Facebook Answered: Vajrayogini’s Sacred Initiation

Jan 1, 2014 | Views: 4,908
Share this article

Dear Students and Friends,

I would like to share with you the transcript about a talk I did on Vajrayogini in response to the Facebook question: What are the Commitments After Receiving Vajrayogini’s Sacred Initiation.  

I hold Vajrayogini’s practice very close to my heart, which is why I have a dedicated section on Vajrayogini in my blog. I am so fortunate and humbled to have received Her practice from my Guru which is H.H. Kyabje Zong Rinpoche, who had received it from His Guru, H.H.Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche, who in turn received it from H.H. Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche… so whatever I said here is not made up by me but based on what these great masters had taught. It was Pabongkha Rinpoche who recommended and promoted the Vajrayogini practice as a main meditational deity. Vajra Yogini is highly treasured and practiced within the Gelug tradition.

Vajrayogini is a very very sacred practice. In the past no layman could see Her, not even monks. Due to the commitments involved, the Guru does not simply give Her initiations to just any student. So it is very rare to receive Vajrayogini, but She is very powerful and relevant for the people of this age. Vajrayogini is a tantric practice, it is the swift path. It is NOT a path for those who want a shortcut because they are lazy and want the easy way out. No.

So in order to qualify to receive Vajrayogini’s practice, the first thing you need to do is to do your homework! Do you really want it?? Only students who work hard for it, are committed, keep their promises, don’t make excuses and show sincere practice through their actions may qualify to receive her practice. You cannot win a marathon if you never trained for it.  So if you want it then you should start training now… don’t give yourself excuses not to… She will bring you to Kechara Paradise within 7 lifetimes. I have briefly explained what the “warm up exercises” for Vajrayogini practice are here. You must prepare yourself ahead of time well, starting now for this practice.

If you care to receive Vajrayogini, do read carefully what I had said about the commitments in the video below… I have roughly explained what tantric initiation it involves as well. It is important for you to have some understanding about it. Read it, contemplate on it and strive towards it.  I wish you good luck. If you have received Her, then please listen to what I share with you here. Important.

Tsem Rinpoche









Facebook question: What are the Commitments After Receiving Vajra Yogini’s Sacred Initiation



This is in regards to the Facebook post on sacred Vajrayogini’s initiation, and what are the commitments afterwards.

Some people have this idea that they don’t have to ground themselves, learn up, and make themselves very stable in the preliminary practices and preliminary teachings, that they feel that tantra is the fastest path, so therefore it bypasses everything else and once they go into tantra they receive the magic initiation from the Lama on the throne and they get the sacred, secret mantra and they just go into their rooms and they recite, that everything will transform, everything will change, everything will be overnight success. Well, it doesn’t really happen that way and that’s not the way tantra was actually presented.

Unfortunately, some people throughout the world have advertised tantra the wrong way, in the first place. The wrong way is to advertise that it is the fastest path, the quickest path, and that if you just rely on tantra alone, you can achieve everything and nothing else is much needed, that it just bypasses. So as a result you get a lot of people running for initiations, running for these secret practices, running for the sacred, running for everything that is tantric in nature.

Well, there are people out there who are qualified to give tantra and they practice, they do get results, some quickly, but most of us including myself are not. So therefore what I like to elucidate is here using Vajrayogini’s tantra as an example, but it definitely applies to Kalachakra and Yamantaka, Guhyasamaja, Cittamani Tara, Heruka, Gyalwa Gyatso Chenrezig, it applies to all of those. And what happens is, during the tantric initiation, in short, I can’t explain too much for those of you who don’t have initiation, as I would be breaking my commitments, but in short, during tantric initiation, you have the preparatory initiation which is 1 day, the first day, then you have the actual initiation the next day and during the preparatory initiation you’re supposed to examine to see if any inauspicious signs or dreams or anything happened that should give you a warning that you shouldn’t get this initiation as you are not ready. From the side of the tantra or the initiation there is no fault, from the side of the receiver, sometimes you are not ready.



So therefore, the next day, the second day is the actual initiation. When you receive the initiation, you have to take certain vows, you have to take certain commitments, you have to make certain promises, and those promises and vows and commitments that you take during initiation are extremely important. They are more important for you to gain attainments, for you to get the result from the initiation. The initiation itself is to plant the seeds into your mindstream, but the actual work happens after the initiation, the actual process of gaining attainments happen after the initiation. There are cases where during initiation some people get attainments but those are far and very distant in between. Those you should not rely and hope on, because we have to look at our qualities, do we have Bodhicitta?, Do we have some realization and understanding of shunyata that is manifested in our daily activities, not just an intellectual understanding? So therefore, simply to hope that we will get some attainments from the initiation itself is the hope of a beggar, the hope of a very poor person wishing to buy a huge, big building but they have no money.

So, like that, what’s important is that whatever we have promised during initiation is much more important after initiation and after whether you meet your Lama or not, whether you’re getting special care from your Lama or not, whether your Lama has, is unfortunately passed away or is still living or not, it doesn’t matter, because during initiation, you have taken oaths and commitments and samayas and promises from your Lama as a deity. So during the initiation of Vajrayogini, you don’t visualize your Lama as a human being or a monk or a teacher, or whatever. You visualize it as taking it directly from Vajrayogini. So whether your Lama is hanging around you or is alive or has passed away, makes no difference because actually during initiation, the correct mode of receiving initiation is to think that you have received the Vajrayogini, or in the case of Yamantaka, Yamantaka.



So therefore, Yamantaka is deathless, Vajrayogini is deathless, therefore if your Lama is around or not, if they’re alive or not it doesn’t make any difference. It should not impact your practice whatsoever. So therefore, during your initiation, you have promised several things, many things in fact but let’s put it in a nutshell that’s easier. After one has received the initiation, one should not talk about the initiation to people who are not qualified, who do not know anything. The reason is because, it might give wrong understanding or misunderstanding, and is your understanding enough to share, so we have be careful about that. So not to reveal tantra to people who are not ready and to reveal tantra to people who have taken tantra but who have lost faith or who have not committed…who have…um… kind of not stuck with the Lama and went away, we’re not allowed to share the tantric practices with them anymore. That is not something I made up, this is what it says.

So therefore, everyday in fact after initiation, it is said that if we want to keep our practice very strict, we should not reveal the images of our Yidam. It should be covered away, it should be not be seen by anyone, whether it is a statue or it is a picture. Now my teacher, one of my teachers, Kensur Jampa Yeshe Rinpoche, the Abbot Emeritus of Ganden Shartse told me that if we were to keep a picture of our Yidam because we just like to see the Yidam, we like to make offerings, we like to have something visual there, it is permissible that if we have one original photo, thangka, a representation fully covered and think that this is my Yidam, this is my main Yidam’s image and put it away behind something that no one can see and then have a second picture or second image that is revealed and open, so the second one can be seen by others, that’s what Rinpoche told me, then you won’t be breaking the commitments of keeping it so called secret, alright?

Then you have to do your 21 Vajrasattva mantras daily, so in the Vajrayogini long sadhana it’s already inclusive. So every single day, you must recite the Vajrasattva mantra 21 times according to the tantra that you have received. The reason is because…because we have heavy habituations, it’s very hard for us to keep our commitments totally pure. So when we do Vajrasattva daily, we stop the karma or infraction of our commitments to increase. So the infraction, the karmic consequences of infracting, or the infraction of it will not increase. Then everyday, we must do the 6 session Guru Yoga. The 6 session Guru Yoga, the short one, if we can do the long one, that is the best, the short one written by Kyabje Pabongkha Dorje Chang or Pabongkha Rinpoche is used. So after the Dalai Lama’s initiation, after initiation in Ganden, Sera, Drepung, all of Ganden, Sera, Drepung, Namgyal monastery, all of these great monasteries, all of these great sanghas, all these practitioners, they use the 6 session Guru Yoga as composed by Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche, Pabongkha Dechen Nyingpo in Tibetan and Pabongkha was requested to recite, to uh, compose something short for people who claim they didn’t have time to do the long one. So the short 6 session Guru Yoga you should recite 3 in the morning, 3 at night. If you find that difficult, 6 times per day as and when you like, all right.

And then you have to do tsok twice a month on the Tibetan, on the lunar 10th and 25th, you must do tsok twice a month and if you cannot make it to tsok for a very good reason, then you need to do your Yidam’s mantra, three times more than a normal commitment. So if you promised to do 3, then on tsok day if you cannot make it you do 9, all right? Then the next one is you have to do your mantra every single day, whatever mantra you commit to, if you break it you have to double it, if you break it again you have to double it, if you break it again you have to double it, so if you promise 3, if you break it you have to do 6, if you break it, you do 12, if you break it you do 24, if you break it you have to do 48. So it’s double the amount, not double from the original, okay. So 48 times 2 and so on…so on if you break it. When can you go back to the original? You can go back to the original if you get that initiation again, all right. If you get the same exact initiation again, it doesn’t need to be the same Lama in case if your Lama has passed away, if you have to get the same initiation again and when you swear in for the number, you cannot swear in the original number, you have to swear in the next number. So, if you swore in 3 originally, the next time you have to swear 6. So let me make that clear, the only way you can clear your breaking of the mantras is if you get that initiation again. If you get the initiation again, you cannot promise what you promised the first time. You have to promise double what you have promised the first time. So it’s the second time towards your Vajrayogini initiation, and the first time you promised 3, the second time you have to promise 6, all right?  That is if you are to then from henceforth, you can do the mantra 6 times everyday, and/or more. Of course you should do more, all right?



So uh, next one is, some Lamas ask you to do the short, some Lamas ask you to do the long, some Lamas ask you no mantra, uhh no sadhana, just the mantra, okay. So if you have to do the sadhana everyday of course you do it everyday but that is optional according to what the Lama gave you, but just because you don’t have the commitment, you shouldn’t say “I don’t have to do it.” Because you see, the actual commitment to do is the sadhana, the meditation, the practice, the mantra, Vajrasattva, you know and the 5 Buddha family commitments, the actual practice is the whole thing. So what Lamas are doing now is they’re condensing the commitments everyday, hoping that without the commitment to do it everyday, you will automatically do it anyway. Because if you have to do 10 to become fully enlightened, how could you do 2 every single day to replace the 10 to become enlightened? So if you are supposed to do 10 every single day, you have to do 10 every single day whether you have the commitment or not. For example, if there’s a long sadhana of Vajrayogini for you to do to become enlightened, you got to do the long one. By skipping out on the long one and just doing the short one, you’re not going to get the benefits of the long one. Then you might think why is there a short one. Well, there’s a short one just to keep up the blessings so you overcome your particular problem or obstacle, maybe you’re travelling, maybe you are sick, maybe you’re not well, maybe you have some issues, so it’s just to do for a few days and then you do the long one. Although you don’t have a commitment to do the long one, you should do the long one. If you don’t do it, you don’t break your promise, you don’t break your commitment but neither do you get faster to enlightenment. So therefore, if you are supposed to do 10 things to achieve enlightenment through Vajrayogini’s practice, Yamantaka or Heruka, then you say “Well, I only promised to do two, so I’m gonna do 2 every single day and I’m going to wish for enlightenment through that”.  Well you know, that’s not going to happen, because you promised to do…you promised to do two when you should do ten. So if you promise to do, if you didn’t promise to do 10 it doesn’t meant you shouldn’t do 10, does everybody understand that? Alright I am not being tough on this, I am trying to be very clear, very open and very pragmatic about tantric practice, and this applies to Yamantaka, Heruka, Guhyasamaja, all the other ones, so don’t think this is only for Vajrayogini, alright?

The next one is, you should, before your death, actually, this is what Zong Rinpoche told us before at our initiation, before our death we should in fact have the will and the, create the causes and circumstances and actually finish a full length Vajrayogini retreat with fire puja, with offerings and the full ritual. So before we die, we should think “I will learn up how to do that, I will do that and I will finish it” so that’s very important to do before we die. For any strange reason that we make this wish today and tomorrow we die, well, we didn’t break this commitment if our intent was there to do it. We do break our commitment, thinking “Aiyah, I’m not going to do it, I’m not going to do it, aiyah maybe later, aiyah maybe maybe maybe because you know what? You can kind of fool people around you, but you can’t fool your own karma. You can also play games with your own mind, but you can’t fool your own karma. So therefore, before you pass away, you should, you should finish a full-length Vajrayogini retreat, full mantra count, with full ritual, concluding with a fire puja, alright?

Last but not least, there is a…… there are tantric clothes, tantric ornaments and tantric instruments that everybody is supposed to carry with them, wherever they go, like a vajra and bell and damaru and all that stuff. Wherever you go you should carry that with you. Well, it’s gonna be a little heavy, and it’s going to be a lot, and there are some things like you know, bone dresses, bone ornaments, bone armlets and bone bracelets and bone skirts, I mean, where are we gonna get that today? So what happens is that there is a sheet, there’s a sheet that is available that is drawn out all the tantric ornaments, all the tantric dress and all the tantric offerings that we need is um, kinda drawn out on a sheet and um we can carry that around, alright.? We can carry that sheet around and that would be all right. If there is a big demand on that, I can actually Xerox or I can blog that piece of paper, and I can put it up on my blog site where people can download it and keep that sheet inside their book, not to be seen by others. So therefore, if that’s kept with you then you keep the tantric commitment of keeping all these items near you that are auspicious and that are necessary for your attainments, alright? So therefore if there is no request for that, you can get it from somewhere else or you have it already that is wonderful. So therefore, in short, after initiation, after initiation, post initiation is much more, much more important than the actual initiation. So we need to get a very good grounding in teachings such as the Bodhisattvacharyavatara, the Wheel of Sharp Weapons, especially the Lamrim, the Three Principle Paths, um if we can, if we can, Ornament of Clear Realization by Maitreya. We should study up on our tantric vows, that’s very important and afterwards, we have to hold our tantric vows. That is one very strong commitment. We should read our tantric vows daily or weekly till we are totally familiar with them. We should read and study up on our bodhisattva vows.  Dagpo Rinpoche in France has written a beautiful book on the Bodhisattva vows and everybody should get that and take a read and study it. It is very clear and very precise.



So therefore, uh, after initiation, we should hold our vows very strongly. We should hold our tantric and bodhisattva vows as if we protect our own eyes and if we don’t hold our vows and we do everything else, we’re not gonna get many attainments. You know, sometimes when we get angry or sometimes when we’re not happy or sometimes when we’re dissatisfied, we want to get someone back, or we want to perhaps, say something or do something and we’re satisfied from getting that…getting that person back, well you have to think, is it worth it to get this person back and sacrifice my Vajrayogini practice? Is it worth it to get this person back or get this situation back or just to win or look good or have a face, and then sacrifice my Yamantaka, Guhyasamaja or whatever practice I am doing? Because when you do that you kinda break your vows. So you’re kinda selling out on your tantric practice for that one person. Is that one person and winning over them more important than holding your vows? Because sometimes we get lost in the heat of the moment and the passion and what’s happening, and we have to always think that whatever we say and do, whether it is wrathful or peaceful or you know whatever we say or do, we gotta think it through fast, and if we cannot think it through that shows us that we’re not ready for tantra. We got to think it through fast, clean and clear, and then do what we need to do, because we know clearly what we are doing. We can’t say later “Oh I was angry, sorry I didn’t mean it that way” the deed has been done and the vow has been broken. So therefore, in order to look good over someone and not to lose face, you don’t want to admit you’re wrong, you don’t want to apologize, you don’t want to, you know, come out with the truth, you don’t want to say something that might mean something else to somebody else because you want to look good, you don’t want to lose face, is that worth it? Is that worth it over your vows and your practice? If it’s not, then let the other person win. Very simple.

So therefore, after, (I’m looking at my notes here), after tantric commitment, sorry, after tantric initiation, once you hold your vows, bodhisattva and tantric vows, once you do your Vajrasattva every single day, 21 times minimum or more, you have to do your 6 session Guru Yoga, you have to do your tsok twice a month, and if you can’t do it, you gotta do your mantra triple, you have to do your daily mantra recitation or more, and you have to do, up to you, what your Lama has given to you, your short or long sadhana. But let me repeat again. just because your Lama didn’t ask you to do it, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do it because that is part of the path. That’s what we should be doing to become enlightened, otherwise why did we get the initiation in the first place, okay? And before death, we need to do a full length retreat of Vajrayogini, completed by a fire puja, sealed by a fire puja. How do we do that? If we don’t know how we can get someone to help us, okay? And we should keep our tantric instruments and if we don’t have those then we should keep those on a piece of paper drawn out, because whether they are drawn out or 3D, doesn’t specify so drawn out is fine, okay?



Remember, all these things, post initiation practice for the rest of our life is more important to gain attainments. Once you get an initiation, you don’t have to run for any other initiations. You don’t have to run for many tantric deities. Lama Tsongkhapa recommended, [Tibetan phrase] Guyhasamaja, Heruka, Yamantaka. He recommended for us as his disciples, to do all 3 tantric practices because they complement each other and for these degenerate times, they are very, very beneficial. But you know, as times become even more degenerate after hundreds of years after Lama Tsongkhapa has gone into parinirvana, well, Pabongkha Rinpoche recommended all of us to do Vajrayogini, solely and he kind of said that “Look, this is the synthesis of all the Buddhas. This one counters all the negative attachments arising from desire we have during the kaliyuga. My first teacher, Kensur Lobsang Tharchin Rinpoche, Kensur Lobsang Tarchin has passed away, his incarnation is back, he is from Sera Mae Monastery and he told us, this was his exact words, when I was like 14 and we received the initiation from him at Howell, New Jersey, great master, great Tibetan master and he said “You guys are very lazy, and for lazy people like you who want big attainments, Vajrayogini is the perfect deity.” That’s what he said to all of us, okay. That’s not what Tsem Rinpoche says because Tsem Rinpoche doesn’t know much, but this is what great masters, my Gurus have said and I have full confidence in what they say so I sit here talking to you with full confidence not because I know so much, but because these came from the mouth of very learned masters, so I dare say with a lot of confidence. So therefore, Kensur Lobsang Tarchin Rinpoche said that this would be the perfect Yidam for lazy people. When he said lazy means attached, people who make excuses for not enough time, people who say they don’t have enough knowledge, they don’t have enough merits, well, this includes lazy because his meaning of lazy is very, very pervasive. He is very skillful. He is very compassionate. So therefore, I am not calling you lazy, but I am saying that we are all inundated with samsara and so if we want to combine all the deities into one, Vajrayogini would be totally perfect, totally wonderful for this day and age, all right?



So this is the kind of commitments we need to keep after Vajrayogini and I want to share that with you on this video.  I wish you good luck and I really wish that all of you would pursue the Vajrayogini path, and I wish that you would find a qualified master, not me, a qualified master and go and learn and listen. You see, I don’t see my job as being a Guru. I see my job as someone that is pushing you towards finding a Guru, pushing you towards learning the Dharma. I hope inspiring you towards doing more in your life to do Dharma wherever you are. I’m not here to become the Guru of the world, I’m not here to be the master of the world.  I am not here to be the maha teacher of the planet. I have no intention and I don’t have the qualification, and I wouldn’t want to be in that kind of position even if I was qualified but I’m kind of here to let you know that I have learnt a lot of things in the last 30 years. I’ve sat at the feet of great Lamas, I’m from Ganden, and uh, well I thought I’d share that with all of you. I thought I’d share that you should go and find your teachers. You should go and rekindle your relationship with your teachers, keep up your relationship with your teachers and be very devoted and find one practice, whether that is Vajrayogini or you know, Yamantaka or Heruka, doesn’t really matter. Find that one practice, go all the way and don’t run for a lot of initiations. After a lot of initiations, unless you are really qualified, you get confused, you’ll have more to do and you won’t understand, I’ve talked to hundreds of people who have got into that situation, alright? One Lama, one practice, one Yidam, one commitment and go all the way with it, and I wish all of you luck, I truly do and I want you to attain something great within Vajrayogini’s practice or any of your practices. Good luck, thank you.             


Transcribed by Joey Wong

Proofread by Lily Tan and Yee Ling



Download the Mp3 for Facebook Question: What are the Commitments After Receiving VajraYogini Sacred Initiation?

Audio clip: Adobe Flash Player (version 9 or above) is required to play this audio clip. Download the latest version here. You also need to have JavaScript enabled in your browser.


For more Dharma teachings, visit the Audio Teachings page.



Download beautiful Vajrayogini images here.



Tags: , , , , ,

Please support us so that we can continue to bring you more Dharma:

If you are in the United States, please note that your offerings and contributions are tax deductible. ~ the tsemrinpoche.com blog team

Share this article

87 Responses to Facebook Answered: Vajrayogini’s Sacred Initiation


Kindly note that the comments or posts given by third parties in the comment section below do not represent the views of the owner and/or host of this Blog, save for responses specifically given by the owner and/or host. All other comments or posts or any other opinions, discussions or views given below under the comment section do not represent our views and should not be regarded as such. We reserve the right to remove any comments/views which we may find offensive but due to the volume of such comments, the non removal and/or non detection of any such comments/views does not mean that we condone the same.

We do hope that the participants of any comments, posts, opinions, discussions or views below will act responsibly and do not engage nor make any statements which are defamatory in nature or which may incite and contempt or ridicule of any party,individual or their beliefs or to contravene any laws.

  1. Jacinta Goh on Jan 9, 2014 at 8:59 pm

    I still remember one of verses written somewhere in this blog- something big can come from something small. Keeping our daily commitments perhaps is the very first step. The commitments for Lady Vajrayogini may seems impossible for many ( me included, even to maintain daily guru yoga is a daunting task) but from the very depth of my heart, I pray that more and more will have the chances to be initiated and committed to Her practices in future! Only through this, Buddhadharma can be preserved!

  2. Mavis on Jan 6, 2014 at 11:28 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing, the “swiftest” path requires a lot of commitments and hard work. This post helped me to reflect the state of mind I am in or how “lazy” I am in on a scale. Being in a contemplative state won’t work until there is action…

  3. Low Khjb on Jan 4, 2014 at 11:09 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for the valuable sharing on Vajrayogini practice.Your explanation is indeed detail and it is very clear that only those who are really committed and discipline could attain the benefit of such practice.I know I am not ready for it.But I am very thankful for a least gaining a glimpse of such a sacred practice.

  4. LT Loo on Jan 3, 2014 at 9:51 pm

    How timely this teaching appear again just as we had returned from pilgrimage trip in Nepal visiting various prominent Vajrayogini temples.
    understanding how contemporary Vajrayogini practice passed down from Tilopa to Naropa and to our own lineage master….
    This concise teaching from Rinpoche is to be taken as personal instruction to us who wish for Vajrayogini practice in future.

  5. Soon Huat (Penang) on Jan 3, 2014 at 12:01 am

    Thank You Rinpoche for sharing such detail teaching of vows and commitment of getting Higher Tantric Initiation. It is not easy of holding the vows and commitment, at least for me. With advice from my Guru, Tsem Tulku Rinpoche, I am willing to working hard to prepare myself for initiation of Vajrayogini Tantra, even tough, I still have doubt whether practicing Amitabha Buddha mantra to go to Western Pure Land is more promising in this life or practicing Vajrayogini Tantra to go to Kechara Pure land is more promising in this life. I just follow my Guru’s advice and teaching. I have trust in my Guru.

  6. Choongs on Jan 2, 2014 at 3:15 am

    Thank you Rinpoche for guiding us along the path to enlightenment. It may take many lifetimes and hence upholding the vows etc. for lifetimes too but as they say, a journey begins with a single step.

  7. KH Ng on Jan 2, 2014 at 12:42 am

    Thank You Rinpoche for reposting this video and transcript on the sacred Vajrayogini practice. I take it as an auspicious sign that this is reposted after my pilgrimage to the sacred sites of Vajrayogini in Nepal. As advised, we need to commit to our daily practice of the Dharma, study and familiarize/practice the Lamrim, the Boddhicharyavatara, the Boddhisattva vows, the tantric vows and others sacred texts as advised. Basically, whatever the Guru has instructed, we need to go all the way.

    I take this as personal advise. Rinpoche has time and time again been very kind to us all and keep reminding us? I rejoice and at the same time regret that You need to do this.

    I will go all the way.

    With folded hands!

  8. Lester on Apr 26, 2013 at 9:01 am

    Dear Rinpoche, your talk on Vajrayogini is indeed inspiring. Nevertheless, I realise that there is a contradictory logic in Buddhist practice which baffles me for a long time, that is, in order to receive and accomplish in the Tantra that will eradicate all our worst problems, we must sustain and complete our preliminaries. On the other hand, for sentient beings of inferior capacity like myself, the worst problems in me, such as extreme lust and anger, would have destroyed my efforts in the preliminaries before I can even half complete them! It’s like creating with one hand and destroying the creation with the other. Is Vajrayogini Tantra an ideal, meaning the efficacy of which only manifests for the accomplished, or is it real, that so long as one aspires towards practising the deity the effects will manifest?? Thanks and with metta.

    • Lester on Apr 26, 2013 at 9:10 am

      I would very much like to know the answer from either the pastors or yourself. I have been engaged in several Buddhist practices for more than two decades, but none can solve my problems. I have been practising very hard, the Buddhas are my witnesses. Gaden Lhagyama and thirty five Buddhas took away my problems away for one year, after which, everything returned. This is also the main reason why some of my friends turned to other religions because they do not believe that Buddhism is realistic and humanly possible. Your reply to my question will not only save me, an insignificant dust, but the innumerable drowning beings. Please notify me through my email, if its convenient for you, if you reply. Thanks and with my highest regards.

      • Lester on Apr 26, 2013 at 9:13 am

        Btw, it will be wonderful if this discussion page could have email notification after each reply made, because inquirers could be forgetful about where and what they have posted. Thanks.

  9. Wan Wai Meng on Jun 25, 2012 at 12:10 am

    There is so much in here, so much information and guidance from Rinpoche on tantric matters and what it will be all about when we actually have taken the initiation. Rinpoche is so kind to provide so much information to us non initiates.

  10. Andrew Chiam on May 10, 2012 at 1:15 pm

    Hi Rinpoche,
    This is a very detailed explanation on the practice and commitment of the tantric path. One things thta I realized after reading is thta the initiation does not come by easy, one needs to uphold and firm on the daily commitment. The training for receiving her teaching in the future should start now. Well, it’s still a long way for me though, needs to improve on abiding by commitments and promises. Thanks Rinpoche for the constant reminder
    and never giving up hopes on us. Thanks You.

  11. wah ying on May 9, 2012 at 11:30 pm





  12. pat on May 7, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this lovely information which i have gained much understanding and knowledge… of the importance of holding vows & commitments and keeping promises… i will begin with discplining myself from now on to keep them well ..

  13. lanse on May 6, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for such a clear explanation about what we should do before and after receiving Tantric Initiation.

    After reading the whole teaching, the key messages I got are we have to do our preliminary practices well on a daily basis and to keep our commitments under whatever circumstances with no excuses. To put it another way, we have to start letting go of our attachments because if we still very much hold on to our attachments, it will be very hard for us to achieve the above.

    And, if we can’t do that, then we are not qualify to receive Vajrayogini initiation. Or even if we receive it, it may not lead us to achieve any higher attainments.

    Now I understand better why Rinpoche always stresses so much on keeping vows and commitments. Whatever Rinpoche asks us to do is to prepare us to receive higher teachings.

    Thank you.

  14. mitra on May 5, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    dear rinpoche, thank you for giving explantion about the tantric commitment. from this post i have a better understand.

  15. James Long on May 5, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    I thank Rinpoche for teaching and preparing us since day one for Vajrayogini. I remembered Rinpoche said before Vajrayogini practices, the commentary, only 40% of the practise is being written down, the rest of 60% has to receive from our Guru. During initiations, we are not allow to write down notes but to remember all the steps and visualization by heart. Many times Rinpoche has been training us to remember the task, or instruction without writing it down and always asked us to repeat to make sure, in fact this is also a preparation for us in the future.

    Last time when we have the new news assignment from Rinpoche, which we need to send Rinpoche 5 new news per day, and of we missed it, we need to do double the next day. It is also to train us to keep our commitment.

    I was very lucky to be given the chance to learn up how to paint statue and insert mantra to statue. Many times Rinpoche will give us chance to paint or make jewelry for his Vajrayogini statue to create the strong karmic link with Vajrayogini.

    Thank you Rinpoche.

  16. Girlie on May 5, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    Many people have taken initiation without first understanding what is expected of them. They were not ready as they did not know the commitments.
    This is so useful to read again and again to prepare ourselves for what it entails.

  17. Tenzin Kyabsum on May 5, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Thank you for sharing this blessed teaching, Rinpoche. I must have done something right in my past silly lives to be able to meet the Dharma and Rinpoche in this life. This blog post is so sacred and precious! So, what I understand is: Rinpoche is tirelessly preparing us for the practice in future if we are fortunate/committed enough to receive it.
    Rinpoche mentioned that we need to be fully committed and diligent in our daily sadhana because if we can’t commit to our daily sadhana, we definitely cannot commit to the higher tantric practice. So in a way, our commitment to the daily sadhanas is like a ‘warm-up’ to prepare us for the ‘Olympics’which is the higher tantric practice if we are fortunate enough to receive it from Rinpoche. Reading back what I’ve typed thus far, I can only see commitment, commitment, and more commitments. The responsibilities shouldn’t intimidate us instead it should be a driving force to push us further and do more.
    May I stay diligent and committed in my daily sadhanas so that I will be to receive Her sacred practice in near future.
    Thank you very much Rinpoche.
    Much care,Jess

  18. tenzin llhamo on May 5, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Because of our negative habituations we have lost so much time. NOW is the time to stop it and buckle up on our laziness and selfish reasons. Start now so that we can create the causes to receive at least 1 of the initiation above if not in this life, next and so on.

    This post should be able to remind us again… Integrity!

    I am so fortunate to be able to know so much about tantric practices from Rinpoche here on the blog. The part where we have to carry the tantric sacred items with us all the time. Double our missed sessions. Hold our vows with much love and respect.

    May we, the LAZY ones, have the cause to receive Vajrayogini’s initiation. It may not be easy but I know we CAN!

  19. wan on May 5, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    i came across many people who want to receive higher initiation as they thought it is very special and powerful but they do not know that in order to receive initiation one have to hold vows, fulfill commitments, have consistency, integrity etc.

    With this beneficial knowledge, we will know how to prepare and work towards it to achieve the ultimate goal in our life.

  20. fang on May 4, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    dear Rinpoche,

    thank you for a very precise and concise teaching. exactly what a noob like me need. there are a lot to read and digest; i forsee going thru the post quite a few more times before grasping the details. (even that it will be with the help of more senior students and Rinpoche).

    i’ve just came back from a session of refuge briefing – there, Pastor Ngeow reminded us that keeping a vow is very important. but it should not be seen as something we ought to be fearful of. it’s a guideline, not a set of rules. with a different mindset and the right motivation, keeping to the vows will eventually become second nature. that would be my personal first step. Vajrayogini seems so far away for me right now, but without the attempt of a first step, one would never get there. so… here goes :)

    much respect + care,

  21. Erickksiow on May 4, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Thanks for the Teachings, Rinpoche.

    Yes, to holding a vows and to holding our commitment to our GURU is very important. And i am believed before we learn the highest ( Tantric Practice ), we must have our own foundation fist, Even to build a Building. Everything is start from Basic, without any foundation base we cant go Higher.

    Regards : Erickksiow

  22. abby on May 4, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Dear Rinpoche,

    In my life there is no Tantric practice or whatever practice to get enlightened, to get rid of all the sufferings until I meet You. And now I get to know, or even have the chance to practice Tantra if I make effort or go all the way in Dharma. This is all because of Rinpoche.

    From Rinpoche’s teaching I understand the importance of holding vows and commitments. Even from a circular level, with discipline, I found that I always get a better result and achieve more! I do better under ‘pressure’ which comes from holding my commitments. This sounds stupid and I admit that never a moment in my life, I treat a commitment very seriously, I just do what I want to do or I think I must/important to do. End up Im here to practice Dharma, practice how to hold vows and commitments. I am happy for myself, as now I know how important to keep my words and not letting others down. Im happy for myself that I am a better person with awareness of this.

    To me, awareness is the first step to really transform myself. Thank you Rinpoche for tirelessly teach us about this.


  23. Carmen Koo on May 4, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    Dear Rinpoche,

    Thank you for this post. Whilst reading this post, what striked me was the importance of integrity and keeping promises from Rinpoche’s other post titled “This is Important To Know” (http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/inspiration-worthy-words/this-is-important-to-know-for-your-life.html). I kept on thinking about the correlation of that to Tantric practices, because Tantric Practices requires you to keep committed to the vows on a daily basis, to do the practices everyday, to transform. And if one can’t even hold promises or have any integrity to succeed in the present, then how can one even begin to hold the vows and promises that come with tantric initiations.

    Many people run to receive initiations, thinking once received, that’s it, they’re saved. Even within my family, people tell me how many initiations they’ve been to etc, but reading this post gave me a lot of knowledge – that you don’t need that many initiations to gain attainments. IF you can’t even do ONE well, why the need to have so many and not be able to do all flawlessly? Don’t see any logic in that.

    From what I learn it is not the initiation itself that would give you the attainments, it is what you do after the initiation. The attainment and blessings comes from one holding their vows well with the yidam, who is one with the Lama. Like how one can gain blessings from a sangha member because of the power from the vows they hold daily, it shows how powerful it is when one holds their commitments especially their tantric commitments.

    Rinpoche is skilfully training and preparing us to follow instructions, to keep our commitments and promises everyday, and to be diligent and have integrity in all that we do – and all these are the qualities to build a foundation to receive tantric practices. When we are ready, it wouldn’t be so daunting, and keeping the promises would come second nature for us. Thank you Rinpoche.


  24. Adrian cho on May 4, 2012 at 2:55 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this Vajrayogini Sacred Initiation, that I can know more deeply and gain more knowledge.
    It is so meaningful and really appreciates it much.
    We are so fortunate that we have all this explanation.
    Thank You Rinpoche :)

  25. yurie on May 4, 2012 at 10:43 am

    thank you for the meaningful teaching.

  26. Cynthia L on May 4, 2012 at 4:12 am

    Dear Rinpoche,

    Thank you for taking the time to share with us the commitments upon receiving Vajrayogini initiation. It’s very easy for us to want the initiation thinking that it’s a fast track to Enlightenment. There’s fast track to Enlightenment but there’s no shortcut to Enlightenment even if Vajrayogini practice is suitable for lazy, attached people. Starts by being lazy and attached but doesn’t mean we have to stay this way forever.

    Now I will constantly NOT only remind myself WHY I want Vajrayogini, but what is require NOW to get it and maintain it. It is true that in my mind I did think that getting Vajrayogini initiation mean that we have come to a finishing line. At least almost. Now I know it’s not. It means we have reached a starting point of something tougher.

    So it all makes sense to me is that I have to do more than what was given to me to do so that I can progress with one step more each time I do more than what is required. It’s not easy but as we do something which seem tough now, in time, we will look back and see that it’s not that tough after all. It’s good to keep that in mind to maintain positiveness.

  27. Bk on May 4, 2012 at 3:57 am

    This article is essential reading/ for anyone who is serious about their practice and is hoping to receive higher initiations and trainings. When I first came to Kechara, I had never heard of tantric initiations, let alone yamantaka or vajrayogini. Tantric practice didn’t seem difficult at all… After all, what’s so difficult about reciting a bunch of mantras? Or so I thought.

    But as I got to know Rinpoche and Buddhism better, and as I attended more classes, I began to wonder why Rinpoche hardly gave initiations to anyone. Was it really going to be that difficult for us to practice? By that time, I had started working for Kechara as one of the staff in Rinpoche’s Ladrang and I knew for a fact that Rinpoche was a lineage hood of many many initiations, in the hundreds…

    Rinpoche’s daily sadhana took hours to complete each day, and every single practice was meticulously kept up. I was even fortunate enough to meet several of Rinpoche’s gurus, who explained that Rinpoche and other similarly attained lamas were holders of many initiations so that they could transmit them to those in need, even at a moment’s notice.

    So why then not give initiations?

    This article explains it all and more. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out that Rinpoche doesn’t give initiations because if we are not prepared (and we are not), it would do us more harm than good. So, to prepare us for the day when we are finally ready for inittiation, Rinpoche compassionately give us assignments, dharma work, and other forms of training. And if this video is not enough, read this post on Cosmic Tantra on how we are further prepare ourselves for initiation: http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/buddhas-dharma/cosmic-tantra.html

    Thank you Rinpoche for always guiding us to the swiftest path to enlightenment. I hope to be ready someday.

  28. Albert on May 4, 2012 at 2:25 am

    Many people has been thinking of how a great master can help them solving problem, in their mind is taking the initiation, we will have a kind of magic to solve whatever problem we are facing now.

    People created the problem themselves, when the problem is out of control, this is how they thought can solve it. But in fact, initiation is just a start of the practice, and the commitment we are talking about is not something temporary, it is a whole life practice, so therefore, if only our daily task that is given by our Lama we also can’t fulfill it, do we really think that we can hold this commitment?

    This is the time we need to get preparation, be ready for the vajrayogini anytime, because this will be our best gift we can get in this lifetime.

  29. So Kin Hoe on May 3, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for giving us this important teaching. Now I fully understand why we need to prepare ourselves well with strong preliminary practice before we go for higher initiation. This teaching is very tough for me to follow but this is the only way to set myself free from samsara and prevent myself from unfortunate rebirth in my next life.

  30. Ven. Gyalten Sangpo on May 3, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    Excellent teaching Rinpoche, thank you. Je Pabongkha’s commentary ‘The Extremely Secret Dakini of Naropa’ has now been translated into English, and is published by Snow Lion. I highly recommended it to all Vajrayogini practitioners.

  31. Davin Chan on May 3, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for explaining about this so clearly and deeply. This is so informative and I am able to understand more about this Vajrayogini sacred initiation now. Vows, commitment, promises and I have a lot to work on. I hope that I am able to receive this sacred practice one day. Lets plant a a seed and create a cause in all of us.

  32. Wan Wai Meng on May 3, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for giving us an idea of what it will be like after taking a HYT initiation. I suppose becoming a buddha is like becoming the olympic champion of practitioners like how Pastor Ngeow would explain to us, we have to work really hard with a lot of discipline and we certainly have to hold onto the commitments and promises. As thats what is required for us to make any real progress and such methods have been tried and tested it will work if we follow them to the ‘T’.

  33. David Lai on May 3, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    Dear Rinpoche,
    Thank you for that wonderful teaching and advice for all of us, Vajrayogini practitioner aspirants. It is good that all of us learn up on the commitments of receiving Higher Tantric initiation. It would be good for all of us to aspire and not be discouraged by the commitments. Vajrayogini as Rinpoche has said is for all of us attached and lazy people who have so many excuses, reason to distract ourselves.

    On top of that, she has this special way of appealing to our desires. I love the fact that we are able to go about our daily activities and yet be in total communion with Vajrayogini through one of her yogas.
    Splendid practice for us. The Buddhas and Lamas are truly skillful.

  34. Michelle on May 3, 2012 at 12:06 pm

    thank you Rinpoche. :)

  35. Li Kim on May 2, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    I cannot thank Rinpoche enough for this post. It is so clear and simple to understand. Like many, I have very little, close to none, knowledge about tantric practice. I only have heard many talk about it and from what I have read here and there. This teaching from Rinpoche here has put all the little puzzles together for me in my head.

    I would not dare to say now that I am ready for tantric but from here I know I can start preparing the grounds. I am blessed that at least I have achieved the first step of finding my Guru in Rinpoche. I keep up my commitments to serve Rinpoche and the Dharma , do my dharma work 100% and go all the way with it. I am creating the causes to receive Vajrayogini in the future. I love Buddhism because it gives us knowledge and power to create our path to attainments and hope for a good life and future lives. This knowledge is liberating!

  36. Uncle Eddie on May 1, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    Rinpoche has in his answer in the facebook regarding vajrayogini’s initiation, compassionately revealed what we really need to know and do before, and after proceeding to the sacred practice of Vajrayogini. It has always been Rinpoche’s heartfelt wish that we could all attain something great within Vajrayogini’s practice, and would hope that “all of you pursue the Vajrayogini’s Path” find a qualified master, keep up with your teacher, be very devoted, and learn to master the teachings. Vajrayogini is a highly, treasured, sacred and tantric practice within the Gelug tradition.

  37. pastor ngeow on May 1, 2012 at 1:56 pm

    Listening to this explanation just reveals how compassionate and kind Rinpoche is to make sure we will be alright now and in future lives.
    Everything I hv been learning from Rinpoche these past 7 years is his skilful means to help me prepare well to receive higher teachings and to be able to practice them.This is the same for everyone else . We should be most grateful to be handguided this way and diligently and earnestly keep clean samaya and hold our commitments and vows.Even if we lose everything to win this freedom , its worth it. We do right now and keep at it until we ascend to Kechara.Thank you so so much Rinpoche who is one with Lama Tsongkhapa and Vajrayogini .

  38. joe ang on May 1, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Dear Rinpoche,
    thank you for sharing this teaching about Vajrayogini initiation that is passed down directly from H.H Kyabje Pabongkha Rinpoche and the commitments one have to undertake after receiving initiations, eg. the sadhana, meditation, mantras,holding our vows and being diligent in our practise.

    Once we commit to it, we have to do it seriously without giving excuses for our laziness. If not, we shouldn’t even ask for initiations as we are not prepared for it. What I understand from this video is that, it’s very auspicious and good to receive initiations from our Guru as out of great love and compassion he gives initiation to us for us to gain attainments. But if our mind is unstable and not ready to commit, and not do as promised, we not only do not gain attainments, but we create more negative Karma as we break Samaya with our Guru.

    I think that the very basic things we should have before receiving any intiations from our Guru is having deep Guru devotion and integrity with the practises which was already given. There is no shortcut to it. One Lama, one practice, one Yidam, one commitment and go all the way with it.

  39. nani on May 1, 2012 at 11:20 am

    thank you guru for post.i am verry happy to see teaching.

  40. Lim KSJC on May 1, 2012 at 3:08 am

    Thanks Rinpoche for the teaching, we should focus in our commitment first as a basic. Thanks Rinpoche for remind us to built up a strong base before we receive VY sacred initiation.

  41. Helena Chin on May 1, 2012 at 2:20 am

    Thank you Rinpoche for the clear explanation on High Tantra practice. I have more understanding now. I do wish to get closer to VY some day :) I do agreed that good things never come easy. No short cutnomatter what!!

  42. Pastor Susan on May 1, 2012 at 1:56 am

    It’s quite common for people to associate and focus on the mystical side of tibetan buddhism of stopping the rain, magical powerful mantras and most of all tantra. Many people are interested in tantra and wants to practice it without any foundation. What Rinpoche taught in this post is so important… that even if a person receives tantra, without the preliminaries, and cultivation of the qualities Rinpoche mention, Tantra will not bring us closer to Buddhahood…it ain’t no shortcut but if practiced well, the result is tremendous!

  43. yenpin on May 1, 2012 at 1:14 am



  44. Karen Leu on May 1, 2012 at 12:49 am

    Thankyou Rinpoche for sharing the pre & post of VY initiation. Feel like it’s a long way to go to get VY initiation. However, we should prepare our mind & stabilize our preliminary practice & aim towards VY initiation & practice.

  45. Jeffrey Yee on May 1, 2012 at 12:30 am

    It is mind blowing to know that our worldly habituation is the only thing stopping us from receiving higher tantric practice such as Vajrayogini. Not difficult to hold vows and commitments once we have corrected our perception towards karma and life. I really look forward to get close to VY.

    Thank you for such a clear explanation on High Tantra practice Rinpoche.

  46. Phillis Chin on Apr 30, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    Dear Rinpoche, Thank You for the post . And now i slightly understand what Tantric is and also VY Sacred Initiation is = ) Thank You!

  47. kumar on Apr 30, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    Thank you rinpoche for teachings i love rinpoche

  48. kumar on Apr 30, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Thank you rinpoche for his theachings i love rinpoche

  49. Julia Tan on Apr 30, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    Dear Rinpoche, 

    Thank you for the sacred teaching on tantric initiation. There’s a lot to be prepared (mentally and physically) and to be followed (our sadhana, mantra, retreat and of course tantric and bodhisattva vows) for a person to receive a tantric initiation. it makes sense totally. 

    I realized that Rinpoche already started preparing us for it. Whether how many of us is going to be qualify to receive it, it really depends on our integrity, faith and how serious we really want it. 

    So people, if you really want to gain attainment, whatever tasks that have been given my our guru, please just follow instructions and do it! Do not hesitate or stingy about our time and our commitment any more as chance like this doesn’t comes in our every lives time. 

  50. Sharon Saw on Apr 30, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Dearest Rinpoche

    Thank you for this clear and practical explanation of what is required should we have the honour and privilege to receive Vajrayogini’s holy practice.

    This explanation perfectly complements Rinpoche’s post on how we prepare to receive her holy practice (http://blog.tsemtulku.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/inspiration-worthy-words/starting-on-vajra-yogini-now.html). It is a continuum – especially on holding vows and commitments. I was intrigued to read about the paper or cloth representation of the tantric clothes, tantric ornaments and tantric instruments. May i humbly request Rinpoche to have a copy? It would be great to have it on Rinpoche’s blog so that people can download it from wherever they are and it would also not inconvenience Rinpoche.

    Several people i have met have craved receiving tantric initiations without understanding the motivation or requirements of the practices. They are often arrogant, lack discipline and patience, yet think that they are able to undertake tantric practice. It’s very sad that they do not have teachers like Rinpoche, or that they do not wish to be a student to a teacher like Rinpoche. We are very fortunate that Rinpoche takes so much time and effort to explain to us so that we understand and therefore have more trust in Rinpoche’s instructions and guidance. Rinpoche has no agenda except that we become the best practitioners that we can be.

    Thank you for Rinpoche’s care always.


  51. kwok wai on Apr 30, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche , for sharing this with us. What you shared is truly the “real deal” as good things never come easy . I guess we really have to pull our socks up and suck it in and just do it ! That is how i like it , regimented .

  52. lewkwanleng on Apr 30, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    I really like it when Rinpoche said that “some people throughout the world have advertised tantra the wrong way”. So much myth has been put on the initiations, but Rinpoche explained it in very logical way.

    Rinpoche always asked us to learn more Dharma so that we can explain to others well, because in this era, blind faith is not “welcome”, but faith backed with logic is so much easier to be accepted.

  53. Datuk May on Apr 30, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    What I clearly understand from Rinpoche’s teaching on initiations especially that of Vajrayogini is totally about commitments to our vows and practise with diligence. No short cuts to attainments nor enlightenment.

    If I am to stop my delusions about the way my life is now, I will truly be in great pain and sufferings and this is the vicious circle I go through life after life. But to have the merits to be granted VY initiations and to work hard to get out of suffering to benefit others and myself is worth all the imagined possessions of this materialistic world.

    Something worth working for during this short life for better future lives.

  54. Siong Woan on Apr 30, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Dear Rinpoche,

    Thank you yet again for another mind-blowing teaching.

    Now I know what i want in life and I am working towards getting it !!

  55. Victor Phang on Apr 30, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    Dear Rinpoche:
    Thank you very much for this beautiful teaching. Now I must accelerate to transform fully into an extremely strong and committed vows holder, no more excuses for whatsoever reason to skip any practices daily then only I would be qualified to receive Vajrayogini’s initiation or any other initiation.

    Personally I think in order to succeed during this transformation process, it required extremely strong mind that able to “tell” me do & don’t, “instruct” me not to be lazy or giving up & “control” my worldly desires. Therefore since about 8 months ago, I promised myself to do Sadhana everyday and become a vegetarian. I keep reminding myself – “if I can’t even do Sadhana daily” and “I can’t even control the desire of my food intake” then forever I would not be able to hold more vows which are the MUST in any higher initiation because I can’t even hold my own promises and eliminate meaningless desire in life.

    On the other hand, If I’m not ready to receive any higher initiation but still seek for initiation from any master due to ego then I could cause endless harms to the master and myself by breaking vows and commitment. It is absolutely selfish and totally opposite with the practice of selflessness in Dharma.

    Today I’m proud to say that I’m transforming and is getting better position in learning and practicing Dharma but still need a lot of efforts, guidance and supports to totally letting go all the attachments and unstable mind.

    Last but not least, I’m grateful to Rinpoche and all other kecharians who always support me along this journey and giving me opportunity to get closer, learn and practice Dharma by allowing me to volunteer and participate in whatever way I can in Kechara.

    Thank you very much for the teaching and take very good care Rinpoche.
    With Love,

    • DR on May 1, 2012 at 1:48 am

      Dear Victor, you are right when you said “if I can’t even do Sadhana daily” and “I can’t even control the desire of my food intake” then forever I would not be able to hold more vows which are the MUST in any higher initiation because I can’t even hold my own promises and eliminate meaningless desire in life.

      A tantrika needs to hold on to Refuge vows, Bodhisattava vows and Tantric vows. So if one cant even hold the 5 refuge vows (in this case of not killing and going vegetarian)then how to hold so many other vows?

      Our daily sadhana is so short (probably takes half hour each day to complete) and if we cant even be consistent with it, we will ‘freak out’ when having to do the tantric deity sadhana.

      Rinpoche is so skillful in preparing us for higher tantra yoga initiation by slowly adding our commitments through time and using so many skillful means to make our mind pliable to receive tantra. We have a pot of gold on our door step, we must grab it fast so as not to loose our chance.

      • Victor Phang on May 1, 2012 at 8:18 am

        Thanks Dato for the explanation and encouragement :)

  56. Irene Lim on Apr 30, 2012 at 11:09 am

    Thank you Rinpoche for your preview of Vajrayogini’s Sacred Practice. Whoever comes to read this blog or hear it has planted the seed for Vajrayogini’s Practice. As usual Rinpoche is so skillful to let us have a sneak preview of this highly scared practice no lama as ever done.

  57. Gim Lee on Apr 30, 2012 at 10:17 am

    Dear Rinpoche,

    Thank you for this explanation on the our commitments after we received initiation into Vajrayogini or other Highest Yoga Tantra initiations.Though it is just a short ‘preview’ but Rinpoche’s explanation is very clear and precise.

    Rinpoche had very clearly explained that the initiation, though very powerful and sacred, it will not give us attainments by just receiving it (or very unlikely for common people like us) but the attainments come from our commitments and practice of keeping our promises, our vows (Tantric vows, bodhisattva vows, etc), doing our daily sadhanas, mantras, 21 Vajrasattva mantra, six times Guru Yoga daily, tsok twice a month, carry with us the tantric ornaments(drawings will do) and tantric instruments and at least once before we die, to do a full-lenth retreat of our tantric Yidam and end it with a fire puja… and if we missed, we have to double or triple them or more… phews! Definitely not for lazy minds modern people that have tans of samsaric commitments!

    And the most importantly is to keep our samaya clean with our Guru immaterial if he is still alive or already passed on. I understand now why Rinpoche is so strict with us about keeping our commitments and promises because Rinpoche wants us to be well prepared to receive initiation into HYT. And so that when we actually receive it, we will get the highest and full benefits from it.

    Thank you very very much Rinpoche.

  58. nicholas on Apr 30, 2012 at 9:58 am

    Dear Rinpoche,

    Thanks for the explanation on commitment after receiving Vajrayogini’s sacred initiation.
    After initiation, the post initiation is much more important than the actual initiation. This is where we hold our commitment for the rest of our life.

    What struck me the most is the part that mentioned if there’s a long sadhana of Vajrayogini for us to do to become enlightened, we got to do the long one. Even though we don’t have commitment to do the long one but if that is the requirement we should commit. 2 things that i see from this is that one to prepare ourselves and second to create the cause for us to be able to receive the initiation.

    By saying so, we should start practices to prepare ourselves before we request for initiation. Just like a runner who train themself before the competition. They practice during the competition.

  59. justin cheah on Apr 30, 2012 at 6:55 am

    Thank you Rinpoche for posting this up. I am much clearer now on the fundamentals value required for us in order to practice the sacred tantric such as Vajrayogini practice!

    Makes me think how compassionate Rinpoche really is because Rinpoche has only one motive for us, which is to guide us the way to Vajrayogini’s paradise, Kechara. From the design of the BAM sign as our organisation’s logo (which is also the symbol of Vajrayogini’s body, speech and mind) is enough for me to realise it is the benefit for the people who will have the seeds planted in the public’s mind whenever they see the BAM sign.

    And all the buttons pushing or mind training given through either Dharma work or even a simple assignment by Rinpoche was the first step (modern way) to develop the qualities we must have in our mindstream in order to practice Vajrayogini or any other tantric practices!

    May all of us be able to ascend to Vajrayogini’s paradise one day!

    Justin cheah

  60. Mc on Apr 30, 2012 at 6:16 am

    Initiations may be very exciting but it is what happens after the initiation that matters. It comes down to having the strength of commitment and the integrity to follow through with the vows and practices that brings about the attainments.

    This strength and commitment do not come easily to us as we have already formed the habit of giving up and looking for the easy way in just about everything we do. And so our mind need to be trained and this is precisely what Rinpoche has been doing with us all along. Pushing us beyond our own perceived boundaries and laziness and giving us a chance to receive the benefits of higher practice. Essentially our training with Rinpoche started a while ago, when you think about it.

    I have no doubt that Rinpoche wishes for everyone to be able to receive Vajrayogini practice. Look at all the statues, thangkas and images of Vajrayogini that Rinpoche has given out. These gifts represent Rinpoche’s hope for us to “qualify” for the initiations and the assignments that Rinpoche gives us are our preparation.

    I suppose for now it is not necessary to think so deeply about receiving initiations. I see great value in simply following the Guru’s instructions and trusting in the Guru’s methods. If I can carry out my duties with sincerity and integrity and not give up easily, then any higher practice will be an extension of a training that has already started.

  61. Adeline on Apr 30, 2012 at 4:42 am

    Thank you Rinpoche for the clear explanation in this post regarding Vajrayogini initiation. We need to do our homework in order to qualify to receive Vajrayogini’s Sacred Initiation,must work hard for it be committed and keep our promises.Most importantly after the initiation we must hold the Bodhisattva and tantric vows strongly, totally committed to do daily Sadhana, to recite Vajrasattva 21 times every single day and do Tsog twice a month in order to become a practitioner.

  62. yekyee on Apr 30, 2012 at 2:11 am

    Rinpoche used very simple way to explain the importance of keep our promises and commitment with consistency. Because Rinpoche had stated few times to us how important if we can do well the assignment which Rinpoche assigned. The reason why Rinpoche want to continue work with us, and this an good opportunity to get merits from what has try to help. I feel it really make sure we do our job well. Because if we come at here for meeting.Han

  63. Cynthia Ng on Apr 29, 2012 at 11:22 pm




  64. MayOng on Apr 29, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    Although the thought of requesting Vajrayogini initiation is on my mind, I find Rinpoche’s video explanation here very detail on what it takes to qualify. Keep the commitments to the vows even after the Guru’s death, having a good grounding foundation of a stable mind, always remember to do the daily sadhanas including the 21 vajrasattva mantra, keeping good samaya, study up the Lamrim and the repercussions of skipping even a day of prayers.

    In actual fact, all along these time, Rinpoche had always reminded us not to skip our daily sadhanas of Lama Tsongkapa, keep our samaya clean with our Guru, not break our promises and learn the dharma constantly consistently.

    I can see how kind Rinpoche has been to us, proding us along, encouraging and not giving up on us on this path of enlightenment for us. Thank you for this precious teaching.

  65. Jace Chong on Apr 29, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Dear Rinpoche,

    Thank you so much for sharing this very precious knowledge about the commitments to have Vajrayogini sacred initiations.

    Rinpoche has been teaching and pushing us to live our live as we have received a Tantric initiation such as urging us about the importance to keep our promise, not to get people back to win etc. These are all the commitments we should hold after Tantric initiation. Rinpoche nurtures us to make all these commitment as our habits now so when we go for higher practice, we can make it and not break it. Rinpoche is so skillful to make Lamrim and others sacred teaching into daily practice that is very applicable to our life and it’s doable.

    Of course I hope 1 day I have the merits to receive a sacred initiation, I have to make sure I am ready before that. Now, I am checking my mind as frequent as I could, not to break my Refuge vow, and also contemplate on Bodhisattva vows (although I yet to get it). I hope my mind will get more ready for more vows, so I can serve more people and sentient beings.

    Thanks Rinpoche! _/|\_

  66. Lim Tat Ming on Apr 29, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    There are two key points for us to remember prior to receiving Vajrayogini Tantra or any other Highest Yoga Tantra (HYT) practices in the future:

    1) Ability to keep our vows and commitments well &
    2) Be very grounded in our basic spiritual training at least in The Three Principal Aspects of the Path, understanding of Sunyata and Bodhichitta.

    These two points form the basis for the success of our HYT practices if we have the merit to practise them.

    For the high-level sports like the Marathons or the Olympics, athletics train very hard from the basic and are very consistent in their effort. These sports demand lots of stamina, perseverance and discipline from the athletics. Athletics display true commitment to the sports until the day of the competition or upon the achievement of success in their sports.

    HYT practices are akin to the trainings in the marathons or Olympics competitions. In reality HYT practices are more than that, it is about accomplishing Enlightenment. These HYT practices require total commitment, discipline and devotion to the practices from serious practitioners. HYT is a quick path to success but also a quick path to failure if future initiates are not fully aware and understood all the requirements and rules of the HYT practices.

    Thank You Rinpoche for these clear and precious teachings and guidance for future initiates of Highest Yoga Tantra.

  67. Pastor Chia on Apr 29, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Doing what we has promise after the initiation is very important. We need to do our sadana daily, holding our tantric vow and Bodhisattva vow and do the tsog to our Yidam twice a month. Other wise will be no result after the initiation.
    Thank you rinpoche sharing so much in this teaching. Hope at the future able to receive holy teaching of sacred Vajrayogini.

  68. Karen Chong on Apr 29, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Like what Rinpoche has said, what’s important is that whatever we have promised during initiations is much more important after initiation… I think before we request for any initiation from a guru, we should do a self check whether the integrity is in us or not. Without having integrity, we are not even stable in doing our preliminary practice prior to tantric practice, which requires us to hold our vows very strongly in order to gain attainment.

    Thank you Rinpoche for explaining this sacred practice. This has reaffirmed the importance of keeping our commitments and promises.

  69. Sock Wan on Apr 29, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for explaining to us what tantric practice is all about. Having to receive an initiation does not mean we will gain attainments, it is the efforts that we put after that bring us attainment. Rinpoche’s explaination is very clear and precise, we are able to gauge easily if we are ready for an initiation. For me, I am far away from being eligible to receive one, at least for now. But I will work on myself to prepare for it.

    Enlightenment is not given, it requires a lot of hardwork from ourselves, no one can do that for us. Rinpoche has given us a very simple formula to follow if we want the practice, ie “keeping promises and commitments”.

  70. Han on Apr 29, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this clear and precise teaching about Vajrayogini initiation.

    From this post, i have a better understanding of how fortunate and rare for one to get VY initiation from a guru and .
    Rinpoche mentioned in the video
    “what’s important is that whatever we have promised during initiation is much more important after initiation and after whether you meet your Lama or not, whether you’re getting special care from your Lama or not, whether your Lama has, is unfortunately passed away or is still living or not, it doesn’t matter, because during initiation, you have taken oaths and commitments and samayas and promises from your Lama as a deity.”

    Therefore, VOWS, COMMITMENTS, PROMISES are extremely important!

  71. Elena on Apr 29, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    What struck me about this video (I’m sorry my comment is so long!!):

    1. How serious taking initiation is, and how seriously Rinpoche takes it. Like Rinpoche says, it’s advertised in the wrong way so people have the wrong ideas about it. For example, I did not know that a day is needed for preparatory initiations when receiving the Vajrayogini initiation, so that any inauspicious signs can be observed.

    But in reality, such a powerful tool for practice should not be taken so lightly and a good indication of that is the number of requirements, procedures and processes involved in receiving initiation. If it was open to any Tom, Dick and Harry then there are fewer processes involved. But if it’s secret and very powerful, and it shouldn’t be taken lightly, then the process of receiving it will be very complex.

    2. The vows and how they attack our more subtle habituations. My thinking is like this – the refuge vows, Mahayana vows, etc attack our gross habituations which are very base (e.g. refraining from sexual misconduct, lying, stealing, creating schism). However, the bodhisattva vows which we receive during initiation attack our more subtle habituations.

    It is because the vows attack more subtle habituations, that makes receiving initiation a much more powerful tool for transforming ourselves (but of course, we must transform enough BEFORE receiving the initiation, in order to receive it). So like Rinpoche said, the initiation ritual plants the seeds and blessings, but the power is in holding our vows.

    3. Rinpoche’s consistent message that attainments come from hard work, persistency, consistency and integrity. There’s no quick fix to solve all our problems and definitely just going for initiations isn’t the solution.

    4. Rinpoche is teaching from experience. Rinpoche spoke about the importance of keeping our oaths, promises and commitments to our lama, regardless of whether we see him/her after initiation. After Rinpoche received initiation from Kyabje Zong Rinpoche so many years ago, Rinpoche has spent comparatively much less time with Zong Rinpoche than we have had the merit to spend with Rinpoche.

    Despite not having his Guru around, Rinpoche still keeps his commitments and promises. So Rinpoche teaches us vows and commitments are important and uses himself as an example, which again also matches another one of Rinpoche’s teachings on integrity (because if Rinpoche taught about the importance of vows and didn’t keep them himself, then Rinpoche would not have a basis to speak from).

    5. Also, the part about keeping our commitments to our lama regardless of whether we see him/her after initiation reminds me also about the egolessness of our spiritual guides, and how we can check out if someone is a genuine teacher. A charlatan who gives out initiations left, right and centre will be doing it with the intent of creating more followers to support him, love him, give him donations, etc. But someone who hardly gives out initiations, and holds the practices close to his heart, and emphasises repeatedly that it is the vows that matter, and NOT the physical proximity to the lama, really has no ego about accumulating followers

    6. The commitments actually don’t sound complicated if we examine them closely, and how we react to them is a reflection of our mind. What I mean is on first thought, we might panic and think, “Omg how am I going to keep all the commitments and vows?” Of course we’re going to break some of them because we’re not Buddhas but the fact they sound ‘difficult’ shouldn’t stop us from taking them. They are only ‘difficult’ because we are comparing them against what we are used to do doing (which is being lazy, breaking promises, not keeping our commitments). To me, the fear of taking the vows is actually greater than the difficulty of keeping the vows if we are really intent on our practice, and serious about our transformtion.

    7. The part where Rinpoche spoke about doing the mantra or the short/long sadhana reminded me that Rinpoche has been training us up in a very subtle way to take initiations in the future, most notably through Rinpoche’s teaching about always doing more. In this video, Rinpoche said just because your lama hasn’t told you to do the sadhana, doesn’t mean you just stick to the mantra.

    Rinpoche always says if you’ve been in Dharma for many years, check if you are doing more or doing less, then you’ll know you’re on the right track. So in this case, if you are serious about your practice and serious about doing more to benefit others, then you should be serious and WANT to do the sadhana (although you don’t have a commitment to it), because the sadhana can help you do more to benefit others…and wasn’t that the reason why you took the initiation?

    8. Also, another example of how Rinpoche has been subtly training us for receiving initiation is what Rinpoche said about our vows, and whether it is worth it to lose our vows just to be right, just to not apologise, just to keep a lie, just to keep our face…and since it’s not worth it, let the other person win. It’s the very simple verse from the 8 Verses of Thought Transformation, about accepting defeat and offering the victory to others. When we first moved into KH1 so many years ago, I remember Rinpoche hanging up a painting done by Margaret, and Rinpoche being extremely excited about it. Now I know why!

    Thank you Rinpoche for doing this video, it cleared up for me a lot of questions I didn’t know I had about initiations and makes things much more understandable.

  72. patsy on Apr 29, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Thank you,Rinpoche, for this clear explanations on Vajrayogini’s Sacred Initiation. There are so many benefits through receiving this tantric practices. I will use this teachings as a guideline to create the cause of receiving Vajrayogini’s initiation. I will strive to be consistent in my practice and hold on to my vows and commitments.

    May I have the merits to receive HER practice and be near HER in this life and future lives. May we all ascend to Kechara Paradise

  73. Yoke Fui on Apr 29, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    Like Rinpoche pointed out, after taking the initiation, we have to do the work – this is the WAY for enlightenment.

    The Guru gives the dharma/initiation, we need to understand, do the preparation, put into practice, fulfill the commitment and hold the vows.

    Blessing comes from the Guru but students must ensure we prepare ourselves to be the suitable vessels to receive the blessings.

    Tantric practices are faster and more “powerful”. Due to this, the Guru needs to be more stringent and cautious in giving such methods to the students out of his concern for the students’ spiritual well being.

    Thank you Rinpoche for the clear and informative post.I know what I must do to be worthy of receiving the initiation.

  74. Lim Han Nee on Apr 29, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Thank you, Rinpoche, for you great compassion in presenting here very clearly what one has to do to create the causes to be able to receive the Vajrayogini Initiation and Practice.

    There are such tremendous benefits to be obtained from receiving a tantric initiation and engaging in tantric practices, especially Vajrayogini’s(as it is the one that’s most tailored to our lazy minds so deeply mired in the distractions of this degenerate age).

    As is said in the Lamrim, we should make optimal use of this precious human life, especially when we still have all the eighteen opportune conditions and more. The optimal use of this precious life is that of treading the Vajrayana Path to full Enlightenment and Buddhahood for the benefit of all beings.

    May I have the focus and the determination to work steadfastly on creating the causes to receive Vajrayogini’s initiation and practice within this lifetime,though the sands of time are running out fast for me.

  75. KPDarren on Apr 29, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for the sharing. We can start start doing offering like water, incense and candle to Vajrayogini images or statue to create a cause for us to receive the initiation. For anyone looking for Vajrayogini statue, tsa tsa, thangka or offering items. Please do visit Kechara Paradise outlets we had in KL and Penang. http://www.kechara.com/shopping/locations/.

  76. mayy on Apr 29, 2012 at 5:11 pm

    Now I have a better understanding of the basic requirement of tantric committments. Thank you Rinpoche for sharing them.

    There’s alot that I have to work on and am moving myself towards to be able to receive it when the time is right. May I have the merits to receive her practice and be near a Guru in many lifetimes.

  77. Paul paul on Apr 29, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Dear Rinpoche, thank you for giving explanation about the tantric commitment., i have some basic understanding now.

    That piece of photo which carries the tantric ornament is neat, i would like to request to have one. I promised will keep it very sacred and secret.

    Thank you!

  78. Margaretlee on Apr 29, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for sharing this with us.

    Rinpoche has always stressed the importance of “consistency” in our practice, and this is no surprise at all for the committments one should hold after receiving VY initiation.

    But first, I must strive to be consistent in what I have promised to do before I can even be considered for receiving such sacred initiation.

    I remember Rinpoche has shared in one of his teachings that he would like to give all of us VY initiation so that we could all ascend to her paradise sooner, but he could not as there are pre-requisite and the students to receive this scared initiation must be suitable vehicles, or else, Rinpoche would be breaking his committments to his guru as well.

    Rinpoche is forever compassionate to finding ways and methods to see if we are ready, so we must do our part nomatter what circumstances we are in, because an opportunity like that is definitely not something you can come across easily.

    May all of us who have the great merit to meet Rinpoche, help each other and strive all the way for this holy and sacred initiation that will end our sufferings………Kechara Paradise…..

  79. Roy Martinez on Apr 29, 2012 at 12:01 pm

    The Vajrayogini sadhana is quite long indeed but to even practice her is truly a blessing.

    Many people think that Tantra is the quickest path but it involves so much more starting from the shravaka-yana to the yana of atiyoga. It’s a long arduous path but in the end it’s worth it.

    The six session guru sounds like it would be an awesome form of guru yoga to practice. At the same time, I’m more than content practicing Guru Yoga of Tsongkhapa. I think I might expand my guru yoga practice to six times a day like the six session guru yoga.

    Those who have any commitments should commit to them with their lives. It would only do you good in the end. Blessings to all!

  80. Thierry on Apr 29, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    Thank you Rinpoche for this post, clear and very informative.
    I note that however difficult it may feel at times to keep up the commitments,
    (a) I should remember that they were suitable for lazy minds already, suitable for my lazy mind, so if I can’t even commit to that… what can I ever achieve really?
    (b) I must remember what the goal is: enlightenment within 7 life times, if that is not a golden opportunity worthy to put efforts into, then what is?

  81. henry ooi on Apr 29, 2012 at 11:31 am

    It really blows my mind to read of the benefits one may achieved through higher tantric practices. I want to end my suffering and I will strive toward it day by day in this life. If at the end of this life I have not achieved my goal then may I have the merit to take a good rebirth to continue where I left off.

    Rinpoche had mentioned many times before that an Olympic athlete trains very hard to compete and strives to win a medal and it is full commitment all the way. And that, just for a medal.

    Yes, I admit the vows and commitments are daunting but enlightenment is what I want.

  82. skyong on Apr 29, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Dear Rinpoche, thank you for letting us know more about Vajrayogini. The only message I received from reading here, before the video, and in the transcript of video from start to end is, commitments. Only comimitments.

    • sweekeong on Nov 2, 2012 at 8:29 am

      We can definitely do more if we want it especially in this case enlightenment, the highest one can achieve in happiness for me and everyone. Sincerity, humility and perseverance are some of the good qualities we can always remind ourselves so that our mind is always open and we can move forward progressing on this path.

      In this age mental suffering is as bad or worst than physical suffering because for most of us we have food, clothes, a roof over our head, and entertainment but we are still feel unsatisfied. We have obtained material comforts but our mind, our mental has no comforts because we have not achieve something that is lasting, happiness that last. Then we look for a goal post pursuing one goal to another goal. However there is a goal post that is worth pursuing over all other goals. And this is the goal. :)

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *



Dear blog friends,

I’ve created this section for all of you to share your opinions, thoughts and feelings about whatever interests you.

Everyone has a different perspective, so this section is for you.

Tsem Rinpoche


10 - 11PM (GMT +8)
5 - 6AM (PST)
9:30 - 10:30PM (GMT +8)
4:30 - 5:30AM (PST)
11AM - 12PM (GMT +8)
9:30 - 10PM (GMT +8)
4:30 - 5AM (PST)


The Greatness of Je Tsongkhapa
Dorje Shugden Teaching Videos - Video (The Mantras of Dorje Shugden by Pastor KH)

Please come and join in the chat for a fun time and support. See you all there.

Blog Chat Etiquette

These are some simple guidelines to make the blog chat room a positive, enjoyable and enlightening experience for everyone. Please note that as this is a chat room, we chat! Do not flood the chat room, or post without interacting with others.

Be friendly

Remember that these are real people you are chatting with. They may have different opinions to you and come from different cultures. Treat them as you would face to face, and respect their opinions, and they will treat you the same.

Be Patient

Give the room a chance to answer you. Patience is a virtue. And if after awhile, people don't respond, perhaps they don't know the answer or they did not see your question. Do ask again or address someone directly. Do not be offended if people do not or are unable to respond to you.

Be Relevant

This is the blog of H.E. Tsem Rinpoche. Please respect this space. We request that all participants here are respectful of H.E. Tsem Rinpoche and his organisation, Kechara.

Be polite

Avoid the use of language or attitudes which may be offensive to others. If someone is disrespectful to you, ignore them instead of arguing with them.

Please be advised that anyone who contravenes these guidelines may be banned from the chatroom. Banning is at the complete discretion of the administrator of this blog. Should anyone wish to make an appeal or complaint about the behaviour of someone in the chatroom, please copy paste the relevant chat in an email to us at [email protected] and state the date and time of the respective conversation.

Please let this be a conducive space for discussions, both light and profound.


Here is the latest news and pictorial updates, as it happens, of our upcoming forest retreat project.

The Kechara Forest Retreat is a unique holistic retreat centre focused on the total wellness of body, mind and spirit. This is a place where families and individuals will find peace, nourishment and inspiration in a natural forest environment. At Kechara Forest Retreat, we are committed to give back to society through instilling the next generation with universal positive values such as kindness and compassion.

For more information, please read here (english), here (chinese), or the official site: retreat.kechara.com.


Name: Email:
Mail will not be published
  • Lucy Yap
    Wednesday, Dec 2. 2015 01:14 AM
    Watch this beautiful and inspiring video on ‘ Two Important Life Lessons ‘ by H.E.The 25th Tsem Rinpoche. How would you live your life, if you have this kind of look? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sov38tyFHnY
  • jillyam
    Tuesday, Dec 1. 2015 11:31 PM
    Good things do come in small packages.

    “A few years ago I came up with the idea of scanning Dharma texts into soft copy and duplicating them into thumb drives. We were already filling up statues with holy mantras that are rolled and sealed individually …..I thought, “Why not duplicate these mantras into thumb drives and insert those into statues as well?” What I didn’t expect was that we could duplicate books of Dharma texts into the millions, let alone billions!”
    - H.E. The 25th Tsem Rinpoche

    Today, these thumb drives that contain trillions of mantras, holy images and prayers are now available for you to start your own DIY mantra insertion project.

  • jillyam
    Tuesday, Dec 1. 2015 11:11 PM
    Truth is not difficult, good, bad, harsh or gentle……. our level of acceptance of the truth makes truth difficult, harsh, easy, pleasant or whatever.
    - H.E. The 25th Tsem Rinpoche
  • Pastor Adeline
    Tuesday, Dec 1. 2015 02:51 PM
    Kechara Sunday Dharma School (KSDS) is bringing you our very first children’s holiday activity – W.O.A.H camp! As impressive as our title sounds, we aim to instill the power of showing appreciation through actions and words as well as, hugs in children from ages 8-12! (How can we forget the hugs?)
    Places are limited to 40 participants only so REGISTER YOUR CHILD NOW before places run out and the EARLY BIRD PRICE EXPIRES TODAY with difference of RM70!
    You can register online NOW: https://docs.google.com/…/1BRmwM8GYJOWc6TbqVO5ZF8…/viewform… or walk in at Kechara House FrontDesk!

  • Lucy Yap
    Tuesday, Dec 1. 2015 01:54 AM
    Dear students and friends,

    I came across this article on CNN and thought that I should share it with all of my blog readers. The article is on 10 of the best meditation retreats in the world!

    When I read it, I couldn’t help but think that it’s very much how I would like Kechara Forest Retreat (KFR) to be. A place where you can get away from the bustling crowd and heavy traffic in the city, and to find some peace, quiet and serenity away from it all. In the case of KFR, within the beautiful forest of Malaysia… H.E.The 25th Tsem Rinpoche . http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/…/10-of-the-worlds-best-meditat…
  • jillyam
    Tuesday, Dec 1. 2015 12:18 AM
    The 2nd reincarnation of H.E. The 25th Tsem Rinpoche was Drubchen Birwapa (or Virupa)
    Read more here :-

  • jillyam
    Tuesday, Dec 1. 2015 12:06 AM
    Help raise funds for Medicine Buddha Hill.
    The Medicine Buddha Hill project was conceptualised by H.E. The 25th Tsem Rinpoche to aid and benefit us in our spiritual journey. This project will be a part of Kechara Forest Retreat situated in the heart of Benton, Pahang, Malaysia.
    Read more here as to how you can be apart of this project.
  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Nov 30. 2015 08:54 PM
    His Holiness the Dalai Lama promotes kindness, compassion, tolerance, harmony, especially dialogue and non-violence approach to difficult issues which has won Him the Nobel Peace prize.

    However, His stand on the Dorje Shugden practise is a highly controversial one. He has gone to the extend to dispel Dorje Shugden monks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnae54qIyCM which is a total contradiction with what He promotes globally.

    Human beings has different mind that requires different religious practises. Hence the various religions on earth including the Dorje Shugden practise. For those of you who are new to this practise, you may like to viist http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/category/dorje-shugden for more information.

    On behalf of the Dorje Shugden practitioners, I would like to plea His Holiness for a chance to have dialogue and lift this unnecessary ban once and for all!

  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Nov 30. 2015 08:54 PM
    There are just too many things we are unaware of, unheard of or unseen of. We have not venture into the deep ocean, forest or snow mountains and are mostly ignorant about the lives there. We have limited knowledge and receive only what the society wanted us to know not realising what we knew is just a handful of sand in the vast dessert. Sometimes we tell ourselves we have to see to believe, but the truth is whether we see it or not, vast variety of lives do exist. This video is another proof for Big Foot sceptics, once again strengthen the possibilities of lives beyond our limited understanding and beliefs.

  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Nov 30. 2015 08:53 PM
    NgJesvin on Nov 25, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    Saya memang terharu apabila melihat Rinpoche yang begitu mengambil berat terhadap pasukan penyelamat dan pasukan kawalan di Bentong pada malam tragedi itu. Rinpoche yang bersifat baik hari tanpa mengira warna kulit, agama, bahasa dan latar belakang setiap ahli dalam pasukan penyelamat dan pasukan kawalan. Justerunya, saya juga berasa amat bangga dengan pelajar-pelajar Rinpoche yang sanggup mengorbankan masa dan tenaga tanpa mengenal penat dan waktu dengan rela hati menghantar makanan dan minuman untuk pasukan penyelamat dan pengawal. Kita sepatutnya mencontohi tindakan Rinpoche dan pelajar-pelajar beliau iaitu sentiasa sedia menyediakan bantuan kepada pihak yang memerlukan. Di samping itu, kita perlulah saling menyayangi antara satu sama lain tanpa mengira agama, latar belakang dan warna kulit begitu juga dengan segala makhluk hidup di persekitaran kita. Akhirnya, kita sepatutnya peka terhadap apa yang berlaku di persekitaran kita agar keharmonian dapat kekal selama-lamanya.Bak kata pepatah “yang baik dijadikan teladan, yang buruk dijadikan sempadan”.

  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Nov 30. 2015 08:51 PM
    A Little Change Can Save Another Life
    RM2 may not get us far these days but it will definitely transform the life of a bird that only knew the chaos inside dirty, overcrowded cages.

    A little CHANGE provides one nutritious and healthy meal of fresh vegetables, millet snacks and delicious seeds for a bird.

    A little CHANGE sets an example for our children to be caring, generous and kind.

    A little CHANGE preserves our humanity through helping those with no voice.

  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Nov 30. 2015 08:51 PM
    It’s a good program, a concept that combines Meditation & Photography. I gained consciousness and awareness for what I do and what I love to do without any emails or calls to draw me away. ~ Gary Chuah Cheng Wai

  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Nov 30. 2015 08:50 PM
    ooking for a vegetarian banquet experience? Look no further! Visit us at Kechara Oasis for special weekday promotions on vegetarian banquet menus.

    Promotion period runs from 1 Dec 2015 to 31 Jan 2016 with prices starting as low as RM488++. Make your reservation today at:

    Kechara Oasis Jaya One
    Tel: 03-7968 1818

    Kechara Oasis Viva Home
    Tel: 03-9284 1818

  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Nov 30. 2015 08:49 PM
    These precious teachings from Dorje Shugden are sacred and clearly dharmic. No devil will ask us to practise the buddha dharma and be of benefits of others. Some of the points I have learned as follows:

    1. When we apply the teachings of our Guru, putting dharma into actions, logically we will produce positive results and see the positive transformation of our mind.

    2. Eight Worldly Dharmas bring us no where but continue to suffer. These eight practices led us to the wrong path, causing our mind to become unstable, bear no results from our practise.

    3. When we show respect to our Guru from our heart sincerely, we will be the cause for others to meet dharma through any Guru they have karmic relation with.

    4. Black Manjushri will have many powerful effects. It will stave off the curses that people send to us, including negative words, curses, negative gossip and talk, ill-wishes and jealousies etc.

    5. Consistent practice is the remedy for our broken vows, through retreats we purify. Only through continued dharma work with a good mind, constantly striving to break our comfort zones will we be of benefit to others through our work. All results come from us making all necessary efforts.

  • Pastor Adeline
    Monday, Nov 30. 2015 08:48 PM




1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · »


Concept: Tsem Rinpoche
Technical: Lew Kwan Leng, Justin Ripley, Yong Swee Keong
Design: Justin Ripley, Cynthia Lee
Content: Tsem Rinpoche, Justin Ripley, Pastor Shin Tan, Sarah Yap
Writer: Pastor Loh Seng Piow
Admin: Pastor Loh Seng Piow, Beng Kooi

I must thank my dharma blog team who are great assets to me, Kechara and growth of dharma in this wonderful region. I am honoured and thrilled to work with them. I really am. Maybe I don't say it enough to them, but I am saying it now. I APPRECIATE THESE GUYS VERY MUCH!

Tsem Rinpoche

What Am I Writing Now


The Unknown

The Known and unknown are both feared,
Known is being comfortable and stagnant,
The unknown may be growth and opportunities,
One shall never know if one fears the unknown more than the known.
Who says the unknown would be worse than the known?
But then again, the unknown is sometimes worse than the known. In the end nothing is known unless we endeavour,
So go pursue all the way with the unknown,
because all unknown with familiarity becomes the known.
~Tsem Rinpoche

Photos On The Go

Click on the images to view the bigger version. And scroll down and click on "View All Photos" to view more images.
3 weeks ago
Please see the WONDERFUL NEW PHOTOS taken just this morning (November 13, 2015) here: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=81688 (Be sure to scroll to the bottom until part 2 to see the pictures)
3 weeks ago
We at Kechara Forest Retreat had the honor to have a visit from Yang Dipertua Mohammad Shahid bin Ismail who is the Head of the Bentong Municipal Council. We thank him for taking the time as he was very busy. Thank you very much. Tsem Rinpoche
3 weeks ago
Pastor David giving a well received talk on the practice of Black Manjushri
3 weeks ago
Found a green patch of land to spend with friends...
3 weeks ago
Nice to see our fellow Modern Buddhist Fellowship members engaged in Dharma.
3 weeks ago
Manjushri-ghosha, Kumara (English: Youthful Prince, Melodious Voice)
3 weeks ago
Wonderful certificates of our Kechara pastors..meaningful and touching.
3 weeks ago
This office table has something interesting on it.
3 weeks ago
Powerfully true
3 weeks ago
To have kind and caring people in our lives is a blessing
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
I really wanted to share this incredible picture of the Tibetologist Alexandra David-Neel outside of her retreat cave in Tibet. She's one of the first non-Tibetans who penetrated Tibet to engage in the practice of Tibetan Buddhism. She really practiced and even wrote books on Buddhism and Tibet which are still available now. ~Tsem Rinpoche
3 weeks ago
A photo taken by Pastor Shin of Tsem Rinpoche's Dorje Shugden traditional mask. This is on Tsem Rinpoche's shrine. Very nice photo.
4 weeks ago
At Chin Swee Temple with my long time friend Dato' Wira Eric.
4 weeks ago
Amogha-pasa Avalokitesvara
4 weeks ago
I love small quaint towns in Japan. No matter how rural or small any village is in Japan, it is still kept very clean and asthetic matching nature. 
4 weeks ago
Left to right: Gekula (disciplinarian), Abbot Geshe Konchok Tsering, Tsem Rinpoche, H.E. Kensur Jampa Yeshe Rinpoche-We are inviting Kensur Rinpoche for tenshug. Tenshug is grand puja to request Kensur Rinpoche to live long. This is in Gaden and we are inviting him to the prayer hall to perform the tenshug. Tsem Rinpoche is the requester and sponsor.
4 weeks ago
This is a nice picture
4 weeks ago
Kyabje Lati Rinpoche and Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen
4 weeks ago
Kyabje Lati Rinpoche and Kari Kensur Rinpoche of Gaden Shartse Monastery
4 weeks ago
Kyabje Zemey Rinpoche, H.H. Zong Rinpoche & Kyabje Lati Rinpoche
4 weeks ago
Kyabje Lati Rinpoche makes offerings to H.H. Trijang Rinpoche
4 weeks ago
Kyabje Lati Rinpoche makes offering to their Holinesses Kyabje Ling and Trijang Rinpoches
1 month ago
Lady Buddha Janguli who protects from snakes and venom poisoning.
1 month ago
If there is a blind man walking towards a well and he can fall in, whose fault is it if he falls in? This can be related back to those in dharma should act to guide others by example otherwise you let everyone fall into the well. If they do fall in samsara's well, whose fault is it? Have the courage, integrity and fortitude to practice dharma and bring dharma to others to help them.~ Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
This group in Kechara Forest Retreat completed a Singdongma retreat on October 28, 2015.
1 month ago
Magnificent and Glorious Buddha Goddess Singdongma the Lion Faced lady who dispells all fear from the ten directions for those who invoke upon her fercocious and volcanic like power. Praise to this wrathful lady that burns all gnosis and projections! Remover of all that harms and obstructs and trampled under her feet. Tsem Rinpoche--To learn more about Singdongma: http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/?p=31904
1 month ago
Xiaqiong Monastary, Qinghai, Tibet, China. Over 100 meters tall Lord Tsongkapa statue. The only one of it's kind. Totally amazing. Picture 2
1 month ago
Xiaqiong Monastary, Qinghai, Tibet, China. Over 100 meters tall Lord Tsongkapa statue. The only one of it's kind. Totally amazing. Picture 1
1 month ago
This was taken in Kechara House. Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
This was taken in Gaden Shartse Monastery on the day of my enthronement as Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
I think I was in Sera Mey Monastery when this was taken over 18 years ago. Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
1 month ago
Many times we hear great Vajra Yogini practitioners when cremated, their fire pyres appear in the form of Vajra Yogini. We hear this many times as a sign they went to Kechara Paradise, gained high realizations or enlightened by Vajra Yogini's path. Although this picture does not depict a funeral pyre of a great practitioner, but the fire looks curiously like Vajra Yogini. Enjoy and may all be blessed by Vajra Yogini. Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
1 month ago
When you work hard and produce results, everyone is silenced and those who make noise is just noise and society allows you some freedoms. You have to have the integrity to finish what you started and what you promised. Do it for others, those concerned and for yourself.~Tsem Rinpoche
1 month ago
You can work with me and we finish the dreams. You can leave citing any reasons you may have. You may join back again with me and my arms are open to you. Or you may go away as an enemy or remain friends. However you do I will accept. I dream big and work hard and sometimes it's hard for you, others and me, but if we finish, there is great satisfaction. Satisfaction doesn't come free. But one thing for sure, I will finish what I have started with or without you. Too many depend on it and many have hopes in it. We need to remember our words, our promises and our hopes we gave others and not shatter it. Sometimes we need to put our personal feelings aside and just get it done with a bang and be happy about it because in the end letting others down is not a way of life. Be kind, have integrity, don't make excuses, don't justify but just complete the works that make the dreams materialize and in the process you fulfill the dreams of many others. Others is always the key. Others and oneself are intertwined. Life is then fulfilled. That is life. Life is like that.~Tsem Rinpoche
2 months ago
Please click on picture to see this special mantra
2 months ago
Long Manjushri mantra: Namo Manjushriye Kumara Bhutaya Bodhisattvaya Maha-sattvaya Maha-karuni-kaya Tayatha Om Aradzey Biradzey Shuddhey Bishuddhey Shodaya Bishodayey Amaley Bimaley Nirmaley Dzaya-varey Ruru-tsaley Hung Hung Hung Phet Phet Phet Soha!
2 months ago
Love is.....
2 months ago
Very powerful. Must click on picture and read and share.
2 months ago
Some people just work quietly in the background and do their best in their own way to benefit others. They don't say much but work super hard. I must say Pastor Dr. Lanse is one of them. She does not need attention, she does not complain and she does not ever create problems. She is independent and yet kind. She is our wonderful translator who works very hard to get translations of many dharma teachings into Chinese. This is just something short and sweet to let everyone know how much I appreciate Pastor Lanse and enjoy being with her work and her. Because of her and several other vital and lovely people, much practical dharma is in the Chinese speaking world. I thank Pastor Dr. Lanse from my heart. Tsem Rinpoche
2 months ago
Materialism is prevalent because the societal norms teaches people to be consumers at a young age. Buying things we don't need all to feed the ego. You can drive an expensive vehicle, but at the end of the day its still just a car. You can buy a flashy watch, but in reality all it does is tell time. People are more concerned with image and feeding their egos than being a beneficial person to society. Investing money on the outside to appear a certain way to others, yet forgetting to invest in yourself to becoming a better person. People spend their whole lives working to attain materialistic things using their accumulation of materialism to validate their existence, but when you die you can't take any of it with you. Don't let this system turn you into a vanity slave, realize you're worth much more than that. Feed your soul not your ego.-from Dr Asky (Powerful words of wisdom even from the secular point of view)
2 months ago
I love little Dharma boy.
2 months ago
Lord Tsongkhapa's holy retreat house in Tibet. Huge pilgrimage spot.
2 months ago
Lama Tsongkhapa footprint as a child
2 months ago
Kedrub Je's personal statue of Yamantaka
2 months ago
Prince Siddhartha with his maternal aunt Queen Mahaprajapati Gotami
Click on "View All Photos" above to view more images

Videos On The Go

Please click on the images to watch video
  • -
    2 months ago
    HH the Dalai Lama prays with HH Trijang Rinpoche and HH Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche. Such a beautiful video of His Holiness Dalai Lama, His Holiness Kyabje Trijang Rinpoche and His Holiness Dilgo Kyentse Rinpoche (Very exalted high Nyingma lama) are all praying together. In the background you see a young Kyabje Lati Rinpoche too. So beautiful. This is how it was before the ban. All the sects and high lamas were superbly harmonious. After the Dorje Shugden ban things changed for the worse. May the ban be released soon. Tsem Rinpoche
  • Nice Dorje Shugden rock painting
    3 months ago
    Nice Dorje Shugden rock painting
  • His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche teaches the truth of life and our impeding death.
    3 months ago
    His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche teaches the truth of life and our impeding death.
  • A kind message from Mr. Tsering Wangchuk to me. Thank you so much. Tsem Rinpoche
    3 months ago
    A kind message from Mr. Tsering Wangchuk to me. Thank you so much. Tsem Rinpoche
  • Mr Chatreng Yeshe's message to me (Part 1)
    3 months ago
    Mr Chatreng Yeshe's message to me (Part 1)
  • Mr Chatreng Yeshe's message to me (Part 2)
    3 months ago
    Mr Chatreng Yeshe's message to me (Part 2)
  • His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche accepts Long Life puja
    5 months ago
    His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche accepts Long Life puja
  • Dorje Shugden/Kache Marpo makes offerings to Tsem Rinpoche
    5 months ago
    Dorje Shugden/Kache Marpo makes offerings to Tsem Rinpoche
  • My good friend Justin Ripley
    5 months ago
    My good friend Justin Ripley
  • -
    6 months ago
    I requested Choji Lah to do a trusol, rabney and soongdroop for our large DS and Buddha. In this video, he is performing trusol which is ritually 'bathing' the environment and blessing all those who come to visit our Wisdom Hall and Dorje Shugden. Tsem Rinpoche
  • Bigfoot arrives!!!
    6 months ago
    Bigfoot arrives!!!
    Tsem Rinpoche is an avid follower of the paranormal such as bigfoots. For more interesting writings and posts on the subject, please go to http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/tsem-tulku-rinpoche/category/yeti-bigfoot-sasquatch
  • Mumu Loves Snack!
    6 months ago
    Mumu Loves Snack!
  • -
    6 months ago
    For H.E. Tsem Tulku Rinpoche, a blog post is not just a blog post but Dharma work that generates merits which should be dedicated. Click here to find out what blog post Rinpoche was dedicating the merits for when he recited this prayer: http://bit.ly/1KiXWf9 ~Ani Lobsang Pema
  • -
    6 months ago
    Panchen Lama in Beijing on CCTV - China's official news. The respect and position they give His Holiness Panchen Lama is great.
  • Magical fish tank with Buddha statue
    6 months ago
    Magical fish tank with Buddha statue


A section for you to clarify your Dharma questions with Kechara’s esteemed pastors.

Just post your name and your question below and one of our pastors will provide you with an answer.

Scroll down and click on "View All Questions" to view archived questions.

View All Questions


12 hours ago
Pastor Yek Yee and team blessed the factory in today Outcall puja. By Puja House 1 December '15
12 hours ago
Puja team did Outcall puja today for a factory. By Puja House 1 December'15
12 hours ago
Dorje Shugden puja dedicated to Sponsor who have cancer. May him able to go through the chemotherapy session with courage. By Puja House 1 December'15
12 hours ago
Gossip cutting puja performed today for sponsor's rumours to stop. By Puja House 1 December '15
16 hours ago
1 December 2015 Many interesting Updates on http://www.tsemrinpoche.com/foundation - New to Buddhism, the class listened intently to the teachings on the Four Noble Truths. - Pastor Antoinette
16 hours ago
1 December 2015 - What was H.E. the 25th Tsem Rinpoche doing early in the morning while most people were sleeping? Last night at around 3:20AM, H.E. the 25th Tsem Rinpoche visited University Hospital to do a blessing for a Kechara Paradise’s staff’s mom - Then at around 4:00AM, H.E. the 25th Tsem Rinpoche went to a funeral wake of the mom of a Kechara member. Rinpoche’s care and compassion for others has no limit, as long as he is needed, Rinpoche will be there, no matter where and what time it is. http://bit.ly/1PXmUnt - Pastor Antoinette
17 hours ago
Weekly double Protector Puja, Dorje Shugden & Setrap puja ( Eng. ) at Kechara House gompa led by Pastor KH Ng, 30/11/15. Lucy Yap
30 November 2015 “If one does the recitation of the Lama Tsongkhapa guru yoga prayer for even one month using one of the visualizations for great or clear or quick wisdom, one will definitely see development of that wisdom. It is proved by experience. There is no doubt that by doing the Lama Tsongkhapa guru yoga practice one can meet Lama Tsongkhapa’s teachings from life to life. And furthermore, it gives one the opportunity to be born in the pure realm of Lama Tsongkhapa, Tushita, whenever death happens.” - Pabongkha Rinpoche - Pastor Antoinette
Thank you to everyone who participated and volunteered in the food distribution. Thank you Bayview Hotel for sponsoring the food. Patsy@KSK Penang
Medical team checking blood pressure of one of the food recipients. Patsy@KSK Penang
Monday night food distribution around Little India. Patsy@KSK Penang
Setting the right motivation by reciting motivational verses before food distribution. Patsy@KSK Penang
The students were briefed before going out to the streets for distribution. Patsy@KSK Penang
A busy night at the soup kitchen. Students from USM Penang helped our volunteers to sort and pack food for distribution. Patsy@KSK Penang
Kfr before completed, road toward enlighten path. heng meng kiat
Night View of Wisdom Hall with Tsongkhapa Statue !!!! heng meng kiat
Dharmapala Setrap In Kechara House Prayer Hall. Heng Meng Kiat
FW: kechara Prayer Hall with 15 magnificent Thangkas of Lord Tsongkhapa life story !!!! heng meng kiat
kechara Prayer Hall with 15 magnificent Thangkas of Lord Tsongkhapa life story !!!!
Rinpoche Previous reincarnation statue in Ladrang, Reincarnation of High Lama show the compassionate character to benefit more people . Heng Meng Kiat
Gyenze puja did today for Sponsor for their business to bloom. By Puja House 30 November'15
Druchuma puja did for Sponsor to restored harmony for their company. By Puja House 30 November'15
Puja team did Outcall puja to Johor today to bless the new premises. By Puja House 30 November'15
In torma making session, team work together to complete the torma. Some do butter flower, some shape the torma, some color the tormas. By Puja House 30 November'15
2 days ago
Beautiful and perfect statue of Dorje Shugden at H.E.The 25th Tsem Rinpoche's pre- loved Buddhist items at Kechara House gompa souvenir shop for invite. http://www.kechara.com Lucy Yap





Page Views By Country
Malaysia 2,256,636
United States 1,392,355
Singapore 438,735
United Kingdom 284,414
Canada 262,245
Australia 234,778
India 198,311
Philippines 121,612
Nepal 81,949
Indonesia 96,315
Thailand 73,034
Germany 75,496
Netherlands 48,329
France 48,399
Portugal 38,684
Italy 44,206
Bhutan 47,137
Spain 38,397
Taiwan 38,185
Hong Kong 38,301
New Zealand 35,417
Brazil 33,027
Romania 31,519
Mexico 25,367
Switzerland 33,278
United Arab Emirates 21,726
South Africa 20,444
Japan 22,237
Sweden 24,784
Greece 18,324
Vietnam 18,454
Ireland 17,751
Sri Lanka 15,322
Hungary 16,693
Saudi Arabia 13,615
Poland 18,112
Mongolia 15,942
Russia 16,638
Pakistan 12,311
Total Pageviews: 6,614,934


Click to watch my talk about Dorje Shugden....