is open from 12pm to 10pm but if there is not a lot of business they close up at night around 9pm, all right? When you get to the parking lot, you walk in, there’s a whole bunch of stalls and a whole bunch of things that you can buy, lot of interesting things to see, and then when you get to the actual river, the pier area, this is where we are, the pier, there are a lot of boats to rent, you can re…you can rent a boat for about 600 baht or if you’re gonna go per person, you can go 200 per person if you’re a foreigner and 100 if you’re Thai, all right, that’s bahts. The river runs along shops and a lot of interesting little cafes and places where you can stop and eat, a lot of interesting things to see and then the boat goes one big round, takes about an hour, an hour and a half and they show you fireflies along the way. It’s a peaceful, quiet, calm kind of setting.

What is integrity? Why do you need integrity?

Anyways, today, the floating market here, I would like to talk about integrity. Integrity basically means that you honor what you promised. You honor your word. You honor your commitments. So whatever you say from your mouth you do it. Whatever you promised, you do it. Whatever you have committed to, you do it.  And you know, unless it’s a life and death circumstance, then you can’t do it, or if it’s a very powerful extenuating circumstance that you can’t do it, all right. And you go and explain, and you tell, and you share and you say why you can’t do it but otherwise, you gotta get it done.

 

So basically, what you promised people and what you tell people you’re gonna do and what you say what you’re gonna do, and the timeline that you give that you say you’re gonna do, you gotta get it done, you gotta do it. Everybody was raised differently and everybody kind of thinks differently, but I think anywhere in the world, if you keep your promises and you keep your commitments and you keep your words of honor, I think you’ll be a person that is respected, ,anywhere you go. And I think that anywhere you go, people will believe you and trust you and you develop a powerful, nurturing kind of relationship with people. I mean what you send out is what you’re gonna attract.  So if you’re gonna send out kinda of an energy that whatever you say doesn’t really matter, whatever you promise you don’t really keep, you know, and if you say something and whether you do it or not it’s up to your convenience. If that’s the kind of  energy you send out, that’s the kind of energy you’re gonna get back.  That’s the kind of people you’re gonna attract, that’s the kind of…that’s the kind of character you’re gonna get out of people, that people won’t take you seriously and also people won’t believe you or trust you and it’s…and it’s not worth it to go through life for people not to trust you, because when people don’t trust you, you can’t get things done. You can’t accomplish things. You can’t fulfill what you want to do because whatever you want to do, you need someone else’s help. You need people to, you need their assistance, you need their help, you need them to back you up in one way or another and if people don’t trust you they’re not gonna back you up.

 

Have you come across situations where people actually say they’re gonna do something and you believe it and you rely on it, and they don’t and how did it feel? Well that’s the kind of feeling we give other people if we don’t have integrity. I don’t wanna judge anyone or I don’t wanna put anyone down but I’ve come across quite a few bunch of people who didn’t live their life keeping their words and promises to others and it kinda changed at different junctures and it kinda changed in different situations and it kinda changed according to sometimes their convenience, I am sorry to say, and it’s very disappointing.

 

So, as an ordinary person, to deal with family, the example you give to your kids, to deal with friends, to deal with co-workers, integrity is very important. I mean kids trust us. You know our kids or kids trust us and if we tell them we’re gonna do something, we don’t, and we disappoint them. We kinda send a message to them that it’s okay to just say anything for the moment, and you don’t have to mean it, and they grow up kinda talking and acting like that and that’s not a good message to send to kids. If that’s the kind of message we send to co-workers, or to our partner or to our wives and husbands, the relationship is not gonna be based on truth. The relationship is not gonna be based on truth. The relationship is not gonna be based on honesty, and when the relationship is not based on honesty, is it a real relationship?  You know, so that ‘s what we have to check out for ourselves, it’s not for me to check out but for ourselves to check out and so it’s kinda hard sometimes for people, for some people, to do what they promised, to do what they say, and it’s.. it makes people suffer. People who are around us and if we don’t have integrity, we make them suffer. We make them filled with anxiety. We make them not like us and not respect us and we make it very difficult for them to work with us and after a while they kind of shun us.  After a while they kind of avoid us and we may have the best justification in the world for not fulfilling our commitments but you know if it’s once too many times, it’s once too often, they will experience the results, the karmic results, you know, the emotional results which is people shun us and people avoid us and people don’t wanna do things with us.

 

When we don’t have honor and we don’t have integrity, and we don’t have the commitment to fulfill our promises, eventually we’ll feel a sense of loneliness. Eventually we’ll feel a sense of sadness. Eventually we’ll feel a sense of isolation because people don’t want to be around us and people don’t want to be with us, and when they don’t want to be with us, how do we feel? We can’t blame other people. We can’t say its other people’s fault. It’s our fault. So in ordinary secular life, whether it’s with family, with friends, with co-workers, with kids, with you know, business partners, whatever it is, it is extremely important at all costs to keep our promises, keep our commitments and 100% keep to our timeline. If we do that, we will find that it’s easier to work with people. People will find that it’s easier to work with us. We’ll find that our relationships become better. We find that people start to you know…respect us and people like us, and when people respect us and like us, it’s a good feeling. Who doesn’t want to be respected and liked? Who doesn’t? And in everyday life, that type of practice of integrity is extremely important for a happy, harmonious existence.

 

 

How do you integrate integrity in Dharma? Why do we take vows?

Now, when we get into Dharma practice, when we get into tantric practice, when we get into meditational practices, integrity is the basis of all attainments. Why is that? Because in order to enter the door of Buddhism, you need to take on the Refuge vows. The Refuge vows recommend for you what to do and what not to do and in order for you to break negative habituations, in order for you to start on positive habituations. The purpose we take on the vows is to break negative habituations. The vows are not something to torture us. The vows are not something to hurt us or to bind us or to imprison us. The vows are actually something to help us transform our negative habituations to the positive and if we study the vows very well, and we study it carefully, and we check it very carefully, and we understand them, we will notice that the vows do not imprison us and when we take these vows, we are in front of the 3 jewels – the Guru-Buddha, the Dharma and the Sangha and we, from our heart, willingly take on the Refuge vows and every single day that we hold on to the Refuge vows, we collect the merit of whatever vows that we have taken and we create the merit to counter the negative habit related to that vow.

 

 

The Basis for taking Vows and the merits for taking vows

For example, if everyday you don’t steal, everyday you don’t steal, it’s neutral, you’re not stealing. But if you take a vow that you don’t steal, that you will never steal, that you will not steal, every single day that you exist, holding that vow and you don’t steal, you collect the merit of not stealing. The merit of not stealing is to have a very powerful personality in the future where when people listen to you, when people listen to what you say and they listen to what you have to share, it will be a very powerful impact on their minds and also when you don’t steal, in the future when you do business or you do agriculture or you do work, the work will be fulfilled more easily as a result of this merit.

 

So what happens is that when you don’t steal, and you promise or you take a vow not stealing according to Refuge vows, then every single day you live, you will collect the merit of not stealing as opposed to if you don’t have a vow and if you don’t steal it is just neutral, just totally neutral, nothing happens. For example, a baby doesn’t steal. A baby doesn’t take, a baby doesn’t rob, a baby is not able to but the baby doesn’t collect the merit of not stealing. Similarly if you take the vow of not lying, and everyday you don’t lie, you collect the merit of not lying as opposed if you don’t have the vow and you don’t lie. So, on that basis, you can relate that to all the vows and the vows are taken by the power of the object, the subject and the motivation, object being the 3 jewels, Buddha, Dharma and Sangha, the subject being oneself, being of sound mind, understanding the power of the vows and the motivation is to attain the highest enlightenment for all sentient beings, to bring the most benefit for all sentient beings, to bring the most relief to all sentient beings. In order to accomplish that, we need to become a fully enlightened Buddha. In order to become a fully enlightened Buddha and all the stages that we need to achieve to become a fully enlightened Buddha, then one must be able to start somewhere and that somewhere is holding the vows.

 

The Importance of Holding Vows

The Refuge vows came from Lord Buddha. It isn’t something made up. Then on top of the Refuge vows, you have, on the basis of the Refuge vows, you have the monk vows, the nun vows. On top…on the basis of the Refuge vows, you have the Bodhisattva vows. On the basis of the Refuge vows, you have the Tantric vows. So in order to take monk vows or nun vows, you must have the Refuge vows. Without the Refuge vows, you cannot have any other vows because the Refuge vows are the basis, all right? So, the Refuge vows teach you to control your body, speech and mind at a certain level, then when you take the Bodhisattva vows, it teaches you to generate altruism to another level. Then, when you take on the Tantric vows, you have the vows of transforming your perception of the world around you to another level, to that of enlightenment, okay.

 

So therefore, when you take the Refuge vows, it is to help you change your ordinary habituations from negative to positive. When you take your Bodhisattva vows, it helps you to refrain from actions and take on actions that generate altruistic motivation and thought and activity and when you take the Tantric vows, the vows help you to change your ordinary perception. So when you take the Tantric vows, it helps you to change your ordinary perception to a tantric or higher perception of the world around you. So in other words, it grants you full enlightenment.

 

So the three sets of vows are Refuge, Bodhisattva and Tantric. Ordinary vows, again I repeat, because there was a lot of noise just now, ordinary vows is to transform our ordinary habituations of body, speech and mind, to train up for the next step. The Bodhisattva vows are to help us to attain altruistic action, altruistic motivation, altruistic thinking, bodhicitta. Then the next set of vows is higher vows as tantric vows, which teaches us to view the world around us in a extraordinary way, in a clear, concise and very purified manner to help us attain emptiness, to help us attain full enlightenment.

 

So the Tantric vows, which are vital to become a Buddha, the Bodhisattva vows which are vital to become a Buddha and the Refuge vows which are vital to become a Buddha, if those are not taken, you cannot become a Buddha. If you do not take those vows, whatever yidam or meditational practices you do will not bear fruit quickly to become an enlightened being. So without those vows, can you make offerings? Sure you can. Without those vows, can you meditate and recite mantras and do sutras and study? Sure you can, but with those vows, by the power of those vows, the result is multiplied, the merits are multiplied, its swiftness and the quickness is multiplied. For example, if you want to catch a thief, if you catch a thief with the uniform of a policeman on or with no uniform on, it would be quicker with the uniform. Just as a hypothetical kind of example.

 

So like that, when you have your vows, whatever action you do it is multiplied, it is quickened, and the results are quickened on the basis of those vows. Remember, these vows originated from Buddha himself, so therefore there could be nothing but benefit from these vows. Once we take these vows, we have to honor them. We can go online and search the Refuge vows, the Bodhisattva vows and the Tantric vows. We can learn from them, we can memorize them, we should recite them daily or weekly until we are familiar and we should familiarize ourselves with those vows until it becomes second nature and it will become second nature because it is just re-habituation.

Those vows are not saying you’re a bad person. Those vows are not saying you’re an evil person. Those vows are saying you need to think and go in this direction to achieve full enlightenment. So, if you have practiced integrity in your daily life, you kept your promises, then holding on to vows will be very simple. If normally you don’t hold on to integrity, then holding the vows will be difficult and if we break these vows, or if we have an infraction on these vows, it does create negative merit. If we hold the vows and it creates positive merit at a quicker speed, then by breaking the vows, you collect demerit at a quicker speed and more powerful. I mean, it’s obvious, you know if you’re gonna go on a speedboat, if you’re gonna go really quick, if you have an accident, it’s gonna be a more severe accident as opposed to a rowboat that’s not going very fast. So, when you take the vows, you shouldn’t be afraid of vows and think “ Well, these vows can make me go to the 3 lower realms or it’s gonna collect a lot of negative karma”, what’s making you collect a lot of negative karma is not the vows. What’s collecting negative karma is you not having integrity. You not training yourself to hold the vows and to familiarize and to transform your habituations. Whether you have the vows or not will not determine if you go to the 3 lower realms. Your action’s motivated and your motivations is what creates the causes for the 3 lower realms.

 

So, whatever actions you are doing is the causes for you to go to the 3 lower realms, higher or lower. That’s up to you. The vows do not make you go to the 3 lower realms. You make yourselves go to the 3 lower realms. So if you wish to engage in Yamantaka, Vajrayogini, Cittamani Tara, Vajrakilaya, Avalokitesvara, Manjushri, if you wish to engage in Tara, Kalachakra, Guhyasamaja, Heruka, Hevajra, how to say…. any of the tantric practices that is expedient in becoming attained, then all those practices and all those initiations you must take vows. Don’t simply go for an initiation and think that “Oh, I don’t have to hold on to my vows. I can just take the initiation and recite the mantras.” According to His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche, all attainments arise from your vows and your words of honor. That’s why Vajrasattva’s practice is very important, that we need to do Vajrasattva’s practice every single day if we have tantric commitments. Why? It stops and purifies the broken vows and occasionally and due to past habituations, we will break our vows sometimes, that I mean, we’re normal human beings, but it should lessen over time, all right.

 

Once you take the vows, you don’t become perfect but once you take the vows, you strive towards perfection. When you take the vows, you don’t become perfect, but you strive towards perfection. So therefore, it’s very important that we, if we wish to accomplish higher meditations, higher practices, higher accomplishments, higher results in Buddhism, it is on the basis of our vows. It is on the 100% basis on the vows. If we don’t hold our vows, and we break our vows, we cannot gain the results that we wish to attain through a particular practice. If we wish to become a monk and because we take on the vows of a monk, if we throw our vows to the wind and we have no deference or no respect towards our vows, and we break our vows, then the results of becoming a monk will not be fulfilled, will not be fulfilled.

 

How can we wear tantric clothes, or wear spiritual clothes but not hold the vows of the clothes that we are wearing, that the clothes represent. So therefore, if we wish to have any higher attainments and higher results, we need to hold the vows. Without the vows, taking initiations will not bring results. Taking initiations and not holding the vows will not bring results. In fact, taking initiations and not holding the vows, it will generate even more demerit. So, we shouldn’t think that it’s a smorgasbord of initiations, this lama is giving that initiation, this lama is giving this ritual, this lama is giving that kind of practice and I should run to get all of it and just take any vows inordinately and arbitrarily, and as and when I like, you know, it doesn’t matter. No, it does matter. It does matter. If you take your practice seriously, you get serious results. So therefore, holding the vows are the roots of spiritual attainments and in tantra according to the Buddha Vajradhara, holding the vows and words of honor are the roots of us gaining higher attainments, higher realizations, higher abilities to benefit others and the very reason we hold our vows is out of compassion for others. When we have compassion for others, we hold our vows. When we hold our vows, we gain experience, we gain results from our meditation, we gain special abilities to be of more service to others. So holding our vows is out of compassion for others, so holding vows arises from the simple, secular practice of integrity. If we have integrity, then other people respect us. If other people respect us, we can do more for them. We can accomplish more with them. We can do much more for others if we have integrity.

 

So therefore, I think without having to take higher initiations and higher practices we should start today with what? We should start today immediately with having integrity. If we are a person with integrity, then it’s okay. If we are a person in the past we have slipped all the time on our promises and commitments, we gotta start today. We gotta change today. Having integrity gives us peace of mind. Having integrity gives people around us peace of mind. Having integrity makes people like us and respect us and it’s easier for us to get along with our friends. Having integrity attracts people of the same quality and the same characters who can either accomplish more works with you or just be good friends. Having integrity and friends with integrity is real friendship. Having a partner or a wife or husband that you have integrity with, you share integrity, it’s a real relationship, it’s a real joining of good people and having integrity is a great example to our children and they grow up to be people with integrity.

 

So today, in the beautiful floating market here, in Amphawa, I wanted to give you a little talk on integrity with all the wonderful people walking by and the boats and the river and some of the stores open. Nice people, nice boats, nice rivers happening outside, nice scene for you, but I do sincerely hope everybody will practice integrity and keeping your promise because it is really 100% the correct route to go, whether you’re spiritual or not and if you want to go to higher spiritual practices and results, integrity is the key. Thank you and good night.

 

Transcribed by Joey Wong


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22 Responses to Integrity – a talk at the Floating Market in Thailand

  1. Joyce Hobby on Aug 20, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Intention is EVERYTHING! Intention begins with the heart and influences mind and actions. Thank you for sharing your wonderful wisdom.

  2. Lim Han Nee on Aug 20, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Dear Rinpoche,

    Thank you for this powerful teaching(from Bangkok’s Amphawa Floating Market) on the importance of integrity, keeping our promises, honoring our words and, above all, holding our vows.THe benefits of integrity are tremendous. People will respect us and we will have beautiful and harmonious relationships with our friends,loved ones and the people around us.People who find themselves being shunned or isolated should know that these are the results of not keeping our promises and time-lines and of not showing integrity.

    Keeping our promises and practicing integrity will lead us to hold our vows and commitments well. Holding our vows and commitments well will lead us to higher realizations and attainments.Actually, practicing integrity and holding our vows firmly stem from compassion for all mother sentient beings.

    Thank you Rinpoche for presenting the importance of integrity and holding our vows in such an unmistakably clear and logical manner for the benefit of all of us.

  3. Cheryl Craig on Aug 20, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    I love this teaching setting.
    Thank you for this pure teaching on the the Vows and how integrity plays it’s important role.
    Remembering the benefit from keeping the Vows from Lord Buddha is inspiring. I appreciate that reminder.
    I appreciate the reminder that Practice Integrity is very important… Holding our vows comes from honoring the goal to help others.
    Positive merit is dedicated to the enlightenment of all sentient Beings. But that cannot happen if we do not hold with honor, the vows.
    YES- Honor and integrity help us accomplish the higher attainments.
    Thank You for your integrity!

  4. Nicholas on Aug 21, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Thanks Rinpoche for this wonderful teaching.

    Honoring our words/promises is really important and I feel that it is the basis of any relationship (i.e family, friends, husband/wife, children, colleagues, etc…..)

    Just like what Rinpoche said, people will just leave us if we break our promises continuously.
    We can’t even help ourselves don’t have to mention others.

    Keeping our promises, honor our word is so important and even a basis for us to do anything.
    If people trust us we are able to accomplish so many things to help others and people will want join us together to benefits more people.

    It’s also the basis in holding our vows for higher practices and realization.

    For the children, it’s important to set a good example from young. For them to practice at the early age will make them habituate and as part of their daily attitude. How wonderful.

    Almost everything starting from this quality.

    Thanks to Rinpoche again for this precious teaching.

  5. henry ooi on Aug 21, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    Thank you, Rinpoche, for this teaching. The natural setting for this is a change from the norm from Kechara House gompa.

    I shall direct friends and people who ask about the why, how and when of holding Buddhist vows by going to Rinpoche’s blog and You tube.

  6. Chin Fei on Aug 22, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for giving such a short but invaluable dharma teaching with all the natural setting- the river, boat, shops, people running around.. It’s indeed dharma on the go! It teaches us whenever we are, dharma should not be forgotten. Even we’re on holiday.

    Everybody knows what does integrity mean, but how many do really apply it to themselves? Bad habituations arise from our ignorance, desire, negative thoughts etc..Taking vows is one of the methods for us to transform our negative habituations to positive. How people treat you is kinda like a reflection of how you treat others, what you’re experiencing right now is much to do with the cause. If you believe in cause and effect.

    Body, speech and mind have to go aligned. No point we read and understand Lamrim or any dharma teachings and don’t apply those teachings into actions. You lose respect from others if you keep giving empty promises and don’t fulfill it.

  7. Uncle Eddie on Aug 23, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    We have been propelled into a cycle of suffering by our delusions and the actions they create, known as Karma. As a result, we spend our lives enduring all sorts of ups and downs, in trouble and confusion. When we are able to eliminate delusions and Karma by realising the natural purity of our mind, total peace can follow, and thus we can gain the complete freedom from the cycle of sufferings. Like our Guru has constantly taught, if we can do good deeds, such as saving the lives of animals under threat of death and undertake serious practice of Dharma, the condition necessary for gaining a good rebirth, or at least to plant the seedsfor a favourable future rebirth is sown. At this auspicious juncture as said by our honourable Dalai Lama, when we are free of obstacles to hearing and practicing the Dharma, we must not let this rare opportunity passed away! Thank you, Rinpoche for your kind concern and always caring attitude for your invaluable teachings.mablici

  8. yek yee on Aug 24, 2011 at 1:00 am

    Dear Rinpoche,
    Thank you so much for the teachings shared to us. It is wonderful teaching. After listen to the teaching like self-reflection to myself. Thank you!!!

  9. Sock Wan on Aug 24, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Integrity is important in our daily life even if we are not spiritual. We tend not practice when it is not in our convenience.

    But with spiritual practice we learn to be consistent in putting good virtues into practice. Thus, making us a better person as time goes by.

  10. Julia Tan on Jul 7, 2012 at 2:25 am

    I have been in the jewelry business for years. Knowing that integrity is very important in the jewelry deal because people in the same industry will trust each other or their customers for millions of stock with just their words. This is integrity. But in the younger generation, words has been taken lightly. Hence now the culture is like “no money no deal”. This is just an example. I think it has become our attitude which we do not see the value of our words. Most of the time we are trying to get away from problems and do not want to push ourselves to even keeping a simple promise.

  11. benji on Mar 27, 2013 at 10:57 am

    Thank you very much, Rinpoche – your precious teaching on integrity and vows puts many important issues in perspective. “Kamsiah che-che!”

  12. Charmaine@MBF on Mar 27, 2013 at 2:51 pm

    Thank you for sharing this wonderful talk on Integrity Rinpoche.

    When we have no integrity, when we can’t honor our words, loneliness creeps in, leading to eventual sadness & isolation. People would not want to be around us.

    Fact: When we have integrity & keep our promises(Eg to:Family,Friends,Spouse,Children,Co-workers etc.) and abide by our refuge vows and take them seriously, others will respect, like us & love to be around us.

    I’m definitely looking forward to the day when i take my refuge vows through you Rinpoche. _/\_

    Please do take great care of yourself Rinpoche & hope You’re feeling better now.

    Tayata om bekandze bekandze maha bekandze Radza Samudgate soha

  13. Andrew Boon on Mar 27, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    The very thing that we all want is to be respected and looked up to… However we fail to earn it. A simple way is to have integrity and to keep our promises. It seems “easy” but why most of us cannot seem to keep to that is quite bizarre.

    Perhaps its conditioning and from a lifetime (or lifetimes) of habituation and “taking” that we forget the fundamental “rule”, that we need to earn it.

    So start now… start keeping those promises and have integrity… in the long run we WILL benefit from it.

  14. Martin on Mar 27, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    The importance of having integrity applies overall and provides benefits not only on a secular and practical level but also on a spiritual level. Rinpoche has always stressed the importance of keeping our word so as to develop a good habit that will facilitate attainments though the successful practice of higher practices. Both Zong Rinpoche and Tsem Rinpoche have said that if we were to accomplish our higher meditations and practices, it can only be by the keeping of our vows.

    So if we are not in the habit of keeping our word as are quite lackadaisical about it as a matter of habit, how can we expect to suddenly be able to keep our vows. Both the determination to keep our vows and keeping our word comes from having integrity. A good indication of how ready we are to take the Bodhisattva vows and tantric vows is how much integrity we have in keeping our word of honour presently.

    This is a great video and should go a long way towards explaining why it is important for Rinpoche that all his students keep their word. At the most basic level Rinpoche is already training us and building foundations for higher our practices.

  15. Sharon Saw on Mar 28, 2013 at 8:06 am

    “My word is my bond” seems a sadly archaic phrase today. Now we need contracts to ensure that people keep to their agreements. Trust and reliability is something that we should develop – whether in Dharma or Samsara. When we keep our word – our promises – then people will trust us and respect us. When we keep breaking promises, people get disappointed and if we are in Dharma, people will even think negatively about Dharma practitioners – and wonder why do we break promises. People who love you will forgive you once or twice but when it happens over and over and over again, they will stop even asking you because your word means nothing.

    Integrity is a vital quality to have and is amply described here why. In Dharma, it is in relations to the vows and commitments we should keep in order to receive higher practices which lead to higher attainments. However, caveat emptor: “if you’re gonna go on a speedboat, if you’re gonna go really quick, if you have an accident, it’s gonna be a more severe accident as opposed to a rowboat that’s not going very fast.”

  16. Erickksiow on Mar 28, 2013 at 8:34 pm

    Integrity is so important in our living life, when we said something out, we must DO IT and show the results.

    Thank You Rinpoche for the important teachings.

    Best Regards : Eric kksiow

  17. David Lai on Mar 28, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    This is a wonderful talk at a most exotic of locations. Rinpoche looked healthier at that time. I like the fact that the vows and words of honor can restrict us from harming ourselves and if we practice it with a lot of sincerity and awareness for others, it can be a part of us. The vows are meant to bring us to reach a certain state of mind where our priority is that of others and not ourselves. All of us definitely have very strong morality.

    At the moment, our morality and integrity is channeled towards our comfort and selfish needs but that can be changed as we take on the vows and enact the vows through our practice and keeping of promises and commitments. At the moment, this teaching comes at a timely period when everyone is busy with projects and conflicting interests, we can sometimes lose track of what are our priorities. Whatever it is, all our actions should have to be geared towards fulfilling of our vows and commitments. That’s of topmost priority for now.

  18. So Kin Hoe on Mar 28, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for giving us a precious teaching about having integrity, holding our vows, keeping promises and complete every committed items within timelines. Having integrity is the foundation of everything in both spiritual and secular practices. We need to make ourselves trusted before we expect people to trust us.

  19. wansan on Mar 28, 2013 at 11:18 pm

    Thank You Rinpoche for giving this teaching at the floating market in Thailand. Such a wonderful place! And invaluable teaching!
    Integrity does play a very important role in our everyday life. Without integrity, the world will not be as beautiful as we see it now. How we treat people is exactly how people will treat us. In that case, if we always break our promises then we shouldn’t be angry at those who break their promises to you. But most of us do not think that way. Like what Rinpoche says, what you send out is what you attract. So don’t blame others but yourself. Breaking someone else’s promises seems like a tiny bit thing, but in fact it isn’t. It shows the way you carry yourself and how your character is. By having integrity, many things can be done easily like holding our vows and commitments.
    Once again, thank you Rinpoche and May you have good and stable health.
    wansan

  20. Joy on Mar 30, 2013 at 12:17 am

    Integrity also mean applying our refuge vows which many of us often forget. For example: NO HARSH SPEECH… and boy yes… do I know this one well lol. Well, if our very own refuge vows is being compromise for our ego and pride… what do we expect? Why is our happiness being severed by our own self? How we are so self-destructive and don’t even realise it… I know this… I did it before and I am the one cutting myself and then I cry, how funny, how silly, how stupid hu?! Rinpoche has always given us real life logic… all we need to do is try it out… and trust me just follow your GURU’s instructions and everything else will just fall in to place

    And Yes for “some” tragedies, falling down in to that dark pit, sometimes do help to “wake” us up. Then it becomes a blessing in disguise… x

  21. grace (KHJB) on Apr 25, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    Thank you for the teaching, it give me a strong impact on the important of integrity and the purpose of taking vows. this is precious to know the reason and we have to keep it in mind so that we practice it correctly and continuously .

  22. sokun on Apr 26, 2013 at 11:25 pm

    very good I want to know some knowledge from Buddhism

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The Known and unknown are both feared,
Known is being comfortable and stagnant,
The unknown may be growth and opportunities,
One shall never know if one fears the unknown more than the known.
Who says the unknown would be worse than the known?
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We have to be ready to change when we seek a teacher otherwise stay hidden.~Tsem Rinpoche
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15 minutes to watch this will blow your mind: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=55883
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H.H. the current Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche -December 2014
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December 2014-His Holiness Kyabje Pabongka Rinpoche in front of the largest Tsongkapa statue in the world. This Tsongkapa is in Champa Ling Monastery, Chamdo, Tibet. 
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This is the perfect setting of the environment of where I like to live. With trees, blue waters, mountains, green, speckled with flowers. TR
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Nothing can be found without searching for it. Just because others say you can't do it or don't believe in you or you can't see it, doesn't mean it cannot exist. Never give up!~Tsem Rinpoche 
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This Manjushri is in Kechara's publishing wing. Stunning. TR
1 week ago
This Tara is beautiful. Save the pictures. TR
1 week ago
Having dinner with special friends from around the world. We are honored to be with Geshe Konchok Gyeltsen lak. 
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This is very powerful. Share it. TR
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Decemeber 2014-They just finished their Tsongkapa retreat and I am so glad for them. TR
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We have so many mysteries and some can be proven while others not. TR
1 week ago
Amazing and so appropriate for some. 
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This is so true and we have to think about it carefully. 
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This is so true. It makes sense. 
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Good dharma friends explore interesting places together.
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These powerful quotes are timeless and I must read from time to time. It brings sanity, peace and focus. Tsem Rinpoche 
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This is very interesting news. News I thought was not possible. 
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This is good advice. I will do more and more of this as it's time. Tsem Rinpoche
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Good dharma friends go a long way together as they can work together to benefit many beings. Kudos to friends in the Dharma. TR
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Besides Willow Creek, California, this spot in Washington state is another area where many Bigfoot sightings occur frequently. TR
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BREAKING NEWS: India has banned the import of animal tested cosmetics. Coming just few months after they banned cosmetics testing in Indian labs, the import ban now makes India the first cruelty-free cosmetics zone in South Asia. Now it's time for Australia to end cruel cosmetics. My bill has been on the books for months, and the Labor and Liberal parties still haven't come to the table. It's time for action. Join our call to end cruel cosmetics. Visit http://grns.mp/end-cruel-cosmetics
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Celebrity host Li Kim interviews Dato' Wira Eric for Kechara Magazine. Tsem Rinpoche 
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Must go see the movie, very inspiring. Does anyone know where I can find this on DVD? Tsem Rinpoche
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Buddhas for gifts to people who wished to be blessed daily. It is always beneficial to wear a Buddha pendant. Tsem Rinpoche 
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Pastor Seng Piow surprised me with this Vajrapani today. Very beautiful. TR
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A Tara presented to me by caring Beng Kooi. This statue is very special to me because Beng Kooi's motivation is pure and samaya clean. I appreciate this very much. Tsem Rinpoche
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My Uncle Mr. Min Hong Gui in Taiwan. I met him once when we visited Taiwan and he shared much of our family history with me. I was grateful. He is the only sibling of my mother. Tsem Rinpoche 
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Kechara Pastor Dr. Lanse doing last rites and prayers in the hospital for someone who just passed. Om Mani Peme Hung. 
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This is wonderful!
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Beautiful. Please share with other spiritual friends. 
2 months ago
This is one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time! I laughed till I teared..please watch: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=53930
2 months ago
Wait till you see the pictures this photographer caught in portraits in order to evoke some feelings in us: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=53879
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Guess what we did on Mt Rinjani? See: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=53342
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Modern Buddhist Fellowship members joining in celebrations in Kechara.  October 24, 2014
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This is a Cockatoo named Boy. He was in a small cage alone most of the time for 22 years. The owner finally relented and let us rescue Boy and be put in a large huge outdoor aviary with friends and fresh air. He came to us on October 24, 2014. 
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October 24, 2014-Pastor Shin giving a talk in Kechara House. 
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October 24, 2014-Was presented with lots of flowers today. How kind. Tsem Rinpoche 
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Mark Twain once said, “Of all the creatures ever made Man is the most detestable. He’s the only creature that inflicts pain for sport, knowing it to be pain.” ~ From Earthlings, http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/animals-vegetarianism/earthlings.html
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The highest achievements are usually done alone.~Tsem Rinpoche (Sometimes the further you move up and achieve, the less people will be around or unable to keep up. Some cannot understand, accept or wish to do more and they can drop off. Some may wish you well but cannot keep up anyways. The higher your goals, the less most are able to understand or envision. Some may be even against you. But what is important is you stay focused and consistent. After all big achievements are done by only a few and not the majority. Highest achievements are usually done alone or with a very few. Stamina, vision, consistency, focus, care, responsibility and sometimes even a sense of compassion is necessary to achieve anything big. Giving up gets us nowhere, so continuing is a good option. When you make it, some will come back, many will join and the naysayers regret and wished they had stayed. Tsem Rinpoche)
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Since I was a young boy I wished to live in this type of environment. Tsem Rinpoche 
2 months ago
Halloween is my favorite holiday. Everything about it brings good memories. Tsem Rinpoche 
2 months ago
This is my dream home, dream location and a place where I would spiritually grow. Tsem Rinpoche 
2 months ago
"I like doing things that are going to last longer than a minute in the world."~ Christy Turlington
2 months ago
Click on this picture to enlarge and tell me what they are doing? Tsem Rinpoche 
2 months ago
"One isn't necessarily born with courage, but one is born with potential. Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous or honest." ~ Maya Angelou
3 months ago
Mother gorilla's heart- A child fell into the gorilla cage. She broke her arms and legs and she was unconcious. A male gorilla came and tried to hurt her. Luckily, a female gorilla rescued her by chasing other gorillas away not to hurt her. This is an instinct of mother animals that take care of their babies. The mother gorilla climbed the 57 ft wall and took the girl to the zoo officer. The girl was sent to hospital and the doctor cured her. Thanks to mother gorilla's kind heart. -From FB (Please always be kind to animal. Never hurt them, kill them or eat them. Tsem Rinpoche)
3 months ago
October 3, 2014-Karen said there were even people in the Gifts Department of Kechara participating in Blog Chat today. Wonderful to learn. Tsem Rinpoche
3 months ago
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    Socialite becomes a volunteer in Malaysian soup kitchen
    In the Malaysian capital, Ruby Khong devotes her lunch hours delivering food to the needy, even when the tropical heat and humidity make it hard to breathe. "It was always about myself, what I wanted and that continued on for a while until 1994," she says. That year, she was on a quest for spiritual guidance in India and met a Buddhist monk named Tsem Rinpoche. Read more here: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-29986205
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    Watch what Jason Clare said in parliament
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    Super cute attack. Have to watch!!
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    They pump 'things' into poultry to make it look plump and bigger to attract you to buy. Then you eat whatever they've pumped and think how it builds up in your body? Is your taste buds worth it to risk your health? Tsem Rinpoche
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    I just purchased an empty locket from an art store for around $10 and had a nice picture of His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche inserted in the front and His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche inserted on the others side at home. Attached a str...ing and it's good to wear for blessings. Look how beautiful. I am the type, I devote myself to my practice but I remember it is the sole kindness of the guru's teachings. Without the guru there is no dharma at all as I cannot speak to Buddha directly. Tsem Rinpoche
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    I was gifted this wonderful blingy shiny new pen by a spiritual friend. I didn't know Swarovski pens write so smoothly. I am going to enjoy writing with this. Thank you Jessica Pimentel. Tsem Rinpoche
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    Is this the Loch Ness monster?
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    In Kechara Forest Retreat we have a large aviary with many rescued birds and tortoises. We just built a nice pool for them to cool down in. Tsem Rinpoche
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    Rescuing dog in LA river
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  • This is a very inspiring video by Jim Carrey you must see
    This is a very inspiring video by Jim Carrey you must see
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    Dalai Lama watching TV
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    14th Dalai Lama with Mrs.Indira Gandhi , Delhi INDIA 1966
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    The Girl Who Couldn't Cry - Water is Life
    It's really hard to educate a generation of people born in conditions where they take things for granted. A simple slogan campaign that says, "Save water, It's precious" isn't sticky enough to make inroads. That's exactly where this video steps in: to make people realize how precious water actually is. A brilliant video that follows the heartbreaking story of a young girl that cannot cry. Sounds like fiction? Sadly, it is not.
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    8 months ago
  • The appreciation shown here is so deep and touching.
    The appreciation shown here is so deep and touching.
    Dear friends, See this incredible video. This chimp was found in captivity for many years. Dr Jane Goodall released him into the wild. Look how he comes back to thank her with deep apprecition. It's amazing. Animals have such strong feelings of pain and happiness just like us. We should never hurt them and share with others to not hurt them. Tsem Rinpoche http://www.tsemrinpoche.com
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    Aki drinking some water in the aviary
    Aki is a rescued bird, he now lives in Kechara Forest Retreat Aviary
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    Jamyang enjoying some fresh corn
    Jamyang is one of our rescue birds that live in Kechara Forest Retreat Aviary
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  • The Cute Mumus Practising Dog Orchestra at Kechara Forest Retreat
    The Cute Mumus Practising Dog Orchestra at Kechara Forest Retreat
    Today the Mumus (dogs) decided to do a dog orchestra rehearsal together with the Kechara Forest Retreat (KFR) dogs.
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    Mumu, Oser and Dharma running and having a good time. I love seeing them playing. Tsem Rinpoche
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    Mumus running at Kechara Forest Retreat
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    Kechara Forest Retreat panorama, September 2013
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    The mumus having outdoor evening stroll!!!
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  • Must see video from Rajendra on our disciplined dogs
    Must see video from Rajendra on our disciplined dogs
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Love can be interesting as it's never what you expect.~ H. E. Tsem Tulku Rinpoche_PB
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Sometimes you need to speak up & sometimes you don't. ~ H. E. Tsem Tulku Rinpoche_PB
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Sweden 20,184
Switzerland 23,726
United Arab Emirates 13,941
Japan 16,207
Greece 14,280
South Africa 13,461
Hungary 14,499
Sri Lanka 13,039
Vietnam 14,956
Ireland 13,297
Bulgaria 12,420
Poland 14,890
Pakistan 10,408
Saudi Arabia 9,156
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